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#1 maverick_41
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SSBB is looking like it is going to be perfect. The only thing that might hurt it's score might be it's online capabilities but i really think that Nintendo will dig down and make it great.
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#2 haziqonfire
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"Thread is not for haters".
Good luck with that. SSBB wont be perfect, no game is perfect. I can already find something that is wrong w/ the game, even though its not fully known, No Headset sucks.
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#3 gamer0100
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SSBB is looking like it is going to be perfect. The only thing that might hurt it's score might be it's online capabilities but i really think that Nintendo will dig down and make it great.maverick_41

No such thing as perfect. It will be amazing. Yea i thought this was getting GOTY untill it got delayed. As of now i think it will get GOTY for next year. Nintendo is notorious for delaying games for the better cant wait to see how this turns out. I thoght it was Insane already, i cant possibly see how they could put more into this game.
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#4 pintabear49blue
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No game is perfect.
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#5 Coyo7e
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SSBB is looking like it is going to be perfect. The only thing that might hurt it's score might be it's online capabilities but i really think that Nintendo will dig down and make it great.maverick_41

If this thread is not for haters it belongs in the Wii forums not system wars.

Seriously thats why this forum is here. So we have a place to flame each other without corupting the other forums.

Take this thread to the wii forums.

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#6 matt_sheep
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' tosses plasma/ flame shields' u'll be needing it
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#7 Gimli524
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"Thread is not for haters".
Good luck with that. SSBB wont be perfect, no game is perfect. I can already find something that is wrong w/ the game, even though its not fully known, No Headset sucks.
Haziqonfire

Meh I hate head sets. Some type of after match chating wouldn't hurt but just IMO drain on my online fun.

I'm thinking a 9.0 here. Just because GS hates SSB.

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#8 JPOBS
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probably the only game i want the wii for.

I just hope they dont completely butcher the competitive play :|

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#9 Sonicplys
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This is a game I will play for years and years. I expect nothing lower then a 10 (except for Gamespot because they love the FPS360)

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#10 OXIIIIXO
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Thread is not for haters... just blind fanboys.

No game is perfect.

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#11 nintendofreak_2
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I doubt it will get a deserving score though.
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#12 haziqonfire
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probably the only game i want the wii for.

I just hope they dont completely butcher the competitive play :|

JPOBS

Yes, because they clearly will do that. Every preview said its a smash game. If you like smash, you'll like brawl.
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#13 Shinno441
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probably the only game i want the wii for.

I just hope they dont completely butcher the competitive play :|

JPOBS
Well don't worry and look at the demo's it builds up the SSBM formula and improves it.
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#14 Rick_Henderson
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I noticed some severe collision detection problems in the gameplay videos. Hopefully they'll fix that with the delay. Otherwise this game is so so worth the $50 I spend on it.
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#15 mrjam0
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headsets a problem? i dont think so. id rather not have someone yelling in my ear while im owning them
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#16 XenoNinja
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No game is perfect, except maybe this one and SMG.
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#17 i-lick-monkeys
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not perfect,great.
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#18 yoshi-lnex
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I'm really worried that they've removed wave dashing, but if that's in there, the game will be near perfect.
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112 days left I wish I had a time machine
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112 days left I wish I had a time machinemurat8

me 2

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#22 Shinno441
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not perfect,great.i-lick-monkeys
Coming from someone who hypes Ratchet as GOTY, SSB imo is above great, not perfect, but close, but then again this is coming from someone who ate a sock when he found out SSBB was delayed.
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#23 gamer0100
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I noticed some severe collision detection problems in the gameplay videos. Hopefully they'll fix that with the delay. Otherwise this game is so so worth the $50 I spend on it.Rick_Henderson

Eh it seemed fine. I mean that wasnt perfect they could definatley work on it though. Sure they will witht he extra 2 months.
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#24 nintendofreak_2
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headsets a problem? i dont think so. id rather not have someone yelling in my ear while im owning themmrjam0
I doubt Nintendo would let that wok with random matches.
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#25 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

probably the only game i want the wii for.

I just hope they dont completely butcher the competitive play :|

Haziqonfire

Yes, because they clearly will do that. Every preview said its a smash game. If you like smash, you'll like brawl.

well you never know. we still dont even know if wavedashing will make a return -_-
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#26 Shinno441
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

probably the only game i want the wii for.

I just hope they dont completely butcher the competitive play :|

JPOBS

Yes, because they clearly will do that. Every preview said its a smash game. If you like smash, you'll like brawl.

well you never know. we still dont even know if wavedashing will make a return -_-

I'm good at Smash and all but wth is wavedashing and how do you do it?
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#27 nintendofreak_2
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well you never know. we still dont even know if wavedashing will make a return -_-
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They're using a new physics engine or gravity effects or something. People who played the demo said they couldn't wavedash, or chose which way to air dogde (But now you can attack after an air dodge).
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#28 whodeysay85
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no game is perfect...especially SSBB
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#29 nintendofreak_2
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no game is perfect...especially SSBBwhodeysay85
I suppose you would know. :roll:

I'm good at Smash and all but wth is wavedashing and how do you do it?Shinno441
Short jump, and air dodge into the ground in quick succession. The manuever makes you invicible temporarily and you can still attack, grab and other things.

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I'm really worried that they've removed wave dashing, but if that's in there, the game will be near perfect.yoshi-lnex

Its out. L cancleing is automated also.

Don't fret though it just gets rid of the old and makes way for the new age of advanced techs. Pulse they are working with some of the high up there Melee players, looking at their input for tourny play.

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Have you played it? I mean there are so many ways they could ruin it with the Wiimote. At the very least the hardcore players will be upset from the dumbing down that's obviously gonna be there for Nintendo's push so "everyone can play".
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#32 sonic_rusher
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The game has one of the mot comprehensive multiplayers I have ever seen maybe the best and they are making a full fledged campaign.

I just hope they would use my DS JUGGERNAUT idea.

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#33 Gimli524
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Have you played it? I mean there are so many ways they could ruin it with the Wiimote. At the very least the hardcore players will be upset from the dumbing down that's obviously gonna be there for Nintendo's push so "everyone can play".Lazy_Boy88

Ah, first off if you don't want to use the Wiimote you don't have to. 4 different controls each one totally customisable.

Also, the best games are easy to learn but hard to master. Just like Melee.

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#34 nintendofreak_2
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Have you played it? I mean there are so many ways they could ruin it with the Wiimote. At the very least the hardcore players will be upset from the dumbing down that's obviously gonna be there for Nintendo's push so "everyone can play".Lazy_Boy88
Shows how much you know about the game. It doesn't even use motion sensing.
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#35 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

probably the only game i want the wii for.

I just hope they dont completely butcher the competitive play :|

Shinno441


Yes, because they clearly will do that. Every preview said its a smash game. If you like smash, you'll like brawl.

well you never know. we still dont even know if wavedashing will make a return -_-

I'm good at Smash and all but wth is wavedashing and how do you do it?

jump then IMMEDIATELY air dodge to the ground.

Allows you to slide across the floor in a standing position, which means you can launch any attack while moving (thereby opening up your options tenfold.)

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm really worried that they've removed wave dashing, but if that's in there, the game will be near perfect.Gimli524

Its out. L cancleing is automated also.

Don't fret though it just gets rid of the old and makes way for the new age of advanced techs. Pulse they are working with some of the high up there Melee players, looking at their input for tourny play.

:( I'm just now getting those down well.

I think them being out is just speculation at the moment though.

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#37 Shinno441
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Have you played it? I mean there are so many ways they could ruin it with the Wiimote. At the very least the hardcore players will be upset from the dumbing down that's obviously gonna be there for Nintendo's push so "everyone can play".Lazy_Boy88
Well the only complaint with the Wiimote is the sheild button is hard to reach. There is no motion sensing, and GCN controllers work with the game. The only complaint about the game is lack of wavedashing and the advanced techs which, is bad for tourney play but like Ninty freak said opened up more possibilities for advanced techs, and of course the only people who really did wavedashing were REALLLLLLY HARDCORE SSBM players, I am one of them, but never knew how to wavedash.
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#38 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]no game is perfect...especially SSBBnintendofreak_2

I suppose you would know. :roll:

Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]no game is perfect...especially SSBBJPOBS

I suppose you would know. :roll:

Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

The characters are balanced also if you dont use all dodges available your screwed when you play me.

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Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

JPOBS

In terms of balance yes.

That's just what I've been told.I wouldn't be able to confirm it.

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#41 ljlrj
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The game has one of the mot comprehensive multiplayers I have ever seen maybe the best and they are making a full fledged campaign.

I just hope they would use my DS JUGGERNAUT idea.

sonic_rusher

wat ds juggernaut

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#42 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm really worried that they've removed wave dashing, but if that's in there, the game will be near perfect.Gimli524

Its out. L cancleing is automated also.

Don't fret though it just gets rid of the old and makes way for the new age of advanced techs. Pulse they are working with some of the high up there Melee players, looking at their input for tourny play.

whoa, whoa whoa, slow down there sparky. WTF!?! l-cancelling automated? well that sucks. l-cancelling was one thing which seperated the good from the better. :(
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[QUOTE="murat8"]112 days left I wish I had a time machineljlrj

me 2

Why not just freeze yourself? :P

jk.

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#44 Shinno441
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

nintendofreak_2

In terms of balance yes.

That's just what I've been told.I wouldn't be able to confirm it.

Character balance has always been a problem, but not for me and my friends, I'm sad they're taking out clones, I'm a Falco Fanatic.

But yeah what have you been told Ninty? I thought they were balancing out the characters?

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#45 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]no game is perfect...especially SSBBsonic_rusher

I suppose you would know. :roll:

Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

The characters are balanced also if you dont use all dodges available your screwed when you play me.

not really. for one thing, good luck with playing anyone other than fox, falco, sheik, marth or peach if your playing anyone good. Unless your a REAL SPEACIAL TALENT, you chances rpetty much flew out the window.

and lol, only noobs air dodge. Seriously. Leaves you wide open to attack.

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[QUOTE="Gimli524"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm really worried that they've removed wave dashing, but if that's in there, the game will be near perfect.JPOBS

Its out. L cancleing is automated also.

Don't fret though it just gets rid of the old and makes way for the new age of advanced techs. Pulse they are working with some of the high up there Melee players, looking at their input for tourny play.

whoa, whoa whoa, slow down there sparky. WTF!?! l-cancelling automated? well that sucks. l-cancelling was one thing which seperated the good from the better. :(

Once again, wth is l cancelling?
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]no game is perfect...especially SSBBJPOBS

I suppose you would know. :roll:

Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

??? Smash is one of the most balanced fighters ever made. Tier lists are just for HARDCORE tourny players who are at almost exact skill levels. From demo players Brawl (from the chars playable) is the most balanced feeling game of the series yet.

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#48 Gimli524
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Gimli524"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm really worried that they've removed wave dashing, but if that's in there, the game will be near perfect.Shinno441

Its out. L cancleing is automated also.

Don't fret though it just gets rid of the old and makes way for the new age of advanced techs. Pulse they are working with some of the high up there Melee players, looking at their input for tourny play.

whoa, whoa whoa, slow down there sparky. WTF!?! l-cancelling automated? well that sucks. l-cancelling was one thing which seperated the good from the better. :(

Once again, wth is l cancelling?

Its used to cut down on lag time by about half. Its only in the .seconds but in hardcore-play-for-1k games its a must.

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#49 sonic_rusher
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

nintendofreak_2

In terms of balance yes.

That's just what I've been told.I wouldn't be able to confirm it.

The characters are balanced

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#50 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Gimli524"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm really worried that they've removed wave dashing, but if that's in there, the game will be near perfect.Shinno441

Its out. L cancleing is automated also.

Don't fret though it just gets rid of the old and makes way for the new age of advanced techs. Pulse they are working with some of the high up there Melee players, looking at their input for tourny play.

whoa, whoa whoa, slow down there sparky. WTF!?! l-cancelling automated? well that sucks. l-cancelling was one thing which seperated the good from the better. :(

Once again, wth is l cancelling?

if you dotn know what l-cancelling or wavedashing, you're not as good as you thought you were.

No offense of course.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

[QUOTE="whodeysay85"]no game is perfect...especially SSBBGimli524

I suppose you would know. :roll:

Well i must admit, Smash is broken as far as character balance is concerned.

As for you other comment, no wavedashing in the demo? bummer. Attacking after an air dodge? interesting....

i dont really utilize the air dodge except for the occasional unexpected recovery from off the stage, this could be interesting. 0.o

??? Smash is one of the most balanced fighters ever made. Tier lists are just for HARDCORE tourny players who are at almost exact skill levels. From demo players Brawl (from the chars playable) is the most balanced feeling game of the series yet.

true, melee is a relatively balanced game, and brawl will supposedly be balanced better, but yea, on higher levels of play, some characters just can not win against others.