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#1 pastro243
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I was thinking and it would be great if they did more games like SSBB, I was thinking the ps3 game could have characters like Crash, Kratos, Nariko, Wander(SotC), Ico, Ratchet, Clank, Cloud, Sora and characters from ff13.

the 360 could have other characters from Halo, Gears, etc...

Both could have Dante from DMC

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#2 HarlockJC
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most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?
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#3 Notsogr8one
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I think it would be best if they just mixed them into SSB... seriously, without Nintendo developing, I don't see it really going anywhere
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#4 SSCyborg
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most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?HarlockJC

BECAUSE!

uhmm... I don't really have an argument

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#5 dracula_16
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It sounds neat in theory but Nintendo as a whole has a much, much bigger library than Sony and Microsoft. In Smash Bros games, you can play as characters who have been missing in action for 15 years like Pit from Kid Icarus. In my opinion, a Smash Bros like game featuring Sony or Microsoft mascots would be really dull.
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#6 HarlockJC
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I think it would be best if they just mixed them into SSB... seriously, without Nintendo developing, I don't see it really going anywhereNotsogr8one

Good point there is already a rip off one on Xbox live. And it no wheres near as good has SSBM.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?SSCyborg

BECAUSE!

uhmm... I don't really have an argument

LOL...It would be kinda cool idea. Rather than pokeballs you could have magic items with spirits in them or something.

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#7 DaAznSaN
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Either edition would require a lot of third party help to make up the roster. Licensing fees would be absurd.
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#8 -TheSecondSign-
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Because Gears and Halo don't have characters good for fighting games. MC is one, but aside from the internet fad about Gears, who would REALLY choose Cole as a character for a fighting game?
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Because Gears and Halo don't have characters good for fighting games. MC is one, but aside from the internet fad about Gears, who would REALLY choose Cole as a character for a fighting game?-TheSecondSign-

OMG the Coletrain?
I SO WOOULD!

I'm not kidding:|

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#10 HarlockJC
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Because Gears and Halo don't have characters good for fighting games. MC is one, but aside from the internet fad about Gears, who would REALLY choose Cole as a character for a fighting game?-TheSecondSign-

I have not played it but MC is in a fighting game...Right, I thought I may have read that somewhere

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#11 gamenux
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Maybe they should have a SSBB on all consoles with only female characters.... :)

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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]Because Gears and Halo don't have characters good for fighting games. MC is one, but aside from the internet fad about Gears, who would REALLY choose Cole as a character for a fighting game?HarlockJC

I have not played it but MC is in a fighting game...Right, I thought I may have read that somewhere

You mean that other Spartan in DOA?
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#13 HappyAppe
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Microsoft does own rare giving them Banjo and Kazooie which would be cool! And whatever other characters from that universe.
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#14 Masterfubu
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not enough characters and they'd be ripped on for copying
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#15 HarlockJC
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Microsoft does own rare giving them Banjo and Kazooie which would be cool! And whatever other characters from that universe. HappyAppe

there are many rare could pull out....Battle Toads, B&K, Conker, and many other smaller ones

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most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?HarlockJC

Square is making Final Fantasy: Dissidia for the PSP, although that is more of a traditional arcade-style fighter.

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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]Because Gears and Halo don't have characters good for fighting games. MC is one, but aside from the internet fad about Gears, who would REALLY choose Cole as a character for a fighting game?HarlockJC

I have not played it but MC is in a fighting game...Right, I thought I may have read that somewhere

That wasn't Master Chief.

That was Nicole, another Spartan.

I don't know where or if she fits in with regular Halo canon, but if she does, she's one of a few Spartans that survived the Fall of Reach.

It wasn't MC though.

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#18 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?MrDziekuje

Square is making Final Fantasy: Dissidia for the PSP, although that is more of a traditional arcade-style fighter.

Yeah they also made one for the PS...But I rather have the SSB style. I have played one school arcade games from time when SF2 first came out in the arcade.

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#19 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]Because Gears and Halo don't have characters good for fighting games. MC is one, but aside from the internet fad about Gears, who would REALLY choose Cole as a character for a fighting game?-TheSecondSign-

I have not played it but MC is in a fighting game...Right, I thought I may have read that somewhere

That wasn't Master Chief.

That was Nicole, another Spartan.

I don't know where or if she fits in with regular Halo canon, but if she does, she's one of a few Spartans that survived the Fall of Reach.

It wasn't MC though.

that kinda cool...I thought it was him maybe I just saw pics it was a long time ago.

Thx

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#21 deadmeat59
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sony and ms dont have euff of there own people to make a game as big as ssbb if it was on xbox there would be one guy lol .
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#22 pastro243
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I would still buy it, anyway, there are other good games like SSBB, I own Battlestadium DON, its like samsh but with characters from DBZ, Naruto and one peice, I enjoy it a lot in my ps2. Anyway a game with just Square characters would be great, all FF and dragon quest, KH and fullmetal alchemist, and maybe some from games like Radiata.

I still would like to see characters like Kratos and Dante in a fighting game

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#23 Arhazard
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First, I don't want to imagine the paperwork involving rights to characters and whatnot. Sony has no rights to most of those characters.

Second, it's a bad idea. Nintendo likes not to take its characters seriously which makes them perfect for a game like Smash. Kratos? He is an anti-hero that enjoys tearing monsters and people to shreds. Him being featured alongside a character like Ratchet would be just plain dumb and corny.

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#24 Masterfubu
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Overall this topic is pretty much leaned towards bad idea/not gonna happen
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#26 BearEatsMan
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well we all know if sony made smash brothers it would be ABAP...
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#27 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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MS would have:

MC

RROD and sam fisher

while the ps3 will have:

Wait

Flop

Solid snake

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#28 Shad0ki11
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Sony and Microsoft are not worthy. No offense, but I'm serious. They just aren't. They don't have enough memorable first party characters.

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#29 WllDan7
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most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?HarlockJC

Some companies come together and made a smash clone for the gc and ps2 in japan. Dream something. It didn't do so well.

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#30 glitchgeeman
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Wouldn't work. Sony and Microsoft simply don't have the expansive library of (mostly) 1st party characters to make a decent brawler. Keep in mind characters from Gears, Halo, Final Fantasy, etc technically don't even belong to Microsoft/Sony.
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most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?HarlockJC

Thats true. BTW your Sig animation amkes me laugh everytime.

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#32 yowvapa
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Some companies come together and made a smash clone for the gc and ps2 in japan. Dream something. It didn't do so well.

WllDan7

The game you are thinking is called Dream Mix TV: World Fighters. The characters are from Konami, Takara, and Hudson. Solid Snake from Metal Gear, Simon Belmont from Castlevania and Optimus Prime from the Transformers appeared in this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OlFC4D3cq8

This above link shows Snake versus a character

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OlFC4D3cq8

The above is a trailer for Dream Mix TV.

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#33 yoshi-lnex
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Even though sony excels at stealing ideas, they don't have enough first party characters to create a decent roster.
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#34 mistervengeance
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no. i can see the sony one just barely working, but the 360 version would have to be a shooter.
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#35 HarlockJC
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Some companies come together and made a smash clone for the gc and ps2 in japan. Dream something. It didn't do so well.

WllDan7

Are you talking about the Anime clone of SSB. In Japan all those right are held by one company it is only in the US where the Anime rights are held by many compaies.

Thats true. BTW your Sig animation amkes me laugh everytime.

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THX

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#36 akif22
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a game like SSBB wouldn't work too well for sony or M$ IMO, because their history isn't deep enough

Nintendo can pack smash bros with so much, Sony and M$ can't

they could try, but it would never be the same

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#37 cakeorrdeath
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This seems a different enough of a smash thread that it warrants its own thread.

You might want to edit mod apporved into the title, so that this doesnt get locked.

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#38 insomnia37
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thats not a bad idea.
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?MrDziekuje

Square is making Final Fantasy: Dissidia for the PSP, although that is more of a traditional arcade-style fighter.

That'll make HOW many final fantasy games? How many FINAL fantasies can we have? And people bash Nintendo for using the same thing over and over.

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#40 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="MrDziekuje"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?dotWithShoes

Square is making Final Fantasy: Dissidia for the PSP, although that is more of a traditional arcade-style fighter.

That'll make HOW many final fantasy games? How many FINAL fantasies can we have? And people bash Nintendo for using the same thing over and over.

I have no problem with that. Only people who wish to limit themselfs as gamers care how many games are in franchise.

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#41 samusarmada
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there just arent enough characters
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="MrDziekuje"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?HarlockJC

Square is making Final Fantasy: Dissidia for the PSP, although that is more of a traditional arcade-style fighter.

That'll make HOW many final fantasy games? How many FINAL fantasies can we have? And people bash Nintendo for using the same thing over and over.

I have no problem with that. Only people who wish to limit themselfs as gamers care how many games are in franchise.

I've got no problem with what they call their games, just find the irony in the title and the thing about ppl bashing nintendo. Its funny.

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#43 Grodus5
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The game would be pretty boring imo. Wow, Daxter and Rachet plus two third party character make up a good game. Master Cheif vs. Marcus and RAAM. Fun stuff....
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Capcom and Konami have a much better set of characters then Sony and Microsoft, especially Capcom who can grab a bunch of characters from the mega man universe (i.e. Mega Man, Mega Man X, Zero, etc.), Street Fighter Universe (Ryu, Chung Li, Guile, Blanka, etc.), Resident Evil universe (Leon, Jill, Chris, etc.), Viewtiful Joe, Devil May Cry, Breath of Fire, Final Fight, Bionic Commando, Ghosts 'N Goblins, Darkstalkers, and PowerStone (Which btw is a Smash Brothers brawler type game).
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#45 HarlockJC
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Capcom and Konami have a much better set of characters then Sony and Microsoft, especially Capcom who can grab a bunch of characters from the mega man universe (i.e. Mega Man, Mega Man X, Zero, etc.), Street Fighter Universe (Ryu, Chung Li, Guile, Blanka, etc.), Resident Evil universe (Leon, Jill, Chris, etc.), Viewtiful Joe, Devil May Cry, Breath of Fire, Final Fight, Bionic Commando, Ghosts 'N Goblins, Darkstalkers, and PowerStone (Which btw is a Smash Brothers brawler type game).Zerostatic0

You already have the Marvel vs Capcom. There was also a only MegaMan fighter out also. But they are not in the SB format. I think Rare may also have enough to make a SSB style game just with not hase many characters.

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#46 pastro243
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Capcom and Konami have a much better set of characters then Sony and Microsoft, especially Capcom who can grab a bunch of characters from the mega man universe (i.e. Mega Man, Mega Man X, Zero, etc.), Street Fighter Universe (Ryu, Chung Li, Guile, Blanka, etc.), Resident Evil universe (Leon, Jill, Chris, etc.), Viewtiful Joe, Devil May Cry, Breath of Fire, Final Fight, Bionic Commando, Ghosts 'N Goblins, Darkstalkers, and PowerStone (Which btw is a Smash Brothers brawler type game).Zerostatic0
Man, that would be good
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#47 Wanderer5
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most of those IPs are not owned by Sony Crash, Cloud, Sora and FF13. Why not square just make their own and have it on all three systems?HarlockJC

Actually they are making one, but it only for the PSP.

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#48 Mongo-Boss
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I don't think it would work out =/

Sony and MS characters are just to ummm serious?

With Nintendo characters it's just fun plus there really aren't many Sony characters we grew up with and even less for MS. The fun thing with SSBB is that you are seeing your old NES and SNES heroes come back to life =D

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#49 waza000
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they could not do any game that would sell anything close to SSBB ... simply because nintendo has good ideas like "non-realistic graphics" wich makes a game even playable 10 years later

they didn't stick exactly to the original ideas and original franchise's main ideas, they added special moves and a lot of stuff

companies like Sony are too conventional when retouching a licence (or licensed characters)

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#50 TMontana1004
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Interesting. For the Xbox version, I would put: MC, Arbiter, Ryu Hayabusa, Viva Pinata characters, Riddick, Sam Fisher, Locusts from GOW, KOTOR characters, Mass Effect characters, etc.