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#1 NoodleFighter
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how much longer will you consolites live in denial!? :twisted:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121826-Star-Citizen-Dev-Consoles-Will-Lose-Advantage-to-PCs

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#2 crimsonman1245
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PC exclusive developers will always back PCs, Wii exclusive developers will tell you that fancy HD graphics are unnessary, etc etc.

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#3 Mr_BillGates
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Won't be long until they "sell out", and PC gamers rage in forums about their betrayal.

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#4 DrTrafalgarLaw
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I guess he doesn't like money or franchise recognition. But offcourse when you got your dev money from kickstarter...you're not putting you work and livelyhood on the line like hard working employees of the videogame industry do.

That said, I can't wait for Star Citizen. But he really need to stfu and develop the damn game.

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#6 Gue1
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nothing but wishful thinking from his part. It never gonna happen.  :cool:

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#7 Riadon2
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I guess he doesn't like money or franchise recognition. But offcourse when you got your dev money from kickstarter...you're not putting you work and livelyhood on the line like hard working employees of the videogame industry do.

That said, I can't wait for Star Citizen. But he really need to stfu and develop the damn game.

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#8 GamerwillzPS
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Many consolites fail to comprehend that PCs gives better value for your money, and yet it will give you more power for your money. PC gaming is also cheaper.

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#9 TruSake
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lose not loose

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#10 tagyhag
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I don't know about price. All I know is that before it took me 20 seconds to begin a game and there were no installs. MGS4 takes more than 7 mins. Consoles are losing their "pick up and play" factor.
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#11 wis3boi
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I guess he doesn't like money or franchise recognition. But offcourse when you got your dev money from kickstarter...you're not putting you work and livelyhood on the line like hard working employees of the videogame industry do.

That said, I can't wait for Star Citizen. But he really need to stfu and develop the damn game.

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#12 Strakha
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Won't be long until they "sell out", and PC gamers rage in forums about their betrayal.

Mr_BillGates

In a way he already has before. Digital Anvil the company he founded was sold to MS but even under MS they created my favorite game last decade in Freelancer. Conquest: Frontier Wars was good also. Their game for Xbox Brute Force was a massive failure though and that marked the end for DA as MS was no longer interested in them making PC exclusives. Essemble was a similar story. I'm not sure if you could call it selling out as there may have been factor beyond his control but both the company he founded and the previous company he was with were ruined by larger companies. Digital Anvil by MS and Origin Systems by EA.

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#13 Sushiglutton
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Veteran developer Chris Roberts predicts next-gen consoles will lose their price and power advantage over PCs.Article
So in other words consoles have had a price and power advantage over PC. That's why it's awesome to have been a console gamer :D!

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#14 Vari3ty
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So? Lesser power hasn't stopped consoles from selling. The next consoles will continue to do well. 

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#15 XenoLair
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I dont know but I think Im slightly gay for devs that defend and prefer PC over consoles.
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#16 Strakha
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It would be ironic of Roberts was championed by elitist PC gamers considering the flack Freelancer got for being dumbed down. It wasn't dumbed down for consoles of course but so it could be played well without a joystick. In fact there was no option for a joystick at all because it was based around the mouse. I didn't mind this of course because I absolutely love the space sim genre and even back then games for this genre were rare gems. Today the genre in almost extinct. I plead to both fans and developers of the genre forget about the platform or input and simply do everything to bring the genre back to life. That means fans supporting the genre and developers making it so as many people as possible are able to enjoy the genre regardless of platform. I loved Freelancer as a mouse based game, I loved Colony Wars on the PS1 and the console versions of Wing Commander 4 and Darkstar One prove the genre can work well on consoles. Anyway the point I'm making is that the problem of being elitist and shunning games or platforms is eventually you will elite the games and genres you may have had any interest in at all right out of existence. End rant.

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#17 Pffrbt
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Star Citizen doesn't even look very good.

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#18 jhonMalcovich
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Why would he risk releasing Star Citizen on consoles? Bloody consolite pirates will torrent the game to death and used copies will be resold with no profits for the developer.It´s widely known that console games top the torrent charts.

It´s more wise to stick with more trustful services like Steam and enjoy huge digital sales profits rather than getting messed with shady physical copies plus paying roalties to MS and Sony.:roll:

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#19 Heil68
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poor consolites.
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#20 gpuking
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He can limit his game's market share only to the pc all he wants and get pirated along the way, nobody cares about this niche market or willing to spend more money to upgrade at present. Even if consoles have lost their price and power advantages it really doesn't matter in the end, coz you simply cant play their exclusives and a vast number of multiplatforms on PC anyway. This guy can suck it.

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#21 lowe0
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how much longer will you consolites live in denial!? :twisted:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121826-Star-Citizen-Dev-Consoles-Will-Lose-Advantage-to-PCs

NoodleFighter
The Wii sold better than either HD console despite significantly less powerful hardware. Is everyone that bought a Wii in denial of how much more fun they'd have on an HD console?
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#22 k2theswiss
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he has a point
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#23 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

how much longer will you consolites live in denial!? :twisted:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121826-Star-Citizen-Dev-Consoles-Will-Lose-Advantage-to-PCs

lowe0

The Wii sold better than either HD console despite significantly less powerful hardware. Is everyone that bought a Wii in denial of how much more fun they'd have on an HD console?

i know you're in a middle of a crusade and thus hate to lose debates,but did you even read the article he linked lowe0?

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#24 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

how much longer will you consolites live in denial!? :twisted:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121826-Star-Citizen-Dev-Consoles-Will-Lose-Advantage-to-PCs

lawlessx

The Wii sold better than either HD console despite significantly less powerful hardware. Is everyone that bought a Wii in denial of how much more fun they'd have on an HD console?

i know you're in a middle of a crusade and thus hate to lose debates,but did you even read the article he linked lowe0?

I did.
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#25 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] The Wii sold better than either HD console despite significantly less powerful hardware. Is everyone that bought a Wii in denial of how much more fun they'd have on an HD console?lowe0

i know you're in a middle of a crusade and thus hate to lose debates,but did you even read the article he linked lowe0?

I did.

so why did you bring up the Wii and it's success while not being HD? it had nothing to do with what chris said.

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#26 Ly_the_Fairy
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I don't think it really matters though.

On the reverse side there are supposed disadvantages to PC gaming now, and yet it's still the most played platform worldwide.

 

If consoles do lose the advantage of the up front cost, and power at launch there will still be millions of people lining up to buy them cuz there will be a market there regardless. Wii U managed to sell 3 million units so far while being more expensive than the other two consoles with no significant showcase for power because people wanted a new Nintendo console regardless of those things.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

i know you're in a middle of a crusade and thus hate to lose debates,but did you even read the article he linked lowe0?

lawlessx

I did.

so why did you bring up the Wii and it's success while not being HD? it had nothing to do with what chris said.

troll bait

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#28 arto1223
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PC exclusive developers will always back PCs, Wii exclusive developers will tell you that fancy HD graphics are unnessary, etc etc.

crimsonman1245

Ha!

PC Devs: "There are things on this platform that no other platform can do, going to those other platforms would result in less content"

Wii Devs: "This platform cannot do as much as others, but it's okay, because you don't really need those things. I guess they can have what this console does as well as the things this console cannot do, and at the same time, but again, you don't really need all those 'extra' things"

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#29 Timstuff
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He can limit his game's market share only to the pc all he wants and get pirated along the way, nobody cares about this niche market or willing to spend more money to upgrade at present. Even if consoles have lost their price and power advantages it really doesn't matter in the end, coz you simply cant play their exclusives and a vast number of multiplatforms on PC anyway. This guy can suck it.

gpuking

I think there is a product for someone in your predicament:

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Keep being jelly. It only makes my PC's hard drive harder. :twisted:

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#30 skrat_01
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Haven't clicked the link, but I said it a few years ago, and I think things are moving in that direction still, it's going to be a battle between service providers and distribution networks then just console and hardware manufacturers. MicroPCs will get cheaper and become more commonplace in the living room, streaming boxes more commonplace too; it'll be more about who's service is on those boxes, which is one reason why the whole Steambox thing is interesting - it's subverting the console market entirely. Which isn't to say consoles will disappear, they'll evolve and shift where the trends are going.
The Wii sold better than either HD console despite significantly less powerful hardware. Is everyone that bought a Wii in denial of how much more fun they'd have on an HD console?lowe0
Which is neglecting the problem that software simply didn't sell nearly well per-unit on the Wii. It's a system that relied on Nintendo's in-house and publishing initiatives; a huge bug-bear for Nintendo, as they don't have a revenue stream like Microsoft's XBLG and online advertising, or Steam's storefront. Considering the bigger online focus on the Wii they're trying to turn that around, for developers and consumers; shame they still can't get account systems right at all, on the 3DS too. In terms of hardware in general I imagine it boils down to design - a game like Planetside 2, like Star Citizen has hardware demands and expectations to meet its design vision; a vision which separates it from the mass market and gives the game more visibility over the next, which is extremely important if you're pushing a free to play game.
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He can limit his game's market share only to the pc all he wants and get pirated along the way, nobody cares about this niche market or willing to spend more money to upgrade at present. Even if consoles have lost their price and power advantages it really doesn't matter in the end, coz you simply cant play their exclusives and a vast number of multiplatforms on PC anyway. This guy can suck it.

gpuking
He got 7 mill upfront. Oh no the piracy.
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#33 zeeshanhaider
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He can limit his game's market share only to the pc all he wants and get pirated along the way, nobody cares about this niche market or willing to spend more money to upgrade at present. Even if consoles have lost their price and power advantages it really doesn't matter in the end, coz you simply cant play their exclusives and a vast number of multiplatforms on PC anyway. This guy can suck it.

gpuking

So much jelly in this post.

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#34 razgriz_101
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who gives a crap, this guy and Cervat Yerli should get married considering they seem to love being loudmouths and attention seek for some limelight. Not to mention as has been said he's sold out in the past twice iirc.He'll do it again once a big gun comes a knocking.
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#35 XenoLair
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]

He can limit his game's market share only to the pc all he wants and get pirated along the way, nobody cares about this niche market or willing to spend more money to upgrade at present. Even if consoles have lost their price and power advantages it really doesn't matter in the end, coz you simply cant play their exclusives and a vast number of multiplatforms on PC anyway. This guy can suck it.

zeeshanhaider

So much jelly in this post.

Ill get the butter!
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#36 BrunoBRS
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i thought he was talking about the game itself, meh.
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#37 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

i know you're in a middle of a crusade and thus hate to lose debates,but did you even read the article he linked lowe0?

lawlessx

I did.

so why did you bring up the Wii and it's success while not being HD? it had nothing to do with what chris said.

And quite a bit with what the thread creator said.
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#38 Loegi
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It's over! Console gaming is finished!
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#39 jhonMalcovich
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Start Citizen if ported to consoles

PC version.

Star-Citizen-01.jpg

Console version.

Star_Force_-_1987_-_Tecmo,_Ltd..jpg

It doesn´t look so bad, right, guys ? After all, console gaming is not about graphics, but about accessibility, price and couch/controller combo.

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#40 Cloud_imperium
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Start Citizen if ported to consoles

PC version.

Star-Citizen-01.jpg

Console version.

Star_Force_-_1987_-_Tecmo,_Ltd..jpg

It doesn´t look so bad, right, guys ? After all, console gaming is not about graphics, but about accessibility, price and couch/controller combo.

jhonMalcovich
BAHAHAHAHA . Best post EVA !!!
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#41 deactivated-585ea4b128526
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My guess, this is one of those guys that goes into hiding, or worse, when that pesky mainstream begins buying his crap.
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#42 Jankarcop
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Start Citizen if ported to consoles

PC version.

Star-Citizen-01.jpg

Console version.

Star_Force_-_1987_-_Tecmo,_Ltd..jpg

It doesn´t look so bad, right, guys ? After all, console gaming is not about graphics, but about accessibility, price and couch/controller combo.

jhonMalcovich

 

lmao Console Kids have been destoryed.

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Many consolites fail to comprehend that PCs gives better value for your money, and yet it will give you more power for your money. PC gaming is also cheaper.

GamerwillzPS
value is a subjective thing, my ps3 has easily been a better value to me than my gaming rig. I imagine when ps4 comes out it will be better value than my recent laptop I purchased for gaming.
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#44 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

No they wont, it is all about exclusives and PC has none

loosingENDS

More then console.

None is "more" ?

Diablo 3 - GONE, best on consoles (offline, direct hero control is praised by everyone now)

Witcher 3 - PS4

And ALL JRPGs are only on consoles

So, what does PC have in exclusive RPGs ? (besides the Kickstarter 2D ones that play on any PC, even from 15 years back)

We're not talking about the games you like, we're talking about exclusive which PC has more... just like a the list and stop being stupid.

I don't even understand why you even mention Witcher 3... when was it ever exlusive ?

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to me , the only reasons someone would game on a console is

 

1) cant afford a gaming pc.

2) not knowledgeable about how to build a gaming pc and has no friends that can.

3) children that want to game obviously cant build a gaming pc, so they have to get a console, so mommy and daddy gets one for little Timmy.

4) the very rare few good exclusives. To this day the only exclusive that looks good for consoles isnt even out yet, and thats the LAST OF US. We dont even know if its going to be a good game.     Gears of war flopped, god of war flopped, halo is no where near what it once was before...

All the best games right now are  Multiplats..     Call of duty, Battlefield 3, Bioshock, Farcry 3, batman,tomb raider, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

 

Exclusives are worthless these days

 

Thats all i can see as reasons to get a console.  Basically you have to be either a KID or POOR. 

 

 

 

I also really find it funny that console gamers think console games equals money for the publisher and pc should be written off as piracy.     That is an absolute joke.       There hasnt been a single console game exclusive released in the last 3 years that has even sold more than 2.5 million copies...

 

PC exclusives get treated very well by their loyal fan base.    Just look at diablo 3.. 12 million copies sold.     World of warcraft = over 12 million players and 9 million that are still suscribed every month to this day.  

 

Has a console exclusive even came close to 9 million copies sold within the last 5 years?

 

Idiotic console fanboys. There is a reason why so much games keep releasing on pc despite piracy, BECAUSE ITS PROFITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER. and do note that everytime sales figures are mentioned for console games, they never include digital sales, which is the dominate distribution platform for the pc....

 

PC has the largest gaming base, and with a big industry shift to FREE TO PLAY.  PC is the best platform for that, because it reaches the widest amount of players and games dont go incompatible at the end of a consoles lifetime.   

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#46 deactivated-585ea4b128526
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Many consolites fail to comprehend that PCs gives better value for your money, and yet it will give you more power for your money. PC gaming is also cheaper.

savagetwinkie
value is a subjective thing, my ps3 has easily been a better value to me than my gaming rig. I imagine when ps4 comes out it will be better value than my recent laptop I purchased for gaming.

Even ten years ago when pc gaming peaked, it was never cost effective. Spent 3000 for 2 PCs, and hardware upgrades from 98 to 2006, purchased maybe 30 games. Ps2 was only 300 and had nearly a hundred games.
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#47 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Many consolites fail to comprehend that PCs gives better value for your money, and yet it will give you more power for your money. PC gaming is also cheaper.

joehult

value is a subjective thing, my ps3 has easily been a better value to me than my gaming rig. I imagine when ps4 comes out it will be better value than my recent laptop I purchased for gaming.

Even ten years ago when pc gaming peaked, it was never cost effective. Spent 3000 for 2 PCs, and hardware upgrades from 98 to 2006, purchased maybe 30 games. Ps2 was only 300 and had nearly a hundred games.

 

You're really bad at buying things.

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#48 blackace
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how much longer will you consolites live in denial!? :twisted:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121826-Star-Citizen-Dev-Consoles-Will-Lose-Advantage-to-PCs

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What!?!?!? So is Chris Roberts telling us that those $500 - $1000 video card are now going to be $100-$300 instead? When did nVidia announce that? $100-$400 motherboards and CPU chips will now drop 66%? Really?!? Tell Chris to have a Coke and a smile and STFU!!
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#49 Cyberdot
Member since 2013 • 3928 Posts

Of course, the PC has much better value for your money compared with what you get from consoles, add that with pricey console games. Ouch.

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#50 blackace
Member since 2002 • 23576 Posts
poor consolites. Heil68
Poor Chris is more like it. I hope he actually completes the game. That's what he should be doing instead of making idiotic rants.