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#1  Edited By jcrame10
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It would seem as if recent rumors surfacing about this April's Star Fox Zero for Wii U could possibly be true.

Apparently there are issues with Q&A, with the game not making its mark. A lot of it seems to do with motion controls that are obviously not 100% ready for release.

What do you think will happen: Star Fox gets another last minute delay, or the game releases with bad controls aka Skyward Sword 2.0?

http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/rumor-more-details-on-star-fox-zeros-development-situation/

http://nintendoenthusiast.com/article/double-take-should-we-be-worried-about-starfox-zero/

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#2 jcrame10
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@jcrame10: a few more articles that focus more on quality assurance:

http://segmentnext.com/2016/02/10/star-fox-zero-is-so-bad-it-might-not-pass-quality-assurance-rumor/

http://nintendoinquirer.com/blog/2016/02/09/rumor-star-fox-zero-could-be-facing-another-delay/

http://www.gamnesia.com/news/rumors-are-growing-that-star-fox-zero-might-fail-its-quality-check-and-isnt

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#3 Eikichi-Onizuka
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I'd rather it be delayed again than have crap controls.

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#4 Primorandomguy
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Oh Nintendo....

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#5 NathanDrakeSwag
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This game looked like shit from the moment it was revealed. Awful graphics, bad gameplay, no content. Anyone who expects it to be good is delusional.

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#6 jcrame10
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

This game looked like shit from the moment it was revealed. Awful graphics, bad gameplay, no content. Anyone who expects it to be good is delusional.

Agreed. Very lazy like a lot of their games recently; its a complete rehash just with one new gimmick. I would prefer to see another Star Fox Adventures, but unfortunately not many people liked that game.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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There are not forced motion controls, they have always stated that you can turn them off. Also, Skyward Sword had great motion controls, i played it day 1. Star Fox Zero will release when Star Fox is ready. Gametrailers got to play the game and said it was fun.

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@mesome713 said:

There are not forced motion controls, they have stated always that you can turn them off.

yep you're right, they've just stated in some articles though that the "full experience" will be with using the motion controls.

editing it now.

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#9  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@jcrame10: Of course, gyro is the most superior home console control method.

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@jcrame10: Of course, gyro is the most superior console control method.

I'm actually going to agree with you here and say gyro controls for a game like this could potentially be amazing and the best gamepad experience available on the wii u. I think it could be hard and awkward to focus on the gamepad as the cockpit while trying to watch the tv as well for everything else.

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#11 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@jcrame10: Yeah, you wouldnt do both. You would use either or. Think of one like a navigator. You wouldnt use your navigator while your driving at the same time, would be hard to look at both.

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#12 jcrame10
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@mesome713: yeah, i guess this is true.

Hopefully if the rumors turn out to be legit they will be smart and delay it. It would completely ruin the game experience if it doesn't work properly. No shame in delaying a game; Uncharted 4's been delayed like 3 times now.

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@jcrame10: Yeah, im not sure how close they are to being done, but im sure they will just delay it again if needed. Nintendo is very picky with how polished their games are.

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It's not going to be good, I can tell. Still getting it though. I'd say at best it's worth playing through once, but nothing will be memorable at all. Looks bland and boring honestly.

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@yokofox33 said:

It's not going to be good, I can tell. Still getting it though. I'd say at best it's worth playing through once, but nothing will be memorable at all. Looks bland and boring honestly.

I still have a video game rental store near me, so if they get it in i'll just do that.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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If it needs to be delayed to fix problems then delay it. Don't be like a lot of other developers lately and release a broken game with the plan to patch it later.

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#17 nintendoboy16
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@jcrame10 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

This game looked like shit from the moment it was revealed. Awful graphics, bad gameplay, no content. Anyone who expects it to be good is delusional.

Agreed. Very lazy like a lot of their games recently; its a complete rehash just with one new gimmick. I would prefer to see another Star Fox Adventures, but unfortunately not many people liked that game.

Even though since Adventures, people have BEGGED for Star Fox to go back up in space and only got part of that with Assault being the Rebel Strike of the series (with better on-foot stages, granted, but still). Now the series go back up to space and it's bashed for being a rehash?

There is a reason I think Nintendo should take Jack Black's advice and NOT to remain in the games industry should hardware fail on them:

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#18 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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This game really looks terrible. Shame that the first Star Fox game in over a decade looks like a low budget spin off.

That said, Nintendo have actually confirmed an April release date AFTER these rumors broke out, iirc

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#19 jcrame10
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@nintendoboy16: I'm sure I'm in the minority. PERSONALLY, I think the game looks pretty bad and like a rehash. I liked the style of star fox adventures better, probably because I like Zelda a lot and never really cared for the star fox games anyways.

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@Eikichi-Onizuka said:

I'd rather it be delayed again than have crap controls.

This. I would much rather use a solid Pro controller to play this then have to deal with constantly lifting the Gamepad up in front of my face.

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#21 fueled-system
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This game just looks like it is going to be a bargain bin mess which is sad. Delay it and fix everything, or honestly just make a new Star Fox Adventures instead

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#22  Edited By jg4xchamp
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A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.

So I'm not too bothered, plus I got plenty to play in the next few months: Street Fighter V, Super Hot, and hopefully Enter the Gungeon. April already had Dark Souls 3, Quantum Break, Uncharted 4, and Total War:Warhammer. Plus there is the off chance Bravely Second doesn't blow cock like the first game. The next month has Mirror's Edge. It's a busy first half this year.

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#23 Bigboi500
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Delay if needed. I can wait.

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#24  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Just bring it to NX and you have all the power it needs.

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#25 TheCouchPotater
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I dont have high hopes for this new Star Fox. Miyamotos involvement is the only reason I am remotely interested.

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#26 quatoe
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Delay it if you need, but doesn't bother me either way. I never had issues with Skyward Swords controls so I am okay if it turns out like that. :p

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#27 TheNDefender
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And yet this rumor could be false. Nintendo just needs a direct or needs to announce something about this so everyone can stop worrying. I heard that the controls were weird, but good enough. For the people who said the game is bad because it isn't doing anything new, this is a revamp of the series, so it would be safe for Nintendo if they went to the series's roots in order to provide a fun experience of nostalgia for old fans, and a cool new experience for new fans. Also, they would have said something about delaying the game again sooner. We are in still in February, and March is around the corner, so Nintendo does have time to fix this problem if it exists until a week or two before its release on April 22.

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#28 trugs26
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@jcrame10 said:

or the game releases with bad controls aka Skyward Sword 2.0?

I don't get this reference. SS released with how the controls were intended.

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#29 Telekill
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@mesome713: Skyward Sword's forced motion controls ruined me not just on that game but motion controls in general. It was THE main reason I initially passed on the Wii-U (though other reasons followed). Needless to say, I was incredibly happy when motion controls were removed for the remaster of Uncharted Drake's Fortune on PS4.

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#30 GameboyTroy
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I think its best to wait for the game to come out but if its bad its bad.

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#31  Edited By lamprey263
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bullshit, NX launch title confirmed

that would be the smarter move anyways, best to get the most mileage out of it instead of wasting it on the Wii U's meager fanbase

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#32  Edited By TheNDefender
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@nintendoboy16: Worse case is the NX would be a worse selling Wii U. Nintendo would still survive, but they would probably recall the NX (if it fails). If the Wii U didn't wake up Nintendo, then the NX (if it fails) definitely will. I personally think that the NX will do great, and I hope to see it do fantastic in the market whenever it releases. I think Kimishima knows what he is doing because he was one of the minority who said that the Wii U wouldn't do good because it was too similar to the Wii. I'm confident he will do great. He announced the My Nintendo account which will tie together everything, which is their first step into a better online ecosystem. Heck, their smartphone games will rack in a ton of money (if they do it right) so they will be kicking some booty and taking names if it's a success.

Oops, you were talking about the fanbase weren't you?

Yes, some fanbases are pretty bad, but in my opinion, Nintendo's will never be as bad as Sonic's.

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#33  Edited By emgesp
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The game looked rough as hell. This could use another year of dev time. Shoot, make it an NX launch title.

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#34  Edited By Sushiglutton
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Pro tip from me to Nintendo for their next console NX. This is what a controller looks like!

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#35 GameboyTroy
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@lamprey263 said:

bullshit, NX launch title confirmed

that would be the smarter move anyways, best to get the most mileage out of it instead of wasting it on the Wii U's meager fanbase

That's a good idea. They need to reveal the NX before E3. Mid April seems right.

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#36  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@Sushiglutton:

Your close, but a real controller actually looks like this.
Your close, but a real controller actually looks like this.

Your tech is not bad though, we tried it a few gens ago and still use it.
Your tech is not bad though, we tried it a few gens ago and still use it.

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this better come out fast, i really want to see how ugly it truly is

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#38  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@emgesp said:

The game looked rough as hell. This could you another year of dev time. Shoot, make it an NX launch title.

Because that's smart. Release it for the new console with scathing reviews.

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#39  Edited By thehig1
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they could not have motion controls, that would be an improvement.

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#40 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@thehig1: You can play it without motion controls already.

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#41  Edited By emgesp
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@emgesp said:

The game looked rough as hell. This could you another year of dev time. Shoot, make it an NX launch title.

Because that's smart. Release it for the new console with scathing reviews.

No, release it for both the Wii U and NX. The NX could use as many games as possible at launch, especially from established franchises.

The game just needs more time in the oven and it could be decent. Hey, I want this game to be as great as possible as Star Fox 64 is one of my all time favorite games. Easily in my top 5.

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#42 93BlackHawk93
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Delay it, I say.

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#43  Edited By MirkoS77
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@jcrame10 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

This game looked like shit from the moment it was revealed. Awful graphics, bad gameplay, no content. Anyone who expects it to be good is delusional.

Agreed. Very lazy like a lot of their games recently; its a complete rehash just with one new gimmick. I would prefer to see another Star Fox Adventures, but unfortunately not many people liked that game.

Even though since Adventures, people have BEGGED for Star Fox to go back up in space and only got part of that with Assault being the Rebel Strike of the series (with better on-foot stages, granted, but still). Now the series go back up to space and it's bashed for being a rehash?

There is a reason I think Nintendo should take Jack Black's advice and NOT to remain in the games industry should hardware fail on them:

"Fail on them."

*sigh*

No, people want Starfox. It's being bashed for 1) looking like a low-budget, half-assed effort that could've been accomplished on the GCN/Wii sans HD, and b) they're once again shoehorning in useless gimmicky bullshit just because they have to be so different and unique and validate their choices in a moronic, antiquated hardware philosophy, even going so far as to burden their own software in the process of that distinguishment. Had this game looked anywhere close to 2016 standards instead of y'know.....2006 ones (even with motion controls), there would be MUCH less bitching, I can promise you. This is obviously a budget attempt by Nintendo. STARFOX!

Gamers desire certain standards in a technology driven medium that Nintendo stubbornly, consistently refuses to concede to. Gamers want a Starfox that looks modern. We've already shared time with the GCN. Apologists can shove the argument that graphics are irrelevant up their backside, or shut their mouths and instead practice their principles and go back to playing the Atari 2600. They do matter very much. Starfox is one of Nintendo's main properties, it deserves to be accorded full budgetary allowances and the fullest potential this medium can offer.

I'd like to say it amazes me that people act bewildered or take the position that "Nintendo can't win" when the root of their problems of why it appears that way is so blatantly obvious, but it doesn't.

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#44  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@MirkoS77: No we dont, last time Nintendo tried to modernize Starfox it was met with backlash and poor sales. People have begged Nintendo for a N64 inspired game ever since it came out. This is what Starfox fans have always wanted. It doesnt get more throwback then this in gaming, this game looks amazing for me, i love the throwback style. But i also love Starfox 64 boxy style.

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#45 TheNDefender
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I guess Nintendo won't be 'barrel rolling' from this rumor

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#46  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@thendefender: They have already addressed this rumor by announcing a release date for Star Fox Zero after the rumor.

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Game looks great. Great visuals inspired by original design concepts.

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#48  Edited By MirkoS77
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@mesome713 said:

@MirkoS77: No we dont, last time Nintendo tried to modernize Starfox it was met with backlash and poor sales. People have begged Nintendo for a N64 inspired game ever since it came out. This is what Starfox fans have always wanted. It doesnt get more throwback in this in gaming, this game looks amazing for me, i love the throwback style. But i also love Starfox 64 boxy style.

Sure it's a throwback in style, but how anyone could wonder why people are nevertheless bitching in spite of that is nothing to ponder on. I'm telling you why: it's because the game, presentation wise, looks a decade past. Do you honestly believe people would be griping if this game's presentation measured up to the present? Of course they wouldn't.

I often wonder who is the bigger fan of Nintendo: those who are NOT content with what Nintendo is doing to many of their IPs, or those who are. I for one don't think we've waited this long for another Starfox to only have it seen as some low-budget stopgap. Or even better, Federation Force. Yea, enjoy that Chibi bullshit while the rest of us remember Metroid for what it was and for how it DEFINED gaming so long ago yet is now relegated to a laughing stock. I doubt you care or can even see this, because anything Nintendo does you defend wholeheartedly. I hope you enjoy it. Me, these IPs deserve much better than how Nintendo is treating them due to philosophies that need serious introspection and reconsideration.

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#49  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@MirkoS77: Wonder why people are whining? Are you new to the internet?

You mean a Starfox made by the legendary Miyamoto and helped by the famous Platinum Studios?

Or the Metroid Federation Force made by the Legendary dude behind the Metroid Prime series? You doubt these games you have never fully seen or played based on what you think a game looks like?

Also, Chibi Robo is a good fun game, deal with it.

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#50 onesiphorus
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I am surprising that people are falling for rumors from usually little-known web sites.