StarCraft 2 not exclusive?

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Har har I guess it's no longer an exclusive. :lol:

TOAO_Cyrus1

We just differ in opinion, then.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"] Yes the difference is the operating system and pc != windows.TOAO_Cyrus1

Where did I say it was?

No. I was just pointing out the slippery slope of the logic. In the end, the PC side includes a whole host of sub-categories; whereas each console is considered separate. It is an interesting nuance. In any case, my first post pointing out the irony of the logic remains correct. That is all.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Har har I guess it's no longer an exclusive. :lol:

SgtKevali

We just differ in opinion, then.

Well in my opinion neither Halo Reach, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2-3, GoW3 are exclusives either. If you don't agree then I guess we just differ in opinion then.

The truth is that PC gamers don't need to squabble about exclusives, because we already know that we've got the superior platforms. There's no arguing it. You console peasants pretend like system exclusives make your brand loyalty less ridiculous.

:lol: A Mac is a PC lol.

Why would I need or want to do that? For 80% of their games (stat made up on the spot and copyrighted by me), I can buy the exact same game on the other platform and vice versa.

BTW, congratulations on being able to install Windows on a Mac. I imagine if I really wanted to I could take my PS3 fat, gut all of its components, and then take all of my 360 components and 'install' them in my PS3 casing. Would I then have a PS3 capable of playing all the 360 exclusives? :)

Because that is what you are effectively saying. The difference between a Mac and a PC is the o/s.

Plus this topic is serious business :)

SUD123456

Trying too hard and not making any sense.

PCs use the same hardware, the only difference is the software we call "Operating System". You can take a regular PC and install Mac on it (Google/Youtube). Just like you can install Windows on a Mac-PC. All of this is possible without taking your illogical scenario of replacing components into casings to make some bizarre point that doesn't make sense.

Someone else brought up different graphical/performance results. News Flash: All PCs differ in performance due to the incredible amount of component diversity, the PC/Mac comparison is simply another example.

We all know why we're discussing this. It's because every console fanboy on this forum is scared of the megaton StarCraft II will be.In the end it all doesn't matter because next to "Forums" I see "System Wars", not "Operating System Wars". Better luck next time.

PC and Mac are different platforms, let's get real. If they're the same thing, that would make the PS3 and the 360 the same thing. Ninja-Hippo

So is Linux, but you still call it a PC.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]It amuses me to see PC gamers claim Mac users as one of their own for the sake of this argument.knight0151

Ooh, some console gamers must be getting mad it's not coming out for consoles, it seems like.

PC and Mac are different platforms, let's get real. If they're the same thing, that would make the PS3 and the 360 the same thing. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]PC and Mac are different platforms, let's get real. If they're the same thing, that would make the PS3 and the 360 the same thing. CAPSROGUE

Let's take a moment to use our brains here. It's that mass between your ears. Can you install PS3' firmware on the X360 and run PS3 games? No. Can you install X360's firmware on the PS3 and run X360 games on it? No.

Can you install Windows on a Mac and run Windows games on it? Yes. Can you install Mac OS X on a PC and run Mac OS X games on it? Yes. Why? Because they run on the same hardware A.K.A system. *looks at upper left corner* Yup, System Wars.

Next time, try to use your brainz more before you click that submit button.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]PC and Mac are different platforms, let's get real. If they're the same thing, that would make the PS3 and the 360 the same thing. Led_poison

[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]PC and Mac are different platforms, let's get real. If they're the same thing, that would make the PS3 and the 360 the same thing. Ninja-Hippo

Let's take a moment to use our brains here. It's that mass between your ears. Can you install PS3' firmware on the X360 and run PS3 games? No. Can you install X360's firmware on the PS3 and run X360 games on it? No.

Can you install Windows on a Mac and run Windows games on it? Yes. Can you install Mac OS X on a PC and run Mac OS X games on it? Yes. Why? Because they run on the same hardware A.K.A system. *looks at upper left corner* Yup, System Wars.

Next time, try to use your brainz more before you click that submit button.

Can you play a PS3 game on the 360? No. Can I install Linux on a seperate partition on my PC, then play Diablo 2? Yes. :|

Yet another thread that shows how little console fanboys know about PCs. A Mac is just a different OS, this is system wars not OS wars.

Can you play a PS3 game on the 360? No. Can I install Linux on a seperate partition on my PC, then play Diablo 2? Yes. :|

WhenCicadasCry

Consider this, can you take your PS3 disc and play it in an Xbox 360. No?

Can you take a PC-DVD and play it in a Mac? Yes?

A Mac is a brand of Personal Computer. We don't call Window's operated PC's Windows, or Linux, it's just that PC's are affiliated with running Windows by default.

The Mac is different yes, but that's just the OS, windows is different, Linux is different, they all play the same games though.

[QUOTE="Led_poison"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]PC and Mac are different platforms, let's get real. If they're the same thing, that would make the PS3 and the 360 the same thing. Ninja-Hippo

No it isnt.

They are both PCs that are simply running on different operation systems. The forum is specifically called SYSTEM WARS as a system they are both personal computers.

Consider this, can you take your PS3 disc and play it in an Xbox 360. No?

Can you take a PC-DVD and play it in a Mac? Yes?

A Mac is a brand of Personal Computer. We don't call Window's operated PC's Windows, or Linux, it's just that PC's are affiliated with running Windows by default.

The Mac is different yes, but that's just the OS, windows is different, Linux is different, they all play the same games though.

lucfonzy

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Led_poison"] No when you can install Windows and OS X on the same PC. Can you say that about the Xbox and PS3?UnknownSniper65

No it isnt.

They are both PCs that are simply running on different operation systems. The forum is specifically called SYSTEM WARS as a system they are both personal computers.

Mac is a platform.

Windows is a platform.

Many games only work on Windows. Some things only work on Mac. Mac only just got steam, and it's very limited compared to the windows version. The two are competing platforms with different software available on each. To say they are actually somehow the same product just doesn't compute.

macs are there own thing they do everything better than reg gaming pc because apple makes them so they are kind of diffefernt. A pple is 1st class hardware coltgames

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] The operating system is the platform. Saying i can buy a copy of windows and OS X is the same as saying i can buy an Xbox 360 and a PS3. Ninja-Hippo

No it isnt.

They are both PCs that are simply running on different operation systems. The forum is specifically called SYSTEM WARS as a system they are both personal computers.

Mac is a PC,a point that is proven by the fact that you can install a partition of windows on it. Can you do the same with PS3 and Xbox 360? No! Point proven.

Macs Running Windows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkp0WGUR6Qo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0N3CVb5yMI

Two videos of Crysis running on Macs using a Windows OS.

PC users hiding behind the Mac I see :roll:

[QUOTE="lucfonzy"]

Consider this, can you take your PS3 disc and play it in an Xbox 360. No?

Can you take a PC-DVD and play it in a Mac? Yes?

A Mac is a brand of Personal Computer. We don't call Window's operated PC's Windows, or Linux, it's just that PC's are affiliated with running Windows by default.

The Mac is different yes, but that's just the OS, windows is different, Linux is different, they all play the same games though.

Ninja-Hippo

"Xbox and playstation are just different kinds of the same thing; consoles."

ps3 slim and ps3 fat are just different kind of ps3s so technically ps3 has no exlusives!

PC users hiding behind the Mac I see :roll:

hd5870corei7

Saying an OS is the equivalent of another console system is just pure ignorance.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Har har I guess it's no longer an exclusive. :lol:

SgtKevali

We just differ in opinion, then.

Mac is a PC,a point that is proven by the fact that you can install a partition of windows on it. Can you do the same with PS3 and Xbox 360? No! Point proven.

Macs Running Windows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkp0WGUR6Qo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0N3CVb5yMI

Two videos of Crysis running on Macs using a Windows OS.

UnknownSniper65

Did you not just ignore my argument though in favor of a more preferable one? I'll repeat it again; Windows and OS X are two different, competing platforms with different software exclusive to each. How does that NOT make anything which spans both platforms multiplat?

Why would I need or want to do that? For 80% of their games (stat made up on the spot and copyrighted by me), I can buy the exact same game on the other platform and vice versa.

BTW, congratulations on being able to install Windows on a Mac. I imagine if I really wanted to I could take my PS3 fat, gut all of its components, and then take all of my 360 components and 'install' them in my PS3 casing. Would I then have a PS3 capable of playing all the 360 exclusives? :)

Because that is what you are effectively saying. The difference between a Mac and a PC is the o/s.

Plus this topic is serious business :)

SUD123456

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

PC users hiding behind the Mac I see :roll:

UnknownSniper65

Saying an OS is the equivalent of another console system is just pure ignorance.

PC is not a platform per se, when people say 'PC' they mean Windows. Windows is the platform as is Mac or Linux.

It really is rediculous how people are trying to hide the Mac platform under the PC. No one would call a piece of Mac software 'PC'.

PC is not a platform per se, when people say 'PC' they mean Windows. Windows is the platform as is Mac or Linux.

It really is rediculous how people are trying to hide the Mac platform under the PC.

thecapsaicinkid

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

PC users hiding behind the Mac I see :roll:

hd5870corei7

Saying an OS is the equivalent of another console system is just pure ignorance.

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

Saying an OS is the equivalent of another console system is just pure ignorance.

toast_burner

If Gow Collection and Sly collection aren't exclusive, then neither is starcraft II or WoW :P

PC is not a platform per se, when people say 'PC' they mean Windows. Windows is the platform as is Mac or Linux.

It really is rediculous how people are trying to hide the Mac platform under the PC. No one would call a piece of Mac software 'PC'.

thecapsaicinkid

That is because Apple launched a large advertising campaign to seperate themselves from the term PC. A Mac is still a personal computer by definition.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

If Gow Collection and Sly collection aren't exclusive, then neither is starcraft II or WoW :Phd5870corei7

I'm a big fan of the phrase "A picture is worth a thousand words."

CAPSROGUE

that picture is awesome.

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"] That makes no sensetoast_burner

If its the operating system that determines if its a whole new platform, then doesnt that make every PS2 game multiplatform since the PS3 can play them? it is running on two different platforms, isnt it?

If its the operating system that determines if its a whole new platform, then doesnt that make every PS2 game multiplatform since the PS3 can play them? it is running on two different platforms, isnt it?

XaosII

It seems to me that the at times illogical and frustrating yet broadly accepted 'rules' of system wars regarding multiplats and what-not apply to everything to make games 'not count' until, oh no, the PC is finally the platform in the crosshairs. All of a sudden we start arguing about the technical definition of the name 'system wars', the extent to which an OS is a platform, whether modding your machine makes it the same thing etc etc. All of a sudden the rules are WRONG and must be changed! Like i said; Starcraft 2 comes in two boxes. One says PC. One says Mac. Multiplat. Ninja-Hippo

Actually its on the same disk in one box, which is pretty awesome. The content's the same. The only difference is just the .exe file.

[QUOTE="thecapsaicinkid"]

PC is not a platform per se, when people say 'PC' they mean Windows. Windows is the platform as is Mac or Linux.

It really is rediculous how people are trying to hide the Mac platform under the PC. No one would call a piece of Mac software 'PC'.

UnknownSniper65

That is because Apple launched a large advertising campaign to seperate themselves from the term PC. A Mac is still a personal computer by definition.

Yes it is, as is a whole bunch of other 'computers'. Personal Computer is a phrase to describe something like chair or television, it is NOT a platform.

Windows games are written to work with Windows APIs, not Mac APIs or Linux APIs. They are not written to work with PC hardware either, no code talks directly to the PC hardware underneath, it is completely abstracted. It is written for the OS and the API it provides.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] What I mean is... If you have to get all technical and say that Gow Collection is a multiplat because it is a remade collection of two _PS2_ games on _PS3_ Then I think we should get all technical and say SCII is multiplat because Mac =/= PC.

Ninja-Hippo

yup its all down to OS, you can not put a PC game disk and install it onto a Mac OS. they are just mad because Mac is getting games they used to love, like TF2, Portal, Counter Strike, Half-Life series.

If its the operating system that determines if its a whole new platform, then doesnt that make every PS2 game multiplatform since the PS3 can play them? it is running on two different platforms, isnt it?

XaosII