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#1 illegalimigrant
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Which one is better from looking at the videos. Please look at the videos!

And once again look at both videos before voting.

Star Craft 2

Empire Total War

Both videos are multiplayer battles.

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#2 Lief_Ericson
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Empire because of the sheer epicness

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#3 True_Gamer_
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Which one is better from looking at the videos. Please look at the videos!

Star Craft 2

Empire Total War

Both videos are multiplayer battles.

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Blizzard is stuck in the past............... and in S.Korea. I mean for how long can they beat this dead horse called Dune 2?
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#4 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"]

Which one is better from looking at the videos. Please look at the videos!

Star Craft 2

Empire Total War

Both videos are multiplayer battles.

True_Gamer_

Blizzard is stuck in the past............... and in S.Korea. I mean for how long can they beat this dead horse called Dune 2?

I agree but there is so many people that don't know there are other strategy games other than starcraft or old dune RTS type.

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#5 taker42
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With so much changes in the RTS genre recently, SC2 does look rather underwhelming.

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#6 Prydes
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Empire Total War. That game feels a little underrated to me, like enough people just haven't played it still.
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#7 hopesfall2own
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shouldn't be hard for sc2 to outbest a huge flop like tw.
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#8 illegalimigrant
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shouldn't be hard for sc2 to outbest a huge flop like tw. hopesfall2own
Have you checked out the video. Because if you have you are either blind. Or think that its a joke link that redirects you to the patriot movie.
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#9 hopesfall2own
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]shouldn't be hard for sc2 to outbest a huge flop like tw. illegalimigrant
Have you checked out the video. Because if you have you are either blind. Or think that its a joke link that redirects you to the patriot movie.

You don't think sc2 can score better than a freaking 8.5? Please. Just because there's alot of units on screen doesn't mean its nice to look at. sc2's buildings are enough to put it over the top of tw.

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#10 MBP_King
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I think SC2 because Blizzard always supports the Mac platform :P

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#11 caughtjoo
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Both look good, SC2.
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#12 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]shouldn't be hard for sc2 to outbest a huge flop like tw. hopesfall2own

Have you checked out the video. Because if you have you are either blind. Or think that its a joke link that redirects you to the patriot movie.

You don't think sc2 can score better than a freaking 8.5? Please. Just because there's alot of units on screen doesn't mean its nice to look at. sc2's buildings are enough to put it over the top of tw.

Have you played the game. The score means little to the gameplay. If you ever played any total war game you would understand there is no going back to the old dune RTS gameplay.
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#13 illegalimigrant
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I think SC2 because Blizzard always supports the Mac platform :P

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Can't argue with that.
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#14 whatisazerg
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Starcraft II will be leagues better than Empire: Total Flop!

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#15 illegalimigrant
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Starcraft II will be leagues better than Empire: Total Flop!

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Keep kidding your self. Empire is real strategy where everything is taken into consideration. StarCraft 2 is just see who can get more resources.
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#16 Panther501
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Even though starcraft 2 will sell a bijillion more units, empire: total war will probably be the better game.

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#17 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Starcraft II will be leagues better than Empire: Total Flop!

illegalimigrant

Keep kidding your self. Empire is real strategy where everything is taken into consideration. StarCraft 2 is just see who can get more resources.

Keep telling yourself that.

Starcraft II will be played competitively for 10 years, by this time next year, no one will be talking about Empire: Total Flop. If you think Starcraft is just about collecting the most minerals/gas, then you haven't played much Starcraft.... or you have and you lose alot.

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#18 agentfred
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Probably Empire. Starcraft 2 seems to be more of an evolutionary development over the original, and after more than a decade, I think it needs to do more than that.

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#19 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Starcraft II will be leagues better than Empire: Total Flop!

whatisazerg

Keep kidding your self. Empire is real strategy where everything is taken into consideration. StarCraft 2 is just see who can get more resources.

Keep telling yourself that.

Starcraft II will be played competitively for 10 years, by this time next year, no one will be talking about Empire: Total Flop. If you think Starcraft is just about collecting the most minerals/gas, then you haven't played much Starcraft.... or you have and you lose alot.

If you want credibility, don't make a username that, for the knowledgable gamers, is obviously a refernece to StarCraft. And you think an 8.5 game is bad?:lol: If you think games scoring in the 8 range is bad, you miss out on the best parts of gaming.

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#20 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] Keep kidding your self. Empire is real strategy where everything is taken into consideration. StarCraft 2 is just see who can get more resources.ChrisSpartan117

Keep telling yourself that.

Starcraft II will be played competitively for 10 years, by this time next year, no one will be talking about Empire: Total Flop. If you think Starcraft is just about collecting the most minerals/gas, then you haven't played much Starcraft.... or you have and you lose alot.

If you want credibility, don't make a username that, for the knowledgable gamers, is obviously a refernece to StarCraft. And you think an 8.5 game is bad?:lol: If you think games scoring in the 8 range is bad, you miss out on the best parts of gaming.

I didn't say Empire Total Flop was bad.... but it can't be argued that it was hyped AAA and it didn't meet it's hype, therefore its a FLOP!

The game I'm playing the most right now is RE5, which is technically a flop, but I love it. So take your assumptions somewhere else k, thx!

And how does my username reflect my credibility? It's an inside joke for anyone who's been using these forums for a while.

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#21 MetroidPrimePwn
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I like the artstyIe for StarCraft II, but I do think Empire: Total War is better than StarCraft II will be. StarCraft was and still is an amazing game, and the little improvements it looks like they've made insure that the sequel is going to be great along the same lines, but I've been spoiled by the more tactical action of Empire: Total War, the genre-hybridization of Sins of a Solar Empire, the objective-based battles in Company of Heroes, etc. There's been a lot of evolution in Real-Time Strategy games since StarCraft came out, and although I don't think it's enough to leave the Dune formula entirely behind, it's going to make it seem a lot less fresh.

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#22 AdrianWerner
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They're too diffrent to compare. Empire appeals to me far more though, I want to be a ruler and a general, while in Starcraft I'm a CEO of a construction company with oversized security team ;)

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#23 Ewok432
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starcraft 2 and its not even close

"the game replay doesnt show who the opponents were" :lol:

getta real rts

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#24 crazymaghie123
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Starcraft 2 for me...

Yes, like most gamers I love to see innovation but....why worry about innovation when you can worry about whats fun..I'll see lots of new cool experiences but for this title its sticking true to the starcraft name. If Starcraft 2 came out and was completely different it would be kind of like "what happened to the game we knew and loved"...Anyways I'm really excited for Starcraft 2...hopefully when I upgrade and pick up Empire I'll be proven wrong about my original pick...

As for now since I've played Starcraft 2 so I'll go with it (Yes at PAX there were starcraft 2 booths...it felt fresh and fun unlike what most people are thinking it will feel like)

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#25 Juggernaut140
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getta real rts

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Yeah Spam Craft 2!

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#26 aliblabla2007
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sc2's buildings are enough to put it over the top of tw.

hopesfall2own

We are discussing strategy games. If you want to stare at pretty buildings, go play a city-builder. Otherwise, I'll focus on the part of a strategy game that actually matters.

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#27 DOF_power
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^ Empire: Total War will end up as the better game, but StarCraft 2 will sell more.

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#28 mr_mozilla
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E:TW makes SC2 look hopelessly dated both graphics and gameplay vise.
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#29 Wartzay
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Both are awesome, there is no "better".
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#30 clembo1990
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shouldn't be hard for sc2 to outbest a huge flop like tw. hopesfall2own
flop =/= bad game :roll: unless you think GS is actually good at reviewing games :roll:
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#31 Enosh88
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Have you played the game. The score means little to the gameplay. If you ever played any total war game you would understand there is no going back to the old dune RTS gameplay.illegalimigrant

you do realise that there is basicly the same amout of change from M2:tw->E:tw as it is betwen sc1->sc2?

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#32 DeckardLee
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Of course, Empire Total War is going to look better in videos. That's like asking which looks better in videos; Haze or Half-Life.

StarCraft 2 is the clear winner as far as gameplay and longevity is concerned.

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#33 Eddie-Vedder
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TW looks more epic, but SC2 will be the better game, you Blizzard doubters really need to stop doubting :P Blizzard does not fail.

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#34 Mehdi1984
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The two are so completely different that it's silly to compare. However, I think SC2 will be way better then Empire in my book. I simply enjoy that particular formula of RTS over the one Empire has.
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#35 Belwar555
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1) Personnaly, I believe that if anyone says SC2 looks better, they are fanboys and if anyone says that TW has more depth and starategy, thus more length, is also a fanboy. This is because in TW, a large portion of the game is spent in an overview map, not in real time combat, thus much less intense, while in SC games are all real-time, include a larger DIVERSITY (not number) of units and upgrades. (BTW, this is reffering only to the MP, not SP) 2) You cannot compare these two games well enough to do a poll. Sure, both are 'strategy', but thats it. Its like saying whats better, wine or water. Sure both are drinks, but are entierly different. One is turn-based/real-time battle strategy, while the other is fully real-time
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#36 SamiRDuran
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as much as i like empires gameplay i got to say the game looks fugly to me when i play it.

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shouldn't be hard for sc2 to outbest a huge flop like tw. hopesfall2own
and yet ETW>every console game :?
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#38 404-not-found
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SC2 by miles, Blizzard knows what quality and polish are.
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#39 agentfred
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you do realise that there is basicly the same amout of change from M2:tw->E:tw as it is betwen sc1->sc2?>Enosh88
I didn't. In Empire, they've added the technology tree, naval combat, overhauled the agent system, the trading system, and drastically changed how each region operates, and lets not forget the simple change in time periods changes everything. When I look at Starcraft 2, I just don't see that many game changing additions. I'm sure Starcraft 2 will be a great game, but I agree with most posters here that it's stuck in the past.
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[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"]Have you played the game. The score means little to the gameplay. If you ever played any total war game you would understand there is no going back to the old dune RTS gameplay.Enosh88

you do realise that there is basicly the same amout of change from M2:tw->E:tw as it is betwen sc1->sc2?

No. The change in E:TW is far bigger than in SC2, it's not even close.

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#41 thepwninator
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Empire because of the sheer epicness

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Empire because Starcraft 2 isn't out yet.
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#42 Redmoonxl2
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Empire because Starcraft 2 isn't out yet.thepwninator

Stop using that there logic.

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#43 thespywholied
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both look epic.... but... damn it! i might just might go with empires on this one. :)

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#44 Wasdie  Moderator
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Seriously comparing those two? That is as different as comparing Gear of War 2 with Super Mario Bros...

Seriously. Most PC stratagy gamers love both because one provides a slow burning, massive, tactical campaign while the other one is fast paced, action packed, and loaded with competitive play.

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#45 Postal_Guy
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Empire.

Though I think that SC2 will score better and sell more.

Still Empire is the very deffinition of epic.

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#46 Espada12
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SC2

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1) Personnaly, I believe that if anyone says SC2 looks better, they are fanboys and if anyone says that TW has more depth and starategy, thus more length, is also a fanboy. This is because in TW, a large portion of the game is spent in an overview map, not in real time combat, thus much less intense, while in SC games are all real-time, include a larger DIVERSITY (not number) of units and upgrades. (BTW, this is reffering only to the MP, not SP) 2) You cannot compare these two games well enough to do a poll. Sure, both are 'strategy', but thats it. Its like saying whats better, wine or water. Sure both are drinks, but are entierly different. One is turn-based/real-time battle strategy, while the other is fully real-timeBelwar555

I can bet my left arm that you havent played ANY total war game....

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#48 Postal_Guy
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^ He prolly hasnt played TW.

because if he did have he would know that the overview map can be VERY intense

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#49 mirgamer
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Empire Total War is a more "comprehensive" strategy game since its about managing an empire, after all. While Starcraft, the player only concerns himself with that particular map he's playing and what he does in that map, has no consequences at all, other than win or lose. But it is more suited for competitive play because ETW wasnt built for competitive play, the same way Operation Flashpoint isnt as suitable for comp play as compared to Quake or Counterstrike, despite the former being a much much more comprehensive fps game. That said, theres VERY little innovation in Empire Total War since there are very minute differences between Shogun total War and Empire Total War. And guess when Shogun was released? about the same time Starcraft was. ETW basically just streamlined whatever STW, MTW, RTW, MTW2 had and added in naval tactical battle. But the core gameplay is still largely the same. Its still a kick ass game though, why fix stuff that isn't broken ? :) Still, ETW on the whole is a much larger scaled and complete strategy game. Whats left for debate are only personal opinions and preferences.
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#50 mirgamer
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Also, its a bit idiotic to compare TW with Starcraft series. One is a hybrid of turn-based Civilisation-style game with Real-Time tactical battles (that has NO resource collecting/base-building/queue mechanics) and the other is...well, who don't know Starcraft? Its like asking who's the better athlete, a 100m sprinter or a 20km distance runner? Sure they are both athletes, they both run....but COME ON! Its more fitting to compare Starcraft 2 with Command & Conquer series.