Starcraft II gets a Graphical Update (56k warning)

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#1 Mehdi1984
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If you thought the game looked good before. Check this out.

http://kotaku.com/5156241/starcraft-ii-graphical-updates-before-and-after





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#2 dgsag
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That's actually pretty significant. It's like they doubled the detail.
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#3 Puckhog04
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Looks good. Not quite as pleasing as Empire Total War to look at but very good visuals. Easily one of my most anticipated games this year.
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#4 waynehead895
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Looks like they removed the color. But it looks much better that way.
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#5 Locke562
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It would have been nice to see it in game. :P
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#6 DAZZER7
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Looks like they have added reflection and normal ma layers to the models. Thats pretty significant yeah! They havent just reduced the colour like someone has said lol
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#7 BoloTheGreat
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Those are actually rather significant! Bravo Blizzard
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#8 horrowhip
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Yeah. They mentioned it in a brief little FAQ last week.

I see lots of questions about timelines. Here is a little FAQ.

  • Why hasn't Blizzard released the Beta? or WTF have they been working on, I played it at Blizzcon last year and I thought it was done! Solo campaign is under heavy construction as is Battlenet. When these things have enough work done that we know when our release date is going to be with strong confidence we will announce the Beta. Unless something crazy happens, the Beta is going to happen this year.
  • Why don't you just give us your target dates if you don't know the final date? We promise, we won't get mad if Blizzard misses target dates. Let's be realistic. Our target dates are not something we hit more than half the time. Putting those out there would be pretty close to lying to the fans. We are not going to do that. We want to be able to give good info, not info that we know is suspect. We'll give target dates when we think it is very likely that we will hit them.
  • When can we have the next Battle Report?We were waiting on getting some improved graphics in (some of the new stuff looked REALLY rough). That was finished last week and we are now playing and looking for a good game. Once we get that game the process is reasonably quick to get it out. Once we go Beta, you guys can do these and put them up. When that happens I'm sure there will be a ton of them and I'm sure the quality of the games played and the announcing will go way up.
  • I notice that you haven't actually given us any dates.... Yeah. Sorry. We don't want to lie about the Beta, and we don't even want to lie about the next Battle Report. When we know a date (for anything) for certain, we'll let you know.


Hang in there. We're in the final stretch.

Blizzard

Paul Sams, the COO of Blizzard also mentioned they they will be releasing a frontline title every year for the foreseeable future.

What that implies is Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty(2009), Diablo 3(2010), Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm(2010/2011), Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void(2011/2012), and their next MMO(????).

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#9 MKLOL
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The Zerg Drone just looks: WOW!!!
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#10 Philmon
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They look nice, but did they have to loose the bright colors?
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#11 shadow_hosi
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i need new pants now :(
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#12 Master-Thief-09
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Shiny. Looks good.
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#13 Ncsoftlover
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that's good, we know StarCraft 2 won't be challenging hardcore hardware, but we don't want it to be too outdated in graphics either, plus Blizzard always has great artstyle.
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#14 Ncsoftlover
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Yeah. They mentioned it in a brief little FAQ last week.

[QUOTE="Blizzard"]

I see lots of questions about timelines. Here is a little FAQ.

  • Why hasn't Blizzard released the Beta? or WTF have they been working on, I played it at Blizzcon last year and I thought it was done! Solo campaign is under heavy construction as is Battlenet. When these things have enough work done that we know when our release date is going to be with strong confidence we will announce the Beta. Unless something crazy happens, the Beta is going to happen this year.
  • Why don't you just give us your target dates if you don't know the final date? We promise, we won't get mad if Blizzard misses target dates. Let's be realistic. Our target dates are not something we hit more than half the time. Putting those out there would be pretty close to lying to the fans. We are not going to do that. We want to be able to give good info, not info that we know is suspect. We'll give target dates when we think it is very likely that we will hit them.
  • When can we have the next Battle Report?We were waiting on getting some improved graphics in (some of the new stuff looked REALLY rough). That was finished last week and we are now playing and looking for a good game. Once we get that game the process is reasonably quick to get it out. Once we go Beta, you guys can do these and put them up. When that happens I'm sure there will be a ton of them and I'm sure the quality of the games played and the announcing will go way up.
  • I notice that you haven't actually given us any dates.... Yeah. Sorry. We don't want to lie about the Beta, and we don't even want to lie about the next Battle Report. When we know a date (for anything) for certain, we'll let you know.


Hang in there. We're in the final stretch.

horrowhip

Paul Sams, the COO of Blizzard also mentioned they they will be releasing a frontline title every year for the foreseeable future.

What that implies is Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty(2009), Diablo 3(2010), Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm(2010/2011), Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void(2011/2012), and their next MMO(????).

by date their next MMO will certainly be "next gen".

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#15 TheOwnerOner
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this would also mean system req will also greatly increase.....
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#16 dgsag
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this would also mean system req will also greatly increase.....TheOwnerOner
It was a quick texture job. They can make a game better looking without actually increasing the demand on a system.
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#17 Teuf_
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this would also mean system req will also greatly increase.....TheOwnerOner


It looks to me like they were just replacing placeholder models and textures, which would mean this was already budgeted into their target specs.
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#18 Gamingcucumber
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Yeah it looks good. But they look like plastic soldiers compared to the first installment.
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#19 flazzle
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I'll never be good enough to be competetive at this game. Can't wait until it comes out though
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#20 swazidoughman
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They look nice, but did they have to loose the bright colors?Philmon

Well if you have an Nvidia GPU you can just increase the color saturation :D

Don't know if the ATI control panel has it, haven't used ATI for a while now.

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#21 aaronmullan
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Looks pretty brilliant, I'm getting quite excited for the first part :D
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#22 404-not-found
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It looks more organic, fitting the zerg feel.
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#23 hopesfall2own
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I doubt it'll be that noticeable when you're actually playing it unless your screen's resolution is like 10".
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#24 swazidoughman
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I doubt it'll be that noticeable when you're actually playing it unless your screen's resolution is like 10". hopesfall2own

So very wrong.

The models look a lot better.

And the difference should be most noticeable when a model is near lights.

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#25 zassimick  Moderator
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What's a zerg? :?

:P

I think I'll try out Starcraft tonight. Put it on my mac a few weeks ago and haven't had the opportunity to play it yet. Should probably see if I like it or not.

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#26 agentfred
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I doubt it'll be that noticeable when you're actually playing it unless your screen's resolution is like 10". hopesfall2own
Really? I thought they looked a lot better. But hey, I'll take any upgrade I can get.
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]I doubt it'll be that noticeable when you're actually playing it unless your screen's resolution is like 10". agentfred
Really? I thought they looked a lot better. But hey, I'll take any upgrade I can get.

didn't say it wasn't an upgrade, just said you probably won't notice when you're actually playing it unless you have a small resolution monitor..
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#28 agentfred
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]Really? I thought they looked a lot better. But hey, I'll take any upgrade I can get.hopesfall2own
didn't say it wasn't an upgrade, just said you probably won't notice when you're actually playing it unless you have a small resolution monitor..

And I didn't say you did. :P

But seriously, when you look at the full resolution comparison, it's pretty clear that the upgrades are actually quite significant.

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#29 rolo107
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It looks like they went from more cartoony World of Warcraft styled visuals, to more traditional Starcraft visuals with much more detail to me.
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#30 Mehdi1984
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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]I doubt it'll be that noticeable when you're actually playing it unless your screen's resolution is like 10". hopesfall2own
Really? I thought they looked a lot better. But hey, I'll take any upgrade I can get.

didn't say it wasn't an upgrade, just said you probably won't notice when you're actually playing it unless you have a small resolution monitor..

That doesn't make any sense. The more resolution you have, the more detail you see. You are stating the opposite.
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#31 pretzelmeister
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Yay! The character models look much better, as well as more realistic. Before it looked much more cartoony like the Warcraft universe, which doesn't exactly fit the theme of StarCraft. However, we should probably wait until we see it ingame before we make further judgement.

Now I wonder if Diablo III is going to get the realistic treatment as well...

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#32 foxhound_fox
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And that does nothing to remedy the 3-part game everyone is going to have to buy to enjoy it.
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#33 MrDziekuje
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Man, I can't wait for these games. :)
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#34 hopesfall2own
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="agentfred"] Really? I thought they looked a lot better. But hey, I'll take any upgrade I can get.Mehdi1984
didn't say it wasn't an upgrade, just said you probably won't notice when you're actually playing it unless you have a small resolution monitor..

That doesn't make any sense. The more resolution you have, the more detail you see. You are stating the opposite.

the higher the resolution, the more zoomed out it is, so when talking about an RTS, you'll see more units and less detail. You were stating the opposite.
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#35 iam2green
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that looks good. i wounder how this game will play. i never played a starcraft game or a RTS i'm not a big fan of them.
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[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"] didn't say it wasn't an upgrade, just said you probably won't notice when you're actually playing it unless you have a small resolution monitor..hopesfall2own
That doesn't make any sense. The more resolution you have, the more detail you see. You are stating the opposite.

the higher the resolution, the more zoomed out it is, so when talking about an RTS, you'll see more units and less detail. You were stating the opposite.

Solution: zoom in a bit more;)

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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"] That doesn't make any sense. The more resolution you have, the more detail you see. You are stating the opposite.swazidoughman

the higher the resolution, the more zoomed out it is, so when talking about an RTS, you'll see more units and less detail. You were stating the opposite.

Solution: zoom in a bit more;)

you won't be able to play as well though :) thus proving my first post was truth :?
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#38 MrDziekuje
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i never played a starcraft game or a RTS i'm not a big fan of them.iam2green

This is silly.

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#39 -DrRobotnik-
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Um yeah, i dont like the artstyle. Seems as though Blizzard are failing to differentiate between the warcraft universe and the starcraft universe.
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#40 Mehdi1984
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[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"] didn't say it wasn't an upgrade, just said you probably won't notice when you're actually playing it unless you have a small resolution monitor..hopesfall2own
That doesn't make any sense. The more resolution you have, the more detail you see. You are stating the opposite.

the higher the resolution, the more zoomed out it is, so when talking about an RTS, you'll see more units and less detail. You were stating the opposite.

Eh... that's assuming your putting your resolution higher then native resolutions. The actual play area doesn't change with higher or lower resolutions. What does change is the definition of the graphics.
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#41 MrDziekuje
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Um yeah, i dont like the artstyle. Seems as though Blizzard are failing to differentiate between the warcraft universe and the starcraft universe.-DrRobotnik-

Actually that's exactly what they just did. The original models were much less realistic. To be honest, I think they look a lot like WoW-style models. Starcraft has a very realistic style, while Warcraft has more of a fairy-tale look.

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#42 swazidoughman
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Um yeah, i dont like the artstyle. Seems as though Blizzard are failing to differentiate between the warcraft universe and the starcraft universe.-DrRobotnik-

They did the same thing with Diablo 3.

I personally like the artstyle, but if they start using it for every peice of software they make then it will get boring.

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#43 AdrianWerner
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I doubt it'll be that noticeable when you're actually playing . hopesfall2own
nah, their color and tone changed drasticaly, the shining chitin body will also be visible from afar
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#44 dragonpuppy
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I'm likeing the overlord and hydra more and more. Please let this game be out this year.
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#45 LightReflection
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Starcraft II and Diablo III are pretty much the only reason why I'm building a new PC soon. I can't wait.
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#46 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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Wow... looks great!

That's what they should do with World of Warcraft... they should AT LEAST double the poly's.

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#47 AAllxxjjnn
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I love the art style, but i've never really been into RTS games...not really into being a leader...i dunno, maybe i should give this one a try?
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#48 LightReflection
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I'd say WoW has just about run its course. (despite its still huge userbase) Blizzard are working on another MMO though.
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]this would also mean system req will also greatly increase.....dgsag
It was a quick texture job. They can make a game better looking without actually increasing the demand on a system.

Yep, Stardock did the same with the 2nd expansion (or was it the first?) for Galactic Civilization 2. Despite looking much much better, it used less memory than before. :)
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#50 daqua_99
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I'd say great graphical update ... now I just hope my laptop can run it ...