Steambox has made Xbone irrelevant

A $500 gaming device with the versatility of a home computer and the graphical grunt of an AMD card with 2.7 TFlops in performance.

Thank god SONY has Naughty Dog and the best first party studios in the world. The PS4 will maintain its relevance due to its awesome exclusives.

The Xbone doesn't have a single AAA studio now. Halo and Forza are irrelevant. Also the Xbone suffers from lots of the same problems as last-gen consoles like long loading times, slow downloading times, long install times, buggy OS, and more. Why buy an Xbone. Steambox seems like a better alternative.

As long as MS has Halo, nope. You saying halo and forza are irrelevant is just stupid.

Let me just ask the average console gamer if they know what a steambox is.

Not banned yet? Hopefully soon.

Can I play Halo without an Xbox? No, then it seems very relevant still. Also, I'm interested in the user experience on these Steam Machines (love how people can't even get the name right, despite being on the hype train). Is it as plug and play as a console, b/c that is part of the console experience.

lolno.. Streambox will be insignificant to the console market.

Flopbox

I will keep my eye on the steam machines.... I was going to get a Xone but I am losing interest in it....

I suppose Valve has an advantage in that the "Steambox Console" is actually a piece of software. If they can get consumers past Linux, we'll have a market where presets (consoles) live in harmony with manual tweaking.

In most circumstances, I'd say that it'd be impossible because the gaming industry is mostly held hostage by DirectX, but Valve has a history of making the right choices.

Ironically, Bill Gates once stood in the same kind of position with IBM.

*looks at avatar*

Okay.

So anyway, the same can be said of the PS4. The Steamboxes are going to wreck shit. Gamers will have to decide whether the exclusives offered by either console are going to justify the purchase of their respective hardware solutions. Will an inferior, 720p version of Titanfall, QB, another 343 Halo, and your annual installment of Forza be enough of a reason to drop $500 on a One? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how much you love those franchises. Likewise, will Uncharted, KZ, The Order, Infamous, GoW and others be enough of a reason to drop $400 on a PS4?

Because by all accounts, these Steamboxes will be affordable and will offer the best gaming experience for ~$500 you can get. 1080p/60 with better AA and effects settings than the One or PS4 will ever be capable of. Why would anyone buy the PS4/One version of a multiplat when they can have such better experience on a Steambox? Oh and with free multiplayer, no mp3/DLNA restrictions, any controller, etc.

Maybe this means that the PC is going to get better ports this time around.

This thread is dumb and untrue on almost every level.

If anything it will impact more on the PS4 market as it's only focus is games using a controller, Xbox One is a much more versatile and innovative console in games and services it offers now and in the future. As for exclusives if the launch and 2014 is anything to go by Xbox One will have its on top exclusives to offer. Titanfall and Quantum Break to name two.

why would you get a steambox when it can only play games that have linux support? you are better off building your own pc, or your windows steambox, if you want to use it as a regular console for your tv.

$100 more for that win 8/7 You sure can do other things. But you can bet it will just have steam os on it

Exactly. Fail thread.

I heard at the local 5 and dime that that everybody in town is getting a Steambox.

Omg Thank you. I didn't know what price would have been. I have now made a decision. I will be a ps4/steambox owner. Microsoft, you almost ripped me off LOL

Steambox will be the irrelevant device, anyone who is serious about PC gaming is going to build there own gaming rig.

Right. Or ask a consumer if they know what Steam Big Picture is? They'll think its a Disney movie about a choo choo train. Steambox may grow into a decent money maker, but its probably going to cannibalize PC sales for a while before it affects console sales (if ever).

Both Steambox and the X1 will fail, mark my words

But will it have games like Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall? I know Titanfall was going to PC but I'm guessing it'll be Window's only, and SteamBox uses Linux.

C'mon stop. It's kinda obvious Microsoft got nothing but flops for 3rd party exclusives.

good price for people that want to get into pc gaming

Valve is not making a SteamBox. They are making a Linux distro called "SteamOS" that will run on third-party hardware.

SteamOS will not run existing Steam games.In fact, SteamOS will not run any existing or new Windows games.

This initiative is dead before it even gets off the ground. The tools to create AAA console games for Linux do not exist. Building such tools is an awesome task and would cost billions. Even after that, virtually no games would be released for SteamOS for several years.

Valve is not even willing to port most of theirn own games to SteamOS. SteamOS will only run a handful of existing Valve games, the ones already ported to Linux.

I think Nvidia Sheild shows more promise and that's pretty dead too.

@XboxFails: hypocrisy at its finest. steambox apparently make xbone and pos4 irrelevant. funny u mention games for sony yet they hav the worst games currently

We haven't seen what the SteamOS can do yet. Don't being such a Debby downer.

Your threads are awful.

Yeah none of this is true.

I don't have to see, I know what it can do, I've see the development kits. And what it can do is "not much". The tools simply aren't there to make AAA games competitive with PC/Xbox/Playstation. Assuming Valve started making them now, it would be years before they become available and Valve would have to give developers billions to use them. Nobody is going to spend $50 million USD of their own money on game that probably won't sell.

That last line is critical. Microsoft and Sony have both lost $15 billion+ on their consoles, largely by subsidizing hardware and paying developers to make games. Valve simply doesn't have that money to compete, even if they're willing to spend it, and they are clearly not willing to spend it. They went the "SteamOS" route because they weren't willing to build their own hardware.

SteamOS clearly isn't a serious effort. Nobody questioned the Microsoft/Xbox entry into the market because they clearly were serious and could compete with Sony and Nintendo. Apple, Samsung, or Google could also play in this space (assuming they put the money into it).but Valve just doesn't have the cash.

lol, steambox.

every person this is aimed at is scratching their heads and wondering why buy that over plonking down a couple hundred more bucks building exactly what you want and having windows plus whatever freebies happen to be coming with parts from newegg.

is it a cool little thing?

yeah sure, but i think they are not really understanding their own market.

If Halo is irrelevant then none of the halo games would have solf millions when they released. And Tc I suggest that you stop creating these dumb threads.

Talking about flops,you sure you're not pointing Sony?

there are no development kits for linux, you havent seen anything. Linux does not take million of dollers to develop for. It uses OpenGL for rendering rather than DirectX and a slightly different file system. The idea that it takes millions more to develop for Linux is laughably funny.

The new Metro game got ported to linux already, it works well.. Do you really think they spent millions on porting it.

This is so stupid it just comes across as funny.

That all you got to someone who makes a valid point. Calling Titanfall that has won more awards than all the PS4 games put together.

C'mon on man grow up.

Dat Forza, though.

Flop flop floppity flop.

@XboxFails: The first thing the Steambox needs to do is break even, and not fail. Your average console gamer has no idea what the hell it even is. I visit Gamespot every day and I barely know what it is myself. It seems more of a pure gaming machine and more akin to the PS4, so if anything it's the PS4 that would be threatened by this, but that's just complete conjecture on my part, and honestly I don't think the PS4 or the X1 have anything to fear from the Steambox. The console market is ruthless if you think it's going to be that easy for another player to go in and just destroy the competition, you're dreaming in colors.

You guys explain and explain but in reality, he doesn't care lol.

Yea because Valve clearly have no idea what they doing.

Okay.

Please do tell me just who is going to buy it, hermits who already have their PCs or console gamers who frankly don't give a damn about PC gaming?

People please, number one we know this thread is going to be locked soon so it's irrelevant to even argue with this guy and think you're going to have a good debate about gamin when clearly he is one side. He's name says it all. Number two he's just posting crap like this just to draw a response.

Intel, AMD and NVIDIA are investing low level tools into it.

For AMD GCN, the debugger and performance counters are built into Mantle i.e. as stated in APU13 summit, Mantle is "designed by developers for developers" which is a pun on Sony's designed by gamers for gamers. Btw, AMD Mantle is closer to PS4's graphics API than to DirectX11.2.

AMD, Intel and NVIDIA wants a games console clone market i.e. MS is not being serious on games console clone market.

On PC hardware side, the keynote speakers for Valve's dev days summit are AMD, Intel and nVidia. You got the big 3 PC hardware source vendors supporting Valve's SteamOS.

PS4 is irrelevant too. There's no games worth buying the thing for.

if it has made the x1 irrelevant, then it has made the PS4 irrelevant also... stupid thread is stupid.

Consoles in general have just made them irrelevant with their ineptitude to establish any sense of necessary novelty.