Stupid SW arguments that go unnoticed.

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#1 Phaze-Two
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Example:

SWfanboy1: GameX 2 is gonna be awesome! GOTY contender for sure! I can't wait!

SWfanboy2: This game will be terrible, consoleX = owned! Shovelware FTL lol!

SWfanboy1: Oooh Look, I'm SWarrior2! I love going on internet message boards and complaining about games I've never played!

I think most people on SW would probably side with SWfanboy1. Right? But why? Both of them are speculating on games they haven't played. They're both equally silly, which I think is okay. I think we should be free to have our own silly opinions, I'm all for it. But why is the negative one always the unreasonable one, and the positive one is accepted? Here's why: because some of us here on SW (won't say who) are insecure about their beloved platform, whatever it may be. Let's just be not so hippocritical guys, k?

Let's extrapolate on that discussion a bit more:

SWfanboy1: GameX 2 is gonna be awesome! GOTY contender for sure! I can't wait!

SWfanboy2: This game will be terrible, consoleX = owned! Shovelware FTL lol!

SWfanboy1: Oooh Look, I'm SWarrior2! I love going on internet message boards and complaining about games I've never played!

SWfanboy3: This is a sequel to a game that sucked. GOTY? u crazy?

SWfanboy1: Stating your opinion as fact = fail.

Again, most people on SW would side with SWfanboy1. How dare he state his opinion as fact? But wait a second... isn't saying something "sucks" an opinion statement by nature? No? Well if you think no, then here's a challenge: think of a situation where saying something "sucks" is a fact. An actual evidince based fact. Even someone saying "Big Rig sucks" that's not even a fact. And no I don't mean the literal version of "sucks", pervs. So when someone says something sucks, lets just assume he's not confusing games with vacuum cleaners, k?

What are some other dumb yet accepted arguments you've noticed?

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#3 Phaze-Two
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Here are the type of people who go to system wars. There are the fanboys who just play games and have preferences, they are still pretty immature and are defnsive in terms of games they like. there are the trolls who abuse and take advantage of people. And then there are the people who believe they are better than everything else and think that stupid sw arguements that go unnoticed are about as stupid as this topic. System wars isn't the most logical place but, this overzealous nonsense about not prefering some games because that would make you a fanboy is a complete and utter shock. It is like you are pretending to be a non fanboy to be cool and awesome. Fnanboys are dumb and children.

nhh18

nice oversimplified response that adds nothing to the discussion! thumbs up! that also makes less sense, now that you edited it!

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#4 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

Here are the type of people who go to system wars. There are the fanboys who just play games and have preferences, they are still pretty immature and are defnsive in terms of games they like. there are the trolls who abuse and take advantage of people. And then there are the people who believe they are better than everything else and think that stupid sw arguements that go unnoticed are about as stupid as this topic. System wars isn't the most logical place but, this overzealous nonsense about not prefering some games because that would make you a fanboy is a complete and utter shock. It is like you are pretending to be a non fanboy to be cool and awesome. Fnanboys and preferences are simple nature.

Phaze-Two

nice oversimplified response that adds nothing to the discussion! thumbs up!

Well. I am not one who has a meltdown about fanboys on system wars.

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#5 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

Here are the type of people who go to system wars. There are the fanboys who just play games and have preferences, they are still pretty immature and are defnsive in terms of games they like. there are the trolls who abuse and take advantage of people. And then there are the people who believe they are better than everything else and think that stupid sw arguements that go unnoticed are about as stupid as this topic. System wars isn't the most logical place but, this overzealous nonsense about not prefering some games because that would make you a fanboy is a complete and utter shock. It is like you are pretending to be a non fanboy to be cool and awesome. Fnanboys and preferences are simple nature.

nhh18

nice oversimplified response that adds nothing to the discussion! thumbs up!

Well. I am not one who has a meltdown about fanboys on system wars.

Oh that's good to hear! I'm truly very happy for you.

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#6 Espada12
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Using piracy as a con on the PC platform. I didn't realise most of SW worked in the gaming industry to be affected by such a thing.

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#7 Phaze-Two
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Using piracy as a con on the PC platform. I didn't realise most of SW worked in the gaming industry to be affected by such a thing.

Espada12

I actually really like this one. pirates kick ass.

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#8 GreenGoblin2099
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If there's an argument about "x" topic, it means it didn't go unnoticed :roll:

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#9 nofriekinlemons
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

nice oversimplified response that adds nothing to the discussion! thumbs up!

Phaze-Two

Well. I am not one who has a meltdown about fanboys on system wars.

Oh that's good to hear! I'm truly very happy for you.

FIGHT, FIGHT,FIGHT!!!:P

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#10 lowe0
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"Anyone who doesn't like %GAME% must not have played it."
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#11 Phaze-Two
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"Anyone who doesn't like %GAME% must not have played it."lowe0

I like this one alot, too,

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#12 tomarlyn
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'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'
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#13 Phaze-Two
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If there's an argument about "x" topic, it means it didn't go unnoticed :roll:

GreenGoblin2099

very perceptive there, chief.

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#14 ActicEdge
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'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'tomarlyn

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

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#15 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'ActicEdge

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

Mostly used in context of Crysis.
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#16 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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"Anyone who doesn't like %GAME% must not have played it."lowe0
I have to agree with this one, especially in that GOW3 vs Bayonetta thread.
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#17 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'ActicEdge

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

That is usually when Crysis enters the building.
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#18 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'ActicEdge

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

I think the dumb argument that (kind of) relates to that is the common "gameplay>graphics" response. As if good graphics and good gameplay were mutually exclusive in relation to a games overall quality.

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'ActicEdge

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

It's mostly used against crysis, but they don't say it like that. It's basically "all that game has is graphics!!!!"

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#20 OreoMilkshake
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"Console graphics king." "You literally have to dig through shovelware" "Hardcore/casual games" (I don't believe inanimate objects can be either)
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#21 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'ActicEdge

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

Sheep use it, hardly as often as before though which was a lot. Stopped about the time SMG came out. Also whenever Crysis is mentioned. The graphics are so amazing its the biggest thing to talk about, but doesn't mean it has bad gameplay or that Crytek only cared about ''teh grafix''.
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#22 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'tomarlyn

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

Sheep use it, hardly as often as before though which was a lot. Stopped about the time SMG came out. Also whenever Crysis is mentioned. The graphics are so amazing its the biggest thing to talk about, but doesn't mean it has bad gameplay or that Crytek only cared about ''teh grafix''.

I forgot sheep used to say that. They also said if any game was on the Wii it already had better gameplay due to motion controls. Glad they stopped doing that.
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#23 Phaze-Two
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"Console graphics king." "You literally have to dig through shovelware" "Hardcore/casual games" (I don't believe inanimate objects can be either)OreoMilkshake

likin it

ummmm haven't heard that one.

i do also not think games are inherently hardcore or casual, but when people say that i always thought they were saying games targeted to hardcore and casual demographics.

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#24 Rockman999
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"Anyone who doesn't like %GAME% must not have played it."lowe0
Or "anyone who dislike COD MW 2 only do so because they suck at it.". :lol:
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#25 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

Ragnarok1051

Sheep use it, hardly as often as before though which was a lot. Stopped about the time SMG came out. Also whenever Crysis is mentioned. The graphics are so amazing its the biggest thing to talk about, but doesn't mean it has bad gameplay or that Crytek only cared about ''teh grafix''.

I forgot sheep used to say that. They also said if any game was on the Wii it already had better gameplay due to motion controls. Glad they stopped doing that.

Ironically I was one of them at the start of this gen, was even among the noble clan that claimed Red Steel would be the best FPS ever. Experience proved me wrong. MP3 and Resi 4 are great examples of good games with good controls, but they're very few and even farther between. You'd think Nintendo might license out the Metroid Prime 3 engine now Prime is done with.

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#26 gamebreakerz__
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Whats worse than fanboys? People who come to SW to complain about fanboys.
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#27 mD-
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Fanboys IRL are far worse than the ones on these boards because they aren't only annoyng, but they are extremely ignorant about anything gaming.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'Espada12

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

It's mostly used against crysis, but they don't say it like that. It's basically "all that game has is graphics!!!!"

Usually that's console players that bring that up. lol
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#29 Sandvichman
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''There is only brown shooters on the HD twins''

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#30 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]"Console graphics king." )

Why? :? 360 and Ps3 are the main competitors here, and PC has an unfair advantage considering the mods and ever improving hardware.
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#31 killerfist
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''There is only brown shooters on the HD twins''

Sandvichman
Yeah, this is not true. It's brown and grey.
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#32 Barbariser
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All of them.

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#33 beekayjay
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I can't stand hypocrites who play the "proof" card....and turn around and offer nothing but opinions in their own posts.
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#34 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]"Console graphics king." )

Why? :? 360 and Ps3 are the main competitors here, and PC has an unfair advantage considering the mods and ever improving hardware.

Fighting for 2nd place is grand, isn't it? :P
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'tomarlyn

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

Sheep use it, hardly as often as before though which was a lot. Stopped about the time SMG came out. Also whenever Crysis is mentioned. The graphics are so amazing its the biggest thing to talk about, but doesn't mean it has bad gameplay or that Crytek only cared about ''teh grafix''.

That generalization actually works in most cases because most games, even on HD consoles, which have pretty graphics, are shallow in gameplay. It's like saying Wii only has shovelware. For me at least, after playing the top tier games on Wii and going back to regular controler, only a few games stand out on the HD consoles gameplay wise, which actually proves the fact that both controler methods should be used depending on the game^_^

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#36 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]"Console graphics king." )

Why? :? 360 and Ps3 are the main competitors here, and PC has an unfair advantage considering the mods and ever improving hardware.

Fighting for 2nd place is grand, isn't it? :P

Or you could say first place among the consoles. Either way, I don't see the end of the console graphics competition coming any time soon. :P
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#37 InsaneBasura
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Everything. All the time.
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#38 NoobisMaxcimus
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]'if a game or console has good graphics then its gameplay is bad'ActicEdge

:? Cant say I've ever heard that one.

Uh yeah you have. It's usually one of the dumber sheep arguments.

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#39 SaltyMeatballs
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I agree 100%. I have brought it up many times. Double standards when praising a game.
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#40 Sp4rtan_3
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Hermits "CoD didn't bend over backwards for us this time around so we have the right to steal and pirate it" I hate CoD and what it means for the game industry but there is no reason ever to steal a game.
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#41 Ninja-Hippo
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There's nothing wrong with calling a game you're looking forward to as a GOTY contender if you ask me. Harmless fun, is all.
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#42 WasntAvailable
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Using piracy as a con on the PC platform. I didn't realise most of SW worked in the gaming industry to be affected by such a thing.

Espada12

I think it's more to do with developers dropping their support for the platform, though in reality that isn't down to piracy. It's probably that the publishers are looking for anything to blame for poor sales but themselves or their developers and are looking for a scapegoat. That self denial will probably harm them even more than they realise, and eventually they wont have anyone to blame but themselves.

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#43 coltsfan4ever
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One million sales is not that big of a deal. Especially if the game is an exclusive like Uncharted,Alan Wake,etc... Im sorry but any game that sales a million copies is a success imo.

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#44 jg4xchamp
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"What makes a good game? Story" That one takes the cake for my personal taste. Graphics threads, forza vs GT, and so many other topics are stupid, but this one is just infinantly stupid.
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#45 MizFitAwesome
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My fav one 'Can {exclusive console 1p} run on competitors console. How the heck would anyone know since the game is exclusive to one system?

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#46 SaltyMeatballs
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Haha, I always get a good laugh when there's a poll about this and people pick Story. Really, go read a book, the best stories are there.
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#47 rolo107
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Using piracy as a con on the PC platform. I didn't realise most of SW worked in the gaming industry to be affected by such a thing.

Espada12
How can you say that? Everyone is affected by piracy.
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#48 ShadowriverUB
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It's all about hate people... it's all about hate

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#49 Phaze-Two
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There's nothing wrong with calling a game you're looking forward to as a GOTY contender if you ask me. Harmless fun, is all. Ninja-Hippo

I agree, and at the same time there is nothing wrong with saying it looks like it sucks too.

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#50 Phaze-Two
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My fav one 'Can {exclusive console 1p} run on competitors console. How the heck would anyone know since the game is exclusive to one system?

MizFitAwesome

yeah really. and then they quote some remark that a PR guy says as proof. lol