Super Mario Galaxy seems to be a Flop(IMO)

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#1 Tamarind_Face
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From the trailers I have watched, it seems like 90% of the game is Flying from 1 planet to another, And in each planet the only thing you could do is collect coins and  or kill some enemies. This flying scenes remind me of Wind Waker when you sail your boat from one island to another.Seems its gonna be repetetive and tedious. And yes SMG does look good but Dewy's adventure looks better.
Basically SMG is a Dot to Dot game:

Simple and Easy.
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#2 ithilgore2006
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One trailer showed a lot of planet hopping. And that was because it was a trailer intended to show off the planet hopping. Watch some more trailers, first.
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#3 Son_of_Some
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Wow. I haven't seen this much denial and delusion in my life.

You skipped the part where Mario was on the surface of that Sun? That big lava world? That was not planethopping. Besides, there were bigger worlds in it.

And that diving secuence, that wasn't planethopping, now was it?

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#4 -DarthVader-
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1. Its pushing the wii
2. We've seen what 20 minutes of gameplay
3. We've seen maybe one boss battle



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#5 rykaziel
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.
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#6 Secretidentity
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Wow. I haven't seen this much denial and delusion in my life.

You skipped the part where Mario was on the surface of that Sun? That big lava world? That was not planethopping. Besides, there were bigger worlds in it.

And that diving secuence, that wasn't planethopping, now was it?

Son_of_Some

Exactly...Plus the major new thing about this game is the planet hopping..Nintendo is trying to show this feature as much as possible..Its a galaxy..Not just a planet...

Plus, There are huge planets with atmospheres and skies of their own..

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#7 alcarazo9
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i hate it when fanboys post dumb stuff like that :?
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#8 Secretidentity
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel

LOL SMG had WAY more action and way more going on than LBP...

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#9 Kaze_no_Mirai
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel
Uninspired? Why does it seem uninspired? its a completely new take on Mario gameplay. It's full of inspiration
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#10 -The-G-Man-
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Yes, the Mario platformers have been declining.  This next one will be even worse than the last.

Oh, wait.

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Wow, you must have high standards. This game looks just as good as brawl.
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"]I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.Secretidentity

LOL SMG had WAY more action and way more going on than LBP...

Seriously LBP was a snooze fest.  SMG looks WAAAAAY more interesting. 

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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel
I call bs. LBP does look good though. But SMG uninspired and uninteresting? Pfft.
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#14 -The-G-Man-
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel

In all honesty, I got bored of watching the LBP trailer about a quarter of the way through.

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#15 Teh_Stevz
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel
I'm suprised from this comment. A 2D plaformer is more inspiring than an extention of a dimension on another level? It's new. But that's as far as the inspiration goes for me.
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#16 StealthSting
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel
I actually couldn't disagree more. I look at the videos of SMG and its levels have a far more of a touch of genius and variety then anything I have seen from LBP wich was very litle. Not to mention that both those games are nothing alike. To the TC TP floped you never really know its definitely possible.
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#17 deactivated-5d560a230ad3c
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The game looks fun, granted.

But, it doesn't look to be the end-all be-all, either.  The graphics are "meh"-inspiring and the soundtrack is Casio-line keyboard fare.

Really kinda makes me nauseous to think about what this game could have been on better hardware.

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#18 Redmoonxl2
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel


Because we all know previous Mario games have focused on the idea of gravity and planet hopping before, right? :roll:
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#19 Kaze_no_Mirai
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The game looks fun, granted.

But, it doesn't look to be the end-all be-all, either. The graphics are "meh"-inspiring and the soundtrack is Casio-line keyboard fare.

Really kinda makes me nauseous to think about what this game could have been on better hardware.

CubeJL
Music is always by Koji,and he explain why he sticks to midi and synth so it wouldnt matter if it was on better hardware. As for the graphics... they don't look "meh" sure they arent anywhere as good as Gears but for the Wii they really good. And what does "meh-inspiring" mean? That it inspires people to say "meh"? The graphics are way more than acceptable.
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The game looks fun, granted.

But, it doesn't look to be the end-all be-all, either. The graphics are "meh"-inspiring and the soundtrack is Casio-line keyboard fare.

Really kinda makes me nauseous to think about what this game could have been on better hardware.

CubeJL
Pretty much the same, only with lots more bloom and less bright colours.
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The game looks fun, granted.

But, it doesn't look to be the end-all be-all, either. The graphics are "meh"-inspiring and the soundtrack is Casio-line keyboard fare.

Really kinda makes me nauseous to think about what this game could have been on better hardware.

CubeJL
What if's are pointless why wish for something that was never going to happen? If it was on better hardware it wouldn't be this game. So why can't you be happy with this.. it looks like a great game...

What would this gen look like on the PS4... Let's always want more then we can have and never be happy with what we get... great way to go thought life.
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#22 Grodus5
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From the trailers I have watched, it seems like 90% of the game is Flying from 1 planet to another, And in each planet the only thing you could do is collect coins and  or kill some enemies. This flying scenes remind me of Wind Waker when you sail your boat from one island to another.Seems its gonna be repetetive and tedious. And yes SMG does look good but Dewy's adventure looks better.
Basically SMG is a Dot to Dot game:

Simple and Easy.
Tamarind_Face
It seems alot more interesting then the aiming and shoting of Halo.
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#23 StealthSting
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The game looks fun, granted.

But, it doesn't look to be the end-all be-all, either. The graphics are "meh"-inspiring and the soundtrack is Casio-line keyboard fare.

Really kinda makes me nauseous to think about what this game could have been on better hardware.

CubeJL
I actually don't relate at all to that. The first time you probably saw SMG you thought to yourself: Man wouldn't this be awsome with more powerfull hardware. I saw the last video and such would actually be the last thing in my mind. It looked more fun to me then 95% of the next gen games annouced.
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#24 deactivated-5d560a230ad3c
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[QUOTE="CubeJL"]

The game looks fun, granted.

But, it doesn't look to be the end-all be-all, either. The graphics are "meh"-inspiring and the soundtrack is Casio-line keyboard fare.

Really kinda makes me nauseous to think about what this game could have been on better hardware.

GundamGuy0

What if's are pointless why wish for something that was never going to happen? If it was on better hardware it wouldn't be this game. So why can't you be happy with this.. it looks like a great game...

What would this gen look like on the PS4... Let's always want more then we can have and never be happy with what we get... great way to go thought life.

Comparing the state of the Wii to that of wishing games could be on the PS4 is silly, don't you think?

Here, I am comparing the hardware of today with the hardware of today--the Wii vs the 360 / PS3 / PC.  How much better would the game look, sound, operate on better hardware?  One word--better.

Sue me for wishing that Nintendo had at least upheld the status quo.

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#25 Panzer_Zwei
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I'm no Mario fan, but to me it looks like the best Mario since Mario 64. Mario Sunshine was a let down for me.
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#26 deactivated-5d560a230ad3c
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[QUOTE="CubeJL"]

The game looks fun, granted.

But, it doesn't look to be the end-all be-all, either. The graphics are "meh"-inspiring and the soundtrack is Casio-line keyboard fare.

Really kinda makes me nauseous to think about what this game could have been on better hardware.

StealthSting

I actually don't relate at all to that. The first time you probably saw SMG you thought to yourself: Man wouldn't this be awsome with more powerfull hardware. I saw the last video and such would actually be the last thing in my mind. It looked more fun to me then 95% of the next gen games annouced.

It does look like a blast, I grant you that.

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#27 darcom1
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we need more game play trailers to cast a fair verdict
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"]I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.Kaze_no_Mirai
Uninspired? Why does it seem uninspired? its a completely new take on Mario gameplay. It's full of inspiration



It seems like it's uninspired because it's essentially Mario64 + gravity.  I still saw the butt-stomps, still saw getting shot out of a cannon, jumping on top of people, etc.  I can see the development team meeting now, "How can we build on Mario 64?"  Well there is your problem right there.  Instead of reinventing and innovating like Super Mario World to Mario 64, they simply added a little Zaz. 

LBP, I haven't seen those types of gameplay elements in a platformer before.  Spawning your own objects, using physics systems to get around obstacles, cooperatively using momentum and the very physical properties of you and your friends to get above things, I mean come on.  Plus, it's extremely fresh.  It's tough for me to get excited about Super Mario game # 1458.
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#29 -DarkestHour-
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Theres a lot more to the game then what was shown in the 10-15 minutes of footage released.
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GDC Trailer. Watch. Now. Amazing. Nuff. Said.
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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="rykaziel"]I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel
Uninspired? Why does it seem uninspired? its a completely new take on Mario gameplay. It's full of inspiration



It seems like it's uninspired because it's essentially Mario64 + gravity. I still saw the butt-stomps, still saw getting shot out of a cannon, jumping on top of people, etc. I can see the development team meeting now, "How can we build on Mario 64?" Well there is your problem right there. Instead of reinventing and innovating like Super Mario World to Mario 64, they simply added a little Zaz.

LBP, I haven't seen those types of gameplay elements in a platformer before. Spawning your own objects, using physics systems to get around obstacles, cooperatively using momentum and the very physical properties of you and your friends to get above things, I mean come on. Plus, it's extremely fresh. It's tough for me to get excited about Super Mario game # 1458.

There hasn't been many mario platformers. You know that already, so stop using that as a lame excuse.
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From the trailers I have watched, it seems like 90% of the game is Flying from 1 planet to another, And in each planet the only thing you could do is collect coins and or kill some enemies. This flying scenes remind me of Wind Waker when you sail your boat from one island to another.Seems its gonna be repetetive and tedious. And yes SMG does look good but Dewy's adventure looks better.
Basically SMG is a Dot to Dot game:

Simple and Easy.
Tamarind_Face

The trailer was shown to show that very thing... it was an idea from Mario 128 that Myamoto said that he is using in SMG, so... the trailer represented it... :roll:
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It seems like it's uninspired because it's essentially Mario64 + gravity. I still saw the butt-stomps, still saw getting shot out of a cannon, jumping on top of people, etc. I can see the development team meeting now, "How can we build on Mario 64?" Well there is your problem right there. Instead of reinventing and innovating like Super Mario World to Mario 64, they simply added a little Zaz.

LBP, I haven't seen those types of gameplay elements in a platformer before. Spawning your own objects, using physics systems to get around obstacles, cooperatively using momentum and the very physical properties of you and your friends to get above things, I mean come on. Plus, it's extremely fresh. It's tough for me to get excited about Super Mario game # 1458.rykaziel
I get confused with what you said. SMG isn't inspiring because it's Mario (A platformer) with an added dimention to play around with to a game which by no means looks absolutely stunning but relys on the same mechanic from when Mario was introduced with objects that have physics to get around levels? I think LBP is the game which adds less to such a genre than to SMG.
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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="rykaziel"]I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel
Uninspired? Why does it seem uninspired? its a completely new take on Mario gameplay. It's full of inspiration



It seems like it's uninspired because it's essentially Mario64 + gravity.  I still saw the butt-stomps, still saw getting shot out of a cannon, jumping on top of people, etc.  I can see the development team meeting now, "How can we build on Mario 64?"  Well there is your problem right there.  Instead of reinventing and innovating like Super Mario World to Mario 64, they simply added a little Zaz. 

LBP, I haven't seen those types of gameplay elements in a platformer before.  Spawning your own objects, using physics systems to get around obstacles, cooperatively using momentum and the very physical properties of you and your friends to get above things, I mean come on.  Plus, it's extremely fresh.  It's tough for me to get excited about Super Mario game # 1458.

Last gen there was one Mario platformer.  Ratchet and Clank had four (not counting the PSP game.)  Jak and Daxter had three.

Don't pretend Mario has millions of platformers.  There may be millions of spin-offs, but not platformers.

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[QUOTE="rykaziel"]It seems like it's uninspired because it's essentially Mario64 + gravity. I still saw the butt-stomps, still saw getting shot out of a cannon, jumping on top of people, etc. I can see the development team meeting now, "How can we build on Mario 64?" Well there is your problem right there. Instead of reinventing and innovating like Super Mario World to Mario 64, they simply added a little Zaz.

LBP, I haven't seen those types of gameplay elements in a platformer before. Spawning your own objects, using physics systems to get around obstacles, cooperatively using momentum and the very physical properties of you and your friends to get above things, I mean come on. Plus, it's extremely fresh. It's tough for me to get excited about Super Mario game # 1458.Teh_Stevz
I get confused with what you said. SMG isn't inspiring because it's Mario (A platformer) with an added dimention to play around with to a game which by no means looks absolutely stunning but relys on the same mechanic from when Mario was introduced with objects that have physics to get around levels? I think LBP is the game which adds less to such a genre than to SMG.


I agree... LBP looks insanely fresh... but its not very unique. It looks like all you will be doing in LBP is simple puzzles based on physics..... havn't we seen that already?

I do think that the SMG trailer was kind of dumb to the point that most of it was showing mario flying through space from a far away camera... this was not that will be used in the game because at some points I couldn't even see what was going on... and it also fit nicely into what he was saying in the Keynote...
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#36 Tamarind_Face
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Wow. I haven't seen this much denial and delusion in my life.

You skipped the part where Mario was on the surface of that Sun? That big lava world? That was not planethopping. Besides, there were bigger worlds in it.

And that diving secuence, that wasn't planethopping, now was it?

Son_of_Some
the majority of the game is hopping from plant to planet. We dont know if that Big lava world isnt consisted of many lava planets. We all know Every platformer has some kinda variety to it. SMG seems like it has the cliches in video game, the over used ice, water, fire stages...
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"]I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.-The-G-Man-

In all honesty, I got bored of watching the LBP trailer about a quarter of the way through.

my thought exactly.....aside from the neat physics...I really see nothing interesting about LBP
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From everything I've seen, this looks to be the best Mario since Mario 64.
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#39 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Son_of_Some"]

Wow. I haven't seen this much denial and delusion in my life.

You skipped the part where Mario was on the surface of that Sun? That big lava world? That was not planethopping. Besides, there were bigger worlds in it.

And that diving secuence, that wasn't planethopping, now was it?

Tamarind_Face
the majority of the game is hopping from plant to planet. We dont know if that Big lava world isnt consisted of many lava planets. We all know Every platformer has some kinda variety to it. SMG seems like it has the cliches in video game, the over used ice, water, fire stages...

uhh..........maybe because mario platforming games originally established those cliches?
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Have you played it yet?
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I got a lot more excited watching LBP than super mario galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy looks uninspired and uninteresting when compared to LittleBigPlanet.rykaziel

I agree.

IMO LBP is a whole generation ahead in terms of expanding what videogames are capable of. SMG is simply a pretty standard platformer with some Wiimote controls added in whereas LBP is an advanced game/world creation tool that looks very intuitive to use and would allow people to build far more complex and potentially entertaining game worlds that any thing seen so far in SMG.

It's like comparing and old school 2D shooting/platform game like Contra (or something like that) to a new 3D shooting game like Halo. One is so far ahead in terms of scope that regardless of how good the other was in it's day it simply can't touch the level of immersion and potential fun that comes from the complete freedom and advanced design that is offered game like Halo.

SMG looks old and rather uninspiring compared to the potential greatness of LBP...

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#42 rykaziel
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Last gen there was one Mario platformer. Ratchet and Clank had four (not counting the PSP game.) Jak and Daxter had three.

Don't pretend Mario has millions of platformers. There may be millions of spin-offs, but not platformers.

-The-G-Man-
I never said Mario has millions of platformers, but Mario, I think, is an incredibly overused franchise. Pllllllleeeease come up with somebody new. It's becoming very tiring. I know he is charming, and he is history, but Nintendo needs to create some new characters here.

By creating new characters, Nintendo can take risks in gaming without damaging their heralded franchises. Metroid Prime was risk, in bringing such a beloved character to 3d, and it paid off, but trying new things with new characters is something Nintendo has to do. LBP just looks to me, like much more fun.

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#43 blackpretttyboy
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i really hate mario so im going to bash . lbp has better grafix in one cloth block then smg has in the whole game
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#44 HeedleGlavin
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So we've probably seen a grand total of maybe 15 minutes of actual play time - and you've decided that 90% of the game is planet hopping.... I could only hope to be that observant one day.... :roll:
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#45 REVOLUTIONfreak
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I don't think you grasp the concept.  Just becaus they showed it that way in the trailer doesn't mean it plays that way, try watching gameplay footage from Gamespot and you'll see that.  You finish a puzzle on one planet, and then go to the next... until you eventually wind up on a planet with a boss (and some of the boss battles look incredibly creative).  The media loves it by the way.
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#46 machitocaliente
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trailer...  you are a genius...
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The media loves it by the way.REVOLUTIONfreak
Adolf Hitler was Time's Man of the Year in 1938, so I'm not exactly sure the media is something to go by.
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[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"] The media loves it by the way.rykaziel
Adolf Hitler was Time's Man of the Year in 1938, so I'm not exactly sure the media is something to go by.

thats so FUNNY *sarcasm*
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#49 fitzokoli
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

Last gen there was one Mario platformer. Ratchet and Clank had four (not counting the PSP game.) Jak and Daxter had three.

Don't pretend Mario has millions of platformers. There may be millions of spin-offs, but not platformers.

rykaziel
I never said Mario has millions of platformers, but Mario, I think, is an incredibly overused franchise. Pllllllleeeease come up with somebody new. It's becoming very tiring. I know he is charming, and he is history, but Nintendo needs to create some new characters here.

By creating new characters, Nintendo can take risks in gaming without damaging their heralded franchises. Metroid Prime was risk, in bringing such a beloved character to 3d, and it paid off, but trying new things with new characters is something Nintendo has to do. LBP just looks to me, like much more fun.

Nintendo has many many franchises and they create new ones...Pikmin was new and risky...Scored 8.9 and 9.2 here, pretty impressive..Animal crossing too is a new franchise..Nintendo has a lot of franchises to play around with thats why you see only 1 Mario platformer in like 4yrs...Mario is the star of the show..He made Nintendo- Nintendo..Telling them to throw away Mario is like telling Sega to leave sonic or something like that..Every Mario game is different too...

LBP looks very good graphically and has some nice features,but Mario Galaxy just looks way more fun than LBP...It has a variety of puzzles you can perform, it employs some nice gravity physics, theres alot more going on on the screen, you just have none stop action..Plus the graphics and art direction are just brilliant...Not only are they brilliant but they are done in a new dimension...I can honestly say i havent seen any game that looks like Mario Galaxy...Motion control is used quite impressively too for alot of puzzles and gameplay elements...Using the Wiimote to catapult from a sling shot, shaking it to do the spin attack and activate shooting stars, using it to gather star particles..There are just so many things that are new with this Mario, its amazing...

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#50 ArisShadows
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This thread is a floppidy flop flop.