Surprised Microsoft hasn't bought AMD.

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#1  Edited By Daniel_Su123
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Instead of Microsoft buying a gaming company, why not buy the source of success of the PS4? Buy AMD or at least 51% of the company.

If that happened, I expect a massive disruption in the console industry, AMD will probably loose it's X86 license, but Microsoft's Xbox will Survive since its games are in a VM, so XB could switch to ARM. However it seems like a collapse of Sony's ecosystem, since they no longer can use X86 or they are forced to go with Intel to keep BC but at the cost of a massive price increase of the PS

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#2 TryIt
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that would not be a good idea from a monopoly standpoint.

Like Bill Gates subtlely was trying to warn amazon....be careful about being too much

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MS could buy AMD to start bitcoin mining.

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#4 SolidGame_basic
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Why doesn't AMD buy Microsoft?

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given MS bed side realtionship with Intel I am thinking the lawmakers might rise and eyebrow to such a move

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I feel like the internet thinks it's really simple to just flat out buy a company, as if MS can just go on Amazon and purchase AMD with prime shipping

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@drlostrib said:

I feel like the internet thinks it's really simple to just flat out buy a company, as if MS can just go on Amazon and purchase AMD with prime shipping

You mean they can't just add them to their basket along with Nvidia and proceed to checkout?

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@SolidGame_basic: AMD value = $13bn, Microsoft value = $560bn.

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@tryit said:

that would not be a good idea from a monopoly standpoint.

Like Bill Gates subtlely was trying to warn amazon....be careful about being too much

How is it a monopoly? For Intel maybe, but not Microsoft, plus there are ARM PCs now with Windows 10 ARM, so technically there is now more competition.

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@daniel_su123 said:
@tryit said:

that would not be a good idea from a monopoly standpoint.

Like Bill Gates subtlely was trying to warn amazon....be careful about being too much

How is it a monopoly? For Intel maybe, but not Microsoft, plus there are ARM PCs now with Windows 10 ARM, so technically there is now more competition.

well that is a good point.

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@nfamouslegend said:

@SolidGame_basic: AMD value = $13bn, Microsoft value = $560bn.

AMD value = 11.8bn, Microsoft value = 729bn.

Your information is year out of date.

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@SolidGame_basic: you are joking right?

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ok a bit of perspective here.

the xbox is a blip to MSs revenue. its a nice to have. a pet project that helps their image. if MS got into financial trouble the xbox division would be one of the first to go as they double down on business to business services. they are not going to buy out AMD just for the childish reason of pulling the rug from under sony (and even then it wouldnt work). the xbox project is simply not worth that to them.

also if they actually did buy AMD they would open up an absolute crapstorm of a legal minefield. on the face of it AMD look like good value for money and im sure the likes of samsung have looked at it. but below the surface...NOOOOooooo noooooooo. bad idea. Note: not a dig at AMD themselves. they make some dam fine hardware.

finally do you think MS wants to go up against chipzilla? who the hell wants to go up against them? and nvidia? 2 very very tough nuts to crack.

does anyone really think that spending the billions needed to buy AMD, pay its debts, fund R&D (for the CPU and GPU), compete against intel AND nvidia AND deal with an absolute legal mess for years to come is worth it just to pull a fast one on sony over toys? Sony making that purchase i could somewhat understand maybe....maybe. they may try it to try and get a foothold in the CPU sector (though after the cell i think they have had enough of that). sony are a hardware company. but MS are a services company above all else. so why on gods earth would they buy a CPU design company?

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#14  Edited By Daniel_Su123
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@osan0 said:

ok a bit of perspective here.

the xbox is a blip to MSs revenue. its a nice to have. a pet project that helps their image. if MS got into financial trouble the xbox division would be one of the first to go as they double down on business to business services. they are not going to buy out AMD just for the childish reason of pulling the rug from under sony (and even then it wouldnt work). the xbox project is simply not worth that to them.

also if they actually did buy AMD they would open up an absolute crapstorm of a legal minefield. on the face of it AMD look like good value for money and im sure the likes of samsung have looked at it. but below the surface...NOOOOooooo noooooooo. bad idea. Note: not a dig at AMD themselves. they make some dam fine hardware.

finally do you think MS wants to go up against chipzilla? who the hell wants to go up against them? and nvidia? 2 very very tough nuts to crack.

does anyone really think that spending the billions needed to buy AMD, pay its debts, fund R&D (for the CPU and GPU), compete against intel AND nvidia AND deal with an absolute legal mess for years to come is worth it just to pull a fast one on sony over toys? Sony making that purchase i could somewhat understand maybe....maybe. they may try it to try and get a foothold in the CPU sector (though after the cell i think they have had enough of that). sony are a hardware company. but MS are a services company above all else. so why on gods earth would they buy a CPU design company?

I don't think you realise but MS and Sony use consoles to get people onto their services at a cheap and fixed price. But yes there is a potential for X86-64 to collapse and die off since Microsoft buying AMD will terminate both sides. However they only need to negotiate a new cross license deal. While it is dirty for MS to destroy Sony's ecosystem by loosing BC or driving up the cost to keep BC, it's a long term play in the future for MS.

It's possible that Intel will encourage the move since they can have exclusive X86 again, while having ARM PCs as the new competition for Intel.

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The legal issues from that would be so funny, i simply don't see it happening.

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Because they can't simply go out and buy any company.

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#17 PimpHand_Gamer
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Guess you don't realize that the x86 license is non transferable. Intel owns the license.

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#18 PCgameruk
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And how would M$ make its money buy selling less CPU's just to out do its competitor?