SW doesn't seem to get why MGS4 wins Graphics Award

You all seem to miss the point of this award. Crysis does have the best graphics but why did MGS4 win the award.

MGS4 has the best graphics because it has hours of beautiful cutscenes blended with a smooth perfect transition to gameplay.

Crysis does not have as much going around like MGS4, and that's what suprised GS and us gamers because we have never seen anything which does anything like that at all, it's clearly stunning, everyone can enjoy the graphics at the same level besides SD users also.

How many users here on SW or these forums can honestly play Crysis at even mid-settings with no framerate problems or glitches? I know because I play it in mid-high and play it pretty smooth, my friend has a custom computer that he has been putting together for a while and he can run it on MAX, and while it really does look great, it's not as suprising as a game that has amazing graphics and an artistic side to it.

It clearly deserves the reward. Same award goes for Super Mario Galaxy.

Does Crysis have this? NO

The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?MetroidPrimePwn

The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?MetroidPrimePwn

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?Eyezonmii

Bottomline is, Warhead should of won. MGS4 is overrated in the graphics department.

"MGS4 has the best graphics because it has hours of beautiful cutscenes blended with a smooth perfect transition to gameplay."

hahahaha, seriously this is GOLD!. Stop putting stupid excuses trying to justify MGS4 winning the award.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?Eyezonmii

Crysis Warhead is a stand alone expansion, basically a sequel. Sequels tend to be like their predecessors. That should not disqualify them from awards. The truth is, Crysis Warhead has the most advanced and demanding graphical effects of any game this year.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?Aljosa23

Bottomline is, Warhead should of won. MGS4 is overrated in the graphics department.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?Eyezonmii

They thought, *our PS3 fanboys >>>> PC fanboys and players, we can get away with this twisted ill fated logic because most people will like the result* haha it's so obvious though, they clearly didn't put enough thought into it.themyth01

If that's what they were thinking (and I doubt it is) then they messed up royally, because most PS3 enthusiasts agree that Crysis Warhead deserved it more.

"MGS4 has the best graphics because it has hours of beautiful cutscenes blended with a smooth perfect transition to gameplay."

hahahaha, seriously this is GOLD!. Stop putting stupid excuses trying to justify MGS4 winning the award.

Pinkyimp

You guys are really being brats about this :|

MGS4's visuals are ARGUABLY the best this gen. Not everyone may agree, but it's case is definitely JUSTIFIED.

The awards are over, quit crying. Spike TV gave best graphics to MGS4 as well... is something with them as well :|

Take the 'BIASED-goggles' off, please.

..and Merry Christmas

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

"MGS4 has the best graphics because it has hours of beautiful cutscenes blended with a smooth perfect transition to gameplay."

hahahaha, seriously this is GOLD!. Stop putting stupid excuses trying to justify MGS4 winning the award.

leadernator

You guys are really being brats about this :|

MGS4's visuals are ARGUABLY the best this gen. Not everyone may agree, but it's case is definitely JUSTIFIED.

The awards are over, quit crying. Spike TV gave best graphics to MGS4 as well... is something with them as well :|

Take the 'BIASED-goggles' off, please.

..and Merry Christmas

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

"MGS4 has the best graphics because it has hours of beautiful cutscenes blended with a smooth perfect transition to gameplay."

hahahaha, seriously this is GOLD!. Stop putting stupid excuses trying to justify MGS4 winning the award.

leadernator

You guys are really being brats about this :|

MGS4's visuals are ARGUABLY the best this gen. Not everyone may agree, but it's case is definitely JUSTIFIED.

The awards are over, quit crying. Spike TV gave best graphics to MGS4 as well... is something with them as well :|

Take the 'BIASED-goggles' off, please.

..and Merry Christmas

The award is for best technical graphics, not artistic graphics (like super mario galaxy was going for). The award is for the game that looks the best technically, as in which game has the best looking textures, the most advanced special effects, the best lighting, etc. And I can tell you MGS4 is not the best, not even on consoles. Have you seen the textures in MGS4? A lot of them look low res and washed out and I was watching my brother play it on a 50" HDTV. The only thing that impressed me were the character models, but even then those pale in comparison to the models used in Crysis. Crysis Warhead should have won. And it doest take a high end graphics card to run Crysis on high. You can buy one for $130 or less now. I dont know what GS was thinking. If the award was based on what game looks the best based on what platform they are on then GS should have said that. As far as I'm concerned though thats ont the case until proven otherwise.karasill

MGS4 is the undisputed BEST on consoles... don't even throw that card.

We all know MGS4 doesn't have the best textures out there, but for some reason you ignore many of the games technical high points. There are ALOT that happens on screen at once (at times), you have varying enemies of all different types and sizes (mechs mixed in with soldier PMCs and other smaller machines), character models look insane, the special effects are top knotch, LARGE environments, not to mention you're always playing in different environment settings. You got the desert warfare, jungle warfare, the streets of F'n LONDON, a naval type ship, heavy snow environments, etc. And yes, the high detail in cutscenes is EXACTLY what you get in gameplay, which explains the perfect transitions. Then you have an amazing MECH on MECH gameplay scenario, the amazing bike chase.... seriously, I can go on but I've pretty much made my point.

Like I said earlier, whether it's the best looking game to date is ARGUABLE (unarguable on consoles), but definitely not blasphemy to say that it is :| It is one heck of a graphical power house.

[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

"MGS4 has the best graphics because it has hours of beautiful cutscenes blended with a smooth perfect transition to gameplay."

hahahaha, seriously this is GOLD!. Stop putting stupid excuses trying to justify MGS4 winning the award.

karasill

You guys are really being brats about this :|

MGS4's visuals are ARGUABLY the best this gen. Not everyone may agree, but it's case is definitely JUSTIFIED.

The awards are over, quit crying. Spike TV gave best graphics to MGS4 as well... is something with them as well :|

Take the 'BIASED-goggles' off, please.

..and Merry Christmas

I just answered your question on my previous post.

YES. Take the goggles off. GS isn't the only place giving the best graphics award to MGS4 :|

...add the chill-pill and you'll be golden.

Merry Christmas.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

You guys are really being brats about this :|

MGS4's visuals are ARGUABLY the best this gen. Not everyone may agree, but it's case is definitely JUSTIFIED.

The awards are over, quit crying. Spike TV gave best graphics to MGS4 as well... is something with them as well :|

Take the 'BIASED-goggles' off, please.

..and Merry Christmas

leadernator

I just answered your question on my previous post.

YES. Take the goggles off. GS isn't the only place giving the best graphics award to MGS4 :|

...add the chill-pill and you'll be golden.

Merry Christmas.

You have no way of knowing how many people are wrong. I'm just saying, it's not far-fetched AT ALL to give MGS4 the best technical award.

Wow, I used that smily 3 times, who cares :| There's a 4th one for you.

Cry about it if you want, it is what it is. Whining about the awards won't do any of you good. Simply, enjoy the holidays. F system wars.

[QUOTE="karasill"]The award is for best technical graphics, not artistic graphics (like super mario galaxy was going for). The award is for the game that looks the best technically, as in which game has the best looking textures, the most advanced special effects, the best lighting, etc. And I can tell you MGS4 is not the best, not even on consoles. Have you seen the textures in MGS4? A lot of them look low res and washed out and I was watching my brother play it on a 50" HDTV. The only thing that impressed me were the character models, but even then those pale in comparison to the models used in Crysis. Crysis Warhead should have won. And it doest take a high end graphics card to run Crysis on high. You can buy one for $130 or less now. I dont know what GS was thinking. If the award was based on what game looks the best based on what platform they are on then GS should have said that. As far as I'm concerned though thats ont the case until proven otherwise.leadernator

MGS4 is the undisputed BEST on consoles... don't even throw that card.

We all know MGS4 doesn't have the best textures out there, but for some reason you ignore many of the games technical high points. There are ALOT that happens on screen at once (at times), you have varying enemies of all different types and sizes (mechs mixed in with soldier PMCs and other smaller machines), character models look insane, the special effects are top knotch, LARGE environments, not to mention you're always playing in different environment settings. You got the desert warfare, jungle warfare, the streets of F'n LONDON, a naval type ship, heavy snow environments, etc. And yes, the high detail in cutscenes is EXACTLY what you get in gameplay, which explains the perfect transitions. Then you have an amazing MECH on MECH gameplay scenario, the amazing bike chase.... seriously, I can go on but I've pretty much made my point.

Like I said earlier, whether it's the best looking game to date is ARGUABLE (unarguable on consoles), but definitely not blasphemy to say that it is :| It is one heck of a graphical power house.

You have no way of knowing how many people are wrong. I'm just saying, it's not far-fetched AT ALL to give MGS4 the best technical award.

Wow, I used that smily 3 times, who cares :| There's a 4th one for you.

Cry about it if you want, it is what it is. Whining about the awards won't do any of you good. Simply, enjoy the holidays. F system wars.

leadernator

Thank you for clarifying my statement.

I'm not crying about it all. I'm just expressing my amazement that people can defend the notion that MGS4 is technically better than Crysis: Warhead. It's rather amazing. A complete denial of all facts and logic.

MGS4 is overrated in the graphics department.Aljosa23

fanboys get over it MGS4 looks better then Cryisis its a fact got best graphics awardDontBeHatin1983

[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]fanboys get over it MGS4 looks better then Cryisis its a fact got best graphics awardTulak_Hord

[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]fanboys get over it MGS4 looks better then Cryisis its a fact got best graphics awardTulak_Hord

Accvording to nVidiaGamer it dosen't

Crysis cutscenes blend perfectly into gameplay too.....AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="karasill"]The award is for best technical graphics, not artistic graphics (like super mario galaxy was going for). The award is for the game that looks the best technically, as in which game has the best looking textures, the most advanced special effects, the best lighting, etc. And I can tell you MGS4 is not the best, not even on consoles. Have you seen the textures in MGS4? A lot of them look low res and washed out and I was watching my brother play it on a 50" HDTV. The only thing that impressed me were the character models, but even then those pale in comparison to the models used in Crysis. Crysis Warhead should have won. And it doest take a high end graphics card to run Crysis on high. You can buy one for $130 or less now. I dont know what GS was thinking. If the award was based on what game looks the best based on what platform they are on then GS should have said that. As far as I'm concerned though thats ont the case until proven otherwise.karasill

MGS4 is the undisputed BEST on consoles... don't even throw that card.

We all know MGS4 doesn't have the best textures out there, but for some reason you ignore many of the games technical high points. There are ALOT that happens on screen at once (at times), you have varying enemies of all different types and sizes (mechs mixed in with soldier PMCs and other smaller machines), character models look insane, the special effects are top knotch, LARGE environments, not to mention you're always playing in different environment settings. You got the desert warfare, jungle warfare, the streets of F'n LONDON, a naval type ship, heavy snow environments, etc. And yes, the high detail in cutscenes is EXACTLY what you get in gameplay, which explains the perfect transitions. Then you have an amazing MECH on MECH gameplay scenario, the amazing bike chase.... seriously, I can go on but I've pretty much made my point.

Like I said earlier, whether it's the best looking game to date is ARGUABLE (unarguable on consoles), but definitely not blasphemy to say that it is :| It is one heck of a graphical power house.

I did answer your question. You're just not accepting it. 'I can say the same for Crysis except it's one level above MGS4 in every way.' RIIIIIIGHT :|

Because there's a huge mech-on-mech battle in Crysis, right? Motor-bike chase gameplay? Varying environments? What are they?

Do yourself a favor. READ BOTH GS REVIEWS. You'll get your answer from gamespot. GS does mention Crysis to have 'dense' and 'linear' environments, with a 6 hour campaign. There are negatives in the MGS4 review as well. I'm sure there's a lot to factor in... you're simply stuck on the 'textures.'

Like I said, it's not Blasphemy at all to praise MGS4's visuals as some of the best out there.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Crysis cutscenes blend perfectly into gameplay too.....karasill

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Crysis cutscenes blend perfectly into gameplay too.....karasill

calling people 'COWS, LEMMINGS, or SHEEP' isn't flaming, or name-calling in system wars for some reason :| Whatever those are... probably better than being brats.

2 words: Character models.

and people just love MGS4 :P

2 words: Character models and people just love MGS4AgentA-Mi6

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

MGS4 is the undisputed BEST on consoles... don't even throw that card.

We all know MGS4 doesn't have the best textures out there, but for some reason you ignore many of the games technical high points. There are ALOT that happens on screen at once (at times), you have varying enemies of all different types and sizes (mechs mixed in with soldier PMCs and other smaller machines), character models look insane, the special effects are top knotch, LARGE environments, not to mention you're always playing in different environment settings. You got the desert warfare, jungle warfare, the streets of F'n LONDON, a naval type ship, heavy snow environments, etc. And yes, the high detail in cutscenes is EXACTLY what you get in gameplay, which explains the perfect transitions. Then you have an amazing MECH on MECH gameplay scenario, the amazing bike chase.... seriously, I can go on but I've pretty much made my point.

Like I said earlier, whether it's the best looking game to date is ARGUABLE (unarguable on consoles), but definitely not blasphemy to say that it is :| It is one heck of a graphical power house.

leadernator

I did answer your question. You're just not accepting it. 'I can say the same for Crysis except it's one level above MGS4 in every way.' RIIIIIIGHT :|

Because there's a huge mech-on-mech battle in Crysis, right? Motor-bike chase gameplay? Varying environments? What are they?

Do yourself a favor. READ BOTH GS REVIEWS. You'll get your answer from gamespot. GS does mention Crysis to have 'dense' and 'linear' environments, with a 6 hour campaign. There are negatives in the MGS4 review as well. I'm sure there's a lot to factor in... you're simply stuck on the 'textures.'

Like I said, it's not Blasphemy at all to praise MGS4's visuals as some of the best out there.

Scenarios in a game has nothing to do with technical graphics. Technical means the technology behind the game's look. Meaning what about it makes the game look the way it does, not the scenario that is being played out. It's how advanced and realistic the lighting, the textures, the geometry count, the character models, the size of the enviroments, the particle effects and other special effects are that determine what game has the best technical graphics.

So answer my question, point it out. What does MGS4 do better then Crysis Warhead? Does is have better lighting? Does it have better looking water? Does it have better looking particle effects? Does it have better and mre realistic looking character models? Does it have larger enviroments? A larger draw distance? Does it have volumetric clouds and smoke? Does it have an actaul sky and not a sky box? The list can go on and on. Please name it because I'm dying to know.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]2 words: Character models and people just love MGS4Gh0st_Of_0nyx

However you word it Crysis > MGS4 as far as graphics go. nmaharg

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]However you word it Crysis > MGS4 as far as graphics go. Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

I did answer your question. You're just not accepting it. 'I can say the same for Crysis except it's one level above MGS4 in every way.' RIIIIIIGHT :|

Because there's a huge mech-on-mech battle in Crysis, right? Motor-bike chase gameplay? Varying environments? What are they?

Do yourself a favor. READ BOTH GS REVIEWS. You'll get your answer from gamespot. GS does mention Crysis to have 'dense' and 'linear' environments, with a 6 hour campaign. There are negatives in the MGS4 review as well. I'm sure there's a lot to factor in... you're simply stuck on the 'textures.'

Like I said, it's not Blasphemy at all to praise MGS4's visuals as some of the best out there.

leadernator

Scenarios in a game has nothing to do with technical graphics. Technical means the technology behind the game's look. Meaning what about it makes the game look the way it does, not the scenario that is being played out. It's how advanced and realistic the lighting, the textures, the geometry count, the character models, the size of the enviroments, the particle effects and other special effects are that determine what game has the best technical graphics.

So answer my question, point it out. What does MGS4 do better then Crysis Warhead? Does is have better lighting? Does it have better looking water? Does it have better looking particle effects? Does it have better and mre realistic looking character models? Does it have larger enviroments? A larger draw distance? Does it have volumetric clouds and smoke? Does it have an actaul sky and not a sky box? The list can go on and on. Please name it because I'm dying to know.

They are not simply 'scenarios,' they are GAMEPLAY. NOT SCENES. GAMEPLAY. Seriously, I actually might have to cap everything to get into your head.

I answered your lame question. I'll answer it again, and you'll be like 'I'm still waiting for my answer.' SHUT IT MAN. They are only videogames.

How do you know EXACTLY that Crysis does EVERYTHING better? It's got that one environment. whoopee. How about this, find the technical blue prints for EACH GAME, polygon counts and what, environment scale... I WANT ACTUAL NUMBERS. How about that? Can you do it? Didn't think so. That's about the only thing that can satisfy your pitiful argument. If you, and other fanboys can't accept GS's OPINION (key word), that's simply your guys' failing, and your guys' failing alone.

MGS4 is a technical achievement whether you like it or not, and simply deserves every bit of attention it gets. Crysis is awesome too, but in the end, they are JUST VIDEOGAMES. Like I said. Cry. Cry on. It won't do any of you good... and it especially isn't doing me any good wasting time here. I'm out.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?Eyezonmii

That is why it didnt get the award plain and simple.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

I did answer your question. You're just not accepting it. 'I can say the same for Crysis except it's one level above MGS4 in every way.' RIIIIIIGHT :|

Because there's a huge mech-on-mech battle in Crysis, right? Motor-bike chase gameplay? Varying environments? What are they?

Do yourself a favor. READ BOTH GS REVIEWS. You'll get your answer from gamespot. GS does mention Crysis to have 'dense' and 'linear' environments, with a 6 hour campaign. There are negatives in the MGS4 review as well. I'm sure there's a lot to factor in... you're simply stuck on the 'textures.'

Like I said, it's not Blasphemy at all to praise MGS4's visuals as some of the best out there.

leadernator

Scenarios in a game has nothing to do with technical graphics. Technical means the technology behind the game's look. Meaning what about it makes the game look the way it does, not the scenario that is being played out. It's how advanced and realistic the lighting, the textures, the geometry count, the character models, the size of the enviroments, the particle effects and other special effects are that determine what game has the best technical graphics.

So answer my question, point it out. What does MGS4 do better then Crysis Warhead? Does is have better lighting? Does it have better looking water? Does it have better looking particle effects? Does it have better and mre realistic looking character models? Does it have larger enviroments? A larger draw distance? Does it have volumetric clouds and smoke? Does it have an actaul sky and not a sky box? The list can go on and on. Please name it because I'm dying to know.

They are not simply 'scenarios,' they are GAMEPLAY. NOT SCENES. GAMEPLAY. Seriously, I actually might have to cap everything to get into your head.

I answered your lame question. I'll answer it again, and you'll be like 'I'm still waiting for my answer.' SHUT IT MAN. They are only videogames.

How do you know EXACTLY that Crysis does EVERYTHING better? It's got that one environment. whoopee. How about this, find the technical blue prints for EACH GAME, polygon counts and what, environment scale... I WANT ACTUAL NUMBERS. How about that? Can you do it? Didn't think so. That's about the only thing that can satisfy your pitiful argument. If you, and other fanboys can't accept GS's OPINION (key word), that's simply your guys' failing, and your guys' failing alone.

MGS4 is a technical achievement whether you like it or not, and simply deserves every bit of attention it gets. Crysis is awesome too, but in the end, they are JUST VIDEOGAMES. Like I said. Cry. Cry on. It won't do any of you good... and it especially isn't doing me any good wasting time here. I'm out.

MGS4's visuals are ARGUABLY the best this gen. Not everyone may agree, but it's case is definitely JUSTIFIED.

leadernator

The award is for Best Graphics: Technical. What game has the best graphics from a technical effects standpoint?MetroidPrimePwn