System wars, I got a very important question I need your opinions on.

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#1 outworld222
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You know, I've played Goldeneye 007 and also Ocarina of Time to a certain extent.

My question, you know how they say that OOT pretty much reinvented the Video Game industry as a whole, including various features such as 3D, auto aiming system.

Well, you know that little game called Goldeneye 007, which came a year before OOT, and had all those same features? Why doesn't anyone mention Goldeneye for what it brought to gamers and the gaming world in general? Why does OOT always overshadow Goldeneye in accomplishments, despite the undoubted fact that OOT is a great game that can stand on its own?

I need your opinions.

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#2 parkurtommo
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I think this is too important for me to participate in.

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#3 LegatoSkyheart
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well first off, this seems so very Legacy Boardish and this is System Wars.

and secondly, those are the most highest regarded N64 games of all time, I have no idea what you're talking about Overshadowing.

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#4 outworld222
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I think this is too important for me to participate in.

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You know, I'm very honored. But every opinion is important to me.
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#5 outworld222
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well first off, this seems so very Legacy Boardish and this is System Wars.

and secondly, those are the most highest regarded N64 games of all time, I have no idea what you're talking about Overshadowing.

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We'll let a mod see which board this topic is fit for.

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#6 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

I think this is too important for me to participate in.

outworld222
You know, I'm very honored. But every opinion is important to me.

But seeing as the matter is so important, I think I should stick with the insignificant discussions!
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#7 outworld222
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[QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

I think this is too important for me to participate in.

parkurtommo
You know, I'm very honored. But every opinion is important to me.

But seeing as the matter is so important, I think I should stick with the insignificant discussions!

By all means, if there is something you want to say, I'm all ears. Don't be all negative now. I don't adhere to negativity.
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#8 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="outworld222"] You know, I'm very honored. But every opinion is important to me.

But seeing as the matter is so important, I think I should stick with the insignificant discussions!

By all means, if there is something you want to say, I'm all ears. Don't be all negative now. I don't adhere to negativity.

I don't think you understand THIS IS IMPORTANT Anyways, both games were groundbraking and neither of them were overshadowed I don't think.
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I don't post enough to answer such an important question.

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#10 outworld222
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I don't post enough to answer such an important question.

whiskeystrike
Enough! This is a serious question that deserves a serious answer!
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#11 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

I don't post enough to answer such an important question.

outworld222

Enough! This is a serious question that deserves a serious answer!

and you got 2.

Both games were never Overshadowed and they were 2 of the Highest Rated N64 Games and Highest Regarded.

To this Day People still talk about Goldeneye and Ocarina of Time.

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#12 outworld222
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[QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

I don't post enough to answer such an important question.

LegatoSkyheart

Enough! This is a serious question that deserves a serious answer!

and you got 2.

Both games were never Overshadowed and they were 2 of the Highest Rated N64 Games and Highest Regarded.

To this Day People still talk about Goldeneye and Ocarina of Time.

Thank you very much. You are a serious person.
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#13 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="outworld222"] Enough! This is a serious question that deserves a serious answer! outworld222

and you got 2.

Both games were never Overshadowed and they were 2 of the Highest Rated N64 Games and Highest Regarded.

To this Day People still talk about Goldeneye and Ocarina of Time.

Thank you very much. You are a serious person.

Thi is srs like srsly
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There so many serious persons!!
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#15 outworld222
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[QUOTE="ca5albert"]There so many serious persons!!

Yep, I agree to agree.
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#16 lostrib
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[QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

and you got 2.

Both games were never Overshadowed and they were 2 of the Highest Rated N64 Games and Highest Regarded.

To this Day People still talk about Goldeneye and Ocarina of Time.

parkurtommo

Thank you very much. You are a serious person.

Thi is srs like srsly

Super Serial!

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#17 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="outworld222"] Thank you very much. You are a serious person.lostrib

Thi is srs like srsly

Super Serial!

Cereal?
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#18 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Thi is srs like srslyparkurtommo

Super Serial!

Cereal?

Super Serial Cheerios?

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#19 rjdofu
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Serious business in this thread!!!!!

Anyway, why do you want to compare a shooter with an action adventure? Apple & orange, both taste nice, but comparing them is just silly.

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#20 way2funny
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First person shooters have been done before goldeneye, 3rd person action-adventure type games in 3D werent really perfected until OOT. Mario perfected platformers (and in 3d), oot perfected 3d action-adventure

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#21 SPYDER0416
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Goldeneye 007 is talked about a TON dude, like right up there with Ocarina.

Its considered to be the best console shooter of the 90's, and even one of the best shooters of the 90's (right up there with Half-Life and Quake) by many, many people. It has a 97 on Metacritic, it sold millions of copies, its remembered more then the movie it was based off of, it led to a string of Bond games attempting to emulate it, and revolutionized the FPS on consoles with the incredible split screen and clever objective based missions.

Everyone loves Goldeneye, but unlike Ocarina it did age a lot faster. You go back and play Ocarina and its not so bad, Goldeneye's controls and graphics are damn old, and I'd say next to the original Deus Ex, its one of the most dated games you can go back and play.

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#22 parkurtommo
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Serious business in this thread!!!!!

Anyway, why do you want to compare a shooter with an action adventure? Apple & orange, both taste nice, but comparing them is just silly.

rjdofu
Oranges taste nicer than apples so u r a falaciiiee
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#23 D4W1L4H
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This thread is too serious for System Wars.

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#24 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

Serious business in this thread!!!!!

Anyway, why do you want to compare a shooter with an action adventure? Apple & orange, both taste nice, but comparing them is just silly.

parkurtommo

Oranges taste nicer than apples so u r a falaciiiee

No u!

Apple are 1000x more important than oranges hehehe. And did i mention apple can be eaten without peeling? Apple wins!

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#25 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]

Serious business in this thread!!!!!

Anyway, why do you want to compare a shooter with an action adventure? Apple & orange, both taste nice, but comparing them is just silly.

rjdofu

Oranges taste nicer than apples so u r a falaciiiee

No u!

Apple are 1000x more important than oranges hehehe. And did i mention apple can be eaten without peeling? Apple wins!

Once ur dun with the peiling you can eat it no prob but with apples u must ignore the core
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Oranges taste nicer than apples so u r a falaciiieeparkurtommo

No u!

Apple are 1000x more important than oranges hehehe. And did i mention apple can be eaten without peeling? Apple wins!

Once ur dun with the peiling you can eat it no prob but with apples u must ignore the core

Dun worri i eat everything :), like a boss!
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#27 Lucianu
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Everyone loves Goldeneye, but unlike Ocarina it did age a lot faster. You go back and play Ocarina and its not so bad, Goldeneye's controls and graphics are damn old, and I'd say next to the original Deus Ex, its one of the most dated games you can go back and play.

SPYDER0416

Goldeneye has a horrible framerate and clunky controls, which is the only reason why it's hard to go back and play. Neither of these affect Deus Ex, plus Deus Ex has the advantage of graphics and gameplay mods that i have mentioned in my sig.

Deus Ex hasn't aged one second, apart from its vanilla graphics which were mediocre in 2000, let alone today.

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#28 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] No u!

Apple are 1000x more important than oranges hehehe. And did i mention apple can be eaten without peeling? Apple wins!

rjdofu
Once ur dun with the peiling you can eat it no prob but with apples u must ignore the core

Dun worri i eat everything :), like a boss!

Hao r u not ded of radiation poisoning?
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#29 pelvist
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Well, much better games like System Shock, Dark Forces, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Hexen ect... came out on PC years before Goldeneye so neither of those two games revolutionised 3D gaming at all. However, Goldeneye was really the first ever FPS besides Turoc to ever become popular on a console and Ocarana of Time was the first console game I can remember that had a dynamic day/night cycle.

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#30 heretrix
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they say that OOT pretty much reinvented the Video Game industry as a whole, including various features such as 3D, auto aiming system.

outworld222

Whoever said that is an idiot and wasn't gaming on a PC at the time.

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#31 Vesica_Prime
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Two completely different genres.

That and the only new things that Goldeneye 007 brought to the genre were headshots and its health system. Compared to Ocarina of Time which set the bar and brought multiple things to the table for third person action-adventure games.

I think Goldeneye 007 was distinct and was widely acclaimed as it was a very good example of how to do shooters right on a console.

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#32 Arach666
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Everyone loves Goldeneye, but unlike Ocarina it did age a lot faster. You go back and play Ocarina and its not so bad, Goldeneye's controls and graphics are damn old, and I'd say next to the original Deus Ex, its one of the most dated games you can go back and play.

Lucianu

Goldeneye has a horrible framerate and clunky controls, which is the only reason why it's hard to go back and play. Neither of these affect Deus Ex, plus Deus Ex has the advantage of graphics and gameplay mods that i have mentioned in my sig.

Deus Ex hasn't aged one second, apart from its vanilla graphics which were mediocre in 2000, let alone today.

Pretty much this,it blows my mind when I see people saying DX has aged badly.
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Once ur dun with the peiling you can eat it no prob but with apples u must ignore the coreparkurtommo
Dun worri i eat everything :), like a boss!

Hao r u not ded of radiation poisoning?

i'm just dat special & cereal :cool:

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sorry i don't play trash

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Goleneye was a pretty good game but OoT brought a whole new level of garbage to the industry