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#1 finalstar2007
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Very interesting interview with the Tales of producer ( Tales of Xillia, Tales of Vesperia, etc )

The producer mention how the studio is focusing a lot on the PS3 as its the most famous platform out there and they havnt started working on next gen platforms yet.

I will say that we havent started any development on any next generation systems. Were still focused on the PS3.

 

When it comes to platforms, it all comes down to what our fans have. Weve done lots of research and have determined that most Tales fans have PlayStation 3s, which is why most of the main Tales of games come out for that platform.

 

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For more of the whole interview and how JRPGs have changed plus WRPGs have affected JRPGs you can read it here: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/15/tales-of-producer-talks-about-jrpg-changes-over-15-years-of-tales/

The next upcoming Tales will be Tales of Xillia which will be releasing only on PS3 this summer

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More tales games incoming :D

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#2 ShadowDeathX
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Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

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#3 finalstar2007
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Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

ShadowDeathX

So basically what your saying is just "if".. we'll see when that happens but doubt i would get anything Nintendo other than the 3DS.

Vita is not flopping anymore ( in Japan ).

i think better to stay on topic.

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#4 Vyse_Legends
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Soooo...does this mean North America will be getting Tales of Vesperia on PS3 then?

Cause I want my KOS-MOS outfit and bonus loli pirate girl that japan got since it wasn't localized.:|

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#5 finalstar2007
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Soooo...does this mean North America will be getting Tales of Vesperia on PS3 then?

Cause I want my KOS-MOS outfit and bonus loli pirate girl that japan got since it wasn't localized.:|

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U and ur loli stuff.. you havent changed one bit :P

anyways i think we may see Vesperia this year because the producer hinted that this year will be a Tales filled year to the North America fans and since they said no localization plans for the Vita games then it got to be Vesperia PSN release or Xillia 2 release but i would expect Xillia 2 next year and Vesperia this year after Xillia lol but this is just assumptions

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#6 GD1551
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So he wants to do a wrpg huh? Rehashing tales is probably boring.

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#7 ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

Soooo...does this mean North America will be getting Tales of Vesperia on PS3 then?

Cause I want my KOS-MOS outfit and bonus loli pirate girl that japan got since it wasn't localized.:|

finalstar2007

U and ur loli stuff.. you havent changed one bit :P

anyways i think we may see Vesperia this year because the producer hinted that this year will be a Tales filled year to the North America fans and since they said no localization plans for the Vita games then it got to be Vesperia PSN release or Xillia 2 release but i would expect Xillia 2 next year and Vesperia this year after Xillia lol but this is just assumptions

Ummmmm....... I don't see Vesperia coming out so late. but who knows.
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Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

ShadowDeathX

It'd be like Tales of Vesperia for 360. He'd rather just not play it at all if it doesn't have the PS3 logo on the box.

His loyalty is stronger to a plastic box than it is to the devs he claims to love :(

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#9 finalstar2007
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So he wants to do a wrpg huh? Rehashing tales is probably boring.

GD1551

They are paying close attention to WRPGs and most JRPG devs seem to do that too.. pay attention to WRPGs but at the same time stay classic and have a JRPG feeling too.. we may see even bigger change next gen with JRPGs

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

Ly_the_Fairy

It'd be like Tales of Vesperia for 360. He'd rather just not play it at all if it doesn't have the PS3 logo on the box.

His loyalty is stronger to a plastic box than it is to the devs he claims to love :(

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#11 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

Ly_the_Fairy

It'd be like Tales of Vesperia for 360. He'd rather just not play it at all if it doesn't have the PS3 logo on the box.

His loyalty is stronger to a plastic box than it is to the devs he claims to love :(

I bought vesperia on xbox so i supported the devs.. focus on topic guys -_-

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

So he wants to do a wrpg huh? Rehashing tales is probably boring.

finalstar2007

They are paying close attention to WRPGs and most JRPG devs seem to do that too.. pay attention to WRPGs but at the same time stay classic and have a JRPG feeling too.. we may see even bigger change next gen with JRPGs

I think he has a point with JRPGs taking too long to complete though, to be fair, I don't think I've finished anyway except parasite eve, but most of them drag on way too long. Like I'm maybe 8 or so hours into persona 4 and I've felt like I've gone no where :|

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#13 Bigboi500
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That's fine with me and I'd rather see them stay on PS3 instead of switching to PS4, until much later in its life.

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God, I want Tales of Vesperia on PS3. :( please Namco!
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Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

ShadowDeathX

He should know that the most popular Tales game in the west is still GameCube exclusive in NA and EU. :lol:

And looking back, I recall doubting several Tales fans, namely our old friend Tikeio (who I didn't get along too well with, to be honest). I'll have to find that thread.

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in salesSweenix

more then the 360 versions and wii versions of tales

Only because the west received what's said to be one of the worst sequels to Symphonia (which again, is GameCube exclusive in the west and is the most popular one in the same area) and Namco didn't bother localizing the original Wii version of Graces.

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so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in saleslamprey263
Which is better than what both Gears of War: Judgement and God of War: Ascention did. Not too bad for a niche genre.

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#18 zarshack
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

So he wants to do a wrpg huh? Rehashing tales is probably boring.

GD1551

They are paying close attention to WRPGs and most JRPG devs seem to do that too.. pay attention to WRPGs but at the same time stay classic and have a JRPG feeling too.. we may see even bigger change next gen with JRPGs

I think he has a point with JRPGs taking too long to complete though, to be fair, I don't think I've finished anyway except parasite eve, but most of them drag on way too long. Like I'm maybe 8 or so hours into persona 4 and I've felt like I've gone no where :|

Thats because you have gone no where. P4 will take you  70-100 hours to finish.

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#19 Supabul
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It took them the whole gen to give us a Tales Wii port

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#20 Jack-Burton
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I'd like them just to be more focused on Ps3 in the west.
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#21 lamprey263
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so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in sales
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#22 Sweenix
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so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in saleslamprey263

more then the 360 versions and wii versions of tales

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

finalstar2007

So basically what your saying is just "if".. we'll see when that happens but doubt i would get anything Nintendo other than the 3DS.

Vita is not flopping anymore ( in Japan ).

i think better to stay on topic.

Reported for hypothetical question dodging.

More to the point.  If Sony literally lost all jrpg support across all platforms and your only choice for jrpgs was on Nintendo platforms... what would you do?

Yes, its an "if", but it should be easy to answer.

On topic -

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so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in saleslamprey263

Which is fine for a JRPG that isn't Final Fantasy.

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#25 timmy00
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Which is better than what both Gears of War: Judgement and God of War: Ascention did. Not too bad for a niche genre.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in salesarchvile_78

Which is fine for a JRPG that isn't Final Fantasy.

^Truths. It's really not bad, especially if the developer can watch their budget.

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#26 FlamesOfGrey
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so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in saleslamprey263
You don't follow Japan. 500k+ is great for any RPG that isn't Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy or Pokemon in Japan.
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#27 finalstar2007
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so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in saleslamprey263

1 game on ps3 sells more than any other tales game on other platforms combined.. ToV sold double on PS3 than it did on xbox for example, another would be Graces and so on ;)

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#28 whiskeystrike
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"In regards to our franchise, not much has changed"

At least they can admit it.

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Outside of a PS4 I own any system that a Tales is likely to release on. Don't care, just give me mah Tales.

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#29 Eikichi-Onizuka
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Tales games aren't exactly high budget. I don't expect to see any of them on PS4 for at least a few years. Looking forward to Xillia, with this being the year of Tales hopefully there will be another localization that makes it here this year.
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I didn't read, but I'm guessing this is the one where they said they did research for why its only on PS right?

If so... that was a lot of research, looking at that Media Create. :P

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so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in saleslamprey263

Tales of Vesperia had a world-wide release on the Xbox while the PS3 version not only came a year late but it was a Japan only release and guess what... PS3 version still sold more! Tales of Graces was a Wii exclusive for a year and sold less than 200,000 copies then the PS3 version came out and sold almost a million!

Ratios are pretty big on both cases.  :cool:

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#32 Shirokishi_
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And Vita because.... why are they making Vita Tales games again?

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lol true. I could see much more Tales fans owning a 3DS than a Vita.



I mean I get that they put way more Tales games on the PSP than on DS so I see wha they may have been thinking but the 3DS has much more owners. If not the remakes why not a new Tales on the 3DS? I dont get it.

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#33 reaver-x
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Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

ShadowDeathX
oh he would definetely ignore it. if is not on PS3, he does not care. so this news must due him wonders for PS3 fanboyism meter
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

ConanTheStoner

So basically what your saying is just "if".. we'll see when that happens but doubt i would get anything Nintendo other than the 3DS.

Vita is not flopping anymore ( in Japan ).

i think better to stay on topic.

Reported for hypothetical question dodging.

More to the point.  If Sony literally lost all jrpg support across all platforms and your only choice for jrpgs was on Nintendo platforms... what would you do?

Yes, its an "if", but it should be easy to answer.

 

 

*grabs popcorn and a gallon of beer*

lets see where this goes

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Vesperia sold well on 360, shame the system gets not love from them.
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

Ly_the_Fairy

It'd be like Tales of Vesperia for 360. He'd rather just not play it at all if it doesn't have the PS3 logo on the box.

His loyalty is stronger to a plastic box than it is to the devs he claims to love :(

Sheesh now that is extreme. 

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#37 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

They are paying close attention to WRPGs and most JRPG devs seem to do that too.. pay attention to WRPGs but at the same time stay classic and have a JRPG feeling too.. we may see even bigger change next gen with JRPGs

zarshack

I think he has a point with JRPGs taking too long to complete though, to be fair, I don't think I've finished anyway except parasite eve, but most of them drag on way too long. Like I'm maybe 8 or so hours into persona 4 and I've felt like I've gone no where :|

Thats because you have gone no where. P4 will take you  70-100 hours to finish.

That's a bit much tbh :|

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And Vita because.... why are they making Vita Tales games again?

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#39 DJ-Lafleur
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And Vita because.... why are they making Vita Tales games again?

Shirokishi_

lol true. I could see much more Tales fans owning a 3DS than a Vita.

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Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

ShadowDeathX

Isn't the Tales writer writing the story for the new Smash Bros.? I know Namco-Bandai is working on it. I thought I heard somewhere that he was writing the single-player story.

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in salesGue1

Tales of Vesperia had a world-wide release on the Xbox while the PS3 version not only came a year late but it was a Japan only release and guess what... PS3 version still sold more! Tales of Graces was a Wii exclusive for a year and sold less than 200,000 copies then the PS3 version came out and sold almost a million!

Ratios are pretty big on both cases.  :cool:

And yet Vesperia PS3 does not have plans for localization :(
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#42 archvile_78
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

Nintendo_Ownes7

Isn't the Tales writer writing the story for the new Smash Bros.? I know Namco-Bandai is working on it. I thought I heard somewhere that he was writing the single-player story.

No clues, makes me wonder if we'll see a Tales character in the new Smash Bros roster.

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And Vita because.... why are they making Vita Tales games again?

Shirokishi_
I think it's because of a contract.
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#44 SonicNextGen2
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Hey Finalstar, what would you do if your beloved Tales series migrates to Nintendo consoles?

Let's say that the PS4 does a Vita and flops in the short term, maybe, in Japan (we have yet to see any big Japanese game announcements for the PS4). The Wii U gets a big boost and Japanese developers develop for it.

What would you do? Ignore Tales? or get a Wii U?

archvile_78

Isn't the Tales writer writing the story for the new Smash Bros.? I know Namco-Bandai is working on it. I thought I heard somewhere that he was writing the single-player story.

No clues, makes me wonder if we'll see a Tales character in the new Smash Bros roster.

Heck, they can put Goku in, Bandai is a subsidiary of Namco now XD
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#45 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

And Vita because.... why are they making Vita Tales games again?

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I think it's because of a contract.

There is no contract between Sony and Namco for the Vita Tales games. The Vita Tales games are reimagined upgraded ports not new games. They probably chose Vita because of it's hardware.
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#46 archvile_78
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[QUOTE="archvile_78"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]Isn't the Tales writer writing the story for the new Smash Bros.? I know Namco-Bandai is working on it. I thought I heard somewhere that he was writing the single-player story.

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No clues, makes me wonder if we'll see a Tales character in the new Smash Bros roster.

Heck, they can put Goku in, Bandai is a subsidiary of Namco now XD

Lol true, i was saying that because i remember Lloyd Irving from Symphonia was a guest character in a Soul Calibur game at some point.

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#47 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in salesGue1

Tales of Vesperia had a world-wide release on the Xbox while the PS3 version not only came a year late but it was a Japan only release and guess what... PS3 version still sold more! Tales of Graces was a Wii exclusive for a year and sold less than 200,000 copies then the PS3 version came out and sold almost a million!

Ratios are pretty big on both cases.  :cool:

The PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia sold over 650,000 units?

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#48 archvile_78
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]so popular that the average Tales game on the PS3 nets a little over half a million in salesLy_the_Fairy

Tales of Vesperia had a world-wide release on the Xbox while the PS3 version not only came a year late but it was a Japan only release and guess what... PS3 version still sold more! Tales of Graces was a Wii exclusive for a year and sold less than 200,000 copies then the PS3 version came out and sold almost a million!

Ratios are pretty big on both cases.  :cool:

The PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia sold over 650,000 units?

Gue's being Gue, no idea where he pulled those numbers from, especially with graces f.

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#49 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="SonicNextGen2"][QUOTE="archvile_78"]

No clues, makes me wonder if we'll see a Tales character in the new Smash Bros roster.

archvile_78

Heck, they can put Goku in, Bandai is a subsidiary of Namco now XD

Lol true, i was saying that because i remember Lloyd Irving from Symphonia was a guest character in a Soul Calibur game at some point.

I think they should put KOS-MOS and Kalas atleast in SSB4 since Namco owns those characters but they were created by a Nintendo 1st Party developer Monolith Soft.

Though I could see Lloyd Irving in SSB4.

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#50 archvile_78
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[QUOTE="archvile_78"]

[QUOTE="SonicNextGen2"] Heck, they can put Goku in, Bandai is a subsidiary of Namco now XDNintendo_Ownes7

Lol true, i was saying that because i remember Lloyd Irving from Symphonia was a guest character in a Soul Calibur game at some point.

I think they should put KOS-MOS and Kalas atleast in SSB4 since Namco owns those characters but they were created by a Nintendo 1st Party developer Monolith Soft.

Though I could see Lloyd Irving in SSB4.

They could always go with the protagonist of Tales of Phantasia, Cress Albane, he'd fit in well with Fire Emblem characters in term of look. IMO

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