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Steam is a good reason to not like them considering it locks all your games down with DRM. It maybe convenient but if Valve ever goes down you lose your games (the drm-free patch is bull, if a business is tanking they aren't going to take the time to patch every game which could cause legal issues in itself). Great company? Sure, but there are reasons to dislike them. The whole 'can do no wrong' that a lot of people feel towards Bioware, Valve, Blizzard and Bethesda is really annoying sometimes.
KingsMessenger
DRM is a fact of this industry. It is a fact of pretty much all digital based industries. Hating Valve just because they developed a platform that is ultimately one of the least intrusive forms of DRM is kind of obtuse IMO. I don't love DRM, but I accept that it is the reality of a service like Steam.
And Valve can do wrong. They just haven't really done much wrong. Their initial handling of L4D2 wasn't outstanding and they are incredibly slow at releasing new Half-Life games, but those aren't reasons to dislike them... Nothing that they have done has really warranted any level of hate for them. As developers go, they are definitely among the "best" in terms of doing things the right way.
But this is derailing the thread so just leave it at that.
A fact of the industry?!? Good Old Games, Paradox, a good amount of Gamersgate and indie developers all disagree with you. I don't hate Valve, in fact I respect them for making a DRM I can tolerate, but I do not like DRM in the slightest. Like I boycott pretty much every DRM system but Steam.
Valve have done plenty of wrong. They completely screwed up the release of Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines by not giving Troika an updated version of source so they were stuck with a broken beta version because Valve wanted to show off the engine with Half-Life 2. They sold Left 4 Dead on the promise of support and dropped it like a hot potato for the sequel. They have forced people off of Steam (EA with Crysis 2) or declined indies for stupid reasons because of their own bias (which should be absent from a service like that, some of the games they declined would have sold well). They completely screw over other countries with 1USD=1Euro pricing which is set by them and you have to ask to get it changed into a different conversion (a few indie devs confirmed this). They have region restrictions (not as bad as Impulse granted) which is anti-consumer at best.
These are off the top of my head, If I dug around I could find more. They offer good support for their products and have a strong platform but that makes them not much better then other developers because they make mistakes like any business. I would say the same thing about CD Projekt and I hold them to the same standard most people here hold Valve.
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