Thank you Microsoft for degrading GTA IV

Not one of those "GTA IV SUCKS BECAUSE ITS ON THE 360" posts.

But a rather good point.

"Think about it.

Whenever a game is exclusive, it's developed only for that specific platform to which it is exclusive. Fact.

Whenever a game goes multiplat, a single engine is developed for both platforms, but initially is tested out on console A - which is the main console. Only very few developers (Infinity Wards is amongst them) have dedicated teams that develop engines alongside for each platform. Rockstar isn't one of them as far as we know."

Makes a lot of sense imho

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Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.SpruceCaboose

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

Not one of those "GTA IV SUCKS BECAUSE ITS ON THE 360" posts.

But a rather good point.

"Think about it.

Whenever a game is exclusive, it's developed only for that specific platform to which it is exclusive. Fact.

Whenever a game goes multiplat, a single engine is developed for both platforms, but initially is tested out on console A - which is the main console. Only very few developers (Infinity Wards is amongst them) have dedicated teams that develop engines alongside for each platform. Rockstar isn't one of them as far as we know."

Makes a lot of sense imho

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mynameisdigo

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.mynameisdigo

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

Not one of those "GTA IV SUCKS BECAUSE ITS ON THE 360" posts.

But a rather good point.

"Think about it.

Whenever a game is exclusive, it's developed only for that specific platform to which it is exclusive. Fact.

Whenever a game goes multiplat, a single engine is developed for both platforms, but initially is tested out on console A - which is the main console. Only very few developers (Infinity Wards is amongst them) have dedicated teams that develop engines alongside for each platform. Rockstar isn't one of them as far as we know."

Makes a lot of sense imho

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mynameisdigo

Goes both ways, GTA4 would be 10x better if it was made for 360 ground up, fully utilizing its DX9.5 features, unified ram and EDRAM, 3 CPUs etc etc

Now with shared development, looks way worst than it would of course, i completly agree with what you posted above

But it is not MS fault, just Rockstar that did not make it 360 only

[QUOTE="mynameisdigo"]

Not one of those "GTA IV SUCKS BECAUSE ITS ON THE 360" posts.

But a rather good point.

"Think about it.

Whenever a game is exclusive, it's developed only for that specific platform to which it is exclusive. Fact.

Whenever a game goes multiplat, a single engine is developed for both platforms, but initially is tested out on console A - which is the main console. Only very few developers (Infinity Wards is amongst them) have dedicated teams that develop engines alongside for each platform. Rockstar isn't one of them as far as we know."

Makes a lot of sense imho

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obamanian

Goes both ways, GTA4 would be 10x better if it was made for 360 ground up, fully utilizing its DX9.5 features, unified ram and EDRAM, 3 CPUs etc etc

Now with shared development, looks way worst than it would of course, i completly agree with what you posted above

But it is not MS fault, just Rockstar that did not make it 360 only

From the blog:

"While it is a fine game and a very good piece of downloadable content - it's essentially the same game in almost every aspect"

Maybe that's because it exists parallel to the events of GTA IV and it uses the assets from that game and IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME GAME WITH DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT..

JEZUZ. I swear I'm really beginning to hate the internet.

From the blog:

"While it is a fine game and a very good piece of downloadable content - it's essentially the same game in almost every aspect"

Maybe that's because it exists parallel to the events of GTA IV and it uses the assets from that game and IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME GAME WITH DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT..

JEZUZ. I swear I'm really beginning to hate the internet.

heretrix

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.mynameisdigo

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

From the blog:

"While it is a fine game and a very good piece of downloadable content - it's essentially the same game in almost every aspect"

Maybe that's because it exists parallel to the events of GTA IV and it uses the assets from that game and IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME GAME WITH DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT..

JEZUZ. I swear I'm really beginning to hate the internet.

SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="mynameisdigo"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.SpruceCaboose

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

He is not afraid to speak his mind because of advertisers. Hmmmmm this reminds me of Jeff...

Spuce, I'm an eternal optimist. I will not let the interweb break me down. There are people out there that have not replaced their brain with a melon.heretrix

He is not afraid to speak his mind because of advertisers. Hmmmmm this reminds me of Jeff...

He is not afraid to speak his mind because of advertisers. Hmmmmm this reminds me of Jeff...

mynameisdigo

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="mynameisdigo"]

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

mynameisdigo

He is not afraid to speak his mind because of advertisers. Hmmmmm this reminds me of Jeff...

He's just a shock jock of the gaming industry, nothing more. People listen to his reviews more to hear how he bashes the game rather than actual detailed information on the game.

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

So why does the 360 version look and run better:?FirstDiscovery

Careful saying things like that, You'll make the OP head explode. Truth hurts.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]So why does the 360 version look and run better:?CreepyBacon

Careful saying things like that, You'll make the OP head explode. Truth hurts.

Actually it makes a lot of sense

It was initially developed for the 360, yet is capable to look better on the PS3

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]So why does the 360 version look and run better:?CreepyBacon

Careful saying things like that, You'll make the OP head explode. Truth hurts.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.mynameisdigo

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

That is without a doubt, absolutely, 100% the DUMBEST article I have read in a long time. Seriously, I feel stupiderer for dun readin it.

That is without a doubt, absolutely, 100% the DUMBEST article I have read in a long time. Seriously, I feel stupiderer for dun readin it.

speedsix

I dun red it too. My Intellimagents dun gone and disapperated. I'm gonna red a book or somethin else on these internets nao to get them bak.

*The_Game21x reads something that was intelligently written*

Ah, there we go, my IQ has returned. Seriously, that article was filled with all kinds of backwards logic and contradictions.

Did the writer of that article ever stop to think that Rockstar didn't improve the visuals of TLAD because they didn't deem it necessary and not because GTA IV in its current form is all the 360 could handle? Nope, because that would've made sense.

And I guess no one told him that GTA IV runs at a higher resolution on the 360 with more AA and has a consistently higher framerate at any given time, either...

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.mynameisdigo

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

OMG PLZ TELL ME YUO WERE NOT SERIOUS POSTING THAT! Accetping a game review as unbiased gospel from Yahtzee would be like accepting Rush Limpballs version of Obama's state of the union address!

And if YUO WERE SERIOUS can I hold you to that after his forthcoming review of your beloved KZ2?

TC does have a point. the quality of th former exclusives werent impressive. one cant help but think they've been diluted by going multi just a thought. DMC4 was not as good as it should have been, same with POP, dont get your hopes up for tekken and ff13.

TC does have a point. the quality of th former exclusives werent impressive. one cant help but think they've been diluted by going multi just a thought. DMC4 was not as good as it should have been, same with POP, dont get your hopes up for tekken and ff13.

Zaibach

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

TC does have a point. the quality of th former exclusives werent impressive. one cant help but think they've been diluted by going multi just a thought. DMC4 was not as good as it should have been, same with POP, dont get your hopes up for tekken and ff13.

Skittles_McGee

DMC was like GTA - timed exclusive for the PlayStation. Thus they were initially developed for Sony's console and then ported.

Yes, DMC4 is a VERY good example of what the article is about too.

DAYUMN, tekken is out soon... I hope it won't have the same faith.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.mynameisdigo

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

That is without a doubt, absolutely, 100% the DUMBEST article I have read in a long time. Seriously, I feel stupiderer for dun readin it.

The_Game21x

I dun red it too. My Intellimagents dun gone and disapperated. I'm gonna red a book or somethin else on these internets nao to get them bak.

*The_Game21x reads something that was intelligently written*

Ah, there we go, my IQ has returned. Seriously, that article was filled with all kinds of backwards logic and contradictions.

Did the writer of that article ever stop to think that Rockstar didn't improve the visuals of TLAD because they didn't deem it necessary and not because GTA IV in its current form is all the 360 could handle? Nope, because that would've made sense.

And I guess no one told him that GTA IV runs at a higher resolution on the 360 with more AA and has a consistently higher framerate at any given time, either...

People are just mad that since the Xbox 360's architecture has been considered easier to work with, several developers who are on the multiplatform-wagon use Microsoft's console as a base. They assume that if it was the other way around, games such as GTAIV would be much more then what they are now(regardless if they're AAA or not) simply because of the "PS3 power". I won't agree with it, but I'm going to keep a opened mind.

Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII is really the only game that could prove them wrong or right when it releases in North America. But of course the game's 3D engine is highly compatible with the PC and the Xbox 360 much like the PS3. In fact SE's next MMORPG which is only coming to the PC and Xbox 360 is using Crystal Tools. Still, Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 could overshadow the Xbox 360 version in performance. OR! The Xbox 360 version could simply prove that its friendly architecture makes Final Fantasy XIII run smooth.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="speedsix"]

That is without a doubt, absolutely, 100% the DUMBEST article I have read in a long time. Seriously, I feel stupiderer for dun readin it.

NeoGen85

I dun red it too. My Intellimagents dun gone and disapperated. I'm gonna red a book or somethin else on these internets nao to get them bak.

*The_Game21x reads something that was intelligently written*

Ah, there we go, my IQ has returned. Seriously, that article was filled with all kinds of backwards logic and contradictions.

Did the writer of that article ever stop to think that Rockstar didn't improve the visuals of TLAD because they didn't deem it necessary and not because GTA IV in its current form is all the 360 could handle? Nope, because that would've made sense.

And I guess no one told him that GTA IV runs at a higher resolution on the 360 with more AA and has a consistently higher framerate at any given time, either...

People are just mad that since the Xbox 360's architecture has been considered easier to work with, several developers who are on the multiplatform-wagon use Microsoft's console as a base. They assume that if it was the other way around, games such as GTAIV would be much more then what they are now(regardless if they're AAA or not) simply because of the "PS3 power". I won't agree with it, but I'm going to keep a opened mind.

Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII is really the only game that could prove them wrong or right when it releases in North America. But of course the game's 3D engine is highly compatible with the PC and the Xbox 360 much like the PS3. In fact SE's next MMORPG which is only coming to the PC and Xbox 360 is using Crystal Tools. Still, Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 could overshadow the Xbox 360 version in performance. OR! The Xbox 360 version could simply prove that its friendly architecture makes Final Fantasy XIII run smooth.

That... makes sense. We shall see comrade.

[QUOTE="mynameisdigo"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Wouldn't it be just as much Sony's fault as MS's fault? And its not like GTA IV got great reviews or anything....

oh wait, its one of the top rated games of all time on both platforms.shadow_hosi

Not according to most non-biased reviewers. Zero Punctuation just to name one.

Not everything. Saints Row 2?

2 years l8r there will be a final fantasy thread lke this lol :D

and no! for those saying that gta4 scored tens and stuff means nothing! about half the people who played gta4 thinks that it sucks!

san andreas was better, no san andreas IS better

I'm no fan of Microsoft, far from it, but maybe it's Rockstar that should be blamed.Floppy_Jim

and no! for those saying that gta4 scored tens and stuff means nothing! about half the people who played gta4 thinks that it sucks!

san andreas was better, no san andreas IS better

Generalmojo

I'd take the opinion of one professional review over the opinion of 1,000,000 rabid fanboys any day of the week.

i dont know... i kind of see where he is getting at. the ps3 really is proving that it is capable of much more lately...pooka216

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I'm no fan of Microsoft, far from it, but maybe it's Rockstar that should be blamed.rofflecopter_