The 360 is set to have a great year in 2007 no doubt , but beyond ?

Could we see an industry shift in excitement over to the ps3 after 2007 ? Will the 360 after 2 years start feeling a bit stale in comparison ?

360 after 2007

- Franchises (some big) appearing on the console for the first time - Fable , Ninja Gaiden , possibly Banjo , maybe Jade Empire (rumored)

- Sequelitis - Gears of War 2 , PGR4 , Lost Planet and Dead rising 2 (rumored). The makers of DOA 4, Mass Effect ,Too Human , Forza 2, Halo3, will probably go on to do sequels.

- New IPs ? I can't think of any.

I guess there will be some decent PC games like Alan Wake here and there but they aren't exclusive.

ps3 after 2007

- 3 major returning franchise system sellers appearing in next-gen for the first time in - Metal Gear Solid 4 , Final Fantasy XIII , Gran Turismo 5 , and another very large game to get excited about in God of War III. :shock: Those 4 will generate major interest.

- Other big games the industry will be talking about making their next-gen debuts in - Tekken 6 , Killzone 2 , the next Socom and other Sony franchises that can be tapped into like Jak and Daxter.

- New IPs - White Night Story , Eight Days , Uncharted possibly in 2008 , 2 Team ICO games (rumored)

plus FF Versus XIII

Even sheep should be a little worried if SSBB , Super Mario Galaxy , and Metroid Prime 3 all release in 2007. I know there will be a next gen Mario Kart , Animal Crossing , and a few other decent Nintendo franchises here and there ... but the new IPs will basically be the "wii" line games with a few hopes and dreams. I think the best thing they can hope for to get to the same level as the ps3 will be the hopes of getting Kingdom Hearts III , Dragon Quest X , and some exciting new IPs.

Thoughts ?

I don't think we can really predict anything, because new games will be announced at e3, so of course we don't know of any now.

I could be wrong, but I think it's too early to say that afterwards any console will get stale.

All three of the consoles' futures look positive in some way shape or form.

I disagree, and I'll you why. First, the 360 continues to gain marketshare over PS3. With higher development costs, 360 will continue to have the broadest, and more stellar line up of games. In the next year, you will see 360 start to make heavy hitting multi-plat titles into 360 exclusives. At the same time you will see more traditional PS exclusives either go multi-plat or just get cancelled all together.

The addition of mmorpg's, and Huxley (mmofps) slowly trickling in going into '08, and the addition of IPTV will solidify the 360 as the winner over the PS3.

I disagree, and I'll you why. First, the 360 continues to gain marketshare over PS3. With higher development costs, 360 will continue to have the broadest, and more stellar line up of games. In the next year, you will see 360 start to make heavy hitting multi-plat titles into 360 exclusives. At the same time you will see more traditional PS exclusives either go multi-plat or just get cancelled all together.

The addition of mmorpg's, and Huxley (mmofps) slowly trickling in going into '08, and the addition of IPTV will solidify the 360 as the winner over the PS3.

bluebrad1974

IPTV is a loser in my book. Im fine with buying DVD's and Blu-Rays....AND I dont want to spend the ridiculous price of $180 on a new Hard Drive for my 360 to make IPTV even useful to begin with.

Also, what are these "more traditional" PS Exclusives that will go multi-plat? MOST of Sony's exclusives are 1st & 2nd party. The only exceptions being MGS, FF, DMC & Tekken. Everything else that Sony has banged out for success has been 1st or 2nd party. Gran Turismo, Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, God of War, Sly Cooper, Twisted Metal, Warhawk, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, MotorStorm, Ico, SingStar, SOCOM, WipEout, LittleBigPlanet, LocoRoco, Killzone, Syphon Filter, Destruction Derby, Shadow of the Colossus, MLB: The Show, Uncharted, Hot Shots Golf etc etc.

My thoughts... do fanboys forget the year is not over, new games are no doubt being worked on, that we don't know about, so until E3 or whatever the new event is, has passed... then say something. Devs don't announce their next year line up until it's about ready to show off, which is what E3 usually prevented and shows like TGS showed more.

Also, the "PC/360" ordeal of exclusive or not is something I find redundant when it's still a game not on the other consoles....

Could we see an industry shift in excitement over to the ps3 after 2007 ? Will the 360 after 2 years start feeling a bit stale in comparison ?

360 after 2007

- Franchises (some big) appearing on the console for the first time - Fable , Ninja Gaiden , maybe Jade Empire (rumored)

- Sequelitis - Gears of War 2 , PGR4 , Lost Planet and Dead rising 2 (rumored). The makers of DOA 4, Mass Effect ,Too Human , Forza 2, Halo3, will probably go on to do sequels.

- New IPs ? I can't think of any.

I guess there will be some decent PC games like Alan Wake here and there but they aren't exclusive.

ps3 after 2007

- 3 major returning franchise system sellers appearing in next-gen for the first time in - Metal Gear Solid 4 , Final Fantasy XIII , Gran Turismo 5 , and another very large game to get excited about in God of War III. :shock: Those 4 will generate major interest.

- Other big games the industry will be talking about making their next-gen debuts in - Tekken 6 , Killzone 2 , the next Socom and other Sony franchises that can be tapped into like Jak and Daxter.

- New IPs - White Night Story , Eight Days , Uncharted possibly in 2008 , 2 Team ICO games (rumored)

plus FF Versus XIII

Even sheep should be a little worried if SSBB , Super Mario Galaxy , and Metroid Prime 3 all release in 2007. I know there will be a next gen Mario Kart , Animal Crossing , and a few other decent Nintendo franchises here and there ... but the new IPs will basically be the "wii" line games with a few hopes and dreams. I think the best thing they can hope for to get to the same level as the ps3 will be the hopes of getting Kingdom Hearts III , Dragon Quest X , and some exciting new IPs.

Thoughts ?

 

 

Nike_Air

great post you make sence but remember  Rare is making banjo, they can still make battletoads, killer instint and more new IP.

kingdom under fire, fable 2, halo wars, ninja gaiden 2, the DOA5, gears of war 2, too human is a trilogy, atlus rpg, blue dragon is a trilogy. pgr4 is in the making, alan awake and more stuff.

2008 is bright for 360 still.. 

Yeah the beyond is where 360 could start having big problems. Halo3 and Mass Effect will certainly be a huge boost but 08 is prettymuch PC port year while PS3 gets tons of exclusives. 360 has really already completely tapped Xbox's previous fanbase and there's not much new that really stands out that would gain more fans. Unless 360 just explodes somehow this Holiday season and PS3 remains stagnant even with the really good games coming out for it, 360 will have prettymuch burned out its potential games and userbase.

And I'm pretty sure Lost Planet2 and Dead Rising2 were already confirmed to be multiplat...... only reason they were 360 exclusive in the first place was because it came out earlier.

oh btw forza and mass effect are coming this year.beldugo

Could we see an industry shift in excitement over to the ps3 after 2007 ? Will the 360 after 2 years start feeling a bit stale in comparison ?

360 after 2007

- Franchises (some big) appearing on the console for the first time - Fable , Ninja Gaiden , maybe Jade Empire (rumored)

- Sequelitis - Gears of War 2 , PGR4 , Lost Planet and Dead rising 2 (rumored). The makers of DOA 4, Mass Effect ,Too Human , Forza 2, Halo3, will probably go on to do sequels.

- New IPs ? I can't think of any.

I guess there will be some decent PC games like Alan Wake here and there but they aren't exclusive.

ps3 after 2007

- 3 major returning franchise system sellers appearing in next-gen for the first time in - Metal Gear Solid 4 , Final Fantasy XIII , Gran Turismo 5 , and another very large game to get excited about in God of War III. :shock: Those 4 will generate major interest.

- Other big games the industry will be talking about making their next-gen debuts in - Tekken 6 , Killzone 2 , the next Socom and other Sony franchises that can be tapped into like Jak and Daxter.

- New IPs - White Night Story , Eight Days , Uncharted possibly in 2008 , 2 Team ICO games (rumored)

plus FF Versus XIII

Even sheep should be a little worried if SSBB , Super Mario Galaxy , and Metroid Prime 3 all release in 2007. I know there will be a next gen Mario Kart , Animal Crossing , and a few other decent Nintendo franchises here and there ... but the new IPs will basically be the "wii" line games with a few hopes and dreams. I think the best thing they can hope for to get to the same level as the ps3 will be the hopes of getting Kingdom Hearts III , Dragon Quest X , and some exciting new IPs.

Thoughts ?

 

 

Nike_Air

You do understand that 2007 games alone for 360, destroy any game in 2008 for PS3, bar FF13 and MGS4 and MAYBE Killzone 2 if it is not garbage

Two Words

Elveon

Overlord

Circle of Doom

Bioshock

Eternal Sonata

To Human

Blue Dragon

Lost oDyssey

Halo 3

Ace Combat 6

Naruto RPG

Dark Messiah of M&M

Flatout Carnage

And those are the tip of the iceberg

2008 ONLY on 360

Fable 2

Alan Wake

Cry On

Infinite Undiscovery

Theseis

Precursors

Mass Effect 2

Gears of War 2

2ond Bioware 360 only RPG in the making

Banjo

Halo Wars

Sacred 2

Project Offset (might be on PS3 too)

Fallout 3 (might be on PS3 too)

Too Human 2

etc

I think 360 is doing fine. Its getting good games while its sales continue to keep the PS3 at bay.

Wii is doing fine in sales and I expect some nice 3rd Party games to be announced. It already has more games out then the PS3 its only a matter of time before the games it gets are good.

You abandon your core demographic and look where you put yourself. Last place, enough said. Great games are coming but I still don't see the average consumer buying such an expensive console period. My logic has proved that theory so far but only time will tell. 

[QUOTE="beldugo"]oh btw forza and mass effect are coming this year.yoshi_64

like i said on my first post he miss -   banjo 3, kingdom under fire, blue dragon is trilogy, too human is trilogy, gears is a trilogy, halo wars, atlus rpg.

rare still can make battletoads, killer instint, Perfect dark 2, that adventure game and more new ips. 

ninja gaiden 2, doa 5, fable 2, alan awake,  pgr4 and more, thats just off the top of my head.

i would love to see a 99 nights 2..  if they put more work into that game, more CS, more story, more combos, more army, more characters, with some strategy from KUF it would be the best of the best.

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="beldugo"]oh btw forza and mass effect are coming this year.beldugo

like i said on my first post he miss -   banjo 3, kingdom under fire, blue dragon is trilogy, too human is trilogy, gears is a trilogy, halo wars, atlus rpg.

rare still can make battletoads, killer instint, Perfect dark 2, that adventure game and more new ips. 

ninja gaiden 2, doa 5, fable 2, alan awake,  pgr4 and more, thats just off the top of my head.

             Yikes is what comes to mind lol - I'll be nice and only state a few:

                                                Gears 2

                                                Fable 2

                                                M.E. 2 & 3

                                                Blue Dragon 2

                                                Halo Wars

Oh I was going to go on but you know; those I've listed speak volumes. ;)

I disagree, and I'll you why. First, the 360 continues to gain marketshare over PS3. I see the ps3 keeping pace worldwide right now without games and then closing the gap here and there with big game releases that are important worldwide.With higher development costs, 360 will continue to have the broadest, and more stellar line up of games.The develoment costs are negligable in comparison with the ps3. Once they learn the hardware they will be all set. In the next year, you will see 360 start to make heavy hitting multi-plat titles into 360 exclusives.Like Splinter Cell 5 ? Oh wait , that is probably going to PC anyway. Until that happens it is speculation. At the same time you will see more traditional PS exclusives either go multi-plat or just get cancelled all together.There isn't much left to take.If the 360 can't get MGS4 and "the" major FF game then they will suffer in that respect. On the other hand , franchises once thought to be xbox exclusives are moving over too (NG) so that will bring balance to some lost exclusives. 

The addition of mmorpg's, and Huxley (mmofps) slowly trickling in going into '08, and the addition of IPTV will solidify the 360 as the winner over the PS3.That would be like me saying just wait for SOE games on the PS3 and blu-ray will solidify the ps3 as the winner over the 360.That doesn't sound reallistic when you play it back does it ?

bluebrad1974

[QUOTE="beldugo"]oh btw forza and mass effect are coming this year.yoshi_64

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="beldugo"]oh btw forza and mass effect are coming this year.yoshi_64

like i said on my first post he miss - banjo 3, kingdom under fire, blue dragon is trilogy, too human is trilogy, gears is a trilogy, halo wars, atlus rpg.

rare still can make battletoads, killer instint, Perfect dark 2, that adventure game and more new ips.

ninja gaiden 2, doa 5, fable 2, alan awake, pgr4 and more, thats just off the top of my head.

thats why i put them in a different line but we all know they are been made as of now. already confirm except for KI and PD2..

i bet they will make them though specially PD2.. i don't know about killer instint and battletoads. 

[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]

I disagree, and I'll you why. First, the 360 continues to gain marketshare over PS3. I see the ps3 keeping pace worldwide right now without games and then closing the gap here and there with big game releases that are important worldwide.With higher development costs, 360 will continue to have the broadest, and more stellar line up of games.The develoment costs are negligable in comparison with the ps3. Once they learn the hardware they will be all set. In the next year, you will see 360 start to make heavy hitting multi-plat titles into 360 exclusives.Like Splinter Cell 5 ? Oh wait , that is probably going to PC anyway. Until that happens it is speculation. At the same time you will see more traditional PS exclusives either go multi-plat or just get cancelled all together.There isn't much left to take.If the 360 can't get MGS4 and "the" major FF game then they will suffer in that respect. On the other hand , franchises once thought to be xbox exclusives are moving over too (NG) so that will bring balance to some lost exclusives. 

The addition of mmorpg's, and Huxley (mmofps) slowly trickling in going into '08, and the addition of IPTV will solidify the 360 as the winner over the PS3.That would be like me saying just wait for SOE games on the PS3 and blu-ray will solidify the ps3 as the winner over the 360.That doesn't sound reallistic when you play it back does it ?

Nike_Air

I disagree with the notion that the 360 is having a great 2007. It's doing poorly right now especially in worldwide sales and it has barely passed the 10 million sold mark. There are some great games that will help it at the end of the year, but overall, this is shaping up to be a poor year for MS.Zhengi

I agree. The 360 was not built to last. It has a bit of life left in the form of halo mass effect and huxley, crysis too. but after that i think the shoddiness of the hardware will be even more evident as time goes on.

also the 360 has proven with the relaease of the elite that it is really lagging behind. IT DOENST HAVE WIRELESS AND THE DS DOES!!!

I mean the drawing point for the 360s users is amazing grapjics and hd! the Ps3 trumps the 360 in these areas, oir at least will do very soon.

The 360s online is right now the best. But it is way too expensive, i mean $1 is tooo expensive. with home coming i think that online, the last advantage of the 360 over the ps3, will be ibeaten, if not then at least the gap will be closely bridged.

All this and more leave the 360 with no long term foreseeable future.Mayber this box's failure can be used to Microsofts advantage and they can gain a two year headstart next time which might be enough to see the worste console win the next next gen war.

At the same time you will see more traditional PS exclusives either go multi-plat or just get cancelled all together.

bluebrad1974

Terrible post.

Sony has so many awesome 1st party games to fall back on--MGS4 is never going to be on the 360, and neither is FFXIII: so what do you have left? 

2007 is the year of the 360. This means that it will sell the most consoles and continue to be the market leader. That means developers will flock to the 360, thus making more games on 360. That means the best library will be on 360. This all means that the 360 will win this generation. Sony will fall out of the gaming business this generation, and Nintendo will survive on handheld sales.Berserker_2

 ps3 i see it coming strong with games in 2008 but still the money is too much for a gaming machine, they won't sell that well. 360 will stay for more than 6 years and thats good enough time for a console.. it's doing 10x better than xbox 1.

zeldred - we just got command and conquer, eternal sonata, forza 2 and area51 demo.. if paying 50 a year for it it's what it take to  play demo that fast i would gladly pay it. it's just like a demo + magazine subscription with all the videos and trailers. 

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Could we see an industry shift in excitement over to the ps3 after 2007 ? Will the 360 after 2 years start feeling a bit stale in comparison ?

360 after 2007

- Franchises (some big) appearing on the console for the first time - Fable , Ninja Gaiden , maybe Jade Empire (rumored)

- Sequelitis - Gears of War 2 , PGR4 , Lost Planet and Dead rising 2 (rumored). The makers of DOA 4, Mass Effect ,Too Human , Forza 2, Halo3, will probably go on to do sequels.

- New IPs ? I can't think of any.

I guess there will be some decent PC games like Alan Wake here and there but they aren't exclusive.

ps3 after 2007

- 3 major returning franchise system sellers appearing in next-gen for the first time in - Metal Gear Solid 4 , Final Fantasy XIII , Gran Turismo 5 , and another very large game to get excited about in God of War III. :shock: Those 4 will generate major interest.

- Other big games the industry will be talking about making their next-gen debuts in - Tekken 6 , Killzone 2 , the next Socom and other Sony franchises that can be tapped into like Jak and Daxter.

- New IPs - White Night Story , Eight Days , Uncharted possibly in 2008 , 2 Team ICO games (rumored)

plus FF Versus XIII

Even sheep should be a little worried if SSBB , Super Mario Galaxy , and Metroid Prime 3 all release in 2007. I know there will be a next gen Mario Kart , Animal Crossing , and a few other decent Nintendo franchises here and there ... but the new IPs will basically be the "wii" line games with a few hopes and dreams. I think the best thing they can hope for to get to the same level as the ps3 will be the hopes of getting Kingdom Hearts III , Dragon Quest X , and some exciting new IPs.

Thoughts ?

 

 

greg_splicer

You do understand that 2007 games alone for 360, destroy any game in 2008 for PS3, bar FF13 and MGS4 and MAYBE Killzone 2 if it is not garbage

Two Words

Elveon

Overlord

Circle of Doom

Bioshock

Eternal Sonata

To Human

Blue Dragon

Lost oDyssey

Halo 3

Ace Combat 6

Naruto RPG

Dark Messiah of M&M

Flatout Carnage

And those are the tip of the iceberg

2008 ONLY on 360

Fable 2

Alan Wake

Cry On

Infinite Undiscovery

Theseis

Precursors

Mass Effect 2

Gears of War 2

2ond Bioware 360 only RPG in the making

Banjo

Halo Wars

Sacred 2

Project Offset (might be on PS3 too)

Fallout 3 (might be on PS3 too)

Too Human 2

etc

PS3 does have FF13 though, making it a must buy, even if it is one game