The 360 is the fad now, but what will it be like in a few years from now?

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#1 NYrockinlegend
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Honestly, I can say that the 360 isn't going to last, or stay strong, over the next few years. It's just outdated hardware(HD-DVD? Blu-ray is the accepted medium, and it'll continue to grow through the next few years to come), inferior in comparison to the PS3. That being said, the Wii doesn't seem to make sales well at all right now with their games(Wii Music only sold about 80,000 copies worldwide; tough break for an overhyped, over-marketed game- quite a loss for Nintendo), so that'll be the first to go down, possibly with another Nintendo console to be released. The PS3 is having a rough time right now due to economic regression, and people not willing to spend a lot on expensive hardware. But the way I see it, as Blu-ray sales increase year after year(I didn't actually know about the capabilities of it until 08, and that was where it has grown most in the movie and gaming industry), and as people see how much movies are enhanced in blu-ray format, they may also see the difference of games in blu-ray. And I think I see Sony benifiting quite a bit from continued steady sales(I say steady because they aren't through the roof, but not terrible either-generally acceptable as it's not the only focus of the vast company who also manufactures other electronics such as TVs or computers). That being said, if the quality of games can keep up(and it looks pretty good with games like Killzone 2, inFamous and Uncharted 2 coming out soon, showing great potential of the PS3's superior hardware, with some more quality titles on the way). If these games can truly display the superior power of games in blu-ray format, then the PS3 would benefit as movies are already transitioning to the blu-ray format in many cases. The 360 will probably still be around, like DVD, so that Sony doesn't completely annhilate the competition(the 360 and DVD will probably still be around for quite a while). Now, I can't quite say if this would happen, but it could happen, and this is my prediction. My guess right now is that the 360 is just what's in right now, like iPods and iPhones, that, just like all other fads, are most likely to end at a certain time.

I've had thoughts of purchasing a 360 for games like Gears and Alan Wake, but I went against it because it doesn't seem to have much lasting value like the PS3 could when it benefits from blu-ray sales. Not a Sony fanboy, but with growing awareness of blu-ray tech, this is what I envision. However, anything could happen. 360 may be the system for low-budget games because it's affordable, and also for those devs looking for more profit(it's receiving more and more exclusive DLC right now, so that's what keeps it strong other than being widely accepted by the public in gaming). The PS3 could well dominate THIS year, but it will depend on Sony's decisions with their powerhouse console. Judgement would most likely start with whether Killzone 2 is known to the public and does it deliver.

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#2 rybe1025
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I agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console and I also agree with the Tc that thankfully the PS3rd is in last place.
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#3 st1ka
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i'd say the 360's lasting value is as good as the PS3's (RROD aside that is)
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#4 GodofBigMacs
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I'm pretty sure the Wii is a fad now... since it's the cool and hardcore money making thing to do.
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#5 BioShockOwnz
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Xbox 360 is a fad? :lol: Errr, no. It is what it is, and that's certainly not a fad.

Xbox 360 will last an entire generation, and it'll be very successful.

It's time to admit that Microsoft is a big contender in the gaming biz. Xbox 360 has solidified their dominance when it comes to hardcore gaming.

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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console and I also agree with the Tc that thankfully the PS3rd is in last place.Dark_Torment

Are you stupid or did you just not read his post? He didn't say anything about the "best console" or that he was thankful that the PS3 is in last place. By the way, it is PS3, not PS3rd.

Lemmings can be so stupid sometimes.

I am just trying to agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console. There is no reason to be angry at me since he made the post.

Blame him for making a thread about the PS3rd being in last place and how it is a good thing.

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#8 ActicEdge
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The 360 is not a fad. That's so rediculous, it'll last the whole gen, if any console dies off this gen, It will probably be the wii due to weak hardware and I seriously doubt that its going to die off either. Topic Creator, you should try looking up facts about your points instead of telling us your opinion, It'll get you further in an arguement.

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I'm pretty sure the Wii is a fad now... since it's the cool and hardcore money making thing to do. GodofBigMacs
Yeah, that would be it. I think the 360 will last as long as the PS3, just not as strongly towards the end of it's lifetime. But let's see what Sony has to say for their console this year, and whether it delivers or not. They've got the slight advantage, as the 360 is kinda in a slump for powerhouse titles, but if they don't take a stand for their console, the 360 and Wii will continue selling their games anyway, low-budget(devs looking only for profit will make it for most likely this system) and all. Well, we all know that the Wii is in 1st, though that's very likely to change soon, in like the course of maybe 1 or 2 years, where 360 will likely steal the competition, but PS3 may strengthen as well. I've also heard that Killzone 2 is going to be marketed like crazy(as indicated in a Sony employee on the PS Blog), so we'll see how that goes.
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#10 Dark_Torment
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[QUOTE="Dark_Torment"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console and I also agree with the Tc that thankfully the PS3rd is in last place.rybe1025

Are you stupid or did you just not read his post? He didn't say anything about the "best console" or that he was thankful that the PS3 is in last place. By the way, it is PS3, not PS3rd.

Lemmings can be so stupid sometimes.

I am just trying to agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console. There is no reason to be angry at me since he made the post.

Blame him for making a thread about the PS3rd being in last place and how it is a good thing.

If you even read his post you would realize that in no way was he favoring the Xbox 360, and even went so far as to call it inferior in comparison to the Playstation 3. He said it was a "fad" but he didn't say that it was the 'best' console, as you are doing your best to imagine. He even feels that the Playstation 3 is mainly in last place because of it's price.

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#12 tOtalPWNaAe
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I agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console and I also agree with the Tc that thankfully the PS3rd is in last place.rybe1025
i agree with you superb game library and solid online
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[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]I'm pretty sure the Wii is a fad now... since it's the cool and hardcore money making thing to do. NYrockinlegend
Yeah, that would be it. I think the 360 will last as long as the PS3, just not as strongly towards the end of it's lifetime. But let's see what Sony has to say for their console this year, and whether it delivers or not. They've got the slight advantage, as the 360 is kinda in a slump for powerhouse titles, but if they don't take a stand for their console, the 360 and Wii will continue selling their games anyway, low-budget(devs looking only for profit will make it for most likely this system) and all. Well, we all know that the Wii is in 1st, though that's very likely to change soon, in like the course of maybe 1 or 2 years, where 360 will likely steal the competition, but PS3 may strengthen as well. I've also heard that Killzone 2 is going to be marketed like crazy(as indicated in a Sony employee on the PS Blog), so we'll see how that goes.

There are even advertisements in the movies as of now for Killzone 2. From what I can remember, Sony has never done that before for a Playstation 3 game. People have also seen them in a Gameinformer magazine, and at the GameFAQs site.

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[QUOTE="Dark_Torment"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console and I also agree with the Tc that thankfully the PS3rd is in last place.Synthetic_NinJI

Are you stupid or did you just not read his post? He didn't say anything about the "best console" or that he was thankful that the PS3 is in last place. By the way, it is PS3, not PS3rd.

EDIT: He even said that the 360 was inferior in comparison to the PS3...

Lemmings can be so stupid sometimes.

:lol:

he is either joking or major lol at him:lol:
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well people think that because of the name 'Playstation' its hard to believe that it wont come out top, but i honestly believe theyve blown it and the 360 will last longer mainly because more and more people are getting it.
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#17 Dark_Torment
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@rybe1025

If you were using sarcasm, I had not realized it and I give you my apologies.

If not, disregard this comment as my statement still stands.

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#18 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="Dark_Torment"]

Are you stupid or did you just not read his post? He didn't say anything about the "best console" or that he was thankful that the PS3 is in last place. By the way, it is PS3, not PS3rd.

EDIT: He even said that the 360 was inferior in comparison to the PS3...

Lemmings can be so stupid sometimes.

tOtalPWNaAe

:lol:

he is either joking or major lol at him:lol:

I was being sarcastic. It is pretty funny and sad some could not grasp that like you did.

I did not bother reading a wall of text from someone calling the 360 a fad with a MGS avatar. I knew what kind of post it would be.

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The same couldn't been said in '02 - '03 about the PS2 vs. the XBOX, yet the PS2 has long outlived any of the 3 of that gen.
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#20 st1ka
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console and I also agree with the Tc that thankfully the PS3rd is in last place.Dark_Torment

Are you stupid or did you just not read his post? He didn't say anything about the "best console" or that he was thankful that the PS3 is in last place. By the way, it is PS3, not PS3rd.

EDIT: He even said that the 360 was inferior in comparison to the PS3...

Lemmings can be so stupid sometimes.

oh wow :lol:
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#21 Dark_Torment
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Then my apologies. There was a lack of evidence of sarcasm and I took it the wrong way. I guess I just suspected that people can be quite stupid on these boards. Sometimes even including myself (to a degree :P).
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Then my apologies. There was a lack of evidence of sarcasm and I took it the wrong way. I guess I just suspected that people can be quite stupid on these boards. Sometimes even including myself (to a degree :P).Dark_Torment
It is cool bro :)
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#23 Synthetic_NinJI
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Then my apologies. There was a lack of evidence of sarcasm and I took it the wrong way. I guess I just suspected that people can be quite stupid on these boards. Sometimes even including myself (to a degree :P).Dark_Torment
Atleast you can admit self-ownage, good job.
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#24 Dark_Torment
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I knew that if I left that last sentence out someone would have pointed out that I would be included so I would have been owned anyway. :)
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Honestly, I can say that the 360 isn't going to last, or stay strong, over the next few years. It's just outdated hardware(HD-DVD? Blu-ray is the accepted medium, and it'll continue to grow through the next few years to come), inferior in comparison to the PS3. That being said, the Wii doesn't seem to make sales well at all right now with their games(Wii Music only sold about 80,000 copies worldwide; tough break for an overhyped, over-marketed game- quite a loss for Nintendo), so that'll be the first to go down, possibly with another Nintendo console to be released. The PS3 is having a rough time right now due to economic regression, and people not willing to spend a lot on expensive hardware. But the way I see it, as Blu-ray sales increase year after year(I didn't actually know about the capabilities of it until 08, and that was where it has grown most in the movie and gaming industry), and as people see how much movies are enhanced in blu-ray format, they may also see the difference of games in blu-ray. And I think I see Sony benifiting quite a bit from continued steady sales(I say steady because they aren't through the roof, but not terrible either-generally acceptable as it's not the only focus of the vast company who also manufactures other electronics such as TVs or computers). That being said, if the quality of games can keep up(and it looks pretty good with games like Killzone 2, inFamous and Uncharted 2 coming out soon, showing great potential of the PS3's superior hardware, with some more quality titles on the way). If these games can truly display the superior power of games in blu-ray format, then the PS3 would benefit as movies are already transitioning to the blu-ray format in many cases. The 360 will probably still be around, like DVD, so that Sony doesn't completely annhilate the competition(the 360 and DVD will probably still be around for quite a while). Now, I can't quite say if this would happen, but it could happen, and this is my prediction. My guess right now is that the 360 is just what's in right now, like iPods and iPhones, that, just like all other fads, are most likely to end at a certain time.

NYrockinlegend


The PS3 does not have superior hardware though. It's pretty much equal with the 360.
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#26 Dark_Torment
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[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"]

of the PS3's superior hardware

Faber_Fighter



The PS3 does not have superior hardware though. It's pretty much equal with the 360.

That's statement is moot...

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[QUOTE="Faber_Fighter"][QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"]

Honestly, I can say that the 360 isn't going to last, or stay strong, over the next few years. It's just outdated hardware(HD-DVD? Blu-ray is the accepted medium, and it'll continue to grow through the next few years to come), inferior in comparison to the PS3. That being said, the Wii doesn't seem to make sales well at all right now with their games(Wii Music only sold about 80,000 copies worldwide; tough break for an overhyped, over-marketed game- quite a loss for Nintendo), so that'll be the first to go down, possibly with another Nintendo console to be released. The PS3 is having a rough time right now due to economic regression, and people not willing to spend a lot on expensive hardware. But the way I see it, as Blu-ray sales increase year after year(I didn't actually know about the capabilities of it until 08, and that was where it has grown most in the movie and gaming industry), and as people see how much movies are enhanced in blu-ray format, they may also see the difference of games in blu-ray. And I think I see Sony benifiting quite a bit from continued steady sales(I say steady because they aren't through the roof, but not terrible either-generally acceptable as it's not the only focus of the vast company who also manufactures other electronics such as TVs or computers). That being said, if the quality of games can keep up(and it looks pretty good with games like Killzone 2, inFamous and Uncharted 2 coming out soon, showing great potential of the PS3's superior hardware, with some more quality titles on the way). If these games can truly display the superior power of games in blu-ray format, then the PS3 would benefit as movies are already transitioning to the blu-ray format in many cases. The 360 will probably still be around, like DVD, so that Sony doesn't completely annhilate the competition(the 360 and DVD will probably still be around for quite a while). Now, I can't quite say if this would happen, but it could happen, and this is my prediction. My guess right now is that the 360 is just what's in right now, like iPods and iPhones, that, just like all other fads, are most likely to end at a certain time.



The PS3 does not have superior hardware though. It's pretty much equal with the 360.

With the exception of the Blu-Ray drive and several other options that you AND Sony are paying for (with losses). Graphically though, they are pretty much identical with neither console showcasing a noticable advantage unlike previous generations (PSOne vs. N64, PS2 vs. XBOX, etc.) In fact, multiplatform games are actually better looking on the 360's hardware in most cases, due to development obstacles with Sony's Cell processor. It seems foolish to me for someone to see the 360 as being outlasted by the PS3. The PS2 was graphically and technologically inferior to all three of the consoles last gen, yet it has outlasted all of them by a long shot. The TC has absolutely no case here.
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#28 Zoso-8
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Actually, the Wii is the fad now. /thread
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@Johnny-n-Roger

The PS2's vast library was focused mainly on casual gamers. The 360 also has a pretty vast library, but it is mostly for hardcore gamers instead. The Wii fit your comparison perfectly, being both graphically and technically inferior, yet it's success is based pretty much entirely on the fact that it is easier for a casual gamer to pick up.

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So basically just wait for the 360 fad to be over? In a couple years wouldn't the next generation be out....
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#31 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Dark_Torment"]

@Johnny-n-Roger

Yes, but the same thing doesn't always happen twice.

Obviously, but to claim that the exact opposite will happen is alot less likely.
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With the ps3 coming out one year late and having to wait 4 years for any AAAA title to come out they are 3 years behind the competition. There only hope is to crank out the games every 2 years or dont even bother. Do you really want too keep waiting 4 years for good games
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I'm pretty sure the Wii is a fad now... since it's the cool and hardcore money making thing to do. GodofBigMacs

I agree.

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So basically just wait for the 360 fad to be over? In a couple years wouldn't the next generation be out....Minishdriveby

Good point.

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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I agree with the TC that the 360 is the best console and I also agree with the Tc that thankfully the PS3rd is in last place.Dark_Torment

Are you stupid or did you just not read his post? He didn't say anything about the "best console" or that he was thankful that the PS3 is in last place. By the way, it is PS3, not PS3rd.

EDIT: He even said that the 360 was inferior in comparison to the PS3...

Lemmings can be so stupid sometimes.

Trolled
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To me, what it is, just a part of this day and age's generation in gaming consoles. Just like the Atari, ColecoVision and Intellivision, just like the NES and Megadrive, SNES and Genesis, list goes on. This isn't any different from what that was.
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#37 Chiddaling
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"The 360 is a fad now"

Lolwut?

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#38 EndorphinMaster
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This stuff again?
PS3 was supposed to crush the 360 when it launched
PS3 was supposed to overtake 360's lifetime sales in 07
PS3 was supposed to outsell 360 for the whole year in 08

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#39 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Dark_Torment"]

@Johnny-n-Roger

The PS2's vast library was focused mainly on casual gamers. The 360 also has a pretty vast library, but it is mostly for hardcore gamers instead. The Wii fit your comparison perfectly, being both graphically and technically inferior, yet it's success is based pretty much entirely on the fact that it is easier for a casual gamer to pick up.

There's a difference between casual gamers and wii gamers.
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#40 yoyo462001
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This stuff again?
PS3 was supposed to crush the 360 when it launched
PS3 was supposed to overtake 360's lifetime sales in 07
PS3 was supposed to outsell 360 for the whole year in 08

EndorphinMaster
this kind of stuff gets so old, there coming up with new things every time, and making threads to desperately show how the 360 will ultimately lose blah blah, its getting old imo.
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