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#1 akuma303x
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who ever has the best tool set to harness the power of that respective console. thats right ladies. the 360 and ps3 are only going to shine as much as the software allows the artist to manipulate all that power. I mean ID's RAGE looks like its impossible on todays consoles and yet 2 of them are getting it. it took ID less than 2 years to come up with an engine that nearly doubles what their last could do on the same hardware. so the argument about best graphics is pointless cause its about what you have to paint the canvas this gen, not the canvas itself as many fanboys are pointing out these days.
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wetardedd poost
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wetardedd poosttekmojo
yeah sure. to much to take in huh? thats ok, take some time with this bad boy, the truth is never easy.
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#4 LibertySaint
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yep soooo true.
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Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.
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Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.killzowned24
and that has anything to do with the topic how? it still will have to be installed on all platforms is my guess...unless we want bad loadings and lots of hdd chaching.
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.LibertySaint
and that has anything to do with the topic how? it still will have to be installed on all platforms is my guess...unless we want bad loadings and lots of hdd chaching.

thank you. who cares if it takes 3 dvd's. i got a ps3 as well and so far i gotta say bluray did what for gaming again? yes it makes pretty movies but does nothing for games that dvd cant do. now back to the topic the funny thing is how many people will disagree with me and not even notice why they are getting better looking games down the road instead of maxing the graphical capabilities right out of the box.
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The only REAL answer to the 360/PS3 graphical battle is exclusives. With exclusives you get a game developed from the start to finish on that console alone. Utilizing it as best as it can be. Only then is the hardware being used correctly.

It is obvious from all multiplats that judging graphical power off of them is pointless.

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The only REAL answer to the 360/PS3 graphical battle is exclusives. With exclusives you get a game developed from the start to finish on that console alone. Utilizing it as best as it can be. Only then is the hardware being used correctly.

It is obvious from all multiplats that judging graphical power off of them is pointless.

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then why do exclusives look better over time? is it just cause it's exclusive? or is it the software has improved allowing more to be taken out of the system thus allowing more for us to see on screen? once again all boils down to the software being made to take advantage of the hardware.
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.LibertySaint
and that has anything to do with the topic how? it still will have to be installed on all platforms is my guess...unless we want bad loadings and lots of hdd chaching.

Sony was right. Bluray will bring PS3 better games.

And how do you expect 360 to install when it doesnt come with a hard drive? the game will stream from the disc.

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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.killzowned24

and that has anything to do with the topic how? it still will have to be installed on all platforms is my guess...unless we want bad loadings and lots of hdd chaching.

Sony was right. Bluray will bring PS3 better games.

And how do you expect 360 to install when it doesnt come with a hard drive? the game will stream from the disc.

some games do require a Hard Drive on the 360 to play you know. and the PS3 still streams games off of disk even after an install.
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who ever has the best tool set to harness the power of that respective console. thats right ladies. the 360 and ps3 are only going to shine as much as the software allows the artist to manipulate all that power. I mean ID's RAGE looks like its impossible on todays consoles and yet 2 of them are getting it. it took ID less than 2 years to come up with an engine that nearly doubles what their last could do on the same hardware. so the argument about best graphics is pointless cause its about what you have to paint the canvas this gen, not the canvas itself as many fanboys are pointing out these days.akuma303x

Agreed! The power of these 2 consoles are too similar to have a decissive advantage... It's all up to progammers now...And quite frankly, I'm not complaining with graphical achievement on any of them...even if in general, the 360 offers more stable frame rate in multiplats...oops, with that said, some will jump on my back lol

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#13 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.akuma303x

and that has anything to do with the topic how? it still will have to be installed on all platforms is my guess...unless we want bad loadings and lots of hdd chaching.

Sony was right. Bluray will bring PS3 better games.

And how do you expect 360 to install when it doesnt come with a hard drive? the game will stream from the disc.

some games do require a Hard Drive on the 360 to play you know. and the PS3 still streams games off of disk even after an install.

what 360 games needs a HDD unless for online play? If so that is some good ownage for PS3 making the 360 core pointless compared.

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the correct answer is 'who cares' when you can enjoy both
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.killzowned24

and that has anything to do with the topic how? it still will have to be installed on all platforms is my guess...unless we want bad loadings and lots of hdd chaching.

Sony was right. Bluray will bring PS3 better games.

And how do you expect 360 to install when it doesnt come with a hard drive? the game will stream from the disc.

The Blu-Ray drive is slow and nothing Sony can do about that. Enjoy installing larger amounts of a game onto the PS3 HDD.

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.PS3_3DO

and that has anything to do with the topic how? it still will have to be installed on all platforms is my guess...unless we want bad loadings and lots of hdd chaching.

Sony was right. Bluray will bring PS3 better games.

And how do you expect 360 to install when it doesnt come with a hard drive? the game will stream from the disc.

The Blu-Ray drive is slow and nothing Sony can do about that. Enjoy installing larger amounts of a game onto the PS3 HDD.

I'll enjoy shorter loading times. In truth Blu-ray is just as fast as the drive in X360, thats why most games have the same or faster loading times on PS3 without install. And games like Uncharted can play start to finish with no loading times. See DVD only hits it's advertised speed at the outer edge of the disc where it spins fastest. Blu-ray reads at the same speed across the entire surface of the disk. Also DVD takes a big hit in performance with dual layer disks and DVD9 which all games for X360 use now.

X360 would have installs as well if Microsoft didn't have the arcade sku, they really stepped backward from last generation not including a Harddrive standard.

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Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.killzowned24

Congrats for fans of extreme laziness :|

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#18 PS3_3DO
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Dude the PS3 drive is slower then the DVD drive in the 360. Every dev has said this.

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To the TC.....developers can tinker around with games as much as they want but they will still hit a ceiling with the PS3 with its meager 256mb video memmory. Since the 360 can push further then that it will continue having better graphics.
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.ProductNumber49

Congrats for fans of extreme laziness :|

psshh, who has the time to walk 2 feet and change a disc?
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[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.beast667

Congrats for fans of extreme laziness :|

psshh, who has the time to walk 2 feet and change a disc?



I would prefer an install and no/less loading to changing a disc 3 times and longer loading times.

Uhh... yeah, the tools are important, but the "canvas" helps too.
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Dude the PS3 drive is slower then the DVD drive in the 360. Every dev has said this.

PS3_3DO
MGS4 kills your argument
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#23 L1qu1dSword
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[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.H8s2spooge

Congrats for fans of extreme laziness :|

psshh, who has the time to walk 2 feet and change a disc?



I would prefer an install and no/less loading to changing a disc 3 times and longer loading times.

Uhh... yeah, the tools are important, but the "canvas" helps too.

yeah and the only game that makes you change the disc three times is Lost Odyssey. Im 70 hours into the game so assure you i never changed discs more then once in one sitting lol.

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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude the PS3 drive is slower then the DVD drive in the 360. Every dev has said this.

AgentA-Mi6

MGS4 kills your argument

MGS4 made the drive faster suddenly? No. MGS4 is going to have a massive install to the HDD. If Capcom had to do it for DMC4, then surely MGS4 will too. Unless you want to stare at load screens half the time your playing it.

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#25 L1qu1dSword
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude the PS3 drive is slower then the DVD drive in the 360. Every dev has said this.

Bgrngod

MGS4 kills your argument

MGS4 made the drive faster suddenly? No. MGS4 is going to have a massive install to the HDD. If Capcom had to do it for DMC4, then surely MGS4 will too. Unless you want to stare at load screens half the time your playing it.

lol that other guy made it sound like MGS4 might beat me up and steal my lunch money

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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude the PS3 drive is slower then the DVD drive in the 360. Every dev has said this.

L1qu1dSword

MGS4 kills your argument

MGS4 made the drive faster suddenly? No. MGS4 is going to have a massive install to the HDD. If Capcom had to do it for DMC4, then surely MGS4 will too. Unless you want to stare at load screens half the time your playing it.

lol that other guy made it sound like MGS4 might beat me up and steal my lunch money

If you fall into the hype... that just might be what happens :P
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#27 L1qu1dSword
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By the sound of things MGS4 might even give Chuck Norris a run for his money. Scary.
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[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.beast667

Congrats for fans of extreme laziness :|

psshh, who has the time to walk 2 feet and change a disc?

You would have a point if RAGE was a RPG but it's not.

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By the sound of things MGS4 might even give Chuck Norris a run for his money. Scary.L1qu1dSword

Bruce Lee -------------------------------------------------------------> Chuck Norris.

Yes I know Bruce Lee is no longer alive but Chuck Norris doesn't have long either as old as he is.

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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]By the sound of things MGS4 might even give Chuck Norris a run for his money. Scary.sakura_Ex

Bruce Lee -------------------------------------------------------------> Chuck Norris.

Yes I know Bruce Lee is no longer alive but Chuck Norris doesn't have long either as old as he is.

uh huh....did u know....

If you have five dollars and Chuck Norris has five dollars, Chuck Norris has more money than you. There is no 'ctrl' button on Chuck Norris's computer. Chuck Norris is always in control.Apple pays Chuck Norris 99 cents every time he listens to a song. Chuck Norris can sneeze with his eyes open. Chuck Norris can eat just one Lay's potato chip.Chuck Norris is suing Myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you.Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one bird.

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#31 RKfromDownunder
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The correct answer is Crysis.

You can answer anything with the word crysis. If you just chillax and look at the 15 FPS forrest wave to the breeze life is good, arguements and wars end.

And people forget about the question at hand.

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#32 CrimsonBlade360
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Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.killzowned24
I dont see what the problem is with disc-swapping, im playing LO right now and i gotta say if you cant get off your ass every 12-16 hours to change a disc something is wrong there. Look at ME, which is a 30-35 hour game, fits well on a dvd.
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Carmack's next game is 2 dvds on 360 and PC,only 1 bluray for PS3.CrimsonBlade360
I dont see what the problem is with disc-swapping, im playing LO right now and i gotta say if you cant get off your ass every 12-16 hours to change a disc something is wrong there. Look at ME, which is a 30-35 hour game, fits well on a dvd.

RAGE isn't a RPG though,it's a FPS.

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contrary to some may believe the facts are 360 has the edge on the PS3 when is comes to frames per second and AA.

but with everything considered PS3 > 360

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#35 Dion4ever
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Blu-ray is expanding more than HD DVD though. Plus Xbox 360 has showed us with Halo 3 what it can do at it's best. The PS3 is now where near it's best!
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#36 mariokart64fan
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i say graphics does not matter,,

who cares its the games that do and the gameplay and replay value this is the reason wiis on top to begin with,

it isnt because of being a powerhouse

its because of games people would like to play ,

ps3 has strong first party as 360 does not , theres your answer ms needs third party more then sony does , and nintendo doesnt need them at all because they make most of the titles on gc ,, and look at them they sold millions, yes third party helps but not a factor for nintendo and not much of a factor for sony, ms is gonna be the one hurting as they only have rare now,,

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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]By the sound of things MGS4 might even give Chuck Norris a run for his money. Scary.L1qu1dSword

Bruce Lee -------------------------------------------------------------> Chuck Norris.

Yes I know Bruce Lee is no longer alive but Chuck Norris doesn't have long either as old as he is.

uh huh....did u know....

If you have five dollars and Chuck Norris has five dollars, Chuck Norris has more money than you. There is no 'ctrl' button on Chuck Norris's computer. Chuck Norris is always in control.Apple pays Chuck Norris 99 cents every time he listens to a song. Chuck Norris can sneeze with his eyes open. Chuck Norris can eat just one Lay's potato chip.Chuck Norris is suing Myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you.Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one bird.

lol you made me laugh:lol:

Chuck Norris is way overrated. Bruce FTW!

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#38 Bgrngod
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Blu-ray is expanding more than HD DVD though. Plus Xbox 360 has showed us with Halo 3 what it can do at it's best. The PS3 is now where near it's best! Dion4ever

What makes you think Halo3 is the best the 360 can do? The best looking games for a console have almost never been released at the 2 year point. Halo2 isn't even the best looking game on the darn thing anyways. And then you just assume that the PS3 isn't anywhere near it's best. It very well could be, just as the 360 could possibly be at it's best. Changing your logic based on what console is in your sentence doesn't really work that well for you.

Blu-ray is expanding more then HD-DVD? That isn't really saying a whole lot considering HD-DVD's current state.