The Battle of the Handheld Exclusive Carolyn Petit 6.5s! Who will win?

In one corner, we have...

With great reviews nearly everywhere except with GameSpot's Carolyn Petit, who said the game has "no midlevel checkpoints. This is annoying throughout the game. Solving puzzles the first time is satisfying; going through the motions of completing puzzles you've already solved is just tedious."

However, users on the forums say things like this:

The game is a lot of fun so far; have played an hour of it and it not only looks great but is controls nicely as well.>Zassimick

and

It is definitely a "9" game for 3DS if i ever saw one. Top tier and first class.Videodogg

The always respected YoshiYogurt says

Love the game so farYoshiYogurt

although

but it just doesn't stand up to the original for me.YoshiYogurt

On the other side, we have:

The fantastic open-world Vita exclusive that many are recently picking up and enjoying. However, Carolyn said "Gravity Rush raises a number of compelling questions about Kat and about the nature of Hekseville over the course of the game. But the game peters out before answering most of the questions it raises, saving up its mysteries for potential sequels and making the conclusion to this adventure deeply unsatisfying." She also feels that "Unfortunately, Gravity Rush soon becomes saddled with an emphasis on lackluster combat, putting a real damper on the unencumbered joy of gravity manipulation," and that "there's no lock-on," which the game actually gives you in the form of a pseudo-lock-on that works great 95% of the time, but I digress.

Users here said

I liked it.freedomfreak

and that

gravity rush for me. i cant put it downultraking

You may have heard of this user

I like gravity rush, I want another game like that. =P2ndWonder

Or even this one, the one whose taste is usually awful

This game is fvcking beautiful.

Seriously. The most beautiful open world game since AC2.funsohng

He also said

This game needs a sequel. Fix camera, add in sprinting and acrobatic platforming in conjunction with gravity shift, and you have the perfect game. funsohng

So SW users, which of these underrated games is the better one out of 6.5 realm dwellers?

I know, I took out that part of the quote. :PBlabadon

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]I know, I took out that part of the quote. :Pfreedomfreak

How was LM2?Blabadon

I wish I could participate in this thread

[spoiler] I participated by bumping it [/spoiler]

I really loved both games. Both can be considered one of the best handheld games of the generation. I dont understand the way caroline petite reviews games at all. She finds one or two flaws, and reduces 5 points from the overall score

I'm confused about the Luigi's Mansion review, pretty much the big complaint seems to be a lack of checkpoints. Would that be because Carolyn found it difficult, or does she think it is hard to stop and pick it back up later? Replaying a part of the game because you died is a part of video games, that seems kind of a weak argument, unless I'm misunderstanding it?

Why is this thing still reviewing games? GS need a reviewer cleaning ASAP. Need actual gamers reviewing gamesjoel_c17

yeah this^^. If I always compare GS and Metacritic, her score is always among the lowest overall score for a game

Also Kat is one of my top 10 characters ever created. Such a charming character and impossible to dislike

This is what I wrote alongside some other reviewers in the 3DS forum.  I think it says it all.

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] I defiantly think a little less of Caro after this show of arrogance. :/arfy2

Damn. Why is that even necessary? I get it that people take review scores too seriously but she's just poking a user for fun. Really unprofessional.

That's embarrassing for Gamespot and herself.  If you're going to "respond" to a user's comment at least show some professionalism, some class and maybe provide some insight beyond your review in order to explain yourself if you're indeed standing-by your game.

Evidently, Carolyn is incapable of that.  The review is lousy, the score is completely unrelated to what she even wrote in her lousy review, and she shouldn't be allowed to review games period.  She has no concept of gaging scores correctly.

And why should we care about the Metacritic review? Or the average review scores of sites that actually matter?  Because that shows how reliable your review is Carolyn.  That is why.  See, if you're review is a significant outlier from the rest of the pack of reviews out there then that means something is inherently wrong with your review.  In this case it was the fact that hey, the game is hard-obviously I'm not good at it-got frustrated-buried the game.  Interestingly, no other sites lodged that complaint including Gamespot's new affiliate, Giant Bomb.

So by looking at the Metacritic scores, watching and reading other sites/reviewers take on the game I amongst many other Gamespot users, have come to the conclusion that your review is unreliable, Carolyn.

And as a Gamespot registered user for years, upon years, and some more years, not including the time I used to visit the site before registering (add more years), I realize that Gamespot is no longer a premier review site unless Kevin is reviewing, and even then I'm cautious.  Carolyn your review is in the vicinity of Tom's review of Skyward Sword and he didn't even know how to control the game properly.

I can't wait to purchase the game.

Very close to my words on this! Carolyn has no trust, credibility or respect to her review scores.

Both are probably underrated. Haven't played LM, so I can't fairly say what that game does or doesn't deserve, but it looked a like a solid title.  I have played GR though, and it was certainly better than a 6.5 (in my opinion of course).  At some point I need to go back and platinum it, doesn't look too difficult, just time consuming.

This is what I wrote alongside some other reviewers in the 3DS forum.  I think it says it all.

[QUOTE="arfy2"]

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

That's embarrassing for Gamespot and herself.  If you're going to "respond" to a user's comment at least show some professionalism, some class and maybe provide some insight beyond your review in order to explain yourself if you're indeed standing-by your game.

Evidently, Carolyn is incapable of that.  The review is lousy, the score is completely unrelated to what she even wrote in her lousy review, and she shouldn't be allowed to review games period.  She has no concept of gaging scores correctly.

And why should we care about the Metacritic review? Or the average review scores of sites that actually matter?  Because that shows how reliable your review is Carolyn.  That is why.  See, if you're review is a significant outlier from the rest of the pack of reviews out there then that means something is inherently wrong with your review.  In this case it was the fact that hey, the game is hard-obviously I'm not good at it-got frustrated-buried the game.  Interestingly, no other sites lodged that complaint including Gamespot's new affiliate, Giant Bomb.

So by looking at the Metacritic scores, watching and reading other sites/reviewers take on the game I amongst many other Gamespot users, have come to the conclusion that your review is unreliable, Carolyn.

And as a Gamespot registered user for years, upon years, and some more years, not including the time I used to visit the site before registering (add more years), I realize that Gamespot is no longer a premier review site unless Kevin is reviewing, and even then I'm cautious.  Carolyn your review is in the vicinity of Tom's review of Skyward Sword and he didn't even know how to control the game properly.

I can't wait to purchase the game.

 

sonic_spark

Very close to my words on this! Carolyn has no trust, credibility or respect to her review scores.

Or even this one, the one whose taste is usually awfulLord_of_Shitty_Taste

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]How was LM2?freedomfreak

#teamkat representing. Gravity Rush is such a lovely game.

Slashkice

Also Kat is one of my top 10 characters ever created. Such a charming character and impossible to dislike

trollhunter2

This is what I wrote alongside some other reviewers in the 3DS forum.  I think it says it all.

[QUOTE="arfy2"]

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

That's embarrassing for Gamespot and herself.  If you're going to "respond" to a user's comment at least show some professionalism, some class and maybe provide some insight beyond your review in order to explain yourself if you're indeed standing-by your game.

Evidently, Carolyn is incapable of that.  The review is lousy, the score is completely unrelated to what she even wrote in her lousy review, and she shouldn't be allowed to review games period.  She has no concept of gaging scores correctly.

And why should we care about the Metacritic review? Or the average review scores of sites that actually matter?  Because that shows how reliable your review is Carolyn.  That is why.  See, if you're review is a significant outlier from the rest of the pack of reviews out there then that means something is inherently wrong with your review.  In this case it was the fact that hey, the game is hard-obviously I'm not good at it-got frustrated-buried the game.  Interestingly, no other sites lodged that complaint including Gamespot's new affiliate, Giant Bomb.

So by looking at the Metacritic scores, watching and reading other sites/reviewers take on the game I amongst many other Gamespot users, have come to the conclusion that your review is unreliable, Carolyn.

And as a Gamespot registered user for years, upon years, and some more years, not including the time I used to visit the site before registering (add more years), I realize that Gamespot is no longer a premier review site unless Kevin is reviewing, and even then I'm cautious.  Carolyn your review is in the vicinity of Tom's review of Skyward Sword and he didn't even know how to control the game properly.

I can't wait to purchase the game.

 

sonic_spark

Very close to my words on this! Carolyn has no trust, credibility or respect to her review scores.

hers was the lowest of all those listed on MetaCritic, still if you actually read the review you'd of never guessed it read like a 6.5lamprey263

So she should value the opinion of another person over her own? SW flip flopping when it suits their argument as usual. MFDOOM1983

Ha, no "flip flop."

Had you read my post, I wouldn't have to repeat myself.  Her review did not match her score.  The review was positive, but her ability to match her review with an appropriate score seems to be lacking.  Like many other users have already acknowledged.

As for her opinion vs. metacritic.  I'm getting sick and tired of people going "it's reviewers opinions."  She should value her opinion?  How about write a review that accurately matches her score?  Or how about the fact her review is half a full point lower than the lowest metacritic score.  And out of 52 reviews, 52, hers is the only one that has issue with the difficulty.

Considering Gamespot has significant "weight" on reviewing averages (if you even knew that), Gamespot should be taking their reviews more seriously or have someone competent enough to write one.

And I usually don't care to comment on reviews.  I don't buy games based on review scores.  But I will say that this review did not sit well with me and a few hundred people who commented on it.  I think that says something. 

LolCarolynPetit.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

So she should value the opinion of another person over her own? SW flip flopping when it suits their argument as usual. sonic_spark

Ha, no "flip flop."

Had you read my post, I wouldn't have to repeat myself.  Her review did not match her score.  The review was positive, but her ability to match her review with an appropriate score seems to be lacking.  Like many other users have already acknowledged.

As for her opinion vs. metacritic.  I'm getting sick and tired of people going "it's reviewers opinions."  She should value her opinion?  How about write a review that accurately matches her score?  Or how about the fact her review is half a full point lower than the lowest metacritic score.  And out of 52 reviews, 52, hers is the only one that has issue with the difficulty.

Considering Gamespot has significant "weight" on reviewing averages (if you even knew that), Gamespot should be taking their reviews more seriously or have someone competent enough to write one.

And I usually don't care to comment on reviews.  I don't buy games based on review scores.  But I will say that this review did not sit well with me and a few hundred people who commented on it.  I think that says something. 

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

So she should value the opinion of another person over her own? SW flip flopping when it suits their argument as usual. sonic_spark

Ha, no "flip flop."

Had you read my post, I wouldn't have to repeat myself.  Her review did not match her score.  The review was positive, but her ability to match her review with an appropriate score seems to be lacking.  Like many other users have already acknowledged.

As for her opinion vs. metacritic.  I'm getting sick and tired of people going "it's reviewers opinions."  She should value her opinion?  How about write a review that accurately matches her score?  Or how about the fact her review is half a full point lower than the lowest metacritic score.  And out of 52 reviews, 52, hers is the only one that has issue with the difficulty.

Considering Gamespot has significant "weight" on reviewing averages (if you even knew that), Gamespot should be taking their reviews more seriously or have someone competent enough to write one.

And I usually don't care to comment on reviews.  I don't buy games based on review scores.  But I will say that this review did not sit well with me and a few hundred people who commented on it.  I think that says something. 

That argument is f*cking stupid. No reviewer should be forced to match the average.

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]hers was the lowest of all those listed on MetaCritic, still if you actually read the review you'd of never guessed it read like a 6.5Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]hers was the lowest of all those listed on MetaCritic, still if you actually read the review you'd of never guessed it read like a 6.5heeweesRus

LolCarolynPetit.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

So she should value the opinion of another person over her own? SW flip flopping when it suits their argument as usual. MFDOOM1983

Ha, no "flip flop."

Had you read my post, I wouldn't have to repeat myself.  Her review did not match her score.  The review was positive, but her ability to match her review with an appropriate score seems to be lacking.  Like many other users have already acknowledged.

As for her opinion vs. metacritic.  I'm getting sick and tired of people going "it's reviewers opinions."  She should value her opinion?  How about write a review that accurately matches her score?  Or how about the fact her review is half a full point lower than the lowest metacritic score.  And out of 52 reviews, 52, hers is the only one that has issue with the difficulty.

Considering Gamespot has significant "weight" on reviewing averages (if you even knew that), Gamespot should be taking their reviews more seriously or have someone competent enough to write one.

And I usually don't care to comment on reviews.  I don't buy games based on review scores.  But I will say that this review did not sit well with me and a few hundred people who commented on it.  I think that says something. 

It should be in a vaccuum.  I agree.  There is evidently a lot inherently wrong with her review.  Period.  

But you're missing the point, by a longshot.  After she completed her review in her "vaccuum" as you like to put it, her review score was significantly lower than 51 other sites.  If we go by the logic that well it's her opinion, then fine it's her opinion.  But her review did not match her score.  She highly touted the game except for ONE PART where there were NO CHECKPOINTS and found it TOO DIFFICULT.  Obviously a part that she found too hard she thought was game breaking.  51 other sites, whether the score was good or not did not find that issue.  So her vaccuumed review raises concern.

The reason I bring up the metacritic average is that Gamespot reviewers shouldn't just arbitrarily throw out numbers to their reviews, is which I feel Carolyn does... for all her reviews.  And since she just tosses numbers out there it noticeably affects the metacritic average.

We can disagree.  That's just fine.  No need for insults.  But when you read a post, understand what the writer is saying. 

Are they're difficulty levels and how many mansions are there again?Blabadon

Gravity Rush is the only thing I remotely like on the Vita.

Haven't played GR, but LM2 is way better than a 6.5. 

It is a very enjoyable game. 

Carolhim.

Own both Handhelds... so far 3ds looks more promising, I mean more games etc but
Eventually Vita will start selling more and will win... mark my words. Vita already started selling real strong in Japan! After E3 it will start in EU and NA as well.

One thing I have to point out, after playing Vita and going back to 3DS, I need some time to get used to it again... damn it's resolution simply sucks compared to VITA's.

Gravity Rush is the only thing I remotely like on the Vita.

Big_Pecks

Oh my gosh... this is your time Zassimick. You were quoted in the opening post! You're famous, in the big leagues now! Everyone's going to remember who you are! DO NOT MESS THIS UP! 

Well I claim my allegiance to Wii U, PS4 and 3DS next gen. All are going to offer amazing games that I can't wait to experience.