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#1 GarchomPro
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http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

Cell seems to be faster at doing some things


Thoughts?
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#2 EntwineX
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Not this again. :? There was a huge thread just earlier today about this.
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#3 dhjohns
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Great! Another non game related thing the PS3 does well. Can Sony concentrate on games please and not this garbage? Too many bottlenecks in the PS3.
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#4 GarchomPro
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Not this again. :? There was a huge thread just earlier today about this.EntwineX


I wasnt here earlier today so i didnt know
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#5 The_Gamer81
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yeah, this was just on the forms yesterday. We know the Cell is extremely powerful. I never doubted the playstation in that manner, you just have to give the develper sometime and they will do great stuff with it.
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#6 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="EntwineX"]Not this again. :? There was a huge thread just earlier today about this.GarchomPro


I wasnt here earlier today so i didnt know

Why don't you check before posting this stuff?

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#7 sadikovic
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Funny how neither console can run Crysis!
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#8 Deathbourn
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This shows that Larabee could turn out to be really interesting. In this test the Cell is better than the G80 but in some others tests the G80 would own the Cell so bad it wouldn't even be funny. I really want to see how GPGPU turns out.

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#9 twags82
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Neat. I like playing games though.
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#10 JocktheMotie
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http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

Cell seems to be faster at doing some things


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GarchomPro

You mean the Cell is better at applications that are not related to gaming? Cool. So...why is it in the PS3 again?

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#11 stvee101
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I seem to remember a rendering technique for the PS3 that was demonstrated recently,whereby the Cell and the RSX worked together to produce,in theory at least, 8800 quality visuals.The problem was though that the Cell didn't seem to have too much left in reserve for any cpu related tasks.So I'm not sure how it would translate into making games.
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#12 GarchomPro
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="EntwineX"]Not this again. :? There was a huge thread just earlier today about this.dhjohns



I wasnt here earlier today so i didnt know

Why don't you check before posting this stuff?



Didnt occur to me. W/e the mods will lock it then
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#13 MetroidPrimePwn
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I read an article yesterday about how some university was using 3 PS3 Cell Microprocessors to perform some sort of robot thinking algorithm to allow robots to see, and that this would have requirded 15 networked computers to do. We've been hearing all about the superiority of "teh cell" for ages now. This is in no way surprising.
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#14 groudyogre
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Lol at you TC. The 8800 Ultra (in) SLI would ram the shatty cell into the ground then spit on it.

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And yet it has now been stated twice by crtek that the best looking game shown so far ( by a long way) is not possible in its current form on the 360 or ps3.........and yet 8800's can run it maxed out at resolutionsabove 720p.

i give you a :|

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#16 -wii60-
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:lol: at this thread when cows are going to learn that PC > Consoles,theories =/= reality.
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#17 Deathbourn
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BTW just remember that the Cell gets owned in portein folding by the X1900XT, so you could imagine how it would do against the G80.

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And yet it has now been stated twice by crtek that the best looking game shown so far ( by a long way) is not possible in its current form on the 360 or ps3.........and yet 8800's can run it maxed out at resolutionsabove 720p.

i give you a :|

jt8b2z

:lol:

Even World in Conflict wont run properly on a console. Even with medium settings @ 1680x1050 the game looks fantastic.
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CPU vs GPU ........ The f**k :| !
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#20 rexoverbey
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[QUOTE="jt8b2z"]

And yet it has now been stated twice by crtek that the best looking game shown so far ( by a long way) is not possible in its current form on the 360 or ps3.........and yet 8800's can run it maxed out at resolutionsabove 720p.

i give you a :|

anshul89

:lol:

Even World in Conflict wont run properly on a console. Even with medium settings @ 1680x1050 the game looks fantastic.

??? It's coming to 360.
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#21 Crunchman
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I guess the Cell is pretty potent when performing ray-tracing stuff. What does this mean? It can do a lot of math. How will this be incorperated into our games? C'mon! Let's jump into the time rift, woohoo!
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#22 -wii60-
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"]

And yet it has now been stated twice by crtek that the best looking game shown so far ( by a long way) is not possible in its current form on the 360 or ps3.........and yet 8800's can run it maxed out at resolutionsabove 720p.

i give you a :|

rexoverbey

:lol:

Even World in Conflict wont run properly on a console. Even with medium settings @ 1680x1050 the game looks fantastic.

??? It's coming to 360.



Yes,Its not going to be the same thing as PC.
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#23 dyproximy
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Wouldnt it make more sense to compare the cell to another processor and not a gpu?
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#24 PelekotansDream
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Yeah but isn't the Cell a CPU and the 8800 a GPU?

That is like comparing water and bread and then saying bread fills you up more.

Mabe I am missing something but at a glance that is what it seems like.

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#25 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]
:lol:

Even World in Conflict wont run properly on a console. Even with medium settings @ 1680x1050 the game looks fantastic.rexoverbey
??? It's coming to 360.


It definitely wont have fully destructible environments and i doubt the 360 can handle multiple explosions without a frame rate drop, and such big maps. Also the gameplay is too fast paced for a 360 controller.
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#26 Meu2k7
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The difference is, the 8800 is backed by 2-4 GB's of RAM faster than the 360's and ALOT lower Timings than the PS3's (Thats important) .... then by either 2 or 4 Cores that have much more L Cache & Architecture than the Console's counter-part (Well except the CEll I guess) ....

4000 RAM + 320/640/720 VRAM .... you work out the difference, and know exactly why you will never see a console game as large-scale as crysis with its obosultely floorlessley sharp textures, and why the PS3/360 versions of UT3's Texture resolution is cut in more than Half of the PC version.

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All I see is some guys Blog with a chart....
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#28 omgimba
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I guess the Cell is pretty potent when performing ray-tracing stuff. What does this mean? It can do a lot of math. How will this be incorperated into our games? C'mon! Let's jump into the time rift, woohoo!JLuke360
Well.. Ray tracing is the biggest leap graphics in games can take in terms of realism.. as of now.. If this would be implented in PS3 games the games would look amazing if done correctly.. But then again, there is no way a console of this gen will be able too implent ray tracing in gameplay... The Cell would have too be so overclocked that it would be more radiant then a thousand suns.
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#29 shaggyaz
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and this means what to gaming?Crytek stated that the ps3 and the 360 CANNOT run crysis wich the 8800 is more than capable of doing
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#30 naval
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and this means what to gaming?Crytex stated that the ps3 and the 360 CANNOT run crysis wich the 8800 is more than capable of doingshaggyaz

leave alone crysis some of the maps in ut3 would not be possible in ps3. talk about poor design and waste

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The difference is, the 8800 is backed by 2-4 GB's of RAM faster than the 360's and ALOT lower Timings than the PS3's (Thats important) .... then by either 2 or 4 Cores that have much more L Cache & Architecture than the Console's counter-part (Well except the CEll I guess) ....

4000 RAM + 320/640/720 VRAM .... you work out the difference, and know exactly why you will never see a console game as large-scale as crysis with its obosultely floorlessley sharp textures, and why the PS3/360 versions of UT3's Texture resolution is cut in more than Half of the PC version.

Meu2k7

So true 8)

After playing halo 3 on my mates 360 i felt good that i have a decent pc. The textures are so ugly :? (I'm sorry but WiC spoilt me :D)
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

The difference is, the 8800 is backed by 2-4 GB's of RAM faster than the 360's and ALOT lower Timings than the PS3's (Thats important) .... then by either 2 or 4 Cores that have much more L Cache & Architecture than the Console's counter-part (Well except the CEll I guess) ....

4000 RAM + 320/640/720 VRAM .... you work out the difference, and know exactly why you will never see a console game as large-scale as crysis with its obosultely floorlessley sharp textures, and why the PS3/360 versions of UT3's Texture resolution is cut in more than Half of the PC version.

anshul89


So true 8)

After playing halo 3 on my mates 360 i felt good that i have a decent pc. The textures are so ugly :? (I'm sorry but WiC spoilt me :D)

hmmm i have halo 3 and textures are mostly high res

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#33 anshul89
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hmmm i have halo 3 and textures are mostly high res

mingo123

Like I said, WiC spoilt me :)
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#34 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

The difference is, the 8800 is backed by 2-4 GB's of RAM faster than the 360's and ALOT lower Timings than the PS3's (Thats important) .... then by either 2 or 4 Cores that have much more L Cache & Architecture than the Console's counter-part (Well except the CEll I guess) ....

4000 RAM + 320/640/720 VRAM .... you work out the difference, and know exactly why you will never see a console game as large-scale as crysis with its obosultely floorlessley sharp textures, and why the PS3/360 versions of UT3's Texture resolution is cut in more than Half of the PC version.

mingo123


So true 8)

After playing halo 3 on my mates 360 i felt good that i have a decent pc. The textures are so ugly :? (I'm sorry but WiC spoilt me :D)

hmmm i have halo 3 and textures are mostly high res

But you have to admit, there are jaggies everywhere ... watch any cut scene and you will see them rampent in the characters... for such a high budget game ... thats pretty bad :S

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#35 Vandalvideo
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CPU vs GPU ........ The f**k :| !Prid3r
Yeah thats what I said.
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I thought the Cell was a CPU?
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#37 anshul89
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But you have to admit, there are jaggies everywhere ... watch any cut scene and you will see them rampent in the characters... for such a high budget game ... thats pretty bad :S

Meu2k7

But doesnt the 360 have free 4xAA ?


Looks like Bungie messed up the optimisation.
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#38 HungryLikeAMug
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http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

Cell seems to be faster at doing some things


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GarchomPro

but it has still yet to make a game look as good as gears...a game almost 1 yr old...the only game that came close "couldnnnt f1t on a standard Dvdv!!11!"...and lasted 6 hrs...cows fell for sonys lies and are paying for it...$600 worth...

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with less hardware, less power, it crushes the G80 in performance. Keep in mind too this is just the cell, no gpu. The cell is a remarkable piece of hardware.
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[QUOTE="Prid3r"]CPU vs GPU ........ The f**k :| !Vandalvideo
Yeah thats what I said.

Because the PS3's gpu is like barly equal to a 7900
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#41 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]CPU vs GPU ........ The f**k :| !darkmagician06
Yeah thats what I said.

Because the PS3's gpu is like barly equal to a 7900

That still doesn't make it ok. "ZOMG A SKILLET IS BETTER AT MAKING EGGS THAN A TOASTER?" No really?
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]CPU vs GPU ........ The f**k :| !darkmagician06
Yeah thats what I said.

Because the PS3's gpu is like barly equal to a 7900

its someting like a 7800gtx
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#43 Netherscourge
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Why are they comparing a Video Card's GPU to a Console's CPU?

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#44 bigbon_basic
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Funny how neither console can run Crysis!sadikovic

hahahahah...lol

thats the most realest thing i heard all day

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#45 rexoverbey
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[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="anshul89"]
:lol:

Even World in Conflict wont run properly on a console. Even with medium settings @ 1680x1050 the game looks fantastic.anshul89
??? It's coming to 360.


It definitely wont have fully destructible environments and i doubt the 360 can handle multiple explosions without a frame rate drop, and such big maps. Also the gameplay is too fast paced for a 360 controller.

Link for the descructable environments not on 360. This game will easily run on 360 and be comparable just as every other PC/360 game has been so far.
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

Cell seems to be faster at doing some things


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HungryLikeAMug

but it has still yet to make a game look as good as gears...a game almost 1 yr old...the only game that came close "couldnnnt f1t on a standard Dvdv!!11!"...and lasted 6 hrs...cows fell for sonys lies and are paying for it...$600 worth...

That is one of the biggest myths lair and heavenly sword look better, Gears of war while it looks good is no where near close looks to realistic, the colors are drab and very uninspiring

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[QUOTE="Prid3r"]CPU vs GPU ........ The f**k :| !Vandalvideo
Yeah thats what I said.

Yeah, this thread's pathetic.

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#48 dracolich666
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Lets see the cell render a scene with anything other then vertex shaders, O WAIT IT CANT!
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CPU vs GPU ........ The f**k :| !Prid3r

This was my first thought.

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#50 LibertySaint
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meh, halo 3 is still fun andthe graphics are still highly polished silver baby! :D