The Chips Wont Matter Naughty Dog Co-Founder

http://gamingbolt.com/naughty-dog-co-founder-former-thq-president-on-ps4-vs-xbox-one-the-chips-wont-matter

Once drove a racetrack in mom-van with a pro driver then couldn't beat his time driving a ferrari- Its the driver, not the car

Business model, indy inclusion, price, online services, community, exclusive titles, etc. may matter. The chips won't.

I'm not a total fanboy (Xbox One first PS4 later for me) and do conceade PS4 has indy inclusion and price at this time and Xbox One has the online services.  The rest is just personal preference.  But Xbox One are looking to include indy games either directly or via the Windows 8 marketplace and can move on the price.  Traditionally PS4 had better exclusives later on but Microsoft will have learn't there lesson there. 

http://gamingbolt.com/naughty-dog-co-founder-former-thq-president-on-ps4-vs-xbox-one-the-chips-wont-matter

Once drove a racetrack in mom-van with a pro driver then couldn't beat his time driving a ferrari- Its the driver, not the car

Business model, indy inclusion, price, online services, community, exclusive titles, etc. may matter. The chips won't.

I'm not a total fanboy (Xbox One first PS4 later for me) and do conceade PS4 has indy inclusion and price at this time and Xbox One has the online services.  The rest is just personal preference.  But Xbox One are looking to include indy games either directly or via the Windows 8 marketplace and can move on the price.  Traditionally PS4 had better exclusives later on but Microsoft will have learn't there lesson there. 

tdkmillsy

[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]

http://gamingbolt.com/naughty-dog-co-founder-former-thq-president-on-ps4-vs-xbox-one-the-chips-wont-matter

Once drove a racetrack in mom-van with a pro driver then couldn't beat his time driving a ferrari- Its the driver, not the car

Business model, indy inclusion, price, online services, community, exclusive titles, etc. may matter. The chips won't.

I'm not a total fanboy (Xbox One first PS4 later for me) and do conceade PS4 has indy inclusion and price at this time and Xbox One has the online services.  The rest is just personal preference.  But Xbox One are looking to include indy games either directly or via the Windows 8 marketplace and can move on the price.  Traditionally PS4 had better exclusives later on but Microsoft will have learn't there lesson there. 

Zaibach

They never have been the end all factor.  It always came down to strictly games in the past and now games + features.

The "chips" do matter of course, but they wont dictate which platform gets the better games and provide the better overall experience.  For all the advancements in technology we still see outstanding games being created on bare minimum tech every year.

http://gamingbolt.com/naughty-dog-co-founder-former-thq-president-on-ps4-vs-xbox-one-the-chips-wont-matter

Once drove a racetrack in mom-van with a pro driver then couldn't beat his time driving a ferrari- Its the driver, not the car

tdkmillsy

That is fvcking awesome way to put it. Since the technological difference between the two is as small as it is that should ring very true.

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Davekeeh

you mean the best driver in fiat car and microsoft may not have the best driver but in mclaren p1

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

nyzma23

you mean the best driver in fiat car and microsoft may not have the best driver but in mclaren p1

[QUOTE="nyzma23"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Davekeeh

you mean the best driver in fiat car and microsoft may not have the best driver but in mclaren p1

Just throwing this out there: You do realize Call of Duty: Ghosts is also on the PS4, right?

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

FoxbatAlpha

:?

Sony has the best car the PS4 is stronger,faster and better looking.

And sony has the best developers as well,ND = TEH GOODs.

 

 

Just throwing this out there: You do realize Call of Duty: Ghosts is also on the PS4, right?

Goyoshi12

Yeah but it wasn't sony who named call of duty 30 times on a presentation,and hyped the game as the new be all end all of gaming ,on a game that is multiplatfor...

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Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

tormentos

:?

Sony has the best car the PS4 is stronger,faster and better looking.

And sony has the best developers as well,ND = TEH GOODs.

http://gamingbolt.com/naughty-dog-co-founder-former-thq-president-on-ps4-vs-xbox-one-the-chips-wont-matter

Once drove a racetrack in mom-van with a pro driver then couldn't beat his time driving a ferrari- Its the driver, not the car

Business model, indy inclusion, price, online services, community, exclusive titles, etc. may matter. The chips won't.

I'm not a total fanboy (Xbox One first PS4 later for me) and do conceade PS4 has indy inclusion and price at this time and Xbox One has the online services.  The rest is just personal preference.  But Xbox One are looking to include indy games either directly or via the Windows 8 marketplace and can move on the price.  Traditionally PS4 had better exclusives later on but Microsoft will have learn't there lesson there. 

tdkmillsy

Business model is what kills MS though. They did a 180 on their policies which pleased most consumers, but they left some pretty deep scars that will take quite a long time to heal with all their statements and not everyone will be so quick to just forgive and forget. These guys just up and abandoned their vision they were so adamant about pushing and designed the xbox one around. They will likely want to restore all those things as soon as they think they can get away with it.

Of course "the chip" matters. It defines the limitations, you work within.

Of course "the chip" matters. It defines the limitations, you work within.

MlauTheDaft

Good Guy Naughty Dog.

Telling people how it's always been.

Power was never the issue.

[QUOTE="nyzma23"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Davekeeh

you mean the best driver in fiat car and microsoft may not have the best driver but in mclaren p1

:lol:

Good Guy Naughty Dog.

Telling people how it's always been.

Power was never the issue.

LegatoSkyheart

This quote has nothing to do with Naughty Dog. Jason Rubin left years ago.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Good Guy Naughty Dog.

Telling people how it's always been.

Power was never the issue.

Obviously_Right

This quote has nothing to do with Naughty Dog. Jason Rubin left years ago.

The point still stands though.

Power was never the issue.

The Games and The Community do though.

It's why we have games like Counter Strike keep going even after a successor had been released, It's why Smash Bros. Melee returned to EVO for nearly 7 years.

The "Power" that these new generation gamers seem to care about is stupid.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Good Guy Naughty Dog.

Telling people how it's always been.

Power was never the issue.

LegatoSkyheart

This quote has nothing to do with Naughty Dog. Jason Rubin left years ago.

The point still stands though.

Power was never the issue.

The Games and The Community do though.

It's why we have games like Counter Strike keep going even after a successor had been released, It's why Smash Bros. Melee returned to EVO for nearly 7 years.

The "Power" that these new generation gamers seem to care about is stupid.

So what about before we had the power to render CS and Smash Bros? Was power an issue then?

So what about before we had the power to render CS and Smash Bros? Was power an issue then?

MlauTheDaft

Always the arguement when talking about Power.

Here's the argument.

It's not before the graphics for those games, because obviously we wouldn't have those games.

The issue is gamers wanting the facto Best of the Best of the Best omg is that hair coming from that old guy's nose, graphics.

Xbox One and WiiU get trashed for this, but look at the games. They're fine.

Xbox One is getting Witcher 3 and WiiU has the beautiful Pikmin 3.

PS4 gets NONE OF THIS. It's circle jerk of people saying "omg, Knack!" "Infamous Second Son is best graphics!" "Killzone Shadow Fall!"

and yet these games look like they could have been developed on a PS3 before moving on to PS4.

Point is, When I say "It's not about the Graphics." I'm not saying we should just stick with Vetrex.

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

So what about before we had the power to render CS and Smash Bros? Was power an issue then?

LegatoSkyheart

Always the arguement when talking about Power.

Here's the argument.

It's not before the graphics for those games, because obviously we wouldn't have those games.

The issue is gamers wanting the facto Best of the Best of the Best omg is that hair coming from that old guy's nose, graphics.

Xbox One and WiiU get trashed for this, but look at the games. They're fine.

Xbox One is getting Witcher 3 and WiiU has the beautiful Pikmin 3.

PS4 gets NONE OF THIS. It's circle jerk of people saying "omg, Knack!" "Infamous Second Son is best graphics!" "Killzone Shadow Fall!"

and yet these games look like they could have been developed on a PS3 before moving on to PS4.

Point is, When I say "It's not about the Graphics." I'm not saying we should just stick with Vetrex.

you're incredibly subjective and power is obviously relevant as long as it suits you.

Power is relevant because magic does'nt exists..... Noone ever claimed that power did'nt have to be harnessed.

Turn 10, 343i will show the way.

Chips is all that matters when gaming :P

Thats a wonderful short exchange that matches my thoughts as well. If Naughty Dog, Bungie, or Bioware made Nintendo Wii-U games they'd be great not cause of the hardware, but the developer. Great games always, always, always start with a great developer and what that team can get out of the hardware they are developing on. I'm more than satisfied with the Xbox One specds as is, and will only smile if the rumors prove to be true that the final specs will recieve an upgrade. But if they don't its no big deal. Both systems are going to ump out games with killer graphics, but its the developer who will make that great looking game a great game. Graphics aren't everything IMHO. 

Microsoft:

Davekeeh

XBone winner of next gen confirmed by DaveKeeh, TCHBO!

Well, yah.

Power has never, in the history of consoles, proven to be the deciding factor in who wins a console generation.

His comment is stupid.

A pro-driver will of course do more with less.... but what about 2 pro-drivers of equal skill, 1 in a Dodge Neon, the other in a F1 Supercar? Please tell me again how power doesn't matter. Idiots.

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Davekeeh

They never have been the end all factor. It always came down to strictly games in the past and now games + features.

The "chips" do matter of course, but they wont dictate which platform gets the better games and provide the better overall experience. For all the advancements in technology we still see outstanding games being created on bare minimum tech every year.

sandbox3d

well said..

I believe that both the PS4 and the Xbox One have more than enough horsepower to make amazing games.. For example, PS2 continued to have amazing games made for it despite the fact that the original Xbox was considerably more powerful and easier to develop for.. It just boils down to the talent, imagination, and innovation of the developers..

the PS4 has a bit more horsepower to give developers freedom to create, I can grant you that.. But lets not pretend that games like Forza 5, MGS5, Battlefield 4, Quantum Break, Ryse, Destiny, and others that are shown to be running on the XB1's hardware are "ugly" (from purely a technical standpoint).. If you listen to some of the PS4 fanboys on SWs, Xbox One games are going to look like complete trash in a year when compared to the mighty PS4.. In reality, even if the PS4 is putting out a better looking game, that same game is going to still look absolutely mind-blowing if it's maxing out the Xbox One's hardware.. Casual consumers will not be disappointed in the graphical output of their XB1 purchase and the only people who will care are nerds like us who are going to be doing frame by frame comparisons with a magnifying glass.. And honestly, even I won't care THAT much..

and that's only IF PS4 games start to pull ahead graphically.. Currently both systems' exclusive titles are arguably on equal footing in terms of graphics so I guess we'll have to wait and see.. Buying a PS4 primarily for graphical superiority is an uncertainty at this point judging from the games that have been shown so far, so using that as your primary argument against the Xbox One is very weak indeed..

on the other side of that coin, the Xbox One has advantages for developers in terms of the included Kinect 2.0 functionality (pushing new boundaries in voice, gestures, and motion control), Smartglass integration (pushing new boundaries with second screen utilization and asynchronous gameplay), the Azure Cloud integration for relatively easy accessibility to dedicated servers (pushing new boundaries in video game cloud services to include dedicated servers for online games, cloud based CPU computations for AI, and more), and the Xbox Live factor in online gaming (pushing new boundaries in matchmaking with the new reputation system and more).. And this is not to mention the multimedia boundaries that are being pushed with the NFL partnership, HDMI input for live TV, Windows 8 apps, Skype, Snap-view, and more..

if you noticed a theme there, it was intentional.. The Xbox One seems to be offering great graphics along with pushing new innovation in nearly every other area of a game console.. The PS4 seems to offer even greater graphics potential coupled with logical upgrades to what the PS3 was offering and doing it for an extremely competitive price.. Both consoles would be a great purchase (I'm personally getting both at some point).. Lets just recognize that gaming (especially console gaming) is much more than GPU and RAM specs..

look what he did to THQhippiesanta

He didn't have a chance. The company was f*cked already, he tried his best to turn it around.

Good Guy Naughty Dog.

Telling people how it's always been.

Power was never the issue.

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

So what about before we had the power to render CS and Smash Bros? Was power an issue then?

LegatoSkyheart

Always the arguement when talking about Power.

Here's the argument.

It's not before the graphics for those games, because obviously we wouldn't have those games.

The issue is gamers wanting the facto Best of the Best of the Best omg is that hair coming from that old guy's nose, graphics.

Xbox One and WiiU get trashed for this, but look at the games. They're fine.

Xbox One is getting Witcher 3 and WiiU has the beautiful Pikmin 3.

PS4 gets NONE OF THIS. It's circle jerk of people saying "omg, Knack!" "Infamous Second Son is best graphics!" "Killzone Shadow Fall!"

and yet these games look like they could have been developed on a PS3 before moving on to PS4.

Point is, When I say "It's not about the Graphics." I'm not saying we should just stick with Vetrex.

PS4 has the witcher 2

i always have said this, unless you are talking about a gap like Ps4 to WIIU, it all comes down to the devs.     xbox one and maybe a ps4 down the line, i might just get two xbox ones, such a superior system.

i always have said this, unless you are talking about a gap like Ps4 to WIIU, it all comes down to the devs.     xbox one and maybe a ps4 down the line, i might just get two xbox ones, such a superior system.

The hardware jump was too big this time.

I'm guessing the real bottleneck will be budgets. The added quality in games won't come without more work and expenses.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Microsoft:

blue_hazy_basic

XBone winner of next gen confirmed by DaveKeeh, TCHBO!

It has always come down to software, features and services. The differences in hardware are so small between the two competitors that they don't offer a significant advantage over the other. Right now, with the inclusion of indie games and pretty good exclusives for the PS4, that will be my console of choice. Perhaps later I will give the X1 a chance.

i always have said this, unless you are talking about a gap like Ps4 to WIIU, it all comes down to the devs.     xbox one and maybe a ps4 down the line, i might just get two xbox ones, such a superior system.

XBOunity

I think it all depends how important the cloud will be in nextgen. Xbox One have the better position there :)

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Davekeeh

you mean the best driver in fiat car and microsoft may not have the best driver but in mclaren p1

Too bad for Microsoft that Sony has the best drivers and the best car

Davekeeh

Actually this is true, especially when it comes to exclusive developers like NaughtyDog. Microsoft's developers are no where near as talented.

[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]

http://gamingbolt.com/naughty-dog-co-founder-former-thq-president-on-ps4-vs-xbox-one-the-chips-wont-matter

Once drove a racetrack in mom-van with a pro driver then couldn't beat his time driving a ferrari- Its the driver, not the car

Business model, indy inclusion, price, online services, community, exclusive titles, etc. may matter. The chips won't.

I'm not a total fanboy (Xbox One first PS4 later for me) and do conceade PS4 has indy inclusion and price at this time and Xbox One has the online services.  The rest is just personal preference.  But Xbox One are looking to include indy games either directly or via the Windows 8 marketplace and can move on the price.  Traditionally PS4 had better exclusives later on but Microsoft will have learn't there lesson there. 

Zaibach

Check out microsoft's new ride.

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[QUOTE="nyzma23"]

 

you mean the best driver in fiat car and microsoft may not have the best driver but in mclaren p1

Goyoshi12

Just throwing this out there: You do realize Call of Duty: Ghosts is also on the PS4, right?