The concept of PC gaming is abnormal

One of the main issues i have with pc gaming aside from disgusting rampant piracy and utter inconvenience it poses is that its flawed from the very concept itself, computers are tools built to work, program, store and organize data, not for gaming purposes unlike gaming dedicated consoles. Computers, modern at least, are design to fit on a desk and to be utilized as working tools, whereas consoles are now designed as an entertainment center for the peoples rooms or the living room, you buy it, plug it and then play with it, you dont have to bother building a console from scratch whenever its obsolete, same goes for working computers, you ditch the old hardware to make room for the new one and voila.

The concept of people using computers as their main gaming device is extremely flawed, thats the reason why rampant piracy is ever on the rise, once people go through all the hassle that comes from building a gaming dedicated pc they get a feeling of entitlement that makes them get the games they want illegally if necessary, thats the reason why Japanese game companies simply dont bother releasing their games on PCs because they understand that the logical place for video games is in a dedicated console constructed for said purpose.

no just no

Abnormal isn't the right word to use.

Since a personal computer encompasses all sorts of different tasks, it's perfectly natural that there could be games and or gamers for it.

Fact is consoles are getting closer and closer to computers ... are they becoming abnormal too?

Abnormal isn't the right word to use.

Since a personal computer encompasses all sorts of different tasks, it's perfectly natural that there could be games and or gamers for it.

organic_machine

Yeah Nvidia constructed GTX690 for those who wants to make really advanced Excel sheets. Sushiglutton

Not to mention the Geforce brand is mainly for gaming

so what are consoles ? they are just "crappy" pc's. they have a CPU, GPU, HDD, RAM, MOBO, PSU and DVD drive you are a moron.

Yes, because things can't serve more than one purpose.

I dont game on PC much but I dont see the point of what you said. Why cant a PC be an entertainment system? There are people who use it for work (My MacBook Pro) then there are people who use it for gaming (My PC). I dont see a problem with this.

so what are consoles ? they are just "crappy" pc's. they have a CPU, GPU, HDD, RAM, MOBO, PSU and DVD drive you are a moron.

MW2ismygame

A moron? Consoles have Operating Systems impervious to the viruses of Macs and Windows based personal computers, how exactly is it a crappy pc when it delivers a virus safe playground dedicated for video games?

Yeah Nvidia constructed GTX690 for those who wants to make really advanced Excel sheets. Sushiglutton

Abnormal isn't the right word to use.

Since a personal computer encompasses all sorts of different tasks, it's perfectly natural that there could be games and or gamers for it.

organic_machine

This, PC is a multifunctional device, it's primary function is defined by the user, and I see no reason why that wouldn't be gaming...

Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...

You're back...wow, thought I would never see you again. Never changed it seems, lol.

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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Yeah Nvidia constructed GTX690 for those who wants to make really advanced Excel sheets. hrt_rulz01

I sort of see where you're coming from, a dedicated system is preferable, and easier. But the outdated hardware is a huge inconvenience so I just can't live with just console gaming.

A PC is a very flexible machine, it can do almost everything, gaming is one of those things, this isn't a bad thing lol.

One of the main issues i have with pc gaming aside from disgusting rampant piracy and utter inconvenience it poses is that its flawed from the very concept itself, computers are tools built to work, program, store and organize data, not for gaming purposes unlike gaming dedicated consoles. Computers, modern at least, are design to fit on a desk and to be utilized as working tools, whereas consoles are now designed as an entertainment center for the peoples rooms or the living room, you buy it, plug it and then play with it, you dont have to bother building a console from scratch whenever its obsolete, same goes for working computers, you ditch the old hardware to make room for the new one and voila.

The concept of people using computers as their main gaming device is extremely flawed, thats the reason why rampant piracy is ever on the rise, once people go through all the hassle that comes from building a gaming dedicated pc they get a feeling of entitlement that makes them get the games they want illegally if necessary, thats the reason why Japanese game companies simply dont bother releasing their games on PCs because they understand that the logical place for video games is in a dedicated console constructed for said purpose.

TheOldOlder

Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...Rocker6

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...TheOldOlder

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...TheOldOlder

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

Then explain why PC gaming is on the rise, and why there is no sign of decline when it comes to development support...

[QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...KalDurenik

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

virus safe playground dedicated for video games?TheOldOlder

At this point, it's preference. Yes, what you say is an advantage of console gaming for sure. But being virus safe is part of being a closed platform.

PC's are an open platform and host many many advantages.

Look at two games for both xbox and PC and you'll see an example of open vs closed platform:

1) Team Fortress 2. The xbox version is lagging behind the PC because Valve can freely update the content of their game at a regular basis.

2) Minecraft. The mod community (and adventure mode community) is HUGE.

The openness of the platform leads to some memorable experiences that you simply cannot have on a console.

This is why, though I have both consoles and a PC, the PC is my main platform of choice. It offers me the deepest experience.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...TheOldOlder

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

[QUOTE="hrt_rulz01"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Yeah Nvidia constructed GTX690 for those who wants to make really advanced Excel sheets. TheOldOlder

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"][QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

TheOldOlder

What are you trying to prove?

360 and PS3 owners are begging for Bayonetta 2 atm, a game announced to be Wii-U exclusive. Does their begging has anything to do with shrinking of console market, or decline in development support?

Or do they just want a good game on their platforms?

A moron? Consoles have Operating Systems impervious to the viruses...........

TheOldOlder

Stopped reading their. :roll:

"Is it possible to get viruses on the PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system?

As with any hardware and software that is connected to a network, the PS3 can also be prone to malicious attacks when connected to a network. However, we have not received any reports of such attacks to the PS3."

http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=937

[QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...Inconsistancy

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

He provides a quite interesting insight on piracy, as a man from a company that decided to almost give up on retail based releases as their main business strategy in exchange for the piracy proof digital distribution system that steam proposes. It is true that piracy stems from many factors but in the end its such a huge massive *****load of ****. That some devs stay away from the patform altogether, while going entirely or mostly DD only does help preveinting piracy it doesnt stop it, it can not be stopped and it grows every generation.

Ubisoft is tired as hell from pc piracy, i wouldnt be surprised if they dont release ACIII on PC at all. They probably will nonetheless, because they confirmed it'd come out at a later date, if i was in charge i simply would not bother and simply deny the franchise to the PC market like Gearbox did with gears of war after the piracy fiasco they suffered with the first game.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Abnormal isn't the right word to use.

Since a personal computer encompasses all sorts of different tasks, it's perfectly natural that there could be games and or gamers for it.

TheOldOlder

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

TheOldOlder

He provides a quite interesting insight on piracy, as a man from a company that decided to almost give up on retail based releases as their main business strategy in exchange for the piracy proof digital distribution system that steam proposes. It is true that piracy stems from many factors but in the end its such a huge massive *****load of ****. That some devs stay away from the patform altogether, while going entirely or mostly DD only does help preveinting piracy it doesnt stop it, it can not be stopped and it grows every generation.

Ubisoft is tired as hell from pc piracy, i wouldnt be surprised if they dont release ACIII on PC at all. They probably will nonetheless, because they confirmed it'd come out at a later date, if i was in charge i simply would not bother and simply deny the franchise to the PC market like Gearbox did with gears of war after the piracy fiasco they suffered with the first game.

[QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

A moron? Consoles have Operating Systems impervious to the viruses...........

satagod1

Stopped reading their. :roll:

"Is it possible to get viruses on the PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system?

As with any hardware and software that is connected to a network, the PS3 can also be prone to malicious attacks when connected to a network. However, we have not received any reports of such attacks to the PS3."

http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=937

One of the main issues i have with pc gaming aside from disgusting rampant piracy and utter inconvenience it poses is that its flawed from the very concept itself, computers are tools built to work, program, store and organize data, not for gaming purposes unlike gaming dedicated consoles. Computers, modern at least, are design to fit on a desk and to be utilized as working tools, whereas consoles are now designed as an entertainment center for the peoples rooms or the living room, you buy it, plug it and then play with it, you dont have to bother building a console from scratch whenever its obsolete, same goes for working computers, you ditch the old hardware to make room for the new one and voila.

TheOldOlder

X86 based PC scales from phones to super computers. The main benefits of X86 instruction set is it's instruction compression e.g. a single instruction issue that can load, store and apply math operation. X86 instruction set has other single instuction with combo operations. With RISC based CPUs, you have atleast to issue 3 instructions to load, store and apply a math operation. The X86 instruction set conserves instruction issue slots and storage (memory and cache).

X86 instruction gets decoded into RISC like operations(1) within the CPU core i.e. it has the best of both worlds.

The concept of people using computers as their main gaming device is extremely flawed, thats the reason why rampant piracy is ever on the rise, once people go through all the hassle that comes from building a gaming dedicated pc they get a feeling of entitlement that makes them get the games they want illegally if necessary, thats the reason why Japanese game companies simply dont bother releasing their games on PCs because they understand that the logical place for video games is in a dedicated console constructed for said purpose.

TheOldOlder

PC dominates Japanese visual novel games...

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

TheOldOlder

He provides a quite interesting insight on piracy, as a man from a company that decided to almost give up on retail based releases as their main business strategy in exchange for the piracy proof digital distribution system that steam proposes. It is true that piracy stems from many factors but in the end its such a huge massive *****load of ****. That some devs stay away from the patform altogether, while going entirely or mostly DD only does help preveinting piracy it doesnt stop it, it can not be stopped and it grows every generation.

Ubisoft is tired as hell from pc piracy, i wouldnt be surprised if they dont release ACIII on PC at all. They probably will nonetheless, because they confirmed it'd come out at a later date, if i was in charge i simply would not bother and simply deny the franchise to the PC market like Gearbox did with gears of war after the piracy fiasco they suffered with the first game.

"Piracy Proof" :lol:

You're a funny guy, you should replace Tosh.0, you'd actually make me laugh from time to time.

PC dominates Japanese visual novel games... ronvalencia

Sometimes i feel that PC gaming is like the Godfather part III, why did they even bother.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.

TheOldOlder

He provides a quite interesting insight on piracy, as a man from a company that decided to almost give up on retail based releases as their main business strategy in exchange for the piracy proof digital distribution system that steam proposes. It is true that piracy stems from many factors but in the end its such a huge massive *****load of ****. That some devs stay away from the patform altogether, while going entirely or mostly DD only does help preveinting piracy it doesnt stop it, it can not be stopped and it grows every generation.

Ubisoft is tired as hell from pc piracy, i wouldnt be surprised if they dont release ACIII on PC at all. They probably will nonetheless, because they confirmed it'd come out at a later date, if i was in charge i simply would not bother and simply deny the franchise to the PC market like Gearbox did with gears of war after the piracy fiasco they suffered with the first game.

Nope, DD systems like Steam aren't piracy proof...

Ubisoft just permanently dropped their AO-DRM crap, guess they finally learned their lesson, how it did far more harm than good...

You still haven't provided any proof about the decline PC development support...

[QUOTE="satagod1"]

[QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

A moron? Consoles have Operating Systems impervious to the viruses...........

TheOldOlder

Stopped reading their. :roll:

"Is it possible to get viruses on the PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system?

As with any hardware and software that is connected to a network, the PS3 can also be prone to malicious attacks when connected to a network. However, we have not received any reports of such attacks to the PS3."

http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=937

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage

http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-live-hacking-is-a-very-real-problem-219646.phtml

Yep, console networks are entirely safe! ;)

Not really. I think both could benifit from trading strengths.

I want total war on consoles!!!

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]PC dominates Japanese visual novel games... TheOldOlder

Are we talking about those japanese rape sims they showed on fox news a few of years ago? With those doll like children figures being brutally raped and murdered... i dont even want to go there but well that has nothing to do with anything.

That's not a visual novel game LOL...

Note that Hollywood has movies that depicts brutal rape and murder. Some ratings agencies has double standards/hypocrites.

One of the main issues i have with pc gaming aside from disgusting rampant piracy and utter inconvenience it poses is that its flawed from the very concept itself, computers are tools built to work, program, store and organize data, not for gaming purposes unlike gaming dedicated consoles. Computers, modern at least, are design to fit on a desk and to be utilized as working tools, whereas consoles are now designed as an entertainment center for the peoples rooms or the living room, you buy it, plug it and then play with it, you dont have to bother building a console from scratch whenever its obsolete, same goes for working computers, you ditch the old hardware to make room for the new one and voila.

The concept of people using computers as their main gaming device is extremely flawed, thats the reason why rampant piracy is ever on the rise, once people go through all the hassle that comes from building a gaming dedicated pc they get a feeling of entitlement that makes them get the games they want illegally if necessary, thats the reason why Japanese game companies simply dont bother releasing their games on PCs because they understand that the logical place for video games is in a dedicated console constructed for said purpose.

TheOldOlder

[QUOTE="TheOldOlder"]

One of the main issues i have with pc gaming aside from disgusting rampant piracy and utter inconvenience it poses is that its flawed from the very concept itself, computers are tools built to work, program, store and organize data, not for gaming purposes unlike gaming dedicated consoles. Computers, modern at least, are design to fit on a desk and to be utilized as working tools, whereas consoles are now designed as an entertainment center for the peoples rooms or the living room, you buy it, plug it and then play with it, you dont have to bother building a console from scratch whenever its obsolete, same goes for working computers, you ditch the old hardware to make room for the new one and voila.

ronvalencia

X86 based PC scales from phones to super computers. The main benefits of X86 instruction set is it's instruction compression e.g. a single instruction issue that can load, store and apply math operation. X86 instruction set has other single instuction with combo operations. With RISC based CPUs, you have atleast to issue 3 instructions to load, store and apply a math operation. The X86 instruction set conserves instruction issue slots and storage (memory and cache).

X86 instruction gets decoded into RISC like operations(1) within the CPU core i.e. it has the best of both worlds.

The concept of people using computers as their main gaming device is extremely flawed, thats the reason why rampant piracy is ever on the rise, once people go through all the hassle that comes from building a gaming dedicated pc they get a feeling of entitlement that makes them get the games they want illegally if necessary, thats the reason why Japanese game companies simply dont bother releasing their games on PCs because they understand that the logical place for video games is in a dedicated console constructed for said purpose.

TheOldOlder

PC dominates Japanese visual novel games...

:lol:

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Also, tired of this "rampant piracy" crap...TheOldOlder

Oh my fellow poster, publishers are tired of that piracy crap as well, more and more of them refuse to take part in this charade every year.