The conduit doesn't look better than most last gen games

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#1 nhh18
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I don't understand where this blindness occured. But it is techinical mess. It has zero Aliasing, no bump-mapping, weird lighting, ugly polygonal enemy designs. The game is completely ugly, and isn't even techinically comparable to wii games like Metroid Prime 3, Little King story, Mad world, etc. I have no idea why this is hyped so much for what is pretty much one of the ugliest fps in the past 2 generations.

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This is unreal championship (2002)

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Conduit (2009)

There isn't any bumpmapping on any of the conduit screens, or anything even comparable to technologically to a 2002 game. Neither have framerate problems, or anything. But this game has zero bump mapping. Zero. I'm amazed.

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#2 haziqonfire
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Yeah I agree. I'm not a fan of its art direction to be honest. Its like Halo and Half Life had an ugly child.
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#3 SMR-Venom
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It does have bump mapping, look harder (developers also confirmed it). Also, it is comparable to last gen games because the Wii's hardware is essentially last gen (Equal to or less than Xbox)
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#4 finalfantasy94
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Umm I think thatsa MP screen.

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#5 -Oath
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Ill wait until the game is in my Wii and displaying on my LCD to judge its graphics.

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#6 II-FBIsniper-II
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Umm I think thatsa MP screen.

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Wasn't Unreal Championship multiplayer only? Edit: Just checked. It had a single player but it was essentially the same thing as multiplayer except against AI.
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#7 -Traveller-
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Considering it's using similar hardware to last-gen that's kind of obvious.

What were people expecting? Seriously?

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#8 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Umm I think thatsa MP screen.

II-FBIsniper-II

Wasn't Unreal Championship multiplayer only?

I think UC has some sort of SP. Which is more like a tutoreal.

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#9 dr-venkman
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Who cares? If the game is fun, it's fun. Whether the graphics suck or not doesn't matter. Were talking about a Wii game. A game like MP3 stood out not because of it's graphics (Although they were quite nice) it was the excellent level design and fluid controls. This is all I can hope for from The Conduit. People here worry way too much about picture-esq graphics. Especially since were dealing with the Wii game...
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#10 sailor232
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It does have bump mapping, look harder (developers also confirmed it). Also, it is comparable to last gen games because the Wii's hardware is essentially last gen (Equal to or less than Xbox)SMR-Venom

this man tells the truth. Dosn't mean that the game won't be fun. We all should wait for it to come out, then we will see whats so good or bad about the game.

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#11 -MaskedMan-
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Don't even care, Little King's Story is coming out and I'm excited.

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#12 Jade_Monkey
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Considering it's using similar hardware to last-gen that's kind of obvious.

What were people expecting? Seriously?

-Traveller-

What ? What happened to Ninty saying it was twice the power of a gamecube. Now wasn't the GC more powerful than the PS2 ? Logically it should be twice as powerful as PS2 even though it looks just as good.

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#13 Jekken6
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And some people say that the conduit looks as good as a PS3 or 360 game. :lol:

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#16 Wanderer5
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And some people say that the conduit looks as good as a PS3 or 360 game. :lol:

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Oh yes, those fakeboys are so annoying.:)

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#17 BioShockOwnz
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I've seen the gameplay vids. The Conduit looks pretty nice, imo. Whatever.

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#18 Jekken6
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

GET OVER IT.

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No way no how. Your resistence only makes my penis harder.

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#19 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Considering it's using similar hardware to last-gen that's kind of obvious.

What were people expecting? Seriously?

Jade_Monkey

What ? What happened to Ninty saying it was twice the power of a gamecube. Now wasn't the GC more powerful than the PS2 ? Logically it should be twice as powerful as PS2 even though it looks just as good.

What happened to all Sony's promises?

Things don't always go as promised.

It uses last-gen hardware, and produces last-gen graphics.

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#20 Jade_Monkey
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What happened to all Sony's promises?

Things don't always go as promised.

It uses last-gen hardware, and produces last-gen graphics.

-Traveller-

I'm not a cow, saying that has no impact on me. I could care less what Sony says unless it helps my cause.

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#22 Patatopan
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What are you talking about, there is bump mapping on that orb thing. Even the developers said that there was usage of bump mapping.

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#23 Jade_Monkey
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What are you talking about, there is bump mapping on that orb thing. Even the developers said that there was usage of bump mapping.

Patatopan

The developers also said it would rival 360/PS3 games, which means they were probably baked when they said it.

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#24 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

What happened to all Sony's promises?

Things don't always go as promised.

It uses last-gen hardware, and produces last-gen graphics.

Jade_Monkey

I'm not a cow, saying that has no impact on me. I could care less what Sony says unless it helps my cause.

Lol, what?

I was just using another example of how somebody saying something doesn't necessarily make it the truth.

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#25 Jade_Monkey
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Lol, what?

I was just using another example of how somebody saying something doesn't necessarily make it the truth.

-Traveller-

No but anything they say can and will be used against them in a court of law, and in our messed up gaming world this is that court. I'm not excusing Sony's dumb promises such as 4D graphics and 120FPS 1080P.

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#26 goblaa
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[QUOTE="Patatopan"]

What are you talking about, there is bump mapping on that orb thing. Even the developers said that there was usage of bump mapping.

Jade_Monkey

The developers also said it would rival 360/PS3 games, which means they were probably baked when they said it.

High Voltage never said that. Journalists at game cons seeing the conduit played on screen said that.

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#27 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Lol, what?

I was just using another example of how somebody saying something doesn't necessarily make it the truth.

Jade_Monkey

No but anything they say can and will be used against them in a court of law, and in our messed up gaming world this is that court. I'm not excusing Sony's dumb promises such as 4D graphics and 120FPS 1080P.

Alright then. You don't have to.

I'm sticking with, last-gen hardware, last-gen graphics. Simple as.

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#28 Jade_Monkey
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High Voltage never said that. Journalists at game cons seeing the conduit played on screen said that.

goblaa

http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2008/06/16/wii-fanboy-interviews-high-voltage-on-the-conduit/

"Can we expect better-than-Xbox levels of detail and shaders in The Conduit?

Matt: Let's just say that the team has pretty much had to ignore the graphics of the other titles that have come out on the Wii so far. The team says that it feels a lot more like they're making a 360/PS3 title than a Wii title. Our Quantum 3 engine tech is amazing, and when players see the final polished results, it's going to look incredible."

I give you proof

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#29 Syferonik
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Happy i am not the only one who find The Conduit super ugly...this is almost on par with FarCry on Wii lol
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#30 Sword-Demon
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I don't understand where this blindness occured. But it is techinical mess. It has zero Aliasing, no bump-mapping, weird lighting, ugly polygonal enemy designs. The game is completely ugly, and isn't even techinically comparable to wii games like Metroid Prime 3, Little King story, Mad world, etc. I have no idea why this is hyped so much for what is pretty much one of the ugliest fps in the past 2 generations.nhh18

Find one person who is SERIOUSLY hyping the graphics...

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#31 cowgriller
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Yeah I agree. I'm not a fan of its art direction to be honest. Its like Halo and Half Life had an ugly child.Haziqonfire

they did. it's called resistance:fall of man

as for the topic. wow. that's wrong. the wii is getting it's ass handed to it graphically by last gen games like halo 2, doom 3, chronicles of riddick and black.

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Did I miss the 6 o'clock for the new fad thread train?

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#33 cowgriller
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Did I miss the 6 o'clock for the new fad thread train?

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yea. but thankfully it's the fad train you could just catch the 6:01 train to locked thread land.

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#34 Jekken6
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Yeah I agree. I'm not a fan of its art direction to be honest. Its like Halo and Half Life had an ugly child.cowgriller

they did. it's called resistance:fall of man

as for the topic. wow. that's wrong. the wii is getting it's ass handed to it graphically by last gen games like halo 2, doom 3, chronicles of riddick and black.

Resistance: FoM still looks miles better than The Conduit

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#35 V_Zarnold_N
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Ill wait until the game is in my Wii and displaying on my LCD to judge its graphics.

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Gotta love that full 480p ;p
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#36 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Yeah I agree. I'm not a fan of its art direction to be honest. Its like Halo and Half Life had an ugly child.Jekken6

they did. it's called resistance:fall of man

as for the topic. wow. that's wrong. the wii is getting it's ass handed to it graphically by last gen games like halo 2, doom 3, chronicles of riddick and black.

Resistance: FoM still looks miles better than The Conduit

almost all games look better than the conduit. let me pull out me crystal ball (not that one you perv) and predict the score. i see a 6.5 flop, ridicule and denial. a fun day in system wars for the victors as always.

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#37 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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Yeah I agree. I'm not a fan of its art direction to be honest. Its like Halo and Half Life had an ugly child.Haziqonfire
a child rubbed with sandpaper till it had no texture
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#38 obamanian
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It does have bump mapping, look harder (developers also confirmed it). Also, it is comparable to last gen games because the Wii's hardware is essentially last gen (Equal to or less than Xbox)SMR-Venom

I see no bump mapping in the envirnment, not even a tiny little bit of it

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#39 habkeinbock
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conduit thread number 423

wii owners didnt bought the wii for its graphics in the first place but still lems bash the cunduit for its GRAPHICS :lol:

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#40 JLF1
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conduit thread number 423

wii owners didnt bought the wii for its graphics in the first place but still lems bash the cunduit for its GRAPHICS :lol:

habkeinbock

The thing is, the only reason The Conduit was/is hyped is because of the graphics.

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#41 habkeinbock
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[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

conduit thread number 423

wii owners didnt bought the wii for its graphics in the first place but still lems bash the cunduit for its GRAPHICS :lol:

JLF1

The thing is, the only reason The Conduit was/is hyped is because of the graphics.

threads made by lems ;)

some wii owners hype it course it looks like the developer TRY too put more effort into it than the most BIG developer (on the wii)

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#42 obamanian
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

conduit thread number 423

wii owners didnt bought the wii for its graphics in the first place but still lems bash the cunduit for its GRAPHICS :lol:

habkeinbock

The thing is, the only reason The Conduit was/is hyped is because of the graphics.

threads made by lems ;)

some wii owners hype it course it looks like the developer TRY too put more effort into it than the most BIG developer (on the wii)

Well, the devleopers confirmed it as having visuals equal to 360 launch games, if they were not that dillusional, and say things like that, noone would care

But when you try to suggest Conduit looks as good as Kameo, that is one of the best looking games this generation even today, then you have a problem in your hands

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#43 Master_Bland
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this game does look better than last gen games, the difference is barely noticable, and evn just by looking at the stills you can see misuse of graphics, too much polys on this model not enough on aother, textures that could be optimized but weren't, it's all high voltages CG Staff, you give them an engine and they treat it like a PC game, (Blizzard are the only company that makes optimized models and textures in their games, evven their animations are suprisingly smooth.

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#44 Filthybastrd
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I'm starting to wish for The Conduit to score 9.5.

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#45 Mckenna1845
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I'm starting to wish for The Conduit to score 9.5.

Filthybastrd
lol me too, the amount of ownage would be collossal, even wii owners are playing down this game. I don't think it's going to be amazing, but i believe enough effort has been put into it to be worth a purchase. I also can't believe cows are calling sheep for hyping this game primarily for graphics when killzone 2 was hyped for the same reason. Killzone 2 turned out a good game and delivered on it's graphical promise, maybe this will too?
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#46 nintendo-4life
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the conduit sucks.. end of story.