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#1 redfordo
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http://www.universebot.com/2009/06/23/the-conduit-selling-out-in-retail-stores/

If this game sells even half of what Killzone 2 did in its first month, it will be a HUGE victory for HVS considering KZ2's $60 million budget was over 10 times higher.

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#2 SaudiFury
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The only reason i'm rooting for Conduit to succeed is not so Nintendo fanboys can go running around for bragging rights. it's so that Nintendo fans can have more mature games coming to their console. third party dev's can feel secure in doing mature more story oriented or FPS style games for the console. seriously guys... you guys get ever tired of the constant chest beating?
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#3 TheOwnerOner
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Yes, this would be pretty bad for gaming.
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I just saw an ad for Circuit City when I clicked that link. :| Also, this doesn't mean much, it's one spot, I'll wait for NPD numbers.
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#5 Teuf_
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That article is just some dude saying he went to Target and couldn't find a copy.

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#6 ActicEdge
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I don't trust that link. Anyway, even though the game is not great I respect the devs a lot and for that reason I want the game to sell well. If it charts in the NDP I will be surprised.

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#7 metroidfood
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That article is just some dude saying he went to Target and couldn't find a copy.

Teufelhuhn

People seem to forget that the plural of anecdote is not data.

Moreover, lack of product on the shelves could be due to low shipments or employees not placing all the stock out.

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#8 Giancar
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lol, hyping sales over quality.... go for it! :D
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#9 ActicEdge
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lol, hyping sales over quality.... go for it! :DGiancar

A mediocore game selling well never hurt anyone. I'm still in awe that people want games to sell bad. (I only want SE lazy games to sell bad because Its apparent they don'tt even try)

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#10 Nike_Air
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Mediocregame with half the sales of a superb one = yay !!! Victory is ours.

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#11 glez13
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That article is just some dude saying he went to Target and couldn't find a copy.

Teufelhuhn

This. It's practically a blog with someones impression.

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#12 redfordo
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Mediocregame with half the sales of a superb one = yay !!! Victory is ours.

Nike_Air

If The Conduit even sells decently, it will bea victory for HVS and the future of core games on the Wii in general.

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#13 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]lol, hyping sales over quality.... go for it! :DActicEdge

A mediocore game selling well never hurt anyone. I'm still in awe that people want games to sell bad. (I only want SE lazy games to sell bad because Its apparent they don'tt even try)

mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]lol, hyping sales over quality.... go for it! :DGiancar

A mediocore game selling well never hurt anyone. I'm still in awe that people want games to sell bad. (I only want SE lazy games to sell bad because Its apparent they don'tt even try)

mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)

All it will do is encourage more core games on the Wii. How is this bad for the industry?

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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

A mediocore game selling well never hurt anyone. I'm still in awe that people want games to sell bad. (I only want SE lazy games to sell bad because Its apparent they don'tt even try)

redfordo

mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)

All it will do is encourage more core games on the Wii. How is this bad for the industry?

there are better games that you could hype to sell great...LKS for example the conduit, from what I've seen....not at all
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]lol, hyping sales over quality.... go for it! :DGiancar

A mediocore game selling well never hurt anyone. I'm still in awe that people want games to sell bad. (I only want SE lazy games to sell bad because Its apparent they don'tt even try)

mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)

Well yeah they are fanboys but I just don'y understand why people think a mediocore game getting good sales means all gloom and ddom and the industry is going to suffer. Its no big deal, Turok, Army of 2, God Father 2, etc all sold decent for being meh games yet people act like its a horrible thing. As far as comparing sales, since the sales game is not really correlated with the quality game game its not really all that big of a deal either.

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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)Giancar

All it will do is encourage more core games on the Wii. How is this bad for the industry?

there are better games that you could hype to sell great...LKS for example the conduit, from what I've seen....not at all

No offense but this type of thinking encourages 2 things:

1. It assumes that you should be picking what people buy based of what you think of games and
2. It assumes your tastes are what everyone's tastes should be.

I'm sorry but that type of thinking is not worth the time of day quite frankly.

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#18 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

A mediocore game selling well never hurt anyone. I'm still in awe that people want games to sell bad. (I only want SE lazy games to sell bad because Its apparent they don'tt even try)

ActicEdge

mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)

Well yeah they are fanboys but I just don'y understand why people think a mediocore game getting good sales means all gloom and ddom and the industry is going to suffer. Its no big deal, Turok, Army of 2, God Father 2, etc all sold decent for being meh games yet people act like its a horrible thing. As far as comparing sales, since the sales game is not really correlated with the quality game game its not really all that big of a deal either.

nowhere in my post have I stated that the COnduit getting sales would mean "doom and gloom" It's just something I wouldn't be very proud of...
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#19 -PuLse
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It would be interesting too see The Conduit outsell a juggernaut like Killzone 2.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]lol, hyping sales over quality.... go for it! :DGiancar

A mediocore game selling well never hurt anyone. I'm still in awe that people want games to sell bad. (I only want SE lazy games to sell bad because Its apparent they don'tt even try)

mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)

wha? lol! this has happened since the beginning of the VG industry and look where we are now

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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)Giancar

All it will do is encourage more core games on the Wii. How is this bad for the industry?

there are better games that you could hype to sell great...LKS for example the conduit, from what I've seen....not at all

Why because LKS's Gamerankings average is like .5 higher? Who cares. The Conduit is a solid game with good online and a true effort from a small developer to bring an exclusive core game to the Wii from the ground up. If anything, it will encourage more fps on the Wii. A genre that is lacking on the console. The fact that you're somehow acting like this game will somehow bring more bad games to the Wii is completely unjustified. I can see if it were the latest Hannah Montanah game selling great on the Wii, but The Conduit?

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] mediocre games selling great of course hurt the industry... I'm not saying the Conduit is a 100% bad game. I haven't played the game, and neither plan to do so. But it's fun to watch some people to cheer up for sales and compare it directly to a quality one (there are still better fps than kz2, but nobody can deny the bog achievment they got, specially when you compare with the first game)Giancar

Well yeah they are fanboys but I just don'y understand why people think a mediocore game getting good sales means all gloom and ddom and the industry is going to suffer. Its no big deal, Turok, Army of 2, God Father 2, etc all sold decent for being meh games yet people act like its a horrible thing. As far as comparing sales, since the sales game is not really correlated with the quality game game its not really all that big of a deal either.

nowhere in my post have I stated that the COnduit getting sales would mean "doom and gloom" It's just something I wouldn't be very proud of...

Why not? You are basing everything on the quality of the game. A shovelware dev who produces nothing but crap steps up to the plate and tries to deliver a quality shooter since none of the bigger devs want to try. All things considered, they did an okay job. Everyone who talked to these guys liked them, enjoyed their passion and hard work and thought they were nice guys. I don't see anything wrong being proud that this game would sell well. I would rather a mediocore game with hard work put into sell well rather than the same remake/port/spinoff garbage SE feeds us sell.

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#24 ActicEdge
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It would be interesting too see The Conduit outsell a juggernaut like Killzone 2.

-PuLse

It won't happen but that would be a kick in the face to alot of the people defending KZ2's sales lol.

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Would be nice to see it outsell ANY of the PS3/360 action/shooters honestly. Not because it's an amazing game, but because of the 3rd party support it might bring to the Wii.

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[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

It would be interesting too see The Conduit outsell a juggernaut like Killzone 2.

ActicEdge

It won't happen but that would be a kick in the face to alot of the people defending KZ2's sales lol.

I think it can easily outprofit KZ2 considering KZ2's $60 million budget. It would only need about a tenth of its sales.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="redfordo"]All it will do is encourage more core games on the Wii. How is this bad for the industry?

ActicEdge

there are better games that you could hype to sell great...LKS for example the conduit, from what I've seen....not at all

No offense but this type of thinking encourages 2 things:

1. It assumes that you should be picking what people buy based of what you think of games and
2. It assumes your tastes are what everyone's tastes should be.

I'm sorry but that type of thinking is not worth the time of day quite frankly.

no, I don't like fps very much...but if you like the genre, buy the Conduit? No way in hell. Buy another fps in another system. I don't see nothing, really nothing that stands for the Conduit. Especially in a genre so overpopulated and with sooo many other choices (most being far better than this one)

Heck but thats me

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Would be nice to see it outsell ANY of the PS3/360 action/shooters honestly. Not because it's an amazing game, but because of the 3rd party support it might bring to the Wii.

treedoor

Can't do any worst than Bionic Commando, which sold 13 k on the 360 and PS3 combined last month :lol:

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[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

It would be interesting too see The Conduit outsell a juggernaut like Killzone 2.

ActicEdge

It won't happen but that would be a kick in the face to alot of the people defending KZ2's sales lol.

Yeah it woul be hilarious too see. Just goes to show that the Wii's fanbase aren't just old people and soccer moms. :P

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Would be nice to see it outsell ANY of the PS3/360 action/shooters honestly. Not because it's an amazing game, but because of the 3rd party support it might bring to the Wii.

redfordo

Can't do any worst than Bionic Commando, which sold 13 k on the 360 and PS3 combined last month :lol:

and BC deserved that...Heck even Re5 didn't deserve the sales it got...IMO!
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

It would be interesting too see The Conduit outsell a juggernaut like Killzone 2.

redfordo

It won't happen but that would be a kick in the face to alot of the people defending KZ2's sales lol.

I think it can easily outprofit KZ2 considering KZ2's $60 million budget. It would only need about a tenth of its sales.

nah, people will just point to the fact that the Wii's userbase is more than twice as big as the ps3's userbase

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] there are better games that you could hype to sell great...LKS for example the conduit, from what I've seen....not at allGiancar

No offense but this type of thinking encourages 2 things:

1. It assumes that you should be picking what people buy based of what you think of games and
2. It assumes your tastes are what everyone's tastes should be.

I'm sorry but that type of thinking is not worth the time of day quite frankly.

no, I don't like fps very much...but if you like the genre, buy the Conduit? No way in hell. Buy another fps in another system. I don't see nothing, really nothing that stands for the Conduit. Especially in a genre so overpopulated and with sooo many other choices (most being far better than this one)

Heck but thats me

Again, it goes back to point #1 I made:

"It assumes that you should be picking what people buy based off what you think of games"

Again, I don't see why you care whether people buy mediocore games when better ones are available. Army of 2 and Turok are a few examples. People should be able to buy and play what they want free of criticism unless you are under the impression you know more about people's tastes than they do. I highly doubt you beleive that which is why I don't see the problem.

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#35 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Would be nice to see it outsell ANY of the PS3/360 action/shooters honestly. Not because it's an amazing game, but because of the 3rd party support it might bring to the Wii.

Giancar

Can't do any worst than Bionic Commando, which sold 13 k on the 360 and PS3 combined last month :lol:

and BC deserved that...Heck even Re5 didn't deserve the sales it got...IMO!

BC was a fairly big budget game from an AAA publisher. Those sales are incredibly low.

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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

It won't happen but that would be a kick in the face to alot of the people defending KZ2's sales lol.

ogvampire

I think it can easily outprofit KZ2 considering KZ2's $60 million budget. It would only need about a tenth of its sales.

nah, people will just point to the fact that the Wii's userbase is more than twice as big as the ps3's userbase

I'm pretty sure that soccer moms and old people don't buy The Conduit. Even though that's what the majority thinks is the Wii's fanbase.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

It would be interesting too see The Conduit outsell a juggernaut like Killzone 2.

-PuLse

It won't happen but that would be a kick in the face to alot of the people defending KZ2's sales lol.

Yeah it woul be hilarious too see. Just goes to show that the Wii's fanbase aren't just old people and soccer moms. :P

I don't know what I would do first. Congradulate the devs or laugh really hard that the game actually outsold one of the biggest games this year. Well, I just hope they get their monies worth and the Wii will never lose that sooccer mom image lol. As long as games like Wii play sell, nothing will save the wii from that image.

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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

It won't happen but that would be a kick in the face to alot of the people defending KZ2's sales lol.

ogvampire

I think it can easily outprofit KZ2 considering KZ2's $60 million budget. It would only need about a tenth of its sales.

nah, people will just point to the fact that the Wii's userbase is more than twice as big as the ps3's userbase

What does that mean to the publisher though? Not much. This isn't about bragging rights. It's about developers finding financial success in their endeavors and it spurring on further development in the future.

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#39 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="redfordo"]I think it can easily outprofit KZ2 considering KZ2's $60 million budget. It would only need about a tenth of its sales.

redfordo

nah, people will just point to the fact that the Wii's userbase is more than twice as big as the ps3's userbase

What does that mean to the publisher though? Not much. This isn't about bragging rights. It's about developers finding financial success in their endeavors and it spurring on further development in the future.

i agree. i was just pointing out what fanboys would say in that situation

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Its funny because I've seen tons of copies of this game, everywhere, here in the GTA in Ont. Canada.

I don't think it'll sell amazingly well but it will sell well.

Its too bad, people will enjoy it for 3 hours then be done with it.

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#41 flazzle
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I don't know if I really trust that post. The only game I haveseen sold out where you couldn't get it near me was Mario Kart.

Not only that, my Target didn't get Tiger Woods until a few days late. They had the place holder there, it looked sold out, but none were sold.

I use Amazon as my measure of things being sold out. I checked, and they are in stock.

That being said, it does seem to have a positive outlook by most players on the consumer side. Word of mouth may also be sellling this game.

I hope it does sell well, because I think HVS have the motivation and passion to improve.

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#42 flazzle
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Its funny because I've seen tons of copies of this game, everywhere, here in the GTA in Ont. Canada.

I don't think it'll sell amazingly well but it will sell well.

Its too bad, people will enjoy it for 3 hours then be done with it.

Haziqonfire

They'll hate the mutiplayer that much, huh?

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#43 shawn7324
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Glad to hear Nintendo Wii owners are buying it.

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#44 surrealnumber5
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wait for NPD data
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#45 clubsammich91
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That's not really proof that it's selling out worldwide. I'll wait for the NPD
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#46 ogvampire
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That's not really proof that it's selling out worldwide. I'll wait for the NPDclubsammich91

npd is not really proof that its selling out worldwide either... it just shows NA sales

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#47 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]That's not really proof that it's selling out worldwide. I'll wait for the NPDogvampire

npd is not really proof that its selling out worldwide either... it just shows NA sales

Well it's only out in NA. :P
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#48 clubsammich91
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]That's not really proof that it's selling out worldwide. I'll wait for the NPDogvampire

npd is not really proof that its selling out worldwide either... it just shows NA sales

Yeah, but it's at least raw data. Not just some dude running over to Target to find no copies.
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#49 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]That's not really proof that it's selling out worldwide. I'll wait for the NPDOreoMilkshake

npd is not really proof that its selling out worldwide either... it just shows NA sales

Well it's only out in NA. :P

lol. you got us both

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#50 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]That's not really proof that it's selling out worldwide. I'll wait for the NPDclubsammich91

npd is not really proof that its selling out worldwide either... it just shows NA sales

Yeah, but it's at least raw data. Not just some dude running over to Target to find no copies.

i agree, i just found your comment a little off considering that NPD doesnt track world-wide