The Console War and PS2

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#1 -The-Don-
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Is it just me or is PS2 here to stay in this Gen too? It seems that PS2 still is a top contender in this gen.

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#2 EPaul
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The PS2 is not a contender this Gen it will probably die by 2010
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#3 SOedipus
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Yea, but not for its upcoming games, that's for sure.
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#4 dream431ca
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It is. It's selling extremely well for an 8 year old console, although some people think the "next-gen" concept is about graphics and not sales.
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#5 GunSmith1_basic
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well the psone had a lot of overlap against the ps2 as well. The difference is that the ps2 outsold the psone in that span (pretty sure)
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#6 PS3_3DO
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The PS2 had faulty hardware and yet it still sells! :o I guess the 360 is going to be stable this fall using the 65nm GPU chip. :)

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#7 raynimrod
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I'm very impressed by the PS2's sales at present, for its age it is doing a fantastic job.

For the silly fanboys who care only about sales, yes the PS2 is a contender this gen.

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#8 PS3_3DO
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I'm very impressed by the PS2's sales at present, for its age it is doing a fantastic job.

For the silly fanboys who care only about sales, yes the PS2 is a contender this gen.

raynimrod

Cell phones have better graphics then the PS2 now.

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#9 Sonir77
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supply and demand
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#10 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm very impressed by the PS2's sales at present, for its age it is doing a fantastic job.

For the silly fanboys who care only about sales, yes the PS2 is a contender this gen.

PS3_3DO

Cell phones have better graphics then the PS2 now.



What did your post have to do with mine?
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#11 Tiefster
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The PS2 is not a contender this Gen it will probably die by 2010EPaul

That's not bad considering this gen started in 2005. Surviving 5 years into the next gen is quite a feat.
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#12 EVOLV3
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The PS2 just continues to sell and sell, I wonder when it will finally slow down?
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#13 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm very impressed by the PS2's sales at present, for its age it is doing a fantastic job.

For the silly fanboys who care only about sales, yes the PS2 is a contender this gen.

raynimrod

Cell phones have better graphics then the PS2 now.



What did your post have to do with mine?

Nothing only that the PS2 graphics are way behind the times. Another reason people buy the PS2 is to replace a broken one.

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#14 elbow2k
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm very impressed by the PS2's sales at present, for its age it is doing a fantastic job.

For the silly fanboys who care only about sales, yes the PS2 is a contender this gen.

PS3_3DO

Cell phones have better graphics then the PS2 now.



What did your post have to do with mine?

Nothing only that the PS2 graphics are way behind the times. Another reason people buy the PS2 is to replace a broken one.

Yeah... because 120 million units are a direct result of that...

Dam these fanboys, still bitter because their favorite console got crushed.

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#15 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm very impressed by the PS2's sales at present, for its age it is doing a fantastic job.

For the silly fanboys who care only about sales, yes the PS2 is a contender this gen.

elbow2k

Cell phones have better graphics then the PS2 now.



What did your post have to do with mine?

Nothing only that the PS2 graphics are way behind the times. Another reason people buy the PS2 is to replace a broken one.

Yeah... because 120 million units are a direct result of that...

Dam these fanboys, still bitter because their favorite console got crushed.

I am telling my opinion on the reasons the PS2 keeps on selling. Oh and the games are cheap so I guess that is another reason the outdated PS2 keeps on going.

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#16 elbow2k
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I am telling my opinion on the reasons the PS2 keeps on selling. Oh and the games are cheap so I guess that is another reason the outdated PS2 keeps on going.

PS3_3DO

You're lumping DRE with the RROD together, when they aren't even on the same level.

Or is that some lame attempt to compare the 360 to the PS2?

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#17 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I am telling my opinion on the reasons the PS2 keeps on selling. Oh and the games are cheap so I guess that is another reason the outdated PS2 keeps on going.

elbow2k

You're lumping DRE with the RROD together, when they aren't even on the same level.

Or is that some lame attempt to compare the 360 to the PS2?

A hardware problem is a hardware problem to me anyway. Does the fact the best selling console in history had a problematic start bother you? The PS2 got fixed and so will the 360.

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#18 EPaul
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[QUOTE="EPaul"]The PS2 is not a contender this Gen it will probably die by 2010Tiefster

That's not bad considering this gen started in 2005. Surviving 5 years into the next gen is quite a feat.

I know but i dont think it will sell as much as the Wii, 360 and PS3 over this Gen so it's not a contender.But for it to sell 350k last month after 8 years on the market is quite a feat

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#19 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I am telling my opinion on the reasons the PS2 keeps on selling. Oh and the games are cheap so I guess that is another reason the outdated PS2 keeps on going.

PS3_3DO

You're lumping DRE with the RROD together, when they aren't even on the same level.

Or is that some lame attempt to compare the 360 to the PS2?

A hardware problem is a hardware problem to me anyway. Does the fact the best selling console in history had a problematic start bother you? The PS2 got fixed and so will the 360.

The 360 might get fixed, but will not last like the PS2.

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#20 f50p90
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The different between the 360 RRoD and the PS2s DRE is that the PS2 was just a defective lens. The system still worked it just couldnt read a disc. And it was easily replaced

The 360 has an unfixable design flaw, and the system can die at any time, and wont even turn on. Huge difference

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#21 jangojay
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I find it ironic that when people talk about which system will last longer they bring up the PS3 or the X360.. yet the weakest system of last gen is the one going the strongest..
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#22 bearbones
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Cell phones have better graphics then the PS2 now.

PS3_3DO

Name one that looks better than God of War II.

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#23 ArisShadows
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Its not a contender but I am still waiting for a game on the PS2 to come this month.
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#24 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I am telling my opinion on the reasons the PS2 keeps on selling. Oh and the games are cheap so I guess that is another reason the outdated PS2 keeps on going.

PS3_3DO

You're lumping DRE with the RROD together, when they aren't even on the same level.

Or is that some lame attempt to compare the 360 to the PS2?

A hardware problem is a hardware problem to me anyway. Does the fact the best selling console in history had a problematic start bother you? The PS2 got fixed and so will the 360.

The problem with that statment is that DRE ocurred after time, PROD is right out of the box. Either you have a top ok 360 or a 360 that will break. DRE happens when the PS2 gets lots of dust inside the lens house and the sliding rails for the lens.

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#25 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I am telling my opinion on the reasons the PS2 keeps on selling. Oh and the games are cheap so I guess that is another reason the outdated PS2 keeps on going.

PS3_3DO

ANd that month it sold more then the 360 AND the PS3 :P

You're lumping DRE with the RROD together, when they aren't even on the same level.

Or is that some lame attempt to compare the 360 to the PS2?

A hardware problem is a hardware problem to me anyway. Does the fact the best selling console in history had a problematic start bother you? The PS2 got fixed and so will the 360.

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#26 oldvander
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It's amazing that the ps2 is still going. It gets ports from the wii these days anyway, so it has more support than it perhaps would have done. Games like budokai tenkaichi 3, tony hawks downhill jam etc. I saw that one week in japan the ps2 was only 3,000 consoles sold behind the ps3!

The ps2 deserves to still be in the console war. I wonder how many ps2 consoles were sold since the next gen started (2005 when 360 was released). I bet the Ps2 has sold more than the next gen systems from 2005-2008.

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#27 -The-Don-
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It's amazing that the ps2 is still going. It gets ports from the wii these days anyway, so it has more support than it perhaps would have done. Games like budokai tenkaichi 3, tony hawks downhill jam etc. I saw that one week in japan the ps2 was only 3,000 consoles sold behind the ps3!

The ps2 deserves to still be in the console war. I wonder how many ps2 consoles were sold since the next gen started (2005 when 360 was released). I bet the Ps2 has sold more than the next gen systems from 2005-2008.

oldvander

Very True the PS2 probably has sold more than the next gen systems from 2005-2008.

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#28 jimm895
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The PS2 could be a legend once it's discontinued in the next year or two (maybe longer). As for the disc read problem on the system it could usually be fixed at home in just a few minutes, all that was needed is to clean the lens with a dab of alcohol and a Q-tip or a lens cleaner disc would work.
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#29 Mongo-Boss
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Didn't the PS2 outsell the 360 in February?

I think it even outsold the PS3

It is still a contender in my opinion because next-gen has nothing to do with graphics and who cares if it was released earlier?

The 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 and Wii yet lemmings count the sales from that year anyway.

It still has some great games coming out like the MGS: EC, many multiplats that are being released this year, DBZ (for those who like it) and Silent Hill: Origins.

We should probably count its sales from 2005 and forward, you can make it run as an independent console or add them to the PS3's sales but I'm surre it has sold quite well.

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The PS2 could be a legend once it's discontinued in the next year or two (maybe longer). As for the disc read problem on the system it could usually be fixed at home in just a few minutes, all that was needed is to clean the lens with a dab of alcohol and a Q-tip or a lens cleaner disc would work.jimm895
Does the slim have DRE?

I have had one since launch (slim PS2) and I had never heard of the DRE till I entered gamespot.

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#31 jg4xchamp
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It has no games coming out for it.

SOnys focus is on PS3.

Third Party will focus more on PS3 than PS2.

Yes the library is big, but for me anyway i played all i really wanted to play.

Im on to the wii60.

And come June, PS3 and MGS 4.
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#32 Vectah_Sigma
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm very impressed by the PS2's sales at present, for its age it is doing a fantastic job.

For the silly fanboys who care only about sales, yes the PS2 is a contender this gen.

PS3_3DO

Cell phones have better graphics then the PS2 now.



What did your post have to do with mine?

Nothing only that the PS2 graphics are way behind the times. Another reason people buy the PS2 is to replace a broken one.

like the 360?

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[QUOTE="jimm895"]The PS2 could be a legend once it's discontinued in the next year or two (maybe longer). As for the disc read problem on the system it could usually be fixed at home in just a few minutes, all that was needed is to clean the lens with a dab of alcohol and a Q-tip or a lens cleaner disc would work.Mongo-Boss

Does the slim have DRE?

I have had one since launch (slim PS2) and I had never heard of the DRE till I entered gamespot.

I had a slim PS2 before I got a PS3 and it had a problem reading disc a couple of times and I was able to fix the problem fairly easy with what I had stated above. Unfortunatly there is a lot of dust in the area even with everything closed-up it get's in the house quite often and tends to get in all the electronics around here. I have some things that I take apart about once a year or longer. I never heard of the DRE problem until I joined this board and after getting rid of my PS2, that after I got my PS3 was just sitting and doing nothing but getting in the way.

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#34 Jacobistheman
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I am telling my opinion on the reasons the PS2 keeps on selling. Oh and the games are cheap so I guess that is another reason the outdated PS2 keeps on going.

PS3_3DO

You're lumping DRE with the RROD together, when they aren't even on the same level.

Or is that some lame attempt to compare the 360 to the PS2?

A hardware problem is a hardware problem to me anyway. Does the fact the best selling console in history had a problematic start bother you? The PS2 got fixed and so will the 360.

Well the ps2 was fixed after 2 YEARS and the 360 has not been

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#35 Bigboi500
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It will probably die out by '10 if the PS3 ever becomes reasonably priced. People still watch dvds and continue to buy PS2 games and it's no wonder PS2 and Wii are so popular. Great games, cheap price, looks great on sdtv's, cheaper games.

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supply and demandSonir77

Basically

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#37 Vivacioussoul
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It has certainly outlasted the Xbox and Gamecube. If you go on Gamerankings.com and click on Rankings and set it to games released within the past 12 months Gamecube and Xbox don't have any but PlayStation 2 has a little over 30.

That being said I wouldn't say that the PS2 is a top contender in this gen. It isn't really a part of this gen. God of War II was the last major release and yes PlayStation 2 is still "alive" but if you're looking to play current gen games, games designed with a 2008 mindset then PlayStation 2 is not the way.

It's kind of like how games like Street Fighter Alpha 2 were released on Super Nintendo in 1996. Super Nintendos were still everywhere at the time but it wasn't the system of choice for those who wanted to play the latest games. You needed a Saturn, PlayStation or Nintendo 64 for that.

Likewise this gen you need an Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, or Wii if you want to play the latest games.

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#38 -The-Don-
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PS2 is a beast its most likely going to last a while this gen!!
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