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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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PLAYSTATION 4:

AAAAE:

AAAE:

Bloodborne

AAE:

inFamous: Second Son

AE:

LittleBigPlanet 3

Killzone: Shadow Fall

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XBOX ONE:

AAAAE:

AAAE:

Forza Motorsport 5

AAE:

Forza Horizon 2

Sunset Overdrive

AE:

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WII U:

AAAAE:

Bayonetta 2

AAAE:

Super Mario 3D World

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U

AAE:

Mario Kart 8

Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker

New Super Mario Bros. U

Nintendo Land

Pikmin 3

Splatoon

Lego City Undercover

The Wonderful 101

Hyrule Warriors

AE:

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PLAYSTATION VITA

AAAAE:

AAAE:

AAE:

Freedom Wars

Tearaway

LittleBigPlanet

Ys: Memories of Celceta

DanganRonpa 2: Goodbye Despair

DanganRonpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

AE:

Uncharted: Golden Abyss

Killzone Mercenary

ModNation Racers Road Trip

Soul Sacrifice

Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational

Toukiden: Age of Demons

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NINTENDO 3DS:

AAAAE:

AAAE:

The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds

Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

AAE:

Animal Crossing: New Leaf

Fire Emblem Awakening

Kid Icarus Uprising

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U

Pokemon X/Y

Pokemon OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire

Mario Kart 7

Super Mario 3D Land

Etrian Odyssey 4: Legends of the Titan

Etrian Odyssey Untold

Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth

Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask

Bravely Default

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker

Mario and Luigi: Dream Team

Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy

Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy Curtain Call

Rhythm Thief and the Emperor's Treasure

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars

Kirby: Triple Deluxe

Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney

AE:

New Super Mario Bros. 2

Etrian Mystery Dungeon

Dead or Alive: DImensions

Paper Mario Sticker Star

Puzzles and Dragons Z

Nintendogs+Cats

Tamodachi Life

Mario Party Island Tour

Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance

Mario Golf World Tour

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That was pretty depressing to type out, honestly. If I am forgetting something, please let me know.

DISCLAIMER: I am, for now, limiting this only to retail exclusives. I want to include digital and indie games too, but the problem is, thus far, I haven't been able to find a way on Gamespot to organize a list of reviews by platform and score. Retail exclusives are easier to keep track of, so I am sticking to them. However, if someone is able to furnish me with a list of digital exclusives for all three consoles, I will happily include them in the listing.

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#2 deactivated-57de35bf0f08e
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Forgot an A for Bayonetta 2 yo.

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#3  Edited By lostrib
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@charizard1605:you're gonna get shit from both sides for LBP3 and FH2 on there

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#4  Edited By jg4xchamp
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http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-wonderful-101-review/1900-6413062/

Wonderful 101 got an 8 you piece of garbage, also Bayonetta 2 is missing an A.

Question though why does Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate count, but The Last of Us remastered wouldn't? That seems kind of stupid to pretend an updated port of a game is somehow all that different from a remaster (an updated port of a game).

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@jg4xchamp said:

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-wonderful-101-review/1900-6413062/

Wonderful 101 got an 8 you piece of garbage, also Bayonetta 2 is missing an A.

Question though why does Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate count, but The Last of Us remastered wouldn't? That seems kind of stupid to pretend an updated port of a game is somehow all that different from a remaster (an updated port of a game).

Crap, I forgot Monster Hunter was on Wii. I knocked it out (only reason I included it was the same reason I included Forza Horizon 2 and LBP3).

Removed it, fixed W101 and Bayo2.

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@charizard1605 said:
@jg4xchamp said:

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-wonderful-101-review/1900-6413062/

Wonderful 101 got an 8 you piece of garbage, also Bayonetta 2 is missing an A.

Question though why does Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate count, but The Last of Us remastered wouldn't? That seems kind of stupid to pretend an updated port of a game is somehow all that different from a remaster (an updated port of a game).

Crap, I forgot Monster Hunter was on Wii. I knocked it out (only reason I included it was the same reason I included Forza Horizon 2 and LBP3).

Removed it, fixed W101 and Bayo2.

Shouldn't have listed them, you know what the word exclusive means. My guess is that one is avoided because then we end up in fishy territory with Smash?

Side note: Is now the best time to ask why even pretend there is a meta game and hype stuff? Because the fucks that are given to this shit feel like they are nonexistent after a quick 1 hour of "LOL OWNED" and we all move on.

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#7  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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By Gamespot reviews alone... The Wii U is still the best reviewed console on the market atm. lol

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Does New Super Luigi U count as I believe it got an 8.5 and got a physical release. Other than that I think you got the list correct, quite depressing as it is.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@charizard1605 said:
@jg4xchamp said:

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-wonderful-101-review/1900-6413062/

Wonderful 101 got an 8 you piece of garbage, also Bayonetta 2 is missing an A.

Question though why does Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate count, but The Last of Us remastered wouldn't? That seems kind of stupid to pretend an updated port of a game is somehow all that different from a remaster (an updated port of a game).

Crap, I forgot Monster Hunter was on Wii. I knocked it out (only reason I included it was the same reason I included Forza Horizon 2 and LBP3).

Removed it, fixed W101 and Bayo2.

Shouldn't have listed them, you know what the word exclusive means. My guess is that one is avoided because then we end up in fishy territory with Smash?

Side note: Is now the best time to ask why even pretend there is a meta game and hype stuff? Because the fucks that are given to this shit feel like they are nonexistent after a quick 1 hour of "LOL OWNED" and we all move on.

No, actually. Mostly, it was to make sure the Xbox list would have something, it had two games otherwise, and that was getting sad.

I mean, I could remove LBP3 and Horizon 2, that would leave it equal w.r.t each other for the twins anyway.

Smash 3DS and Smash U are different games made on the same engine, so that wasn't anything I considered. Worst case, I would knock it out too, and then each console loses one exclusive. Nothing loses, nothing wins.

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Does New Super Luigi U count as I believe it got an 8.5 and got a physical release. Other than that I think you got the list correct, quite depressing as it is.

RIght, that counts. So should First Light, or it would, but it got a 6, so it doesn't.

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depressing lists.

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no vita??

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Why are you trying to limit the metagame to exclusives only? Granted it's a hopelessly out of date and broken way to play the Throne of Games, but iirc didn't they at least include entire retail libraries? This way is even more separated from reality than ever...

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Slim pickin's on PS4 and Xbox One.

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@TrappedInABox91 said:

By Gamespot reviews alone... The Wii U is still the best reviewed console on the market atm. lol

Until you start counting the Digital games & Multiplats. lol

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Why is DLC getting put on there, but downloadable stuff isn't?

Because that's some bullshit.

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@jg4xchamp said:

Why is DLC getting put on there, but downloadable stuff isn't?

Because that's some bullshit.

..because it justifies their purchase.

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@OhSnapitz said:
@TrappedInABox91 said:

By Gamespot reviews alone... The Wii U is still the best reviewed console on the market atm. lol

Until you start counting the Digital games & Multiplats. lol

Don't worry man, apparently all the nintendo cats have a gaming PC now.

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The metagame never relied on exclusives only.

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@Blabadon said:

The metagame never relied on exclusives only.

..apparently this gen it does.. until the PS4/XBO start hitting their strides. Then the rules will change again.

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#21 Blabadon
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@OhSnapitz: yep, which is stupid. There's plenty to play going around, multiplats are just more prevalent.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@OhSnapitz said:
@TrappedInABox91 said:

By Gamespot reviews alone... The Wii U is still the best reviewed console on the market atm. lol

Until you start counting the Digital games & Multiplats. lol

Don't worry man, apparently all the nintendo cats have a gaming PC now.

and you dont have a gamming PC?

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@OhSnapitz: yep, which is stupid. There's plenty to play going around, multiplats are just more prevalent.

Yea.. like let's completely dismiss the newest member to the AAAA club because it's "teh multiplat".... not on Nintendo's platform.

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@OhSnapitz said:
@Blabadon said:

The metagame never relied on exclusives only.

..apparently this gen it does.. until the PS4/XBO start hitting their strides. Then the rules will change again.

It's a global conspiracy.

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@jg4xchamp said:

Why is DLC getting put on there, but downloadable stuff isn't?

Because that's some bullshit.

Chill, I decided against putting it there after all :p

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@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Don't worry man, apparently all the nintendo cats have a gaming PC now.

and you dont have a gamming PC?

I do own a gaming PC, what's your point? I didn't know we were making Champ's metagame.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Don't worry man, apparently all the nintendo cats have a gaming PC now.

and you dont have a gamming PC?

I do own a gaming PC, what's your point? I didn't know we were making Champ's metagame.

you say only nintendo gamers need a PC... fact is...even ps4 and x1 owners need a PC.

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Basically, Nintendo be smashing it.

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lol vita

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@KBFloYd: No he didn't. He's saying Nintendo fans act like they have PCs to downplay the multiplats found on other consoles but not the Wii U

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@Blabadon said:

@KBFloYd: No he didn't. He's saying Nintendo fans act like they have PCs to downplay the multiplats found on other consoles but not the Wii U

its the truth...multiplats are better on PC...no?

why would nintendo owners get a ps4 or x1 instead of a pc?

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@Blabadon said:

@KBFloYd: No he didn't. He's saying Nintendo fans act like they have PCs to downplay the multiplats found on other consoles but not the Wii U

Yeah that, and realistically speaking the PS4 and Xbox One crowd would not be in need of a PC as badly as a WiiU owner would need a PS4, Xbox One, or a PC to make up for the lion's share of games that platform misses out on.

But I'm sure this is the part where we begin to argue on how chicken isn't poultry.

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#33  Edited By Zlurodirom
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This is why I built a PC to compliment my 3DS this generation. Was thinking about Xbox One and PS4 for FFXV and KH3, but hopefully they'll come to PC.

This list is extra pathetic when you realize that the anemic Nintendo game lineup of the Wii U in 2.5 years is destroying the PS4+Xbox One lineup in a combined 3 years. Why are people buying these systems again?

*Edit: Even Vita looks good when compared to these current gen consoles.

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@lundy86_4 said:

Basically, Nintendo be smashing it.

Nice

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This was a mistake.

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@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:
@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Don't worry man, apparently all the nintendo cats have a gaming PC now.

and you dont have a gamming PC?

I do own a gaming PC, what's your point? I didn't know we were making Champ's metagame.

you say only nintendo gamers need a PC... fact is...even ps4 and x1 owners need a PC.

..fact is.. they don't.

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Oh wait! You added handhelds!? Way to stomp the Vita down more than it already is. Its a fact that PS just gave up on it, while Ninty are still going strong.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@Blabadon said:

@KBFloYd: No he didn't. He's saying Nintendo fans act like they have PCs to downplay the multiplats found on other consoles but not the Wii U

Yeah that, and realistically speaking the PS4 and Xbox One crowd would not be in need of a PC as badly as a WiiU owner would need a PS4, Xbox One, or a PC to make up for the lion's share of games that platform misses out on.

But I'm sure this is the part where we begin to argue on how chicken isn't poultry.

you own all 3 consoles right? and you still got a gamming PC?

fact is...PC is like the salt to food. the console is the food and the pc is the salt.

despite if you own and x1, ps4...or a wiiU.

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@OhSnapitz said:
@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:
@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Don't worry man, apparently all the nintendo cats have a gaming PC now.

and you dont have a gamming PC?

I do own a gaming PC, what's your point? I didn't know we were making Champ's metagame.

you say only nintendo gamers need a PC... fact is...even ps4 and x1 owners need a PC.

..fact is.. they don't.

Fact is, they do.

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#40  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@TrappedInABox91 said:

Oh wait! You added handhelds!? Way to stomp the Vita down more than it already is. Its a fact that PS just gave up on it, while Ninty are still going strong.

The Vita? That 3DS clowns everything else on that list. Put together.

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@charizard1605 said:

This was a mistake.

lol, i could have told you that and saved you the trouble

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#42  Edited By jg4xchamp
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@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Yeah that, and realistically speaking the PS4 and Xbox One crowd would not be in need of a PC as badly as a WiiU owner would need a PS4, Xbox One, or a PC to make up for the lion's share of games that platform misses out on.

But I'm sure this is the part where we begin to argue on how chicken isn't poultry.

you own all 3 consoles right? and you still got a gamming PC?

fact is...PC is like the salt to food. the console is the food and the pc is the salt.

despite if you own and x1, ps4...or a wiiU.

actually the PC is the food, everything else is the sides.

This food analogy aside, I didn't need any console necessarily, I wanted said consoles, and I expect them to earn daddy's love. They haven't done a good enough job earning daddy's love that one can only assume is that none of them are good enough to be called mashed potatoes. The PS4 and Xbox One are good enough systems to carry you an entire gen on their multiplats and indie stuff alone. Likewise the PC is good enough the consoles aren't even worth spitting on, much less spending the money I did on those consoles to have 3 dust collector's for an exclusive here and there. But the WiiU? if that's your primary game machine, and you are an enthusiast of this medium (which you would be posting on this forum), you will need another gaming system.

You simply miss out on way too many games and give yourself the shortest selection of games. With the PC? you don't do that. The PS4 and Xbox One? smaller selection vs the PC, but a giant gap in terms of how many options you will have in terms of game selection vs the WiiU.

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Well it's a good thing that only sales numbers and resolution count this generation.

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@Zen_Light said:
@OhSnapitz said:
@KBFloYd said:

you say only nintendo gamers need a PC... fact is...even ps4 and x1 owners need a PC.

..fact is.. they don't.

Fact is, they do.

..you honestly believe that's staying exclusive?

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#45  Edited By Zen_Light
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@OhSnapitz: Hell no. :P

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@jg4xchamp said:
@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Yeah that, and realistically speaking the PS4 and Xbox One crowd would not be in need of a PC as badly as a WiiU owner would need a PS4, Xbox One, or a PC to make up for the lion's share of games that platform misses out on.

But I'm sure this is the part where we begin to argue on how chicken isn't poultry.

you own all 3 consoles right? and you still got a gamming PC?

fact is...PC is like the salt to food. the console is the food and the pc is the salt.

despite if you own and x1, ps4...or a wiiU.

actually the PC is the food, everything else is the sides.

This food analogy aside, I didn't need any console necessarily, I wanted said consoles, and I expect them to earn daddy's love. They haven't done a good enough job earning daddy's love that one can only assume is that none of them are good enough to be called mashed potatoes. The PS4 and Xbox One are good enough systems to carry you an entire gen on their multiplats and indie stuff alone. Likewise the PC is good enough the consoles aren't even worth spitting on, much less spending the money I did on those consoles to have 3 dust collector's for an exclusive here and there. But the WiiU? if that's your primary game machine, and you are an enthusiast of this medium (which you would be posting on this forum), you will need another gaming system.

You simply miss out on way too many games and give yourself the shortest selection of games. With the PC? you don't do that. The PS4 and Xbox One? smaller selection vs the PC, but a giant gap in terms of how many options you will have in terms of game selection vs the WiiU.

actually....anyone who only owns 1 system is a noob.

anyone who is a gamer owns at least two systems.

last gen the noobs were fine with just a wii...which had no third party. no one cared.

itsw not because of the games. that only matters to the gamer. most are happy with a ps4 because they are noobs. not because nintendo doesnt have 3rd party.

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@TrappedInABox91: The Vita still has more AAA games than the 3DS

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#48  Edited By kinectthedots
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I remember when the Metagame (360 era) was all about the most high scoring games AA, AAA. (exclusive requirement N/A)

Then suddenly that definition expanded or LOWERED it's requirement to be considered HIGH scoring to included A rated games making it the most A, AA and AAA games. Hell might as well have expanded to who has the most games overall huh lems?

The spreadsheet was only created to exploit the 360 1 year launch advantage so xbox fanboys could have an easy win in arguments last gen, but the "rules" kept changing whenever PS3 was close or beat 360 in those original categories til it was done away with.

lol, that used to be a thing (easy win) when xbox 360 launched 1 year before Nintendo or Sony but now it's all about exclusives haha, not hard to figure out why that list and the "rules" disappeared when things changed in favor of of the other HD system called playstation.

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@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

actually the PC is the food, everything else is the sides.

This food analogy aside, I didn't need any console necessarily, I wanted said consoles, and I expect them to earn daddy's love. They haven't done a good enough job earning daddy's love that one can only assume is that none of them are good enough to be called mashed potatoes. The PS4 and Xbox One are good enough systems to carry you an entire gen on their multiplats and indie stuff alone. Likewise the PC is good enough the consoles aren't even worth spitting on, much less spending the money I did on those consoles to have 3 dust collector's for an exclusive here and there. But the WiiU? if that's your primary game machine, and you are an enthusiast of this medium (which you would be posting on this forum), you will need another gaming system.

You simply miss out on way too many games and give yourself the shortest selection of games. With the PC? you don't do that. The PS4 and Xbox One? smaller selection vs the PC, but a giant gap in terms of how many options you will have in terms of game selection vs the WiiU.

actually....anyone who only owns 1 system is a noob.

Bullshit, why? you miss out at most 5 or maybe 6 games in a fantastic year, that are actually great if you are going solo on PC. You get a large selection of games covering various genres, including under the radar stuff that tends to have richer gameplay than the standard stuff being done in the 60 dollar space.

missing out on a handful of good games? big whoop, the PC has no shortage of good games. You can easily be satiated by the offerings on that platform so this mentality of "you have to own multiple" gaming systems doesn't actually fly.

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#50  Edited By GreySeal9
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@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:
@KBFloYd said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Yeah that, and realistically speaking the PS4 and Xbox One crowd would not be in need of a PC as badly as a WiiU owner would need a PS4, Xbox One, or a PC to make up for the lion's share of games that platform misses out on.

But I'm sure this is the part where we begin to argue on how chicken isn't poultry.

you own all 3 consoles right? and you still got a gamming PC?

fact is...PC is like the salt to food. the console is the food and the pc is the salt.

despite if you own and x1, ps4...or a wiiU.

actually the PC is the food, everything else is the sides.

This food analogy aside, I didn't need any console necessarily, I wanted said consoles, and I expect them to earn daddy's love. They haven't done a good enough job earning daddy's love that one can only assume is that none of them are good enough to be called mashed potatoes. The PS4 and Xbox One are good enough systems to carry you an entire gen on their multiplats and indie stuff alone. Likewise the PC is good enough the consoles aren't even worth spitting on, much less spending the money I did on those consoles to have 3 dust collector's for an exclusive here and there. But the WiiU? if that's your primary game machine, and you are an enthusiast of this medium (which you would be posting on this forum), you will need another gaming system.

You simply miss out on way too many games and give yourself the shortest selection of games. With the PC? you don't do that. The PS4 and Xbox One? smaller selection vs the PC, but a giant gap in terms of how many options you will have in terms of game selection vs the WiiU.

actually....anyone who only owns 1 system is a noob.

Not really. Last gen you could easily get by with just a PS3 or 360. They had tons of games.

That's not the case with the PS4 but that has more to do with this gen being really slow to get started.

Wii U has the most good exclusives and it will probably continue to do so, but I can't imagine any situation in which having only a Wii U will be sufficient whereas I can see that happening with PS4, long as it may take to get to that point.