The cut down PS3 must have had something else removed......

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#1 Stonin
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So they announced the new 40gb PS3 at the cheaper price. Hooray for all those who didn't already buy one. However, i've been wondering about its supposed complete lack of backwards compatibility.

Remember when the PS3 launch in the Europe and the big stink about them removing the emotion chip and returning to pure software emulation? Now surely there can't be licensing costs involved in Sony emulating their own hardware through software and seeing as how that software is also up and running on the PS3 at the moment, how is Sony saving themselves money by removing the support from the machine?

USB ports, fine, Card Reader, fine, Smaller HDD, fine but no propriatory software?

So, have Sony been lying about a lack of emotion chip in European PS3's? Not likely. Have they got rid of their own software to save money when software replicated on HDD costs nothing anyway? Not likely. Have they removed another piece of hardware from the PS3-Lite that they haven't told us about? Most likely.

I wonder what other nasty surprises might be in store with the cheap version if it is missing hardware that they don't want to tell us about?

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#2 marklarmer
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it has no bluray drive.;)
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#3 Stonin
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it has no bluray drive.;)marklarmer

Yup and instead of a HDD it comes with a pad of paper, a pen and a binary translator. To save a game you mustwrite down the 26 billion digitcodeand re-input it everytime you want to load.

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#4 metalisticpain
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really? no blu ray
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What else could they cut back on? Cant be bluray, all their games are made on bluray...um. B/C, check. HDD space, check. Memory card readers, check. USB ports, check. Really, what else is there that hasnt pretty much been standard from day one?
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#6 Ocktober17
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PS1/PS2 Bios chips have also been removed now to save on cost.
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#7 Stonin
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What else could they cut back on? Cant be bluray, all their games are made on bluray...um. B/C, check. HDD space, check. Memory card readers, check. USB ports, check. Really, what else is there that hasnt pretty much been standard from day one?Spartan8907

I really don't know what they have removed but it is hard to believe that they made no other changes than the ones they listed and all of a sudden you can't play any PS2 games....something is fishy if you ask me and it isn't the fishmongers daughter.

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#8 Stonin
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PS1/PS2 Bios chips have also been removed now to save on cost.Ocktober17

Ahh could be. Do you have a link?

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[QUOTE="Ocktober17"]PS1/PS2 Bios chips have also been removed now to save on cost.Stonin

Ahh could be. Do you have a link?

It did happen already. Can't you read ^^^. With the 80 gig Ps3.

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#10 jyoung312
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no they didn't really cut anything else. i'm surprised they kept wifi. They reduced production cost of blu-ray, improved chip production, and made contracts to cut development costs. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't really lose a lot on the 40gb model.
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#11 Nathan_Drake
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Maybe the new model is cheaper cause it can die on you any second just like the 360 has for the past 2 years.

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#12 PSP107
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lol@ PS3 Lite Lol@ No Blu Ray
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#13 ACwillbeamazing
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well it also has a smaller hardrive...
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#14 Solid_Max13
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All of those are real and yes because of the emtoion engine for b/c it does actually make it cheaper trust me.
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#15 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

[QUOTE="Ocktober17"]PS1/PS2 Bios chips have also been removed now to save on cost.GatoFeo

Ahh could be. Do you have a link?

It did happen already. Can't you read ^^^. With the 80 gig Ps3.

LOL read my post before asking me if i can read. The emotion engine has ALREADY BEEN REMOVED from the EUROPEAN PS3 yet it STILL HAS BC. They said it used software emulation so I am wondering why the same software can't be included in the cheaper PS3? It must be Sony's own software so they don't have to pay themselves royalties....

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#16 Stonin
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no they didn't really cut anything else. i'm surprised they kept wifi. They reduced production cost of blu-ray, improved chip production, and made contracts to cut development costs. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't really lose a lot on the 40gb model.jyoung312

Then why did they cut out the BC if they didn't remove anything else?

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They removed the Graphics Synthesizer chip (GS) in addition to the emotion engine (EE) hence why it cannot play PS2 games.
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#18 Stonin
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They removed the Graphics Synthesizer chip (GS) in addition to the emotion engine (EE) hence why it cannot play PS2 games.subrosian

See now that would make some sense. I just didn't see it in their press release and seeing as many people think they will add this back in at some point I think it's worth clearing up.

Do you have any sort of link to Sony saying this?

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#19 prodigyofpeace
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really? no blu raymetalisticpain
no its not possible, ps3 games run off of blu ray. Thats like saying bakers cut down on flour to save money on their bread.
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]it has no bluray drive.;)Stonin

Yup and instead of a HDD it comes with a pad of paper, a pen and a binary translator. To save a game you mustwrite down the 26 billion digitcodeand re-input it everytime you want to load.

lol lol :D

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So they announced the new 40gb PS3 at the cheaper price. Hooray for all those who didn't already buy one. However, i've been wondering about its supposed complete lack of backwards compatibility.

Remember when the PS3 launch in the Europe and the big stink about them removing the emotion chip and returning to pure software emulation? Now surely there can't be licensing costs involved in Sony emulating their own hardware through software and seeing as how that software is also up and running on the PS3 at the moment, how is Sony saving themselves money by removing the support from the machine?

USB ports, fine, Card Reader, fine, Smaller HDD, fine but no propriatory software?

So, have Sony been lying about a lack of emotion chip in European PS3's? Not likely. Have they got rid of their own software to save money when software replicated on HDD costs nothing anyway? Not likely. Have they removed another piece of hardware from the PS3-Lite that they haven't told us about? Most likely.

I wonder what other nasty surprises might be in store with the cheap version if it is missing hardware that they don't want to tell us about?

Stonin

They didn't remove the BC to bring down the price of manufacturing the console. They did it to try to make people buy the more expensive SKUs, since they lose less money on the more expensive models.