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#1 nextgengaming18
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Hellgate london couldĀ be a big time goty contender for 2007. This could be the pinnacle of the blending of many genres, into one, making one of the greatest games of all time. Formed by some of the head's of blizzard north (the creators of diablo, and diablo 2) have been making a game for around 4 years. A very widely known status for making goty contenders, and for its new creativity can actually win won. This, mass effect, lair, heavenly sword, Ā and crysis are the best known original ip's this year. It appears though that this game will most likely sell the most out of all 5 of the new ip's.

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What kind of computer will I need to run this?
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What kind of computer will I need to run this?Jandurin
I don't know. But I am willing to spend extra for this and crysis.
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#4 project343
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I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.
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#5 thizzinpeace
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isnt this coming to xbox 360 also if so ill be really happy theres this game called sacred 2 or sometin comin for xbox 360 spose to be like diablo and its got online too im waiting for that game also
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I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.project343
And what is exciting about mass effect? It is just a blatantly the same game as kotor with better graphics. There isn't any originality to the game, unlike this.
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I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.project343
and too human is not? btw hell gate london is going to be awesome.Ā 
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[QUOTE="project343"]I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.alfy13
and too human is not? btw hell gate london is going to be awesome.Ā 

This is a fps, tps, sword fighting, platformer, rpg game. I don't know what to call this game.
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This game will be the best game this year and for quite some time if it lives up to D2s legacy.

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#10 PaintballinDude
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It will flop because its called a diablo killer.
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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="project343"]I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.nextgengaming18
and too human is not? btw hell gate london is going to be awesome.

This is a fps, tps, sword fighting, platformer, rpg game. I don't know what to call this game.

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Awesome.

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#12 project343
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And what is exciting about mass effect? It is just a blatantly the same game as kotor with better graphics. There isn't any originality to the game, unlike this.nextgengaming18


Mass Effect has the story, where as I have yet to see anything even remotely interesting withĀ  Hellgate London's story. Even then, KOTOR was hardly a hack 'n' slash game, as it divided the gameplay up with conversations, puzzle solving, and exploring.

and too human is not. btw hell gate london is going to be awesome. alfy13


Based on what I've seen, Too Human favors quality over quantity -- something Hellgate London does not.
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#13 reaperstoll
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It will flop because its called a diablo killer.PaintballinDude

Its made by some of the original guys who did diablo and d2, if anything has a chance to kill diablo this is it.

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isnt this coming to xbox 360 also if so ill be really happy theres this game called sacred 2 or sometin comin for xbox 360 spose to be like diablo and its got online too im waiting for that game alsothizzinpeace
It is coming to Xbox 360. But, the only proof I have is in an article of OXM a few months back. I can't post it :(
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#15 alfy13
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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="project343"]I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.nextgengaming18
and too human is not? btw hell gate london is going to be awesome.Ā 

This is a fps, tps, sword fighting, platformer, rpg game. I don't know what to call this game.

im talking about Project mindless grinding comment. isnt too human the same? i thought i was since it has the so called rpg element to it.
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#16 agentfred
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This game will be the best game this year and for quite some time if it lives up to D2s legacy.

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I don't think anything can beat d2

But this may be the closest we've seen a in a long while.Ā 

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#17 agentfred
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How is it going to be priced?
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#18 smokeydabear076
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I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.project343
Diablo II was basically the same, but it still is one of the best games I have ever played. Games can be great with more simplistic gameplay, if Diablo II isn't a good enough example, just look at Serious Sam.
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#19 project343
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im talking about Project mindless grinding comment. isnt too human the same? i thought i was since it has the so called rpg element to it. alfy13


I only consider games to be mindless grinds if there's a huge lack of story, and/or lack of diversity of gameplay between expansive combat scenarios. By this definition, I don't consider Devil May Cry/Ninja Gaiden/God of War hack 'n' slash/grind-fest titles, where as the same cannot be said for games like Dynasty Warriors, and Titan Quest. Too Human (from what we've seen) appears to fall under the non-hack 'n' slash/grind-fest genre, by my definition.
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[QUOTE="alfy13"]im talking about Project mindless grinding comment. isnt too human the same? i thought i was since it has the so called rpg element to it. project343


I only consider games to be mindless grinds if there's a huge lack of story, and/or lack of diversity of gameplay between expansive combat scenarios. By this definition, I don't consider Devil May Cry/Ninja Gaiden/God of War hack 'n' slash/grind-fest titles, where as the same cannot be said for games like Dynasty Warriors, and Titan Quest. Too Human (from what we've seen) appears to fall under the non-hack 'n' slash/grind-fest genre, by my definition.

do you knwo what mindless grinding means? its like if you just grind your lvl in WOWĀ  or in Diablo or just grinding for loot. too human to me has the same type of game play. since you do gain lvls and loot etc.
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#21 project343
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Diablo II was basically the same, but it still is one of the best games I have ever played. Games can be great with more simplistic gameplay, if Diablo II isn't a good enough example, just look at Serious Sam.smokeydabear076


And this is where my lack of understanding comes in, as I detest both Diablo II, and Serious Sam. Whilst I have a mutual respect for Diablo for its success, and Blizzard's name behind it, I see both titles as quantity over quality. Hellgate London is no different.
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#22 Truth01
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I don't quite understand the hype for Hellgate London. I mean, it's essentially a hack 'n' slash game in FPS form -- mindless grinding, that's all it looks like.project343
It's pretty Diablo II with guns, that's the hype and the quote on the box. It's also what sold me.
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#23 thizzinpeace
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[QUOTE="thizzinpeace"]isnt this coming to xbox 360 also if so ill be really happy theres this game called sacred 2 or sometin comin for xbox 360 spose to be like diablo and its got online too im waiting for that game alsodlind70
It is coming to Xbox 360. But, the only proof I have is in an article of OXM a few months back. I can't post it :(

Ā  are you serious thats hecka cool im hecka getting this game then hopefuly its on windows live and xbox players can play with pc players
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Uh Diablo killer?Ā  Pretty easy to kill a game that's very, very old.Ā 

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Uh Diablo killer? Pretty easy to kill a game that's very, very old.

NobuoMusicMaker

Diablo 2 was a Diablo killer. Nothing has killed Diablo 2 and this is the only thing that looks like it stands a chance. Also CS 1.6 and source illustrate just how hard it is to kill a very very old game.Ā 

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Uh Diablo killer? Pretty easy to kill a game that's very, very old.

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It hasn't been done yet.Ā 

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#27 project343
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do you knwo what mindless grinding means? its like if you just grind your lvl in WOW or in Diablo or just grinding for loot. too human to me has the same type of game play. since you do gain lvls and loot etc. alfy13


I consider mindless grinding to be an onslaught of simplistic, easy AI in which the combat scenarios play out the exact same every time. This onslaught isn't halted by diversity, or by story elements. In these mindless games, quest worth, and back-story is questionable, and offers little to advance the plot, but are rather used as a way to tack on game hours.

RPG elements =/= mindless grinding (if the gameplay design is tackled a certain way).
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Diablo II was basically the same, but it still is one of the best games I have ever played. Games can be great with more simplistic gameplay, if Diablo II isn't a good enough example, just look at Serious Sam.project343


And this is where my lack of understanding comes in, as I detest both Diablo II, and Serious Sam. Whilst I have a mutual respect for Diablo for its success, and Blizzard's name behind it, I see both titles as quantity over quality. Hellgate London is no different.

I guess you will never understand what mindless fun is all about. The first FPS games lacked in storyline, but delivered in the gameplay and fun factor. Some people are looking for fun and others a story. You seem to be looking for a story, so these games will probably never fit your taste.
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[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Diablo II was basically the same, but it still is one of the best games I have ever played. Games can be great with more simplistic gameplay, if Diablo II isn't a good enough example, just look at Serious Sam.smokeydabear076


And this is where my lack of understanding comes in, as I detest both Diablo II, and Serious Sam. Whilst I have a mutual respect for Diablo for its success, and Blizzard's name behind it, I see both titles as quantity over quality. Hellgate London is no different.

I guess you will never understand what mindless fun is all about. The first FPS games lacked in storyline, but delivered in the gameplay and fun factor. Some people are looking for fun and others a story. You seem to be looking for a story, so these games will probably never fit your taste.

Nah, he gave geow a 9.6, and pdz a 8.7. I hardly see him looking for a story. I think he is looking for any any game that is published by microsoft for xbox 360.
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I'm not too interested in this either. Though I may pick it up if the online is free. I've heard stuff about subscription fees, and I'm not touching if it's true. >_>
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[QUOTE="dlind70"][QUOTE="thizzinpeace"]isnt this coming to xbox 360 also if so ill be really happy theres this game called sacred 2 or sometin comin for xbox 360 spose to be like diablo and its got online too im waiting for that game alsothizzinpeace
It is coming to Xbox 360. But, the only proof I have is in an article of OXM a few months back. I can't post it :(

are you serious thats hecka cool im hecka getting this game then hopefuly its on windows live and xbox players can play with pc players

I don't think it was ever made official that there is a definite port, but Namco Bandai said they wanted to port it to 360.Ā 

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[QUOTE="alfy13"]im talking about Project mindless grinding comment. isnt too human the same? i thought i was since it has the so called rpg element to it. project343


I only consider games to be mindless grinds if there's a huge lack of story, and/or lack of diversity of gameplay between expansive combat scenarios. By this definition, I don't consider Devil May Cry/Ninja Gaiden/God of War hack 'n' slash/grind-fest titles, where as the same cannot be said for games like Dynasty Warriors, and Titan Quest. Too Human (from what we've seen) appears to fall under the non-hack 'n' slash/grind-fest genre, by my definition.

Then Hellgate:London isnt a hack'n'slash grindfest either.

Hellgate:London won nominations for Best PC game and Best RPG from the official E3 critics. Along with Best RPG's were heavy weights like Mass Effect, FF XII, and World of Warcraft expansion.

I can see how the game might not appeal to you, but i cant see how any of those nominated games are bad.Ā 

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I'm not too interested in this either. Though I may pick it up if the online is free. I've heard stuff about subscription fees, and I'm not touching if it's true. >_>PannicAtack

I hope there aren't subscription fees, but haven't read anything definite. That would make me seriously reconsider picking up the game if it isn't reviewed as vastly superior to D2.

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#35 project343
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I guess you will never understand what mindless fun is all about. The first FPS games lacked in storyline, but delivered in the gameplay and fun factor. Some people are looking for fun and others a story. You seem to be looking for a story, so these games will probably never fit your taste.smokeydabear076


Not necessarily. For an RPG, I expect a great story. For a shooter, I expect entertaining gameplay, but I don't find mindless fun, well, fun. Thanks for a positive response though...


Nah, he gave geow a 9.6, and pdz a 8.7. I hardly see him looking for a story. I think he is looking for any any game that is published by microsoft for xbox 360.nextgengaming18

Ignorance, System Wars is just filled with it. Thanks for a complete waste of my time though...

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#36 smokeydabear076
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I'm not too interested in this either. Though I may pick it up if the online is free. I've heard stuff about subscription fees, and I'm not touching if it's true. >_>PannicAtack
I am not so keen on the subscription fees as well. Hopefully there are none.
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#37 Donkey_Puncher
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Looks interesting, but I couldn't say it blew me away.Ā 

I would rather just have Diablo 3.Ā 

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I guess you will never understand what mindless fun is all about. The first FPS games lacked in storyline, but delivered in the gameplay and fun factor. Some people are looking for fun and others a story. You seem to be looking for a story, so these games will probably never fit your taste.project343



Not necessarily. For an RPG, I expect a great story. For a shooter, I expect entertaining gameplay, but I don't find mindless fun, well, fun. Thanks for a positive response though...


Nah, he gave geow a 9.6, and pdz a 8.7. I hardly see him looking for a story. I think he is looking for any any game that is published by microsoft for xbox 360.nextgengaming18

Ignorance, System Wars is just filled with it. Thanks for a complete waste of my time though...

You could state that this game is a shooter, considering it is in fps, and you do use guns.. You should look it up sometime before you bash the game. It might have a great story it might not. Same can be said about mass effect too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate_london

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#39 evilbarbarian
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I'm hyped for this game. If there's a monthly fee though, I'll pass.
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#40 Makari
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Looks interesting, but I couldn't say it blew me away.

I would rather just have Diablo 3.

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What's in a name? :) Many of the people who made Diablo 1 and 2 are working on this game now instead. Similar to the GH+GH2 -> Rock Band vs. GH+GH2 -> GH3. One of the sequels has the 'name,' the other game has the 'people that actually MADE the first two games.' I'd rather have the people.
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#41 Marka1700
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Only thing that could kill D2 is D3, and I dont see that happening in the next decade.
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#42 project343
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It might have a great story it might not. Same can be said about mass effect too.

nextgengaming18


Mass Effect is a trilogy with a prequel book releasing, and it's made by (IMO) the greatest story telling developers out there, Bioware.

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#43 poovine
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Why put down one game to bring another game up. Mass Effect, HG: L, and Too Human are all going to be great in their own ways. Mass Effect will have the huge open world and story locked down, HG: L will have great D2 style multiplayerĀ  with randomized maps and items, Too Human will have complex combat coupled with heavy RPG leveling, skill trees, and item drops.

BTW I hope HG:L takes players away from WoW, so Blizzard can get off their greedy asses and make SC2 and D3 already.