The Difference Between Xbox Live Advertising & Cable Advertising

www.kotaku.com/5305087/ads-coming-to-xbox-360-dashboard/

Now, i was reading and some lemmings said that this advertising is no different that advertisements on Cable

There is a BIG difference between cable advertisements and cable commericals.

Commericals on cable is what pays the people who make TV Shows. No Commercials = No $$$ For people who make the TV Shows = No Good TV Shows. (ive taken 1 1/2 years of TV Studies, i know this stuff by heart) The Advertiser pays the TV Channel $$$ to put their commercial during a certain timeslot, then a % of what is paid goes to the show that the commercial is being put into.

The Advertisements that Microsoft is doing, is just For profit.

There is a difference between Cable Advertising & Xbox Live Advertising.

Thats not real! Thats a screen of an older version of the dashboard before it came out with ads slaped on there with MS paint.

They gotta get profit streams somehow into Microsoft, and it doesn't have to cost the user anything extra, so whatever.Phazevariance

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

the ads are only for Last.fm at the moment. calm yourselves. lol

the ads are only for Last.fm at the moment. calm yourselves. lol

tikki25x

[QUOTE="tikki25x"]

the ads are only for Last.fm at the moment. calm yourselves. lol

loadedboon

Um... Microsoft has no say in whether or not a game supports Games for Windows Live... that would be the developers of the games... Nice try though.

and they failed hard on the pc with Windows Live trying to get Hermits to play for online playloadedboon

Online play is free on GFW.

[QUOTE="loadedboon"][QUOTE="tikki25x"]

the ads are only for Last.fm at the moment. calm yourselves. lol

Um... Microsoft has no say in whether or not a game supports Games for Windows Live... that would be the developers of the games... Nice try though.

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[QUOTE="loadedboon"] and this kind of thinking is why M$ can keep milking the lemmings with xbox live and they failed hard on the pc with Windows Live trying to get Hermits to play for online play. It seems Lemmings just want to be milked and love to pay $50 year to have ads on their dashboard instead of thinking why are we paying M$ $50 and accept ads don't they make enough money out of our wallets already?loadedboon

Um... Microsoft has no say in whether or not a game supports Games for Windows Live... that would be the developers of the games... Nice try though.

I don't see how paying for a premium service means I am being used like a tool...? Especially since it is only $50 for an entire year... Also... I am not a lemming... I own a 360, PS3 and a PC and play them all...

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]and they failed hard on the pc with Windows Live trying to get Hermits to play for online playCherokee_Jack

Online play is free on GFW.

There's more than one business model that includes advertising. Magazines and newspapers for instance. Both are supported by subscriptions as well as ads which is a widely accepted practice.

And what about in-game advertisements? Product placement in movies and TV shows?

Once ads interrupt my gaming experience, I'll start complaining. Otherwise, it really isn't a big deal.

You had to go to a specialized school and learn TV studies for a year and a half just to know that commercials on television pay for the shows...?

*cough cough* I think this guy is slow... *cough*

And who cares if Microsoft has advertisements on Live...? Most of them are for actual things on Live like releases/DLC/Movies/Netflix etc... not just advertisements in general... and they don't interrupt anything... I am never forced to look at advertisements while I am playing games (unless the games themselves have advertisements)...

Squeets

why is this such a big problem? oh ok there will be ads...will this affect your gaming experience?

why is this such a big problem? oh ok there will be ads...will this affect your gaming experience?

sikanderahmed

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why is this such a big problem? oh ok there will be ads...will this affect your gaming experience?

Tjeremiah1988

its £30 a year because it iscurrently the best online service on any console

bill gates is really a pirate that just wants your booty

bill gates is really a pirate that just wants your booty

eo_the_shaman

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

why is this such a big problem? oh ok there will be ads...will this affect your gaming experience?

sikanderahmed

its £30 a year because it iscurrently the best online service on any console

When I see the others getting Live like service all for free, then I will question about that HEFTY sum of $50 for a whole year. If my whole dashboard is coverd like a racing car, I would also question.

www.kotaku.com/5305087/ads-coming-to-xbox-360-dashboard/

Now, i was reading and some lemmings said that this advertising is no different that advertisements on Cable

There is a BIG difference between cable advertisements and cable commericals.

Commericals on cable is what pays the people who make TV Shows. No Commercials = No $$$ For people who make the TV Shows = No Good TV Shows. (ive taken 1 1/2 years of TV Studies, i know this stuff by heart) The Advertiser pays the TV Channel $$$ to put their commercial during a certain timeslot, then a % of what is paid goes to the show that the commercial is being put into.

The Advertisements that Microsoft is doing, is just For profit.

There is a difference between Cable Advertising & Xbox Live Advertising.

Faulttt

Television ads do not directly pay for the production of TV shows, Production companies do.Ad revenues go to the network which in turn use the revenue for operations. TV shows are produced before a penny is even spent in advertising. Once a show is produced, it is shopped around to get advertisers onboard.

www.kotaku.com/5305087/ads-coming-to-xbox-360-dashboard/

Now, i was reading and some lemmings said that this advertising is no different that advertisements on Cable

There is a BIG difference between cable advertisements and cable commericals.

Commericals on cable is what pays the people who make TV Shows. No Commercials = No $$$ For people who make the TV Shows = No Good TV Shows. (ive taken 1 1/2 years of TV Studies, i know this stuff by heart) The Advertiser pays the TV Channel $$$ to put their commercial during a certain timeslot, then a % of what is paid goes to the show that the commercial is being put into.

The Advertisements that Microsoft is doing, is just For profit.

There is a difference between Cable Advertising & Xbox Live Advertising.

Faulttt

If you're paying for Live there shouldn't be any ads on it. Period.Bread_or_Decide

It is just like any other service... Say you are a Gamespot subscriber... When you first go to gamespot.com... you see advertisements until you log in...

Similar to Xbox Dashboard... you turn on your console and go to the dashboard... that is the main page... and you see adds until you play games...

Remember that the Xbox Live dashboard is the same for EVERYONE... So you with your gold account logging in are seeing the same thing that little Timmy with his silver account over there is seeing... The Xbox Dashboard is like a website... they aren't going to make it especially for you... it is for everyone...

I never found ads on the old dashboard a nuisance. I don't see the harm of putting ads again now.

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]They gotta get profit streams somehow into Microsoft, and it doesn't have to cost the user anything extra, so whatever.SolidTy

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

So now it's wrong to make a profit? Get real. The more profit a company that supports gaming earns, the better for us gamers, I say.

As long as the ads aren't interrupting my gaming (IE not forcing me to watch 30 second commercials before I can play a game), I couldn't care less.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]They gotta get profit streams somehow into Microsoft, and it doesn't have to cost the user anything extra, so whatever.Cicatraz_ESP

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

So now it's wrong to make a profit? Get real. The more profit a company that supports gaming earns, the better for us gamers, I say.

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]They gotta get profit streams somehow into Microsoft, and it doesn't have to cost the user anything extra, so whatever.SolidTy

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]They gotta get profit streams somehow into Microsoft, and it doesn't have to cost the user anything extra, so whatever.PoppaGamer

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

EmperorSupreme

So now it's wrong to make a profit? Get real. The more profit a company that supports gaming earns, the better for us gamers, I say.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Cicatraz_ESP"]

So now it's wrong to make a profit? Get real. The more profit a company that supports gaming earns, the better for us gamers, I say.

The_Game21x

i find ads on tv way worse than the ads on xbox live. on tv i have to constantly wait for the tv show i want to watch (especially here in the uk, they can be 5 mins long which is agonising for an impatient person like me), whereas on xbox live, you see the add, then you just go straight to playing your game

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] You say better for us gamers, I say more expensive for us gamers. Anyway the difference between TV and ads and gaming is ads is at least with TV you get the TV shows for free. With MS you still pay for the games, you still pay for online and still have to watch ads. Its a win-win-win for MS all the way around, but as long as the majority of 360 owners are okay with the abuse they'll keep doing it. Lemmings remind me of women who won't leave a bad relationship. heretrix

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

You know its wrong.PoppaGamer

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]You know its wrong.IronBass

I like how you simply chose one part of my overall statement and point.

Was a $600 PS3 a good idea? (and don't use sales as a counter, even if it was the number one selling console at $600 it would be f-ed up)

It takes money from your pocket that shouldn't be taken in the first place.PoppaGamer

Was a $600 PS3 a good idea? (and don't use sales as a counter, even if it was the number one selling console at $600 it would be f-ed up)PoppaGamer

If ads become commonplace on XBOX live when they weren't before, and they don't pass the savings off to the consumer, I can see why XBOX users feel cheated in a way.

I don't like ads in the things I pay for. I don't like ads before my DVD's that I buy that I have to skip through each time I watch it.

And if I had an ad on my CD music before disc played it would burn me up.

It also irks me when I'm playing a game and there is a blatent ad that kind of detracts from the experience. If they said 'Hey, we are charging $5 less and we can do that because we allowed ads.' I might be OK with that, but when something has ads and is the same price as always, it just comes across as selling out.

But yes, ads are popping upeverywhere and to me, it's getting annoying.

They gotta get profit streams somehow into Microsoft, and it doesn't have to cost the user anything extra, so whatever.Phazevariance

They don't "Gotta" do anything.

They are making a ton of profits from the users as is.

did ANYONE read the article on Kotaku that says the ads are for Last.fm users? ill gladly deal with them rather than pay to subscribe to it.