The game[Halo 3] looks exactly like the version shown at E3 2006

Oh yeah I think I should mention this to all ya sagging graphic geekaloids out there, the game looks exactly like the version shown at E3 2006.

Halo 3 is hogging all the hype as its release date comes closer and closer. If Gears of War plagued everyone, I sit and type in fear what calamities Halo 3 will bring about and that is only the beginning of the virus spreading. GTA IV is the next best thing to New York City. Life in the virtual world seems to be a bright gritty happy eternal loophole all right!

http://www.gameguru.in/features/2007/28/halo-3-update-new-information-from-paris-and-japan/

Halo 3 is just going to be awesome, may not be GOTY, but definitlyone of the highest ranking game on gamerankings.

I for one, didn't even think the graphics in E3 200 looked good, but thats jsut me, seeing as its more focused on how big the battle is, i guess i can deal with it

September 25 IS SOO CLOSE!

and SO IS SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

Cedmln

Changing masterchief's armor texture was an artsyle choice. Bungie said they wanted a more metallic look rather than the shiny concrete look. The rest of the game looks great.

And if you take some of those half-second snippets from the E3 2007 trailer, you can see some great environmental graphics that are the same quality as the environments in E3 2006 trailer.

YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

Cedmln

Well Bungie said they removed the effects of the armour, because it looked way too stupid.

but there are also sources that said the damage of your armour stays with you during the duration of the game, that could mean that your armour may look the same.

YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

Cedmln

Different textures, same geometry, its not really right for them to say it looks exactly like the e3 06 trailer, because they changed the textures and colours for it to match halo and halo 2s art style, but the game has the same models as those in the e3 06 trailer. I think the graphics are lookig good.

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YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

MADVLAD123

Changing masterchief's armor texture was an artsyle choice. Bungie said they wanted a more metallic look rather than the shiny concrete look. The rest of the game looks great.

And if you take some of those half-second snippets from the E3 2007 trailer, you can see some great environmental graphics that are the same quality as the environments in E3 2006 trailer.

Thats what iv being doing, its hard to get a good idea of the graphics when its quickly changing from one scene to another, the part were MC and that elite were standing next to that canyon thing in the 06 trailer it looked just like it did last e3, and the part were the scarab exploded, the explosion was awesome and you could see banshees flying around miles away.

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YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

michael098

Changing masterchief's armor texture was an artsyle choice. Bungie said they wanted a more metallic look rather than the shiny concrete look. The rest of the game looks great.

And if you take some of those half-second snippets from the E3 2007 trailer, you can see some great environmental graphics that are the same quality as the environments in E3 2006 trailer.

Thats what iv being doing, its hard to get a good idea of the graphics when its quickly changing from one scene to another, the part were MC and that elite were standing next to that canyon thing in the 06 trailer it looked just like it did last e3, and the part were the scarab exploded, the explosion was awesome and you could see banshees flying around miles away.

Also that one part where MC seems to be in a desert place and he sniped that Brute in mid air.

That whole level looked like the level (graphically and design) in the E3 2006 trailer.

Nice pic michael.

Honestly I feel this game trumps Gears in graphics. I have to watch my brother play that game every freakin' day, glitching everywhere (in non-ranked games, mind you), so I've seen every nook, cranny etc of the visual fidelity of Gears.

Screens like michael posted blow Gears away IMO. And remember, Halo 3's world is huge.

Still, I'm not going to be thinking about the graphics when I'm bombarded with Covenant plasma fire from all sides.

Nice pic michael.

Honestly I feel this game trumps Gears in graphics. I have to watch my brother play that game every freakin' day, glitching everywhere (in non-ranked games, mind you), so I've seen every nook, cranny etc of the visual fidelity of Gears.

Screens like michael posted blow Gears away IMO. And remember, Halo 3's world is huge.

Still, I'm not going to be thinking about the graphics when I'm bombarded with Covenant plasma fire from all sides.

FrozenLiquid

Here are some single player screenshots:

PS: Sorry for the bad resolution (blurryness and jaggies), I used Fraps to get the images off Windows Media, and it kinda stretched the pictures.

Also check this thread I made about the BETA's graphics. I had some nice pictures in there: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25642884

nothing new to see hereOldParr

Yea there is something new, i dont think ive ever seen pics of the Mauler before i looked at the scans on that page.

If you compare the e3 06 MC model to the new in-game pics, you can see apart from the textures they are exactly the same.

Halo 3 e3 06

Halo 3 in-game

MADLAV, I know you like to support Halo 3, and I commend you, but argh..... it's not a 56k thread!

Anyways, the French article really just states Halo 3 will be bigger, badder and more brutal. Also sounds like it will have tons of replayability. Like we didn't know that :P.

MADLAV, I know you like to support Halo 3, and I commend you, but argh..... it's not a 56k thread!

Anyways, the French article really just states Halo 3 will be bigger, badder and more brutal. Also sounds like it will have tons of replayability. Like we didn't know that :P.

FrozenLiquid

Sorry couldn't stop myself. Plus I had a topic with those pictures (it got locked because it was during the time it had a sticky) so I just copied and pasted them. I guess I should've took some of those out...

BUT COME ON! look at em. How am I supposed to take an image out of that bunch?

You could tell the world that Halo 3 looks like the biggest pile of crap ever, and it will still sell. It doesn't really matter what people say about the game anymore at this point.

Ok according to that mag Halo 3 will have 15 missions, 20 weapons, 3 types of grenades, 8 types of equipment, a dozen vehicles and two "playable characters" in multiplayer (most probably Spartans and Elites with customizable armour).FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Ok according to that mag Halo 3 will have 15 missions, 20 weapons, 3 types of grenades, 8 types of equipment, a dozen vehicles and two "playable characters" in multiplayer (most probably Spartans and Elites with customizable armour).coolviper2003

Maybe my translation is wrong. But "quinzaine" means 14-15ish.

[QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Ok according to that mag Halo 3 will have 15 missions, 20 weapons, 3 types of grenades, 8 types of equipment, a dozen vehicles and two "playable characters" in multiplayer (most probably Spartans and Elites with customizable armour).FrozenLiquid

Maybe my translation is wrong. But "quinzaine" means 14-15ish.

Texture quality and lighting is worse than E306

im sorry it just is

thats not to say Halo 3 doesnt look good, because it does

But Chiefs armor in E306 is Texture HEAVEN, now its flat

R-Dot-Yung

Texture quality and lighting is worse than E306

im sorry it just is

thats not to say Halo 3 doesnt look good, because it does

But Chiefs armor in E306 is Texture HEAVEN, now its flat

R-Dot-Yung

It's just Chief's armor (more metallic now). change of artstyle as bungie said. Everything else in the game has nice textures.

Look at these pics for example:

TExtures are still there :)

Texture quality and lighting is worse than E306

im sorry it just is

thats not to say Halo 3 doesnt look good, because it does

But Chiefs armor in E306 is Texture HEAVEN, now its flat

R-Dot-Yung

Then you got that single player "tease" shot that came out a few weeks after that, and it shows that it just did not look right on the Chief.

People are always going on about the E3 06 shot. They seem to forget this one:

Sandpaper FTL.

And the lighting? Mate.... the lighting, at the very least, is the only thing that's stayed intact since E3 06. They still have the "single source" lighting as well as self shadowing etc. Look at the pic of the Chief threatening the Arbiter. Self shadowing, HDR and visor reflection all in one.

Bungie is BS'ing if you want my honest opinion

You dont see MC while your playing, so im sure instead of wasting resources on making MC have perfectl bump mapped armor, they toned it down to add more detail to other parts in the game

artisitc my butt, haha, fo real, first they brag about how MC has a new worn and torn look

and then trash it and say its for artistic reasons

R-Dot-Yung

I'm sorry but you're sounding as if Bungie was a developer that just got lucky with Halo. Bungie are awesome developers. Legendary.

Hell, they even trumped id Software back in 1994 with the technically superior FPS Marathon, yet you people don't seem to realize it.

But now you guys think "Oh, Bungie can't do this. They're cutting corners. Making excuses lawlawllawllawl".

If Bungie made excuses for themselves, then I don't know why they are also their own worst critics. Very hypocritical if you ask me.

that is a horrendus shot of Halo 3, the game looks TERRIBLE there, the new shots look WAYYYY better, and it has nothing to do with the "sandpaper" textures

The lighting in the E306 trailer is amazing, it doesnt look like that in the game, it just doesnt

once again, im not saying Halo 3 looks bad, but it doesnt look like E306 exactly, it just doesnt

R-Dot-Yung

Look, it has everything to do with the sandpaper textures. It contradicts everything that has been said in the books, with the metallic smooth surfaces etc. Texture swap. You can do the same thing in PC games as well, without taking a toll on the hardware at all.

Judging from the E3 07 trailer are we?

Well, in that case, rest assured that the Arbiter will not cast his own shadow on the environment (as well as other objects), and that the turret the Arbiter wields will also shoot at a 45 degree angle from where it's pointing.

Yeah, there were old builds in the trailer.

Ok, why the fanboyish hostility, im mearley stating my opinion and if you ask me, my theory on why they would throw away that perfect bump mapping is plausible

I never said Bungie cant do anything, but having that Bump mapping on a charachter you dont even look at is a waste of resources

i dont ride Bungie, and i dont trust every word they say because everyone lies...

Only dev i listen to without question is Kojima

R-Dot-Yung

Everyone lies yet you listen to Kojima without question? Hmmm.....

Didn't Kojima say MGS 3 was the last MGS game he'd be working on too?

Bungie, Kojima Productions, Valve; they're all on the same tier.

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YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

MADVLAD123

Changing masterchief's armor texture was an artsyle choice. Bungie said they wanted a more metallic look rather than the shiny concrete look. The rest of the game looks great.

And if you take some of those half-second snippets from the E3 2007 trailer, you can see some great environmental graphics that are the same quality as the environments in E3 2006 trailer.

REmoving bumb mapping is a type of graphical downgrade. You can tell its not as good now.

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YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

Killfox

Changing masterchief's armor texture was an artsyle choice. Bungie said they wanted a more metallic look rather than the shiny concrete look. The rest of the game looks great.

And if you take some of those half-second snippets from the E3 2007 trailer, you can see some great environmental graphics that are the same quality as the environments in E3 2006 trailer.

REmoving bumb mapping is a type of graphical downgrade. You can tell its not as good now.

they didn't remove bump mapping. That's what I'm trying to explain. Only MC's armor was changed. Everything else (including the textures) stayed the same. Check out the pictures I posted that showcase some of the textures in Halo 3.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Ok, why the fanboyish hostility, im mearley stating my opinion and if you ask me, my theory on why they would throw away that perfect bump mapping is plausible

I never said Bungie cant do anything, but having that Bump mapping on a charachter you dont even look at is a waste of resources

i dont ride Bungie, and i dont trust every word they say because everyone lies...

Only dev i listen to without question is Kojima

R-Dot-Yung

Everyone lies yet you listen to Kojima without question? Hmmm.....

Didn't Kojima say MGS 3 was the last MGS game he'd be working on too?

Bungie, Kojima Productions, Valve; they're all on the same tier.

Everyone lies EXCEPT Kojima...

and if anyone thought MGS3 was the last MGS game after finishing MGS2, then theyd have to be blind or oblivious to the obvious

as for the other stuff, i dont read the Halo books, but if what you say is true, then why would they do that in the first place (E306)

anyway, look i think Halo 3 looks great

but it doesnt look as good as the first trailer, especially if you compare the sandpaper from E306 to the first screenshot, theres no comparrison

Ah, so Kojima is a God then? Don't rule out Kojima just because he looks perfect in your eyes mate. I love him too (mostly -- I think he's an overrated director), but it's not like he's flawless. And before you tell me that I need to think Bungie is flawed too, I'll be glad to tell you that I do. Just look at Halo 2.

No, I'm sure Kojima said MGS 3 was the last MGS game he was working on. Well, that was the thing I heard and which was why I was extremely hyped for Snake Eater.

And I don't know why they did that for the E3 trailer. Maybe they started to realize it just wasn't right to change the armour that drastically. Or maybe the art designers thought it was cool just to show off the 360 horsepower. I'm not sure. They're not perfect.

REmoving bumb mapping is a type of graphical downgrade. You can tell its not as good now.

Killfox

Texture swap. You're a hermit, you should know all about texture swaps. Not like a FakeFactory one, more like a "reskin". Like changing Lara Croft's outfit or something.

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REmoving bumb mapping is a type of graphical downgrade. You can tell its not as good now.

FrozenLiquid

Texture swap. You're a hermit, you should know all about texture swaps. Not like a FakeFactory one, more like a "reskin". Like changing Lara Croft's outfit or something.

Thats not just a simple texture swap. If the bumb mapping is still good. Give me a picture were it looks as good as MC armor from the 2006 trailer.

YEAH um no it doesn't. Someone post the trailer screenshot and the new screenshot and you can tell that it doesn't look exactly the same. The trailers armor looks better.

Unless they are upgrading it. I do;nt know.

Cedmln

yes it does, they just replaced the LOOK of the armor. the sand grained shiney armor was replaced by the green..

Same amount of polygons and much BETTER looking imo(unless you're fond of shiney thingy's).

This game will be a lot better than peolple realise. the (kinda bad) E3 2007 trailer was nothing compared to the real gameplay (says all reporters)

This game WILL deliver.

The armor on master cheif from e306 was way to grainy,why would armor look like that??

And to the people who said they dumb down the armor because you cant see master cheif when your playing,what about when he is holding the mini gun? or driving the brute bike?

At the end of the day halo 3 is going to fantastic and only fanboys who are against the 360 are going to say otherwise....;)

lol Halo....FPS best on PC

Why do they take out the bumpmapping that IMO doesn't look out of place in single player, but the multiplayer models have it? Sounds like BS to me.

To E306 version from the trailer looked the best to me, most detail because of the bump mapping and the current one is way too smooth and there's no real detail to it at all, especially for war torn armor. I preferred the first.

lol Halo....FPS best on PC

Limbutus

the ratings would sure agree with u;)

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Ok, why the fanboyish hostility, im mearley stating my opinion and if you ask me, my theory on why they would throw away that perfect bump mapping is plausible

I never said Bungie cant do anything, but having that Bump mapping on a charachter you dont even look at is a waste of resources

i dont ride Bungie, and i dont trust every word they say because everyone lies...

Only dev i listen to without question is Kojima

R-Dot-Yung

Everyone lies yet you listen to Kojima without question? Hmmm.....

Didn't Kojima say MGS 3 was the last MGS game he'd be working on too?

Bungie, Kojima Productions, Valve; they're all on the same tier.

Everyone lies EXCEPT Kojima...

and if anyone thought MGS3 was the last MGS game after finishing MGS2, then theyd have to be blind or oblivious to the obvious

as for the other stuff, i dont read the Halo books, but if what you say is true, then why would they do that in the first place (E306)

anyway, look i think Halo 3 looks great

but it doesnt look as good as the first trailer, especially if you compare the sandpaper from E306 to the first screenshot, theres no comparrison

Artisticly it doesn't look better to you maybe. But technically, it's the same. The textures are pretty much the same too, the ground textures are actually sharper now than in the E3 06 trailer.

Who cares what he looks like, its an FPS game so you will hardly ever get to see him anyway.

On the new e3 trailer, at the end where the cheif is leaning over that table at the end, the light on his breast plate highlighted the crappy textures.