The gap between PS3 and 360 is closing every day

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#1 Stumpt25
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Fast improving PSN with every patch. Dedicated servers + No lag

Promising exclusive line-up for 2008.

Rumble + Sixaxis in Dual-Shock 3 + neater design = makes for a better controller

Cheaper Console at 399$

Great games featuring on it at the moment

Faster growing user base every month

How long can the 360 last?

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#2 Bebi_vegeta
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Fast improving PSN with every patch. Dedicated servers + No lag

Promising exclusive line-up for 2008.

Rumble + Sixaxis in Dual-Shock 3 + neater design = makes for a better controller

Cheaper Console at 399$

Great games featuring on it at the moment

Faster growing user base every month

How long can the 360 last?

Stumpt25

How long did you wait for this moment?

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#3 user_nat
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And yet.. it was meant to blast the "xbox 1.5" out of the water from day one.
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#4 00Raziel00
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The end is near.
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#5 Lonelynight
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I still don't see 4d graphics running at 120 fps
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#6 sadikovic
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It wouldn't last a secound... but thats in "your" world (cows) where the 360 wont get any cheaper andwont get anymore games.

I remember what Joey from freinds once said:

"Its Mooo"

"A cows opinion, it doesn't matter"

:P

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#7 Pro_wrestler
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There wasn't supposed to be a gap to begin with. Out the gate PS3 was supposed to be superior to 360 in every conceiveable way.

All your saying to me buy posting this thread is that the PS3 is inferior and YOU actually realize it.
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#8 elms1
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I think the 360 will last a couple of more years, but I am almost sure it will end up last.
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#9 OGTiago
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Not all games will ahve dedicated servers :|
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#10 the-very-best
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I think the 360 is a great competitor. If XBL wasn't so great, Sony would not be trying so hard to make PSN great. And the fact that MS is stealing exclusives is just gonna make Sony more aggressive. And the 360 is gonna continue to get more great games, keeping Sony on their toes.

But I think in terms of sales, the gen will be a vicious fight between Sony and Nintendo. It's gonna be interesting.

I remember what Joey from freinds once said:

"Its Mooo"

"A cows opinion, it doesn't matter"

:P

sadikovic

lol.

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#11 hilltops
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I think the 360 will last a couple of more years, but I am almost sure it will end up last.elms1


i sincerely hope so :D
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#12 T_0_D
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No matter what happens from here on out I think we can all agree that Microsoft and Nintendo have accomplished their goal to cut into Sony's huge market share. How much market share Sony loses this generation is the only question that still remains for me to be answered.
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#13 rowzzr
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And yet.. it was meant to blast the "xbox 1.5" out of the water from day one.user_nat

i agree. it's self-ownage on the part of TC. and actually, it's embarasing how MS' second console is beating sony's third. :| with a very big fanbase from ps1 and especially ps2 no less.

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#14 Always-Honest
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well, the PS3 is evolving in a much faster way than the 360 did. that's true.

I'm not sure if one will top the other in any significant way, but i hope they will compete eachoter like hell to deliver the best product for us to play.

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#15 CreepyBacon
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The PS3 came out a year later than the 360 but it's having to play catch up? LOL.

I suppose at least there not screaming 4D GRAPHIKS now. And LOL@ You going on about "no lag" as if theres any gaming service in the world with 100% no lag. You can just tell you're clutching at straws on that one, stop dreaming and stop making out like it's godly lagless amazing stuff just cause you want one up on the 360 users.

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Fast improving PSN with every patch. Dedicated servers + No lag

Promising exclusive line-up for 2008.

Rumble + Sixaxis in Dual-Shock 3 + neater design = makes for a better controller

Cheaper Console at 399$

Great games featuring on it at the moment

Faster growing user base every month

How long can the 360 last?

Stumpt25

Why dont ppl understand that the 360 will get a price cut, inless Sony release a gimped PS3 that only plays PS2 and PS1 games. lol

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#17 -Ninja_Dog-
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So far no real reason to get a Sony machine.

And nothing on the horizon, maybe in 2009 or 2010, I'm sure by then it will have some good games.

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#18 SolidSnake35
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And yet.. it was meant to blast the "xbox 1.5" out of the water from day one.user_nat
But that didn't happen, so now the debate has changed. The PS3 is now catching the 360, like it or not, and there are many of you who say that the 360 is vastly superior. Perhaps, not anymore.
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#19 o0squishy0o
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i want the ps3 to have a better year than the 360 because if the 360 was to have another great year the ps3 campaign would be over completely... which is a shame since i have always cam back to sony except when halo was out for the first time i was like WOOOOOO xbox LOL.
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#20 RippedFubar
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Will see just what happens when MS puts Halo3 in a $299 bundel
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#21 RippedFubar
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  • Xbox 360 software revenue at retail surpassed that of Wii and PS3 combined
  • Xbox 360 holds the #1 & #2 spot in the Top Ten list across all consoles --"Halo 3" (Microsoft Game Studios) sold 434K units and "Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock" (RedOctane/Activision) sold 383K units
  • Xbox 360 is delivering the highest-rated games lineup this generation, with 7 out of the top 10 rated games through the end of October according to Metacritic, the world-wide authority in entertainment reviews.

Highlights:

well it was a good run sony had in the past but all good things come to an end

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#22 stefanlek
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funny how Lemmings have changed their tune from 'the 360 is superior the ps3' to 'wasnt the ps3 supposed to be better then the 360? yh yh thats it' and 'i cant believe its taken a ps3 a year to catch up, wasnt the the ps3 supposed to beat the 360 software lineup with a userbase of 0 from day one?'
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#23 OhSnapitz
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funny how Lemmings have changed their tune from 'the 360 is superior the ps3' to 'wasnt the ps3 supposed to be better then the 360? yh yh thats it' and 'i cant believe its taken a ps3 a year to catch up, wasnt the the ps3 supposed to beat the 360 software lineup with a userbase of 0 from day one?'stefanlek

I haven't changed my tune at all... I still believe the 360 will come in second this gen.. The PS3 hasn't proven ANYTHING to me yet.. quote japan sales numbers if you'd like but even the 360 beat the PS3 over there(even if for only one week). I don't believe we have any solid numbers from Europe but I assume the PS3 is barely inching out the 360 over there. And we all know the 360 is kicking the PS3's ass in the U.S. So why backpeddle?

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#24 jimm895
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I see the 360 being in last place within the next year or two.
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#25 Sony_92
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I still don't see 4d graphics running at 120 fpsLonelynight

Where the **** did you get 120 fps? ill post a vidoe of Sony saying it runs at 60 fps in 2005.

Its not 4d graphics its 4d gaming. It means the whole experience of the games will pull you in.
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#26 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Fast improving PSN with every patch. Dedicated servers + No lag

Promising exclusive line-up for 2008.

Rumble + Sixaxis in Dual-Shock 3 + neater design = makes for a better controller

Cheaper Console at 399$

Great games featuring on it at the moment

Faster growing user base every month

How long can the 360 last?

Bebi_vegeta

How long did you wait for this moment?

For way to long and hell, the PS3 is still really really far behind.

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#27 sadikovic
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I still don't see 4d graphics running at 120 fpsSony_92

Where the **** did you get 120 fps? ill post a vidoe of Sony saying it runs at 60 fps in 2005.

Its not 4d graphics its 4d gaming. It means the whole experience of the games will pull you in.

LOL... really it was like "cows" were too mesmarized by the shinnyness of the PS Tripple to care about what Ken said,

THE LINK!

It was one of many reasons why Ken Katugaragi was fired.

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#28 mathew952
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Pssst:

The 360 is only $270.

It has way more games than PS3.

PS3 sales roughly 5 million

360 sales roughly 15 million

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#29 HolyHandGrenad3
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Weak thread. You really trying to brag about rumble controllers now?
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#30 Pripyat
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well, the PS3 is evolving in a much faster way than the 360 did. that's true.Always-Honest

I wouldn't call what PS3 is going through now evolving, more trying to catch up by copying features. Just like the soviets during the cold war you will always be behind your competitors if you take that approach. Sony needs to come up with something original.

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#31 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]well, the PS3 is evolving in a much faster way than the 360 did. that's true.Pripyat

I wouldn't call what PS3 is going through now evolving, more trying to catch up by copying features. Just like the soviets during the cold war you will always be behind your competitors if you take that approach. Sony needs to come up with something original.

both need to come up with original stuff. And i know Sony and developers working for Sony are working hard to to find ways to get this cell processor to work in the most efficient way. there is lot's of potential they can still use. It's safe to say that the 360 has less spare power.

Imo, you are right about the catching up, but i still think the leaps in performance will be greater on the PS3.

on a side note: i have all systems and enjoy them equally.

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#32 MrSickVisionz
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This is so ironic.

MS fanboys were touting the technical superiority of the XB1 over the PS2 (which was noticeable unlike the PS3 so far where multi-platform games look marginally better on the 360) last gen. Clearly we saw that technical superiority doesn't mean you'll be the #1 system. LOL, but now everyone is so sure that the PS3 will win because its more powerful. I'm just curious... WHAT IS THAT BASED OFF OF? In terms of the history of the console video game market, what is that based off of? The "success" of the 3DO, Jaguar,Gamecube, X-Box? Power has no bearing on success in this market, Its games.

The idea that Sony will magically get back all of its exclusives is crazy. On the PS2, it only got these exclusives because it was the #1 selling system by leaps and bounds. That is not the case this time around. You can goto any sales chart and see that this is not the case. Grand Theft Auto was a major system seller. Last time, XB owners didn't get that game until PS2 owners had it for over a year. Thats not the case now. Sony is losing alot of its exclusives for proven franchises. It will never get those back if its trailing in systems sold.

Its funny how everyone is saying 2008. As if MS and Ninendo aren't going to release any games in 2008. Most of these highly anticipated multi-platform games will be dropping then. If these titles come out and continue to look better on the 360 or look the same on both, thats not going to be an edge to Sony. With more total 360s out there the most units sold will likely goto the 360. Not to mention that every 3rd party has been saying that they should not have overlooked the Wii and has now devoted major resources to making games for it.

Its not possible right now for Sony to return to its PS2 dominance. The PS3 has sold less than half the total units of the Wii and 360, andits been out the same amount of time as the Wii.To combat that, you would need two things to happen:

  • A massive and sustained increase in PS3 sales. And by sustained it has to be more than just November, when they did a mammoth price drop. If sales only pick up in November and drop back to normal in Dec and Jan, thats not a trend, its a sales spike. And by massive, I mean its trailing the closest competition by 7.4M(total 360 - total PS3)*.You'll need a a crazyratio to overcome that.
  • Also, you'll need a massive sustained decrease in Wii sales worldwide and in 360 sales for EU and NA. I'm not counting Japan becauseitssales are only 3.7% (0.49M/13.19M)*of its total sales. They aren't a factor in the 360s current position and likely will only bea3.7% factor in its future.
  • All numbers from www.vgchartz.com

If these things can happen from Q4 2007 - Q1 2008, no one can deny that Sony is going to return to #1. There will be a clear cut trend. Elsewise, you can only say that Sony is doing better. If some one can post how many worlwide sales there are per month for the 3 consoles (VGchartz only list weekly and I don't feel like adding up for multiple months to get an average), we can come up with better estimations for an equation to see how long it would take PS3 sales to equal everyone else. With those number you could come up with better "even if sales increased/dropped to " numbers. But heres the equation if anyone is bored or just wants to see for themselves. I encourage you to make the Wii/360 sales far lower and PS3 sales far above average just so you can see that even under horrible (and unrealistic) wii/360 sales and amazing (and unrealistic) PS3 sales, the system has a LONG way to go before it even catches up to the competition.

Current Total PS3 Sales + (Assumed Sales per month * X Months) = Current Total Wii/360 Sales + (Assumes sales per month * X Months). Then solve for X

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#33 KillaHalo2o9
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Fact > Your Opinions