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#1 worknow222
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ok so theres many of people saying that the beta of halo reach doesnt look good and looks like halo 3 and odst, well her's a solution

post pics of halo 3 first and FPS and TPS shot of halo reach and show the system wars community that there entirely different in the graphics department,

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#2 -Snooze-
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The MP footage i watched was a lot like Halo 3. If i didn't know it was Reach, i'd have assumed it was Halo ODST.

However, it was Alpha footage,and multiplayer so i shall give it the benefit of the doubt

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#3 salxis
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Getting ready to see good shots of Halo 3 vs bad shots of Reach :P. Joke aside, there's definite improvement from Halo 3 ==> Reach, but not as much as it's hyped up to be. Gonna wait for the beta on May
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#4 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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It has the same art style of Halo 3, so its bound to look similar, but graphically theres a good difference.
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#5 lucky_star
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Halo bullshots in 3...2...1...GO!

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#6 SilentlyMad
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also why are people comparing Halo Reach multiplayer to Halo 3 single player? Oh wait I know they are fanboys thats why. Halo Reach Single Player looks far better then Halo 3 single player and we have all seen the video.
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#7 CDUB316
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this was a video of the multiplayer

MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS

the single player video we saw (the vidoc) looks WAY better than halo 3

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#8 deactivated-6079d224de716
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this was a video of the multiplayer

MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS

the single player video we saw (the vidoc) looks WAY better than halo 3

CDUB316

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

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#9 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

this was a video of the multiplayer

MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS

the single player video we saw (the vidoc) looks WAY better than halo 3

Orchid87

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

no...not really, at least not the ones i've played

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#10 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

this was a video of the multiplayer

MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS

the single player video we saw (the vidoc) looks WAY better than halo 3

Orchid87

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

What are you talking about? We have seen a video of the multiplayer and single player for Reach and the single player looks far better. If you want to bash Reach at least compare the single player graphics then ever one can get a good laugh.
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#11 supras989
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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

this was a video of the multiplayer

MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS

the single player video we saw (the vidoc) looks WAY better than halo 3

SilentlyMad

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

What are you talking about? We have seen a video of the multiplayer and single player for Reach and the single player looks far better. If you want to bash Reach at least compare the single player graphics then ever one can get a good laugh.

Lol -_- hes saying that the graphics are the same in the multiplayer, but possibly with just some missing elements, i remember in COD3 multiplayer for splitscreen atleast, there was no muzzle flashes and stuff like that etc.

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#12 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

supras989

What are you talking about? We have seen a video of the multiplayer and single player for Reach and the single player looks far better. If you want to bash Reach at least compare the single player graphics then ever one can get a good laugh.

Lol -_- hes saying that the graphics are the same in the multiplayer, but possibly with just some missing elements, i remember in COD3 multiplayer for splitscreen atleast, there was no muzzle flashes and stuff like that etc.

But that is clearly not the case with Halo. We have see videos for both and while the multiplayer does not look bad in any way the single player looks far better nothing as small no muzzle flashes.
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#13 macs77
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Halo Reach was never a candidate for graphics king, let alone amazing graphics. The people who thought it was only led the rest of System Wars on and caused cows everywhere to react in response.

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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

this was a video of the multiplayer

MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS

the single player video we saw (the vidoc) looks WAY better than halo 3

CDUB316

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

no...not really, at least not the ones i've played

Then I guess you never played Killzone 2 or uncharted 2, am I right?

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#15 Vadamee
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Halo Reach was never a candidate for graphics king, let alone amazing graphics. The people who thought it was only led the rest of System Wars on and caused cows everywhere to react in response.

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I'm curious as to know who gave who the authority to declare "graphics king." No one here can really prove which is technically superior, heck... There are apparently more polygons per frame in Halo Reach then there are in Uncharted 2... All this arguing over which looks better is subjectivity.
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Halo bullshots in 3...2...1...GO!

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yeah, but the question which side will be posting them, the lemmings or the cows? ;)
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.....lets see, the particle and explosion effects are the easiest improvment to spot, look at the uppercut and pause at 00:09 the character models look much better that halo 3, pause at 00:14 look at the ground, ground textures look great, not enough? pause at 00:32 again textures have been upped. pause ath 00:30 and look not at the sniper but at the enviroment, the celing tilles are molded and its easy to see the 4 million more polygons on screen (metaphorically). 1:05 -1:07 there is a nice motion blur, 1:09 ground textures are improved. 1:10 keen example f the improveped explosions, now pause at when the rocket is fired, the lighting is alo improved. there are a lot of improvment over halo 3, it just takes a look to notice them. the etire game is clearer because of higher native resolution compared to Halo 3, That and there could be AA this time around, much less noticable jaggies.
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#18 Magik85
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If this looks like H3 than MGS4 looks like MGS2.
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#19 h575309
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I say we wait for the final product before making judgements, eh?

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#20 EG101
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

playharderfool

no...not really, at least not the ones i've played

Then I guess you never played Killzone 2 or uncharted 2, am I right?

I didn't know KZ2 and UC2 had splitscreen MP. I must of missed the update. MP with Split Screen is when the graphics have to be dumbed down. Not full screen online play.

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#21 Dataleak
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[QUOTE="playharderfool"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

no...not really, at least not the ones i've played

EG101

Then I guess you never played Killzone 2 or uncharted 2, am I right?

I didn't know KZ2 and UC2 had splitscreen MP. I must of missed the update. MP with Split Screen is when the graphics have to be dumbed down. Not full screen online play.

The Halo Reach MP video wasn't splitscreen :P, but some games like Rainbow 6 Vegas looked ALOT worse while playing multiplayer. But didn't Gears Of War look identical singleplayer and in splitscreen?

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#22 bigboss5ak
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It looks better to me way better than halo 3. You just gotta learn to separate fanboys from real gamers
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#23 RawDeal_basic
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Will the Halo Reach campaign have split-screen? If so, I have a hard time believing it will be able to match KZ2 or UC2 graphics, unfortunately.

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#24 lhughey
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Its a freakin alpha build. Relax until the game is golden before criticizing. The game still has like 8 months before being released.
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#25 racing1750
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imo reach looks much better than halo 3 based on the vidoc that was released.
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#26 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

The MP footage i watched was a lot like Halo 3. If i didn't know it was Reach, i'd have assumed it was Halo ODST.

However, it was Alpha footage,and multiplayer so i shall give it the benefit of the doubt

thats only because youll say whatever you have to, to downplay the fact that reach is an improvement over all the last halo iterations including halo 3. theres no way the reach mp looks like halo 3 at all, except in relative characters. mabey ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say that its probably because you hadnt put in enough hours in halo to tell the difference just go with the latter half so you dont seem like a biased fanboy.
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#27 playharderfool
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I didn't know KZ2 and UC2 had splitscreen MP. I must of missed the update. MP with Split Screen is when the graphics have to be dumbed down. Not full screen online play.

EG101

CDUB316 wrote: "MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS"

your post is supposed to be relavnt to what I was saying...how?

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#28 worknow222
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gotta mention call of duty MW 1 and 2 there multyplayer graphics were downgradeed alot from the single player helping,

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#29 SaltyMeatballs
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Alan Wake will be graphics king.
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#30 xXDante666Xx
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For the record, and the lolz.

Screenshot of single player.

Screenshot of multi-player.

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#31 hamzah1235
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SaltyMeatballs, no just no...It will look great, probably best looking 360 title, but its not graphics king material

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#32 sensfanVone
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

this was a video of the multiplayer

MP ALWAYS looks worse than the single players...ALWAYS

the single player video we saw (the vidoc) looks WAY better than halo 3

Orchid87

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong, your line of thought was already proven wrong in another thread when someone showed the graphical difference between Halo 3 Multi and Single player.

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#33 SaltyMeatballs
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SaltyMeatballs, no just no...It will look great, probably best looking 360 title, but its not graphics king material

hamzah1235
You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".
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#34 sensfanVone
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Lol no. Usually only some scripted visual effects are missing, but the whole graphical fidelty is the same in both SP and MP in most games.

playharderfool

no...not really, at least not the ones i've played

Then I guess you never played Killzone 2 or uncharted 2, am I right?

I have and they both look worse then SP, this has already been proven in another thread no point trying to argue it.

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#35 iKINGBOBi
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Halo: Reach Picture

Halo 3 Screenshot

Honestly, there's not much difference:? The only difference is the modeling

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#36 gmc2u_64
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Halo: Reach Picture

Halo 3 Screenshot

Honestly, there's not much difference:? The only difference is the modeling

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Using bad screens FTL. Seriously, I'm not surprised someone like you would pull that crap.
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#37 iKINGBOBi
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

SaltyMeatballs, no just no...It will look great, probably best looking 360 title, but its not graphics king material

SaltyMeatballs

You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

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#38 tikki25x
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

SaltyMeatballs, no just no...It will look great, probably best looking 360 title, but its not graphics king material

iKINGBOBi

You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

only wishful thinking going on is you wishing Reach looked just like Halo 3. its painfully obvious from the pics that you posted that Reach looks noticibly better.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

SaltyMeatballs, no just no...It will look great, probably best looking 360 title, but its not graphics king material

iKINGBOBi

You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

The funniest thing I've seen in a while. I'm not claiming Reach as a graphics king but even in alpha I can see a significant amount of graphical changes. I'm not a fanboy I just have eyes. But maybe this can die when Reach comes out.

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#40 iKINGBOBi
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Honestly, there's not much difference:? The only difference is the modeling

gmc2u_64

Using bad screens FTL. Seriously, I'm not surprised someone like you would pull that crap.

How so? Thats one of Reaches best screens.Sorry but I still don't see a big difference:? I'll be getting the game nonetheless

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

SaltyMeatballs, no just no...It will look great, probably best looking 360 title, but its not graphics king material

iKINGBOBi

You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

Call me a fanboy then because Reach DOES look better than Halo 3. :roll:

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#42 iKINGBOBi
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".tikki25x

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

only wishful thinking going on is you wishing Reach looked just like Halo 3. its painfully obvious from the pics that you posted that Reach looks noticibly better.

Look, I actually want Reach to look significantly better than Halo 3. Its been almost 3 years since Halo 3 came out. However, the graphical difference is very minimal. Reach will be a better game than 3 though

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#43 iKINGBOBi
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".SpiritOfFire117

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

Call me a fanboy then because Reach DOES look better than Halo 3. :roll:

I never said Reach doesn't look better. I just said the difference is minimal, hence, not a significant difference.

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#44 worknow222
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watch the vidoc again and see all teh gamplay vids there alot better than halo 3

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#45 urdead18
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] You're right, my mistake... I meant "console graphics king".SpiritOfFire117

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

Call me a fanboy then because Reach DOES look better than Halo 3. :roll:

It's a very small difference, especially considering it comes out 3 years after Halo 3.

I remember when they said it's look as good as KZ2...

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#46 Avian005
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Halo: Reach looks like Halo. But it's still a big improvement over Halo 3.

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#47 twitchmonkey399
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

urdead18

Call me a fanboy then because Reach DOES look better than Halo 3. :roll:

It's a very small difference, especially considering it comes out 3 years after Halo 3.

I remember when they said it's look as good as KZ2...

Mentioning the 3-year gap makes no sense, as it's still the same console. While I doubt the game will look as good as Killzone 2, it still has a lot of development to go through. So I wouldn't make judgments like yours.

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#48 SparkyProtocol
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Reach's graphics are better than Halo 3's in every category. The scale is bigger too.
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#49 twitchmonkey399
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

iKINGBOBi

Call me a fanboy then because Reach DOES look better than Halo 3. :roll:

I never said Reach doesn't look better. I just said the difference is minimal, hence, not a significant difference.

If you watched the multiplayer trailer for Reach, you'd see that even in it's Alpha stage Reach looks far better than Halo 3.

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#50 jyoung312
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Wishful thinking at its best, look at my pics above. Its barely any difference from Halo 3. I happen to like Halo, I'm buying Reach day 1.Me and my friends used to play system link alot back in the day. But to say there's a significant difference in those pics, you have to be a fanboy.

iKINGBOBi

only wishful thinking going on is you wishing Reach looked just like Halo 3. its painfully obvious from the pics that you posted that Reach looks noticibly better.

Look, I actually want Reach to look significantly better than Halo 3. Its been almost 3 years since Halo 3 came out. However, the graphical difference is very minimal. Reach will be a better game than 3 though

As long as the campaign is better, I think fans will be happy and atleast now the game looks current gen.