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So I recently got Demon's Souls and then proceeded to play it for almost 100 hours. What struck me most was people all over saying how HARD it was suppose to be. Expecting a great challenge I popped the disc in and proceeded to not die once through 1-1. Nor was any other point in the game rather difficult (there's tons of easy ways to kill almost every boss. Even the last one). Now having beat it on NG+ as well. . .I found myself disappointed in gamers who all claimed it was ULTRA HARD (the game is great btw).

This got me thinking: What games are TRUELY HARD? Please Exclude SHUMPS and non localized games that I'll never be able to play.

So SW's, what say you?

What's the HARDEST game you've ever played?

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Ghosts N Goblins? :P
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#3 anotherone10
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Crisis Core PSP on the hardest setting OMG

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#4 grizzlybear1
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Some games on gameboy or something lol some are nearly impossible.

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#5 KristoffBrujah
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Overall? Tie between Ninja Gaiden and Baldur's Gate 1. Both were quality difficulty games.

NG had some insane bosses and platforming. In BG you can die in almost every encounter if you're not careful. One sword spider can own your whole party. Sarevok was crazy difficult, and even the pre-boss fight possy was very tough (arrows of detonation, anyone?)

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The original metroid.
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#7 finalfantasy94
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Demon souls is a very hard game. So dont come with that Truely crap. Other hard games were NGS or NG or NGB just pick oneand.......ummmm im pretty sure I ran into hard games before but I cant remember them.

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in a weird way, the neverhood on pc.
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#10 mythrol
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Though I don't think it'd be "teh hardest game ever", the DS remake of FF4 is rather difficult. Having played and beat the game so many times before I'll say SE did a good job in changing up how the bosses fight to add more difficultly. What's great too is that some you can't simply overcome by grinding out levels. Some you have to actually employ tatics to kill now. Even after over 30 hours into the game and all my characters around level 80 the final dungeon still gives me trouble.
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#11 Shirokishi_
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Please Exclude SHUMPS and non localized games that I'll never be able to play.

mythrol

Damn, you just put a heavy resriction on my and Yanderes potential picks.

Anyway...

One of, if not the most challenging game Ive played to date.

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#12 Yandere
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Why exclude SHMUPs? Anyways a few roguelikes out there take years of replays to beat, I generally don't play much of those though.

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#13 mythrol
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Demon souls is a very hard game. So dont come with that Truely crap. Other hard games were NGS or NG or NGB just pick oneand.......ummmm im pretty sure I ran into hard games before but I cant remember them.

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No it's not. Use a shield = easy mode. Purple Flame Shield is great early on and once you get Large Brushwood Shield you almost never have to fear fire again (100% fire blocking). Demon's Souls has things that make the game difficult (like losing your souls when you die) but it is overall NOT a hard game. I played and beat most of it in Soul Form as to not mess up World Tendency's and didn't have trouble with any of the bosses. Sure you die in DS but almost everytime it's because YOU as a player did something wrong, allowing an opening to be killed. Or simply falling to your death.
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Alundra, probably. It wasn't so much hard as the puzzles were just tedious.

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Hard is not the same as cheap. What made Demon's Souls so brilliant is that is was a difficult and challenging game without (in my opinion) ever being cheap or unfair.

If you are looking for utterly cheap, unfair, and frustrating games....you can find a lot more "difficult" games than Demon's Souls.

In that case my vote would be for the freeware PC Game "I want to be the Guy". http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/ Check youtube for some videos if you are curious.

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#16 mythrol
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Why exclude SHMUPs? Anyways a few roguelikes out there take years of replays to beat, I generally don't play much of those though.

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Because we all know that they're the hardest. I'm more interested in finding out games that I can play and enjoy due to difficulty. It's the same reason I want only localized games.
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Mega Man 9. Every other response fails, I am the victor. Prize?

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was it tougher than the original mega man?
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Ghosts N Goblins? :P110million
I was going to say this. Though I really didn't play much of it. Of what I played... I remember being frustrated.
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#19 organic_machine
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Final Doom.

On the easiest diffculty, it's impossible.

Here's a VID as proof.

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#20 mythrol
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Hard is not the same as cheap. What made Demon's Souls so brilliant is that is was a difficult and challenging game without (in my opinion) ever being cheap or unfair.

If you are looking for utterly cheap, unfair, and frustrating games....you can find a lot more "difficult" games than Demon's Souls.

In that case my vote would be for the PC Game "I want to be the Guy". http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/ Check youtube for some videos if you are curious.

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I agree Demon's Souls had moments that were difficult and it never did really come across as CHEAP as you say. But it was not a hard game. The final boss can be killed with a bow without taking 1 step forward. Both dragons can be killed without ever taking damage. Phanalax can be taken out with fire or Soul Arrows (and in NG+ Soul Ray makes him a joke). Almost every boss can be killed with a manual aiming bow without ever even having to move. That said, I love the game. It's just not hard like everyone tried to make it seem. Hence my quest to find truly HARD games. Thanks for the link!
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Why exclude SHMUPs? Anyways a few roguelikes out there take years of replays to beat, I generally don't play much of those though.

mythrol

Because we all know that they're the hardest. I'm more interested in finding out games that I can play and enjoy due to difficulty. It's the same reason I want only localized games.

Try older SHMUPs like R-Type, Gradius, Thunderforce, etc, if you don't want to get into Bullet Hell yet, they are still challenging.

I would also suggest something like Rick Dangerous and Bucky O'Hare on "HARD!".

Those are all challenging, but there are a lot harder games out there.

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FZERO GX for the GC. I was able to complete the first two races in story mode and that was it.

I can't believe how unforgiving the game is

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#23 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Demon souls is a very hard game. So dont come with that Truely crap. Other hard games were NGS or NG or NGB just pick oneand.......ummmm im pretty sure I ran into hard games before but I cant remember them.

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No it's not. Use a shield = easy mode. Purple Flame Shield is great early on and once you get Large Brushwood Shield you almost never have to fear fire again (100% fire blocking). Demon's Souls has things that make the game difficult (like losing your souls when you die) but it is overall NOT a hard game. I played and beat most of it in Soul Form as to not mess up World Tendency's and didn't have trouble with any of the bosses. Sure you die in DS but almost everytime it's because YOU as a player did something wrong, allowing an opening to be killed. Or simply falling to your death.

Exacly thats what makes a hard game hard. It makes you think before you act. In NG you die because you werent quick enough does that make it easy now since you know why you died? No it makes you rethink things and get better atit.Also remember theres cheap and theres hard aka a challenge. Point is to call demon souls not a truely hard game is just silly.

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#24 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

Why exclude SHMUPs? Anyways a few roguelikes out there take years of replays to beat, I generally don't play much of those though.

Yandere

Because we all know that they're the hardest. I'm more interested in finding out games that I can play and enjoy due to difficulty. It's the same reason I want only localized games.

Try older SHMUPs like R-Type, Gradius, Thunderforce, etc, if you don't want to get into Bullet Hell yet, they are still challenging.

I would also suggest something like Rick Dangerous and Bucky O'Hare on "HARD!".

Those are all challenging, but there are a lot harder games out there.

I love Gradius. I also want to specifically stay away from Bullet Hell type games. Yes they're challenging and yes they're mostlikely technically the "hardest" games but to be honest I don't find them very fun (don't hate me.) I'll definitely check out Rick Dangerous though. Thanks!
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#25 mkaliaz
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I agree Demon's Souls had moments that were difficult and it never did really come across as CHEAP as you say. But it was not a hard game. The final boss can be killed with a bow without taking 1 step forward. Both dragons can be killed without ever taking damage. Phanalax can be taken out with fire or Soul Arrows (and in NG+ Soul Ray makes him a joke). Almost every boss can be killed with a manual aiming bow without ever even having to move. That said, I love the game. It's just not hard like everyone tried to make it seem. Hence my quest to find truly HARD games. Thanks for the link!mythrol

Heh, no problem! Also, I agree with you. The majority of the fights, I read about tactics to cheese the fights, particularly with the bow and sometimes with magic. In my playthrough I went 100% melee (except for the boss at 4-3), so I got a pretty nice challenge.

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Ghosts N Goblins? :P110million

Agree. That have to be the hardest game ever, but it's so fun.

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[QUOTE="BlindfireMcgee"]

Mega Man 9. Every other response fails, I am the victor. Prize?

Ontain

was it tougher than the original mega man?

Personally,I'd say Mega Man 1 was harder. It's about as basic as Mega Man has ever been,and there are no items to help make parts of the game easier.

On topic,Contra 4. It's just plain absurd in how difficult it is. There isn't even a save system,which makes the game harder,albeit in a way that's more annoying and dated than legitimately "challenging."

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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Demon souls is a very hard game. So dont come with that Truely crap. Other hard games were NGS or NG or NGB just pick oneand.......ummmm im pretty sure I ran into hard games before but I cant remember them.

finalfantasy94

No it's not. Use a shield = easy mode. Purple Flame Shield is great early on and once you get Large Brushwood Shield you almost never have to fear fire again (100% fire blocking). Demon's Souls has things that make the game difficult (like losing your souls when you die) but it is overall NOT a hard game. I played and beat most of it in Soul Form as to not mess up World Tendency's and didn't have trouble with any of the bosses. Sure you die in DS but almost everytime it's because YOU as a player did something wrong, allowing an opening to be killed. Or simply falling to your death.

Exacly thats what makes a hard game hard. It makes you think before you act. In NG you die because you werent quick enough does that make it easy now?

It's not hard. You turn a corner and accidentally run off a cliff. Or mistime running past fire. Or don't have your shield up and get ambushed. Those things make DS difficult or a challenge, but nowhere near "hard". Like I've stated multiple times. Almost every boss can be killed without moving or with very little risk of death. It's a great game, but it does not deserve the "hard" title that people keep putting on it. Having people argue that it is hard saddens me, because it shows just how unskillful current gen gamers are.
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#30 mkaliaz
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GameTrailers has a pretty nice top 10 hardest games ever countdown video (7 minutes) thats worth a watch.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-ten-gt-countdown/38283

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#31 SecretPolice
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This was hella hard to complete as i remember tho I'm not sure it was the hardest, it was the first game I thought of.

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I would definitely have to say Ninja Gaiden. The Alma boss fight literally had made me tearful(I know, pathetic right?)--I had never been so angry and frustrated with a game before NG. I was much younger at the time though and the Xbox controller was easily the most uncomfortable controller I have ever had the displeasure of holding(it was entirely too big for my hands). I'm probably capable of beating it now though.

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#34 mythrol
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GameTrailers has a pretty nice top 10 hardest games ever countdown video (7 minutes) thats worth a watch.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-ten-gt-countdown/38283

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Thanks awesome. Thanks!
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im with him on that one

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="mythrol"] No it's not. Use a shield = easy mode. Purple Flame Shield is great early on and once you get Large Brushwood Shield you almost never have to fear fire again (100% fire blocking). Demon's Souls has things that make the game difficult (like losing your souls when you die) but it is overall NOT a hard game. I played and beat most of it in Soul Form as to not mess up World Tendency's and didn't have trouble with any of the bosses. Sure you die in DS but almost everytime it's because YOU as a player did something wrong, allowing an opening to be killed. Or simply falling to your death.mythrol

Exacly thats what makes a hard game hard. It makes you think before you act. In NG you die because you werent quick enough does that make it easy now?

It's not hard. You turn a corner and accidentally run off a cliff. Or mistime running past fire. Or don't have your shield up and get ambushed. Those things make DS difficult or a challenge, but nowhere near "hard". Like I've stated multiple times. Almost every boss can be killed without moving or with very little risk of death. It's a great game, but it does not deserve the "hard" title that people keep putting on it. Having people argue that it is hard saddens me, because it shows just how unskillful current gen gamers are.

Dude you can have your opinion on whats hard,but to call someone unskillful cause you think your some gaming god cause you figured out some things on your own. Well im hoping it was on your own with no guides at all since thats what I did with the game I went in blind. Is just downright wrong and makes you look silly and cocky which by the way is a very anoying personality trait.

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Dude you can have your opinion on whats hard,but to call someone unskillful cause you think your some gaming god cause you figured out some things on your own. Well im hoping it was on your own with no guides at all since thats what I did with the game I went in blind. Is just downright wrong and makes you look silly and cocky which by the way is a very anoying personality trait.

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Never said or implied I was so gaming god. Just said that I found DS not hard. A challenge, yes. Hard, no. The fact that almost every boss can be killed with almost no risk of death backs me up on this. Go watch the GameTrailer's top 10 that was posted in this thread. The first thing they said is "A game difficultly can't be broken". DS's difficultly can be broken far too easily simply by aiming a bow in manual mode. That's not to say the GAME is broken. Only that it's difficulty was not up to snuff. Then after beating it I read how NG+ was a HUGE STEP UP in difficulty . . .and it was not.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Dude you can have your opinion on whats hard,but to call someone unskillful cause you think your some gaming god cause you figured out some things on your own. Well im hoping it was on your own with no guides at all since thats what I did with the game I went in blind. Is just downright wrong and makes you look silly and cocky which by the way is a very anoying personality trait.

mythrol

Never said or implied I was so gaming god. Just said that I found DS not hard. A challenge, yes. Hard, no. The fact that almost every boss can be killed with almost no risk of death backs me up on this. Go watch the GameTrailer's top 10 that was posted in this thread. The first thing they said is "A game difficultly can't be broken". DS's difficultly can be broken far too easily simply by aiming a bow in manual mode. That's not to say the GAME is broken. Only that it's difficulty was not up to snuff. Then after beating it I read how NG+ was a HUGE STEP UP in difficulty . . .and it was not.

No it doesint it just shows that you found a way to beat the bosses. Finding out things doesint exclude the hardness of a game. Hell thats the point of it. A hard game makes you think instead of going rambo on it. Also yea NG+ is a step up in difficulty. Iv seen top 10 hard list long ago it doesint change anything.

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#40 klusps
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I have a few that is on the top of my list:

Ninja Gaiden

Starcraft & Broodwar campaign(one of the hardest frustrating game I've played)

COD4-There No Fighting in War Room(veteran)

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Warcraft One when I was in third grade was the hardest thing I have ever played (at the time)
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="mythrol"] No it's not. Use a shield = easy mode. Purple Flame Shield is great early on and once you get Large Brushwood Shield you almost never have to fear fire again (100% fire blocking). Demon's Souls has things that make the game difficult (like losing your souls when you die) but it is overall NOT a hard game. I played and beat most of it in Soul Form as to not mess up World Tendency's and didn't have trouble with any of the bosses. Sure you die in DS but almost everytime it's because YOU as a player did something wrong, allowing an opening to be killed. Or simply falling to your death.mythrol

Exacly thats what makes a hard game hard. It makes you think before you act. In NG you die because you werent quick enough does that make it easy now?

It's not hard. You turn a corner and accidentally run off a cliff. Or mistime running past fire. Or don't have your shield up and get ambushed. Those things make DS difficult or a challenge, but nowhere near "hard". Like I've stated multiple times. Almost every boss can be killed without moving or with very little risk of death. It's a great game, but it does not deserve the "hard" title that people keep putting on it. Having people argue that it is hard saddens me, because it shows just how unskillful current gen gamers are.

or maybe it shows how many casual gamers there are. Dude you put in 100 hours in that game and the average play through is around 30 hours for NG and significantly less in the 2nd play through. All i got to say is kudos to your devotion to that game.
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ninja gaiden.. i played a part of the game

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Mega Man 9 I have only done one level.

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#46 skektek
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So I recently got Demon's Souls and then proceeded to play it for almost 100 hours. What struck me most was people all over saying how HARD it was suppose to be. Expecting a great challenge I popped the disc in and proceeded to not die once through 1-1. Nor was any other point in the game rather difficult (there's tons of easy ways to kill almost every boss. Even the last one). Now having beat it on NG+ as well. . .I found myself disappointed in gamers who all claimed it was ULTRA HARD (the game is great btw).

This got me thinking: What games are TRUELY HARD? Please Exclude SHUMPS and non localized games that I'll never be able to play.

So SW's, what say you?

What's the HARDEST game you've ever played?

mythrol

Ghost's 'N' Goblins, Deadly Towers, Shadow of the Beast series, and Demon's Souls.

Did you try NG+ entirely in body form? That is ****in' hard. You get invaded a lot making you die a lot, turning your world tendancy to all black, making it even harder.

I was invaded 6 times while killing the red dragon.

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#47 DivineSword  Moderator
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The hardest game I have ever played was the Battletoad game back then for the Sega Genesis. The actual gameplay wasn't all that bad to be quite honest but the platforming aspect of it was just a totally different story. I was never able to get the timing down for it, and as a result I always failed when I get to this point of the game!

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#48 Fizzman
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Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja difficulty. It was an exercise in futility

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#49 racing1750
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Ninja gaiden 2.
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#50 waynehead895
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Ninja gaiden 2.racing1750
I think the second was more cheap than Hard in some cases. Black on the other hand didn't feel cheap at all.