The humble PC the true king of platforms?

As the title suggests the PC is still very quietly moving onwards through the changing landscapes of gaming and still holding its own. So consider what it has to offer in terms of quantity and quality of games, the still unrivalled online experience(yes xb live gamers the pc makes your chosen online service look slightly limp), MMOs, and the yet to be trumped mouse/keyboard FPS control method. I could mention xb,ps3 and even Wii exclusives but the PC has 'em too WOW anyone? So i think the PC could be regarded as a contender for King of platforms!

And remember the 3D stereoscopic gaming and HD has been around for a decade or so already on pc!

It goes without saying.

Consoles are worth owning for exclusives (though the only one I *really* love this generation is my DS), but the PC has always been my primary platform. It's not the be-all end-all gaming platform, but it's certainly the closest thing to it, imo.

The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

Console's get all the press, have massive marketing budgets, and corporate promotions.

The PC has none of this.

Yet when you look at how flexible the PC is, the ability for some of the games to be modded, incredible gaming deals that are available through digital distribution, it is easy to conclude that the PC is quite viable.

On the downside, most games are mutli-platform which means not much changes in terms of technical progress. Consoles have long, long technicalcycles and therefore they are holding back some of the progress that existed prior to Microsoft releasing the Xbox and especially the 360.

But this fact also has an upside for PC gamers. It means they don't have to upgrade as often. In fact, you can play just about everything fine with an 8800GTX video card from, what about four or five years ago?

I would never claim a platform to be the 'best', as I think personal preference will always dictate such allegations. However, the PC is definitely the most flexible platform. When you look at the indie scene, the modding community, and the bigger variety of games that are truly unique, the PC at least deserves sympathy for offering a stage to developer talent that isn't backed by million dollar publishers. It's truly a unique gaming platform.

The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

o0squishy0o

The 'humble' might not necessarily refer to the audience. I'll agree PC gamers aren't the most modest and humble people out there, but when you look at the indie scene and the modding community, and the fact that basically anyone with talent and ambition can try their luck on the PC before anything else, the PC could very well be considered a humble platform.

The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

o0squishy0o

The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

devious742

Just to be the opposition, Keyboard/Mouse has never been able to match a well designed controller.R3FURBISHED

Which is why Microsoft killed PC vs Xbox 360 play?

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The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Just to be the opposition, Keyboard/Mouse has never been able to match a well designed controller.Vesica_Prime

Which is why Microsoft killed PC vs Xbox 360 play?

Console's get all the press, have massive marketing budgets, and corporate promotions.CheckMate

Exactly, and this is the sole reason why some people think that console gaming is bigger.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Just to be the opposition, Keyboard/Mouse has never been able to match a well designed controller.w4rrior17

Which is why Microsoft killed PC vs Xbox 360 play?

Damn GameSpot bugs. Here's the link.

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="devious742"] right:roll: and the console crowd is the wisest... most mature audience of them all... they know what they are talking about when they say that pc gaming is dying, PC only has WoW, PCs cost $5000.00, etc

w4rrior17

But that isn't part of the console, a console costs 'x' amount. I could do a Falcon Northwest or a $4000 SSD...and that would actually be a part of the machine, and not an accessory.

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Which is why Microsoft killed PC vs Xbox 360 play?

Vesica_Prime

Damn GameSpot bugs. Here's the link.

That is just for the average player though, because Microsoft doesn't want to alienate any of their audience.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"] Nice trenchcoat.R3FURBISHED

Damn GameSpot bugs. Here's the link.

That is just for the average player though, because Microsoft doesn't want to alienate any of their audience.

"Problems quickly arose in testing, however, when Microsoft found that even the best console gamers simply couldn't compete with the accuracy a mouse and keyboard afforded a PC player."

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"] And you could very easily make a $5000 computerR3FURBISHED

But that isn't part of the console, a console costs 'x' amount. I could do a Falcon Northwest or a $4000 SSD...and that would actually be a part of the machine, and not an accessory.

And again, on the flip side, I say you can buy a good gaming computer for $400. And you guys come at me with "what about the monitor, keyboard, mouse, operating system, etc" But when I say it (needing a flatscreen, etc)for console gaming, you discard it. Hmm.

Mmmmh, console fanboy tears with a side dish of persecution complex ;)

The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

o0squishy0o

In other news, the sky is blue. :P

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

The humble PC? since when has the PC been humble at all. Its "hardcore" users are the most elitest *****s. No other platform audience have I come across more people talking about things they have no idea about and are convinced they are correct.

Is the PC the best platform. Yes. Humble? nope.

devious742

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[QUOTE="w4rrior17"] So? You don't have to. You could very easily buy a $5,00 flat screen for your console too.w4rrior17

But that isn't part of the console, a console costs 'x' amount. I could do a Falcon Northwest or a $4000 SSD...and that would actually be a part of the machine, and not an accessory.

And again, on the flip side, I say you can buy a good gaming computer for $400. And you guys come at me with "what about the monitor, keyboard, mouse, operating system, etc" But when I say it (needing a flatscreen, etc)for console gaming, you discard it. Hmm.

I already have a computer, and one that I am pretty satisfied with. My point was to merely show that to say a computer could cost you upwards of $5000 is not totally unbelievable.

To say that a console costs 'thousands of dollars" is not true because the console costs 'x' amount. It is the accessories that add up, just like with everything else though.

Is the PC the best for graphics? yes.

Is it the best for games? nope.

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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Damn GameSpot bugs. Here's the link.

Vesica_Prime

That is just for the average player though, because Microsoft doesn't want to alienate any of their audience.

"Problems quickly arose in testing, however, when Microsoft found that even the best console gamers simply couldn't compete with the accuracy a mouse and keyboard afforded a PC player."

I guess if you go by "Most amount of categories won", then probably. PC offers a lot to any crowd. However, subjectivity will raise it's ugly head repeatedly when regarding different things.

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]

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But that isn't part of the console, a console costs 'x' amount. I could do a Falcon Northwest or a $4000 SSD...and that would actually be a part of the machine, and not an accessory.

R3FURBISHED

And again, on the flip side, I say you can buy a good gaming computer for $400. And you guys come at me with "what about the monitor, keyboard, mouse, operating system, etc" But when I say it (needing a flatscreen, etc)for console gaming, you discard it. Hmm.

I already have a computer, and one that I am pretty satisfied with. My point was to merely show that to say a computer could cost you upwards of $5000 is not totally unbelievable.

To say that a console costs 'thousands of dollars" is not true because the console costs 'x' amount. It is the accessories that add up, just like with everything else though.

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

But that isn't part of the console, a console costs 'x' amount. I could do a Falcon Northwest or a $4000 SSD...and that would actually be a part of the machine, and not an accessory.

And again, on the flip side, I say you can buy a good gaming computer for $400. And you guys come at me with "what about the monitor, keyboard, mouse, operating system, etc" But when I say it (needing a flatscreen, etc)for console gaming, you discard it. Hmm.

I already have a computer, and one that I am pretty satisfied with. My point was to merely show that to say a computer could cost you upwards of $5000 is not totally unbelievable.

To say that a console costs 'thousands of dollars" is not true because the console costs 'x' amount. It is the accessories that add up, just like with everything else though.

What the use of console that cost " x" amount that can't even play gamesbadtaker

All consoles can play all games developed for them

[QUOTE="badtaker"]What the use of console that cost " x" amount that can't even play gamesR3FURBISHED

All consoles can play all games developed for them

[QUOTE="badtaker"]What the use of console that cost " x" amount that can't even play gamesR3FURBISHED

All consoles can play all games developed for them

So consider what it has to offer

Pantburster

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[QUOTE="badtaker"]What the use of console that cost " x" amount that can't even play gamesbadtaker

All consoles can play all games developed for them

Or 200$ ones.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

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That is just for the average player though, because Microsoft doesn't want to alienate any of their audience.

R3FURBISHED

"Problems quickly arose in testing, however, when Microsoft found that even the best console gamers simply couldn't compete with the accuracy a mouse and keyboard afforded a PC player."

Yes, it's just you. Everyone has his preferences, but it is a fact that the mouse/keyboard provides superior accuracy and movement, and the article proves it.

It's all irrelevant anyway, seeing as you can just plug a controller into your PC.

Does said console come with a built in screen to view these said games developed for them?w4rrior17

[QUOTE="Pantburster"]

So consider what it has to offer

lowe0

Hey lowe, how's that new XBox?

It's pretty crappy, but it's really simple. I love it.

Yay.

Im sorry, but no. Only enthusiasts that don't game, rather just go for bench scores spend more than five grand on a computer. Gaming enthusiasts usually spend around $1000 give or take. And I;d liek to point out I said enthusiasts too, most PC gamers can get away with spending $4-500 on a rig. And with the little extra money spent over buying a $300 console comes huge advangates that consoles simply don't have. So of course you pay more for a superior product.w4rrior17

My computer cost me around $1200, and excluding all the things that make a computer, well, a computer (only taking gaming into the picture) I have yet to notice anything on a gaming computer that makes it stand out from my $300 360S...except for maybe superior disk drives.

Is this rather subjective? Yes. But it is all I have to go on. Just as you do, because I would never consider a $500 computer to be better than my 360S.

[QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

All consoles can play all games developed for them

Or 200$ ones.

[QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

All consoles can play all games developed for them

waltefmoney

Or 200$ ones.

So consider what it has to offer

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]Im sorry, but no. Only enthusiasts that don't game, rather just go for bench scores spend more than five grand on a computer. Gaming enthusiasts usually spend around $1000 give or take. And I;d liek to point out I said enthusiasts too, most PC gamers can get away with spending $4-500 on a rig. And with the little extra money spent over buying a $300 console comes huge advangates that consoles simply don't have. So of course you pay more for a superior product.R3FURBISHED

My computer cost me around $1200, and excluding all the things that make a computer, well, a computer (only taking gaming into the picture) I have yet to notice anything on a gaming computer that makes it stand out from my $300 360S...except for maybe superior disk drives.

Is this rather subjective? Yes. But it is all I have to go on. Just as you do, because I would never consider a $500 computer to be better than my 360S.

you missed the entire point again :lol: go to first page and read comments of R3FURBISHED badtaker

Even I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

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[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]Im sorry, but no. Only enthusiasts that don't game, rather just go for bench scores spend more than five grand on a computer. Gaming enthusiasts usually spend around $1000 give or take. And I;d liek to point out I said enthusiasts too, most PC gamers can get away with spending $4-500 on a rig. And with the little extra money spent over buying a $300 console comes huge advangates that consoles simply don't have. So of course you pay more for a superior product.w4rrior17

My computer cost me around $1200, and excluding all the things that make a computer, well, a computer (only taking gaming into the picture) I have yet to notice anything on a gaming computer that makes it stand out from my $300 360S...except for maybe superior disk drives.

Is this rather subjective? Yes. But it is all I have to go on. Just as you do, because I would never consider a $500 computer to be better than my 360S.

I did...and had a friend who knew more about all the components help me because I didn't want to botch anything by doing it myself.

[QUOTE="badtaker"]you missed the entire point again :lol: go to first page and read comments of R3FURBISHED R3FURBISHED

Even I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Uhm.. what's going on?

[QUOTE="badtaker"]you missed the entire point again :lol: go to first page and read comments of R3FURBISHED R3FURBISHED

Even I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

[QUOTE="badtaker"]you missed the entire point again :lol: go to first page and read comments of R3FURBISHED waltefmoney

Even I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Uhm.. what's going on?

System wars as usual :P