There was a really nice panel at PAX East discussing the future of PC gaming.
"The speakers were Oculus VR founder Palmer Luckey, Planetside 2 Creative Director Matt Higby, Star Citizen Creative Director Chris Roberts, Nvidia Director of Technical marketing Tom Petersen and PC Gamer Editor in Chief Evan Lahti as a moderator." http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/04/12/developers-explain-why-pc-gaming-has-never-been-stronger-24-billion-dollars-yearly-revenue-estimated/
"PC Gaming is open, it’s high powered, it’s flexible, moddable, malleable, it’s not “one size fits all,” it’s gaming greatest breeding ground for experimentation and original ideas. There’s no platform that offers the same amount of choice, value, variety and performance as PC gaming."
Hopefully the future of PC gaming is simply gaming as a whole. It's time to do away with these crappy closed standard consoles. Look what consoles do, they make people sit around squabbling about which netbook APU can squeak out 900p or 1080p at 30 fps on medium settings, talking about 1.8 TFLOPS like that's impressive. Meanwhile PCs are sitting there with 5 TFLOPS of unused potential because the industry is currently dominated by these underpowered pieces of crap.
Maybe Steambox can change the game and make people realize using low end hardware for 8-10 years is stupid. Imagine how much faster progress could be made if we didn't have to wait a decade for the standard to go up, and instead only had to wait maybe 2-3 months?
@xboxdone74: you're such a cute little peasant, i bet you didn't even bother watching the whole video did you? afraid to hear some facts? you posted 10 minutes after the video was posted and the video is 1 hour long, so im sure you just came into this thread to try and troll right?
such a peasant, enjoy having relying heavily on a console company for your experience.
i also love how the peasants on this forum have more posts than pc gamers, they just love to argue for second place
Casual bejewel facebook games with microtransations are the future. Unless it's an MMO or multiplayer title that can't be pirated developers mostly just ignore the pc.
So I actually watched the video and my favorite part was "Building a PC is fun".
I was in shock and laughter. I am a console gamer and I am terrified of the thought of attempting to build my own PC. I don't know the difference between the 50 graphics cards, sound cards, motherboards etc. Then I have to research all that stuff and learn what I want. Then I need to find the right Power unit, find a case, find a HDD. Then you expect me to put all that stuff together? You expect me put that all together? What if the card I buy does not fit into one of those PCI slot things? How the hell would I install an intercooler?
Then actually installing an OS, updating games, finding drivers.....this sounds like the opposite of fun to me when I can just spend the $400 on a console and just play games.
This sounds like an impossible and daunting task for me. Sorry, but I am a not a nerd like you guys. You got too many options and you don't explain it easy enough. I would kill myself trying to make my own PC.
Give me a break. Many of the PS4's best games are hand-me-downs from the PC. I've also heard plenty of begging from PS4 owners in threads about PC games like The Forest or Star Citizen. You guys act like all of the games on PC suck, but when you finally get a few you are super happy and act like they are amazing games all of a sudden.
Give me a break. Many of the PS4's best games are hand-me-downs from the PC. I've also heard plenty of begging from PS4 owners in threads about PC games like The Forest or Star Citizen. You guys act like all of the games on PC suck, but when you finally get a few you are super happy and act like they are amazing games all of a sudden.
it's really best to not engage him. You wont get anywhere if you do
The PC may be a massive platform, but it does lack the talent from major studios such as Naughty Dog, Santa Monica Studios, Media Molecule and Insomniac. Amazing studios like those are the ONLY reason I own a console.
@Jankarcop: Don't reply to XboxDone. He will call you a "PC beggar", say you probably can't afford an actual PC because you're not succesful like him, even tho he has a PS4. Then when you ask if he even has a PC, he'll post a pic of a fucking Surface Pro that he calls "not a tablet,but motion computing, which is more powerful than your PC" Then, 20 people will call him an idiot and he'll disapear from the thread and find another PC related thread. The guys a loser.
@Jankarcop: Don't reply to XboxDone. He will call you a "PC beggar", say you probably can't afford an actual PC because you're not succesful like him, even tho he has a PS4. Then when you ask if he even has a PC, he'll post a pic of a fucking Surface Pro that he calls "not a tablet,but motion computing, which is more powerful than your PC" Then, 20 people will call him an idiot and he'll disapear from the thread and find another PC related thread. The guys a loser.
Being a PC fan is such an enormous honor. It's like having an all-access pass to gaming. Console gaming is like being pinned beneath a vending machine with a scorpion laying it's offspring into your naval while you hallucinate on psychedelic coral extract.
So much jelly in this post. You're going to miss a tons of great games if you only play on PS4. Not to mention seeing multiplatforms games the way they're meant to be played. And mods. I can't imagine playing something like Fallout or Elder Scrolls on consoles. What a waste of money..
Casual bejewel facebook games with microtransations are the future. Unless it's an MMO or multiplayer title that can't be pirated developers mostly just ignore the pc.
yes indeed. I mean is not like we just got a new Civ game or a crowd funded game has a higher budget than most console exclusives
My gaming PCs are for exclusive games only (I have four rigs).
Until PC games allow the benefits of used games, as a collector I can't justify supporting multiplats on it unless they are pennies on the dollar. I love Blizzard, I have hundreds of DD games from GOG, Steam, Origin, etc...but I am very careful on what I buy on PC. I would love to lend out games that I don't play to family and I would LOVE to sell DD games that I despise that I bought on sale and turned out to be duds, but I can't on PC. I know Steam, one of the many PC retailers has some ideas, but it's not enough and certainly not universal.
Most of all, as a gaming historian and collector, I value non DRM retail physical copies of games. Something I can share with my offspring years now, or sell if I chose too.
I'm glad technology keeps going forward and I'm looking forward to the exclusive PC experiences coming in the future like StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void, etc.
My gaming PCs are for exclusive games only (I have four rigs).
Until PC games allow the benefits of used games, as a collector I can't justify supporting multiplats on it unless they are pennies on the dollar. I love Blizzard, I have hundreds of DD games from GOG, Steam, Origin, etc...but I am very careful on what I buy on PC. I would love to lend out games that I don't play to family and I would LOVE to sell DD games that I despise that I bought on sale and turned out to be duds, but I can't on PC. I know Steam, one of the many PC retailers has some ideas, but it's not enough and certainly not universal.
Most of all, as a gaming historian and collector, I value non DRM retail physical copies of games. Something I can share with my offspring years now, or sell if I chose too.
I'm glad technology keeps going forward and I'm looking forward to the exclusive PC experiences coming in the future like StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void, etc.
steam has family share that allows others to play your games and greenmangaming allows you to trade some of its game ( the ones that are non steam bound )
My gaming PCs are for exclusive games only (I have four rigs).
Until PC games allow the benefits of used games, as a collector I can't justify supporting multiplats on it unless they are pennies on the dollar. I love Blizzard, I have hundreds of DD games from GOG, Steam, Origin, etc...but I am very careful on what I buy on PC. I would love to lend out games that I don't play to family and I would LOVE to sell DD games that I despise that I bought on sale and turned out to be duds, but I can't on PC. I know Steam, one of the many PC retailers has some ideas, but it's not enough and certainly not universal.
Most of all, as a gaming historian and collector, I value non DRM retail physical copies of games. Something I can share with my offspring years now, or sell if I chose too.
I'm glad technology keeps going forward and I'm looking forward to the exclusive PC experiences coming in the future like StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void, etc.
steam has family share that allows others to play your games and greenmangaming allows you to trade some of its game ( the ones that are non steam bound )
That's the problem, I don't want them to "allow" it. I don't want their permission for games I bought.
I know and I mentioned/hinted Steam have some ideas above (underlined) but they aren't the only PC games retailer, and as a GAMES collector (noted above) that prizes his collection, those tiny measures you mentioned are not nearly enough to make up for what is lost to the consumer as I outlined above. Not nearly enough.
It's fine. I accepted this years ago as I've been PC gaming before FPS was a "bonafide genre". I remember Shareware. I will continue to buy PC exclusive games but at cheap prices due to DRM.
I accept this as a reality will be probably forever, but it's also why I will never rely on PC gaming as my main outlet of gaming. I love PC gaming and I love LANing my rigs to play all sorts of games with family and friends. I wish things were different, but companies have to do what they have to do, and as a consumer, I have to do what I feel I have to do. I do enjoy RTS and MMOs on PC especially.
Besides, there are too many developers that don't visit my PCs as well. I can't miss out on those.
The future is digital, but in the meantime I'll exercise my rights while I can. We aren't in the future yet and I have choices still. I don't expect to change anything/people opinions, but I will enjoy what time I have with my physical, sell-able collection of non-PC retail games which I prize. People live differently and in my household, being able to sell, trade, lend, borrow, collect games with ease and no internet required is vital. <----not part of this list is what I want, all of this list. I can exercise and practice these consumer rights today on consoles. That's why my PCs are for exclusives.
Great video, gives great incite on PC gaming's future. It does look even brighter.
@PinkiePirate said:
The PC may be a massive platform, but it does lack the talent from major studios such as Naughty Dog, Santa Monica Studios, Media Molecule and Insomniac. Amazing studios like those are the ONLY reason I own a console.
Likewise my friend. Likewise. (im starting to sound like @uninspiredcup :\ )
Basically, I'm always forced to own a console for the Japanese developers games as well. Maybe that will change this gen, since more of them are interested in supporting the PC platform more. (Square-enix, capcom, Konami)
"PC Gaming is open, it’s high powered, it’s flexible, moddable, malleable, it’s not “one size fits all,” it’s gaming greatest breeding ground for experimentation and original ideas. There’s no platform that offers the same amount of choice, value, variety and performance as PC gaming."
Thoughts?
That's exactly what it is:
"breeding ground for experimentation and original ideas"
When something is experimented with or when PC does something before consoles it's laughed off by console fanboys. Yet, when consoles do it some time later it's suddenly the most important thing ever.
Case in point: HD resolution, 1080p resolution, mods, lots of indie support, etc...
@Suppaman100 said:
@xboxdone74 said:
A future of begging for ports of console games?
Eh...enjoy I suppose.
Haha this.
PC gaming has become a joke. If it wasn't for the indies there would be nothing interesting on PC at all.
Sucks to be a PC only gamer.
Yeah, all it has is more games than all 3 current gen consoles put together.
"PC Gaming is open, it’s high powered, it’s flexible, moddable, malleable, it’s not “one size fits all,” it’s gaming greatest breeding ground for experimentation and original ideas. There’s no platform that offers the same amount of choice, value, variety and performance as PC gaming."
Thoughts?
That's exactly what it is:
"breeding ground for experimentation and original ideas"
When something is experimented with or when PC does something before consoles it's laughed off by console fanboys. Yet, when consoles do it some time later it's suddenly the most important thing ever.
Case in point: HD resolution, 1080p resolution, mods, lots of indie support, etc...
@Suppaman100 said:
@xboxdone74 said:
A future of begging for ports of console games?
Eh...enjoy I suppose.
Haha this.
PC gaming has become a joke. If it wasn't for the indies there would be nothing interesting on PC at all.
Sucks to be a PC only gamer.
Yeah, all it has is more games than all 3 current gen consoles put together.
Must suck so hard to be a console only gamer XD
Lol, typical hermits. Quantiy > Quality for hermits.
RTS are awesome . Those are just too difficult for some casuals to handle and since those are not possible on consoles so that automatically makes them bad right .?
PC gaming has everything going for it except there's always that big Elephant in the room called piracy .
A lot of those self proclaimed master race members are nothing then petty thieves, they pay their shiny new hardware by stealing most of their software and screwing themselves in the end .
Lol, typical hermits. Quantiy > Quality for hermits.
Explains why PC never wins a GOTY. XD
Typical consolite BS: If a game ain't GOTY it's not worth playing.
PC has got quantity and quality. More A, AA and AAA scoring games than any console. Try again, your arguments fail hard.
Yeah, like I said a sh*t ton of indie games that are scored with different standards.th
But even with all those "AAA"games, PC can't win a GOTY...now why's that?
I don't get this whole "GOTY" shit. So what if it wins GOTY, there are plenty of other games that didn't win GOTY that are worth playing...
Of course there are.
Just pointing out that hermits claim to have a TON of good exclusives but none of those great exclusives is able to win a GOTY.
It's even rare to have a PC exclusive in the running for winning a GOTY, let alone actually winning the award.
Conclusion: Yes PC has a lot of (indie) games but most of them lack in quality and thus PC almost never wins a GOTY.
Console exclusives on average, are of higher quality than PC exclusives.
No they are not. It's a fact that more PC games score A, AA and AAA on this site and others.
And you just right that fact off like it's nothing, like it's all indie games.
You are trying to make it seem like if something doesn't win GOTY it's not worth playing, and a system that doesn't have GOTYs is a system without games that are worth playing.
And frankly that's the biggest BS I have ever heard.
Lol, typical hermits. Quantiy > Quality for hermits.
Explains why PC never wins a GOTY. XD
Typical consolite BS: If a game ain't GOTY it's not worth playing.
PC has got quantity and quality. More A, AA and AAA scoring games than any console. Try again, your arguments fail hard.
Yeah, like I said a sh*t ton of indie games that are scored with different standards.th
But even with all those "AAA"games, PC can't win a GOTY...now why's that?
I don't get this whole "GOTY" shit. So what if it wins GOTY, there are plenty of other games that didn't win GOTY that are worth playing...
Of course there are.
Just pointing out that hermits claim to have a TON of good exclusives but none of those great exclusives is able to win a GOTY.
It's even rare to have a PC exclusive in the running for winning a GOTY, let alone actually winning the award.
Conclusion: Yes PC has a lot of (indie) games but most of them lack in quality and thus PC almost never wins a GOTY.
Console exclusives on average, are of higher quality than PC exclusives.
No they are not. It's a fact that more PC games score A, AA and AAA on this site and others.
And you just right that fact off like it's nothing, like it's all indie games.
You are trying to make it seem like if something doesn't win GOTY it's not worth playing, and a system that doesn't have GOTYs is a system without games that are worth playing.
And frankly that's the biggest BS I have ever heard.
Lol never said that non GOTY games are not worthy of being played.
But I find it ironic that hermits claim PC has the most and best games...yet none of those PC exclusives is able to win an award, let alone GOTY. Like I said the quality of PC exclusives is lower than console exclusives, because most PC exclusives are indies and are rated with lower standards. It's that simple.
And I'm not even talking about hermits begging to get console exclusives...yet they claim to have the best games. Lol
PC gaming has become a joke and has been living the shadow of console gaming for years.
Lol never said that non GOTY games are not worthy of being played.
But I find it ironic that hermits claim PC has the most and best games...yet none of those PC exclusives is able to win an award, let alone GOTY. Like I said the quality of PC exclusives is lower than console exclusives, because most PC exclusives are indies and are rated with lower standards. It's that simple.
And I'm not even talking about hermits begging to get console exclusives...yet they claim to have the best games. Lol
PC gaming has become a joke and has been living the shadow of console gaming for years.
Yet, you constantly do. You constantly write off all the quality games that PC has, because they didn't win GOTY.
So you are in fact implying that if a game can't win GOTY it's not of high quality, which is absolute bogus.
You are also implying that all pc games are somehow indie games that are rated with lower standards. What a pity excuse to write off the fact that PC has many more quality games than any single console.
All of these of your arguments can't be backed up with facts. While PC having more A, AA and AAA games than any single console is indeed a fact. One you continuasly try to write off by saying things like
"They are indie games that were rated with lower standards"
"No PC game managed to win GOTY, yet console games did, so console games are of higher quality"
Back those statements up with actual facts if you can.
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