The Killzone Franchise=Blinx, Dead to Rights, The Getaway...

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#1 shsonline
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In other words, games that had a pretty interesting principle and some intriguing possibilities but then fell flat on their face. And unfortunately these games all had sequels, kinda like Killzone. But as we learned...sequels to original games that flopped that had promise doesn't mean that the franchise will be successful the second time around.

LOL @ those who hype Killzone 2
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#2 PSBox3SixWi
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i dunno man. looks pretty good to me. Dont judge things based only on their past.
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#3 JiveT
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WAHHH I like BLINX...not really...but I wanted to like it.

I did enjoy DEAD TO RIGHTS though. It was over the top fun and the disarms were awesome. Never played the sequel for some reason though.

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#4 darklord888
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Blinx, christ. That game looked so good and it ended up just...ugh.
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#5 EPaul
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Technically Killzone is not a Franchise well unless you count Killzone Liberation which was pretty good as it got an 8. something
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#6 Dreams-Visions
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Considering Guerilla/Sony has put something like $50 million into this game, I expect it will be better than most bad game franchises.
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Brute Force, KillSwitch, Advent Rising...

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#8 darklord888
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Considering Guerilla/Sony has put something like $50 million into this game, I expect it will be better than most bad game franchises.Dreams-Visions


Sony put more into the last Pirates movie and that sucked badly.

Big budget does NOT mean good game.
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In other words, games that had a pretty interesting principle and some intriguing possibilities but then fell flat on their face. And unfortunately these games all had sequels, kinda like Killzone. But as we learned...sequels to original games that flopped that had promise doesn't mean that the franchise will be successful the second time around.

LOL @ those who hype Killzone 2
shsonline

...but we also know that just because a prior game sucked, doesn't mean the sequel will.

People are hyped for Killzone 2 based on the gameplay footage, not based on the Killzone brand name.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]Considering Guerilla/Sony has put something like $50 million into this game, I expect it will be better than most bad game franchises.darklord888


Sony put more into the last Pirates movie and that sucked badly.

Big budget does NOT mean good game.

Sony had nothing to do with POTC. :?
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#11 aka_aj03
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]Considering Guerilla/Sony has put something like $50 million into this game, I expect it will be better than most bad game franchises.yellowandmushy


Sony put more into the last Pirates movie and that sucked badly.

Big budget does NOT mean good game.

Sony had nothing to do with POTC. :?

I think it was Spider Man 3... anyway according to box office... it was very successful... yet the movie suck.

I hope KillZone 2 won't follow the same path... successful in sales... but fall short on other things like gameplay... I hope KillZone 2 is a Win Win :D

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#12 darklord888
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]Considering Guerilla/Sony has put something like $50 million into this game, I expect it will be better than most bad game franchises.yellowandmushy


Sony put more into the last Pirates movie and that sucked badly.

Big budget does NOT mean good game.

Sony had nothing to do with POTC. :?



Wait I was thinking of Spider Man 3 not pirates. :P
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Not even, Killzone 2 looks great judging from what i have seen.
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[QUOTE="shsonline"]In other words, games that had a pretty interesting principle and some intriguing possibilities but then fell flat on their face. And unfortunately these games all had sequels, kinda like Killzone. But as we learned...sequels to original games that flopped that had promise doesn't mean that the franchise will be successful the second time around.

LOL @ those who hype Killzone 2
fuzzysquash

...but we also know that just because a prior game sucked, doesn't mean the sequel will.

People are hyped for Killzone 2 based on the gameplay footage, not based on the Killzone brand name.

That's the one thing xbox360 fanboys don't want to admit, and its the main reason for damage control threads like this.

Here's a better question: why are xbox360 fans so worried about killzone 2's status, presteege and hype, saying it's a trash franchise, when they turn right around and hype a trash sequel like Fable 2 (the first game was 7 hrs long and the sequel is said to be a wopping 8 ) and the worse gameplay mechanics I've seen in a game in years Too Human to no limit?

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In other words, games that had a pretty interesting principle and some intriguing possibilities but then fell flat on their face. And unfortunately these games all had sequels, kinda like Killzone. But as we learned...sequels to original games that flopped that had promise doesn't mean that the franchise will be successful the second time around.

LOL @ those who hype Killzone 2
shsonline

Um, it's true, people shouldn't hype it (I don't really see it hyped here as much as other games, if at all lately), you forgot one key point about this "FRANCHISE"...

...It took a good step with the sequel Killzone Liberation, also developed by Guerilla. Sure, it isn't the same type of game, but the FRANCHISE did take a turn for the GOOD, unlike BLINX, Getaway, etc.

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#16 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]Considering Guerilla/Sony has put something like $50 million into this game, I expect it will be better than most bad game franchises.darklord888


Sony put more into the last Pirates movie and that sucked badly.

Big budget does NOT mean good game.

Sony had nothing to do with POTC. :?



Wait I was thinking of Spider Man 3 not pirates. :P

Uh...Spiderman 3 was very successful, exactly what any movie company wants. Your original point fails, as Spidey 3 was a good film, It may not have bested the original, but it wasn't a failure.

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#17 Always-Honest
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you are wrong. lol at "fanboys" who are missing out. lol
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#18 taker42
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That reminds me, there hasn't been much news in the way of trailers and stuff for this game, has there? And it's been confirmed to be released this year?

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#19 taker42
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Uh...Spiderman 3 was very successful, exactly what any movie company wants. Your original point fails, as Spidey 3 was a good film, It may not have bested the original, but it wasn't a failure.

SolidTy
Who gives a damn what the company wants? :? I, as a fan, felt that the Spidey 3 was a huge disappointment and I'm sure others do as well.
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#20 i_Pwn_TheVuhJay
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your just fueling the hype by making this thread.....besides the game looks like its gonna be great.....and im most definitly hype for it too

lol@ people who care what game a person does/doesn't like

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#21 Norule04
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="shsonline"]In other words, games that had a pretty interesting principle and some intriguing possibilities but then fell flat on their face. And unfortunately these games all had sequels, kinda like Killzone. But as we learned...sequels to original games that flopped that had promise doesn't mean that the franchise will be successful the second time around.

LOL @ those who hype Killzone 2
killadread

...but we also know that just because a prior game sucked, doesn't mean the sequel will.

People are hyped for Killzone 2 based on the gameplay footage, not based on the Killzone brand name.

That's the one thing xbox360 fanboys don't want to admit, and its the main reason for damage control threads like this.

Here's a better question: why are xbox360 fans so worried about killzone 2's status, presteege and hype, saying it's a trash franchise, when they turn right around and hype a trash sequel like Fable 2 (the first game was 7 hrs long and the sequel is said to be a wopping 8 ) and the worse gameplay mechanics I've seen in a game in years Too Human to no limit?

Killzone = 6.9

fable = 8.6

At least try to create a good question, so i'd have more challenge answering it.

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#22 leviathan91
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You know, Killzone wasn't all that bad. :? I wonder if people on these boards even know the development of Killzone 1 and how Guirrilla(sp?) struggled.

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#23 thrones
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Yeah, Killzone 1 was an all right game with decent enough online. At least to someone who never experienced XBL :P

Also, I'm hyping it based on the gameplay videos. Looks cool, and it doesn't seem to be trying something risky *cough* Lair. *cough*

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#24 NinjaMunkey01
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You know, Killzone wasn't all that bad. :? I wonder if people on these boards even know the development of Killzone 1 and how Guirrilla(sp?) struggled.

leviathan91

apparently the game was good, it was graphically great and the gameplay was nice, but it was buggy. Something about Guirrilla not knowing the ps2 well having developed for the PC.

the psp one was great though and the gameplay vidoes of this do look nice.

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#25 thrones
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

You know, Killzone wasn't all that bad. :? I wonder if people on these boards even know the development of Killzone 1 and how Guirrilla(sp?) struggled.

NinjaMunkey01

apparently the game was good, it was graphically great and the gameplay was nice, but it was buggy. Something about Guirrilla not knowing the ps2 well having developed for the PC.

the psp one was great though and the gameplay vidoes of this do look nice.

It was pretty buggy, the main flaw with the central gameplay was that hit detection was rather off at times (you know, like snipers in CoD4 :|) making anyone sniping in MP useless :P

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#26 Lonelynight
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Brute Force, KillSwitch, Advent Rising...

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Advent Rising was good