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#1 Justinge3
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They paid 15 bucks for the game. They want to feel good about their purchase, and will defend that even though deep down they know that they were ripped off. Don't become one of them, and wait for a deal to buy the game. If you buy it now, it will encourage microsoft to make $15 the standard price on Arcade games. Don't support it. It hurts us in the long run.

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#2 mystervj
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$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.
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#3 NielsNL
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SW wouldn't be what it is today without people defending their purchase.

Having said that, I fully agree with TC. 15 bucks for threehours of game is too much. The game does look interesting though and I'll buy it once it drops in price.

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#4 Vinegar_Strokes
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the games £10 which is nothing. i spend that on a round of drink in the pub or on crap magazines in a month. so don't try and make out that it cost a fortune because it just does not. ive spent £40 on games that have lasted 6-8 hours. limbo is £10 for about 4 hours of QUALITY entertainment.

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#5 Karnage108
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$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.mystervj
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.
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#6 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.Karnage108
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

:lol:

Comparing Limbo to Uncharted now.. Gotta love lemmings.

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[QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.Karnage108
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Hahaha, good one. The sad point is that it is true...
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#8 1kryptic
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.NielsNL

Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

:lol:

Comparing Limbo to Uncharted now.. Gotta love lemmings.

It has nothing to do with lemmings. He's right.

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#9 1kryptic
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And Limbo scored higher than Uncharted btw.

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#10 ActicEdge
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Anyone who is in gaming for the number of hours will have a huge problem. Anyone who is in it for the experience will be annoyed but not make a huge deal out of it. Guess its clear where some of you guys put value in your games. Cool, stop acting like those who don't share your sense of value are stupid.

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#11 Locutus_Picard
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.Karnage108
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Yo man, word on the streets is that Uncharted 2 got Greatest Hits/Platinum -50% discount.
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#12 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.Karnage108
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Uncharted is 12 hours with MP, I'd def buy Limbo if it was on PSN. Edit: Oh the first Uncharted, I didn't buy it.

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#13 Karnage108
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.NielsNL

Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

:lol:

Comparing Limbo to Uncharted now.. Gotta love lemmings.

Different genres, but how does that change the amount of time you spent on the game? If you want to tell me you don't think platformers are worth it, then you could say that I guess.
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#14 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.mystervj
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Uncharted is 12 hours with MP, I'd def buy Limbo if it was on PSN.

thats uncharted 2. uncharted had no multiplayer and was about 8 hours
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#15 Karnage108
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.mystervj
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Uncharted is 12 hours with MP, I'd def buy Limbo if it was on PSN.

I was actually talking about the first one. Even then that's not a huge difference aside from the MP which some might not care about.
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#16 NielsNL
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Different genres, but how does that change the amount of time you spent on the game? If you want to tell me you don't think platformers are worth it, then you could say that I guess.Karnage108

How 'bout different standards? An XBLA game =/= a full game. And the first Uncharted takes more like 10 hours on a normal playthrough. Plus you can replay it on higher difficulty. AllYou can'twith Limbo.

But fair enough, it wasn't the longest game. Still Uncharted is so much better than Limbo that comparing it isn't even funny anymore.

15 for a simple 3 hour long2D platformer that has basically no replay value is steep, there's no denying it.

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#17 Funconsole
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.NielsNL

Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

:lol:

Comparing Limbo to Uncharted now.. Gotta love lemmings.

Well technically, with Limbo you pay $5/hour while with Uncharted you pay $7.50/hour so he does have a point :|
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#18 mystervj
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="Karnage108"] Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Uncharted is 12 hours with MP, I'd def buy Limbo if it was on PSN.

thats uncharted 2. uncharted had no multiplayer and was about 8 hours

Yeah I edited my post just a minute b4 u posted this :P $60 for Uncharted 1 is pretty steep too I guess, most people who bought it didn't pay the full price for it anyways.
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#19 Justinge3
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Come on, the $5 sonic games on XBLA have more content AND Replay Value than Limbo.
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#20 Vinegar_Strokes
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Come on, the $5 sonic games on XBLA have more content AND Replay Value than Limbo. Justinge3
just play that instead then. don't buy limbo if you don't think its worth it.
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#21 1kryptic
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Come on, the $5 sonic games on XBLA have more content AND Replay Value than Limbo. Justinge3

Then don't buy it, damn.

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#22 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"] Different genres, but how does that change the amount of time you spent on the game? If you want to tell me you don't think platformers are worth it, then you could say that I guess.NielsNL

How 'bout different standards? An XBLA game =/= a full game. And the first Uncharted takes more like 10 hours on a normal playthrough. Plus you can replay it on higher difficulty. AllYou can'twith Limbo.

But fair enough, it wasn't the longest game. Still Uncharted is so much better than Limbo that comparing it isn't even funny anymore.

15 for a simple 3 hour long2D platformer that has basically no replay value is steep, there's no denying it.

Not really, there are somethings you simply have to experience to get it. I don't know why SW is so whorish about dollar to playtime value but if some of yall are to damn cheap to pay $15 for a downloadable game because that's "expensive" I don't know what to say. $15 is not expensive at all.

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#23 1kryptic
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"] Different genres, but how does that change the amount of time you spent on the game? If you want to tell me you don't think platformers are worth it, then you could say that I guess.ActicEdge

How 'bout different standards? An XBLA game =/= a full game. And the first Uncharted takes more like 10 hours on a normal playthrough. Plus you can replay it on higher difficulty. AllYou can'twith Limbo.

But fair enough, it wasn't the longest game. Still Uncharted is so much better than Limbo that comparing it isn't even funny anymore.

15 for a simple 3 hour long2D platformer that has basically no replay value is steep, there's no denying it.

Not really, there are somethings you simply have to experience to get it. I don't know why SW is so whorish about dollar to playtime value but if some of yall are to damn cheap to pay $15 for a downloadable game because that's "expensive" I don't know what to say. $15 is not expensive at all.

Exactly. These are the same people that will pay $60 for an 8 hour game that are complaining.

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#24 TacticalDesire
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This is far from the first Arcade game to be 1200 MS points. Also your topic shifts from the logic behind defending the pricing and then discouraging people to buy it. Btw I heard Limbo was about 4-5 hrs with decent re-playability. Compare that to an 8 hr game which is 2x long but costs 4x as much as a $15 dollar game. Limbo really isn't as bad a deal as you think. Even if it is 3 hrs long its $5 an hr of entertainment which is half as much as a DVD which costs $20 for 2 hrs of entertainment.

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#25 ActicEdge
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Come on, the $5 sonic games on XBLA have more content AND Replay Value than Limbo. Justinge3

They are also like the 15 re release of games that we played 15 years ago and are inferior in all technical merit to Limbo. I have no problem paying $5 for Sonic (because I love Sonic) but don't get carried away here.

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#26 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

How 'bout different standards? An XBLA game =/= a full game. And the first Uncharted takes more like 10 hours on a normal playthrough. Plus you can replay it on higher difficulty. AllYou can'twith Limbo.

But fair enough, it wasn't the longest game. Still Uncharted is so much better than Limbo that comparing it isn't even funny anymore.

15 for a simple 3 hour long2D platformer that has basically no replay value is steep, there's no denying it.

1kryptic

Not really, there are somethings you simply have to experience to get it. I don't know why SW is so whorish about dollar to playtime value but if some of yall are to damn cheap to pay $15 for a downloadable game because that's "expensive" I don't know what to say. $15 is not expensive at all.

Exactly. These are the same people that will pay $60 for an 8 hour game that are complaining.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I guess they don't buy movie tickets which cost $10 for one person to enjoy 2 hrs.

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#27 NielsNL
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Not really, there are somethings you simply have to experience to get it. I don't know why SW is so whorish about dollar to playtime value but if some of yall are to damn cheap to pay $15 for a downloadable game because that's "expensive" I don't know what to say. $15 is not expensive at all.

ActicEdge

Yes it is. And the more people disagree, the more MS will charge for its games (and not just MS of course).

I can buy half year old full agmes for 15 bucks. I'd rathr spend my money on them.

Again, Limbo looks awesome and I'll get it eventually. But success for overpriced products will only lead to more overpriced products. I thought the success of DLC made that clear already.

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#28 GreySeal9
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Anyone who is in gaming for the number of hours will have a huge problem. Anyone who is in it for the experience will be annoyed but not make a huge deal out of it. Guess its clear where some of you guys put value in your games. Cool, stop acting like those who don't share your sense of value are stupid.

ActicEdge

This is all that needed to be said.

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#29 Justinge3
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Castle Crashers, lasts longer, has more content AND replay value. Many different modes and 4 player co op. Both are $15! Compared to Limbo, which has Barely any replay value.
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#30 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.Karnage108
Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Or GOW3 which is standing right now as frontrunner for 2010s worst value in gaming.

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[QUOTE="Karnage108"] Different genres, but how does that change the amount of time you spent on the game? If you want to tell me you don't think platformers are worth it, then you could say that I guess.NielsNL

How 'bout different standards? An XBLA game =/= a full game. And the first Uncharted takes more like 10 hours on a normal playthrough. Plus you can replay it on higher difficulty. AllYou can'twith Limbo.

But fair enough, it wasn't the longest game. Still Uncharted is so much better than Limbo that comparing it isn't even funny anymore.

15 for a simple 3 hour long2D platformer that has basically no replay value is steep, there's no denying it.

Did you even play Limbo? If not, how are you qualified to make this determination.

And how is your mere opinion on which one's better at all relevant?

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Absurd, even.
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[QUOTE="Justinge3"]Castle Crashers, lasts longer, has more content AND replay value. Many different modes and 4 player co op. Both are $15! Compared to Limbo, which has Barely any replay value.

buy that instead then. if you don't think limbo is worth it don't buy it
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"] Different genres, but how does that change the amount of time you spent on the game? If you want to tell me you don't think platformers are worth it, then you could say that I guess.GreySeal9

How 'bout different standards? An XBLA game =/= a full game. And the first Uncharted takes more like 10 hours on a normal playthrough. Plus you can replay it on higher difficulty. AllYou can'twith Limbo.

But fair enough, it wasn't the longest game. Still Uncharted is so much better than Limbo that comparing it isn't even funny anymore.

15 for a simple 3 hour long2D platformer that has basically no replay value is steep, there's no denying it.

Did you even play Limbo? If not, how are you qualified to make this determination.

And how is your mere opinion on which one's better at all relevant?

The funny part is that Limbo scored higher.

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#35 Vaasman
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Castle Crashers, lasts longer, has more content AND replay value. Many different modes and 4 player co op. Both are $15! Compared to Limbo, which has Barely any replay value.Justinge3
So don't but it then. You'll miss a great experience just because you whined about the price. Not my problem.

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#36 Justinge3
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[QUOTE="Justinge3"]Castle Crashers, lasts longer, has more content AND replay value. Many different modes and 4 player co op. Both are $15! Compared to Limbo, which has Barely any replay value.Vinegar_Strokes
buy that instead then. if you don't think limbo is worth it don't buy it

I obviously already have it. Just pointing out how unfair the $15 is for Limbo.
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#37 mystervj
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="mystervj"]$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.TacticalDesire

Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.

Or GOW3 which is standing right now as frontrunner for 2010s worst value in gaming.

No, Alan Wake is.
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#38 AAllxxjjnn
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It's not even about actual gameplay anymore, people just want a ton of meaningless tacked on features.
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#39 svaubel
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$15 for a 3 hour game is a bit steep.mystervj

Rocket Knight was $15 for about 2 hours of playtime, though it has replay value. Thus I didnt feel my money was wasted.

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#40 MUSH_IS_PWNs
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Id rather see people buy Limbo than a MW2 map pack.
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#41 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Not really, there are somethings you simply have to experience to get it. I don't know why SW is so whorish about dollar to playtime value but if some of yall are to damn cheap to pay $15 for a downloadable game because that's "expensive" I don't know what to say. $15 is not expensive at all.

NielsNL

Yes it is. And the more people disagree, the more MS will charge for its games (and not just MS of course).

I can buy half year old full agmes for 15 bucks. I'd rathr spend my money on them.

Again, Limbo looks awesome and I'll get it eventually. But success for overpriced products will only lead to more overpriced products. I thought the success of DLC made that clear already.

If people are willing to pay it obviously means the majority doesn't have a problem and you are in the minority (AKA, were not paying too much, you're just being stingy)

So essentially you being "money conscious" is relevant why? Why does what you would do matter? No one cares about your values when they buy there own games?

I have no problem paying $15 for a 3 hour experienceI am thoroughly going to enjoy. This isn't clothes or food here, we're talking about entertainment and $15 for a unique experience I am not going to find anywhere else is not over priced to me. Maybe we aren't the ones with the problem. Perhaps its you.

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#42 1kryptic
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"] Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.mystervj

Or GOW3 which is standing right now as frontrunner for 2010s worst value in gaming.

No, Alan Wake is.

No, they're about the same in length(god of war 3 and alan wake)

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#43 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"] Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.mystervj

Or GOW3 which is standing right now as frontrunner for 2010s worst value in gaming.

No, Alan Wake is.

Alan Wake is a bit longer I think and has a bit more replayability from my understanding.

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[QUOTE="Justinge3"]Castle Crashers, lasts longer, has more content AND replay value. Many different modes and 4 player co op. Both are $15! Compared to Limbo, which has Barely any replay value.

Well after buying and beating Limbo, I think it is worth $15.
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#45 NielsNL
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Did you even play Limbo? If not, how are you qualified to make this determination.

And how is your mere opinion on which one's better at all relevant?

GreySeal9

Becasue to mea full game with high production values is better thana downloadable indy game by definition. Matter of preference of course, but I'm sure there are many who'd agree. Just, different standards.

How is my opinion irrelevant? Because there are more people that disagree than agree with me in this thread? That doesn't devaluate my opinion in any way if you ask me.

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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"] Yet you probably paid $60 for the 8 hour Uncharted.mystervj

Or GOW3 which is standing right now as frontrunner for 2010s worst value in gaming.

No, Alan Wake is.

think heavenly sword still holds the record
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#47 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="Justinge3"]Castle Crashers, lasts longer, has more content AND replay value. Many different modes and 4 player co op. Both are $15! Compared to Limbo, which has Barely any replay value.Justinge3
buy that instead then. if you don't think limbo is worth it don't buy it

I obviously already have it. Just pointing out how unfair the $15 is for Limbo.

I don't undertstand why you refer to Limbo purchasers as "they" in your opening post, if you yourself have it...wouldn't it also have made more sense to describe how you felt ripped of and etc rather than making loose and vague accusations of other peoples feelings. If I had to bet I'd say you don't have Limbo.

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#48 1kryptic
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Did you even play Limbo? If not, how are you qualified to make this determination.

And how is your mere opinion on which one's better at all relevant?

NielsNL

Becasue to mea full game with high production values is better thana downloadable indy game by definition. Matter of preference of course, but I'm sure there are many who'd agree. Just, different standards.

How is my opinion irrelevant? Because there are more people that disagree than agree with me in this thread? That doesn't devaluate my opinion in any way if you ask me.

You're opinion is irrelevant unless you played them both.

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#49 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Did you even play Limbo? If not, how are you qualified to make this determination.

And how is your mere opinion on which one's better at all relevant?

NielsNL

Becasue to mea full game with high production values is better thana downloadable indy game by definition. Matter of preference of course, but I'm sure there are many who'd agree. Just, different standards.

How is my opinion irrelevant? Because there are more people that disagree than agree with me in this thread? That doesn't devaluate my opinion in any way if you ask me.

no, but not having played the game does
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#50 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Not really, there are somethings you simply have to experience to get it. I don't know why SW is so whorish about dollar to playtime value but if some of yall are to damn cheap to pay $15 for a downloadable game because that's "expensive" I don't know what to say. $15 is not expensive at all.

ActicEdge

Yes it is. And the more people disagree, the more MS will charge for its games (and not just MS of course).

I can buy half year old full agmes for 15 bucks. I'd rathr spend my money on them.

Again, Limbo looks awesome and I'll get it eventually. But success for overpriced products will only lead to more overpriced products. I thought the success of DLC made that clear already.

If people are willing to pay it obviously means the majority doesn't have a problem and you are in the minority (AKA, were not paying too much, you're just being stingy)

So essentially you being "money conscious" is relevant why? Why does what you would do matter? No one cares about your values when they buy there own games?

I have no problem paying $15 for a 3 hour experienceI am thoroughly going to enjoy. This isn't clothes or food here, we're talking about entertainment and $15 for a unique experience I am not going to find anywhere else is not over priced to me. Maybe we aren't the ones with the problem. Perhaps its you.

I agree with you in so many ways.

I'd go as far as to say if somebody complains about giving the developer a measly 15 bucks (and that doesn't even all go to the developer) for a very good and unique game, I'd say that easily constitutes stinginess and that kind of stinginess ignores all the hard work that the developer put into the game.