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#1 -Reggaeton-
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Ps3: White Knight Chronicles 1080p 60fps native.
Free online with co-op and fully customisable characters.

vs.

Xbox 360: Star Ocean 900x510 30fps native, none of the above.

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#2 0bscurity
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WKC sounds awesome. I'll definitely be picking it up when it comes out. Level 5 makes awesome RPG's.
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#3 Chutebox
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Well, just gotta hope we even get WKC...
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#4 foxhound_fox
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And how many more good JRPG's has the 360 been getting?
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#5 LibertySaint
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um its not 1080p native and not at 60fps, last i read its like any other game 720p 30fps....stop with your lies fanboy. In terms of jrpgs they are really equal depending on preferences.
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#6 adman66
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you got it all wrong, the main diffence is that xbox has more then one, and the only ps3 one is only japan atm
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Last time I heard this techie leet speak from the cows, they were singing the praises of a glorified demo (GT5: Prologue) and an Xbox port (Ninja Gaiden Sigma). It's like we've come full circle and now we're back at the place be began. Btw, lets see some proof of this thing being native 1080p.

Also, you should know better than to use a poor screen to try to prove your point, friend.

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See, I can do the same thing.

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#9 Chutebox
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um its not 1080p native and not at 60fps, last i read its like any other game 720p 30fps....stop with your lies fanboy. In terms of jrpgs they are really equal depending on preferences.LibertySaint

Last we heard from the developers it is actually native 1080p and 60fps. Unless you have a link proving different I'd say you should stop.

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#10 LibertySaint
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u provide a link saying its a 1080p 60fps, your the one claiming its better then everything else.
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#11 -Reggaeton-
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And how many more good JRPG's has the 360 been getting?foxhound_fox
All of those have failed and havent met the hype. The only game that actually was good is Blue Dragon, but it had its problems. LO, Lame and dry and a boring attempt to do FF all over again. Basically comparing FF and LO is like comparing GTA and Saints Row. Last Remnant was technically a nightmare and the battles where frustrating at times. ToV was also a technical disaster and basically a remake. So what are the games (jrpgs) you meant?
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#12 Chutebox
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u provide a link saying its a 1080p 60fps, your the one claiming its better then everything else.LibertySaint
Huh, I never said such thing. But they did say it runs at that resolution and fps. I don't look up links for people, you're more than capable (assuming).
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#13 foxhound_fox
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All of those have failed and havent met the hype. The only game that actually was good is Blue Dragon, but it had its problems. LO, Lame and dry and a boring attempt to do FF all over again. Basically comparing FF and LO is like comparing GTA and Saints Row. Last Remnant was technically a nightmare and the battles where frustrating at times. ToV was also a technical disaster and basically a remake. So what are the games (jrpgs) you meant?-Reggaeton-

Hype shmype. 360 is still getting more decent and good JRPG's than the PS3... the successor to the JRPG emperor.
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]u provide a link saying its a 1080p 60fps, your the one claiming its better then everything else.Chutebox
Huh, I never said such thing. But they did say it runs at that resolution and fps. I don't look up links for people, you're more than capable (assuming).

the TC did and your supporting that. You don't assume its better then the rest if they haven't said, by default its 720p 30fps like i said unless the devs say, so provide a link and stop straying from doing it.
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#15 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And how many more good JRPG's has the 360 been getting?-Reggaeton-
All of those have failed and havent met the hype. The only game that actually was good is Blue Dragon, but it had its problems. LO, Lame and dry and a boring attempt to do FF all over again. Basically comparing FF and LO is like comparing GTA and Saints Row. Last Remnant was technically a nightmare and the battles where frustrating at times. ToV was also a technical disaster and basically a remake. So what are the games (jrpgs) you meant?

so you've played them eh?
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]u provide a link saying its a 1080p 60fps, your the one claiming its better then everything else.LibertySaint
Huh, I never said such thing. But they did say it runs at that resolution and fps. I don't look up links for people, you're more than capable (assuming).

the TC did and your supporting that. You don't assume its better then the rest if they haven't said, by default its 720p 30fps like i said unless the devs say, so provide a link and stop straying from doing it.

According to them (the devs), it runs at native 1080p/60fps. Not going to run in circles about this... Do you have a link that it runs at 720p/30fps?

And I'm not referring to any game being better than another, just the resolution and fps.

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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Huh, I never said such thing. But they did say it runs at that resolution and fps. I don't look up links for people, you're more than capable (assuming).Chutebox

the TC did and your supporting that. You don't assume its better then the rest if they haven't said, by default its 720p 30fps like i said unless the devs say, so provide a link and stop straying from doing it.

According to them (the devs), it runs at native 1080p/60fps. Not going to run in circles about this... Do you have a link that it runs at 720p/30fps?

And I'm not referring to any game being better than another, just the resolution and fps.

Link me the evidence and stop straying, unless their is evidence of it being at 1080p 60 fps i'll glady take back my default thoughts.

I'm just taking what the tc said with a grain of salt because i have never read or watched anything of the sort. Fanboy usually always make things up with out evidence just their wishes.

edit: i'm was speaking technically better. Running in 1080p at 60fps is a feat on any console game thats not a sports game.

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#18 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]All of those have failed and havent met the hype. The only game that actually was good is Blue Dragon, but it had its problems. LO, Lame and dry and a boring attempt to do FF all over again. Basically comparing FF and LO is like comparing GTA and Saints Row. Last Remnant was technically a nightmare and the battles where frustrating at times. ToV was also a technical disaster and basically a remake. So what are the games (jrpgs) you meant?foxhound_fox

Hype shmype. 360 is still getting more decent and good JRPG's than the PS3... the successor to the JRPG emperor.

So in your opinion quantity -> quality. Shouldent you be defending the Nintendo Wii?

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#19 Malta_1980
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Pesonally i hope both WKC & SO4 end up being great Rpgs... surely plan to get both later on this year... right now am too busy playing other games and shortly will get SFIV, KZ2 & then RE5... so dont have time to sit down and focus on 2 rpgs atm :)

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#20 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"] the TC did and your supporting that. You don't assume its better then the rest if they haven't said, by default its 720p 30fps like i said unless the devs say, so provide a link and stop straying from doing it.LibertySaint

According to them (the devs), it runs at native 1080p/60fps. Not going to run in circles about this... Do you have a link that it runs at 720p/30fps?

And I'm not referring to any game being better than another, just the resolution and fps.

Link me the evidence and stop straying, unless their is evidence of it being at 1080p 60 fps i'll glady take back my default thoughts.

I'm just taking what the tc said with a grain of salt because i have never read or watched anything of the sort. Fanboy usually always make things up with out evidence just their wishes.

edit: i'm was speaking technically better. Running in 1080p at 60fps is a feat on any console game thats not a sports game.

So I need to show you a link confirming what I'm saying but you don't need to do the same? I'll pass.
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#21 ocinom
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Star Ocean Looks better than What? Knight chronicles
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#22 foxhound_fox
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So in your opinion quantity -> quality. Shouldent you be defending the Nintendo Wii?-Reggaeton-

Actually, according to my claim:

quality + quantity >>> quality >>> quantity

All the 360's major JRPG releases have been good. Just because something doesn't score a 9.0 out of 10 doesn't make it bad. It seems that Sony fans seem to have a problem understanding that this generation.
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#23 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] According to them (the devs), it runs at native 1080p/60fps. Not going to run in circles about this... Do you have a link that it runs at 720p/30fps?

And I'm not referring to any game being better than another, just the resolution and fps.

Chutebox

Link me the evidence and stop straying, unless their is evidence of it being at 1080p 60 fps i'll glady take back my default thoughts.

I'm just taking what the tc said with a grain of salt because i have never read or watched anything of the sort. Fanboy usually always make things up with out evidence just their wishes.

edit: i'm was speaking technically better. Running in 1080p at 60fps is a feat on any console game thats not a sports game.

So I need to show you a link confirming what I'm saying but you don't need to do the same? I'll pass.

You don't understand the whole situation.

By default a game will be 720p 30fps on a console. Unless its better or worse it needs to be proven.

You are saying it is better so prove it.

I'm saying its the default because i have never came across anything over my hours of internet surfing a week saying it is a 1080p native 60fps game. So you are officially straying from saying its a 1080p, 60 fps, thats fine, that just means their is no evidence you can bring forth for us. I'm not trying to bug you, i'm just critical on this because fanboys make things up all the time so i need evidence to praise a game for something or boo it for another.

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#24 kozzy1234
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Lost Odyssey, Last Remnant and Tales Of Vesperia are all better then any jrpg on the ps3 imo.

I loved the jrpgs on the ps1 and ps2, but the ps3 has been a dissapointment for jrpgs imo.

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#25 -Reggaeton-
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Just because something doesn't score a 9.0 out of 10 doesn't make it bad. .foxhound_fox
Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).
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#26 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Just because something doesn't score a 9.0 out of 10 doesn't make it bad. .-Reggaeton-
Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).

flop doesn't mean a bad game, its means game that didn't meet the hypes score according to SW. Flop just sounds bad but in reality has little negativity other then it didn't score its best, it just scored well. A bad game is something like lair or hour of victory which scored horribly and was overall horrible to even try to enjoy.
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#27 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"] Link me the evidence and stop straying, unless their is evidence of it being at 1080p 60 fps i'll glady take back my default thoughts.

I'm just taking what the tc said with a grain of salt because i have never read or watched anything of the sort. Fanboy usually always make things up with out evidence just their wishes.

edit: i'm was speaking technically better. Running in 1080p at 60fps is a feat on any console game thats not a sports game.

LibertySaint

So I need to show you a link confirming what I'm saying but you don't need to do the same? I'll pass.

You don't understand the whole situation.

By default a game will be 720p 30fps on a console. Unless its better or worse it needs to be proven.

You are saying it is better so prove it.

I'm saying its the default because i have never came across anything over my hours of internet surfing a week saying it is a 1080p native 60fps game. So you are officially straying from saying its a 1080p, 60 fps, thats fine, that just means their is no evidence you can bring forth for us. I'm not trying to bug you, i'm just critical on this because fanboys make things up all the time so i need evidence to praise a game for something or boo it for another.

How is that default when they're are plenty of games with less resolution and fps? Makes zero sense.

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#28 HAZE-Unit
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Wow, thats a major difference in graphics, that means SO4 will miss two characters and quarter of the story!!

on a serious note, you know what I didn't like about WKC? the fact they changed the combat for their online MMO needs, the gameplay is great but I wanted what I saw in tgs 06.

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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] So I need to show you a link confirming what I'm saying but you don't need to do the same? I'll pass.Chutebox

You don't understand the whole situation.

By default a game will be 720p 30fps on a console. Unless its better or worse it needs to be proven.

You are saying it is better so prove it.

I'm saying its the default because i have never came across anything over my hours of internet surfing a week saying it is a 1080p native 60fps game. So you are officially straying from saying its a 1080p, 60 fps, thats fine, that just means their is no evidence you can bring forth for us. I'm not trying to bug you, i'm just critical on this because fanboys make things up all the time so i need evidence to praise a game for something or boo it for another.

How is that default when they're are plenty of games with less resolution and fps? Makes zero sense.

Again you don't understand.

By default without knowledge on a game specifics you must assume it is a 720p 30fps game because that is the average game for consoles and what is aimed for most of the time. So that means unless it is better or worse it needs to be proven.

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#30 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Just because something doesn't score a 9.0 out of 10 doesn't make it bad. .-Reggaeton-
Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).

What? None of the JRPGs have been hyped AAA
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#31 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Just because something doesn't score a 9.0 out of 10 doesn't make it bad. .LibertySaint
Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).

flop doesn't mean a bad game, its means game that didn't meet the hypes score according to SW. Flop just sounds bad but in reality has little negativity other then it didn't score its best, it just scored well. A bad game is something like lair or hour of victory which scored horribly and was overall horrible to even try to enjoy.

You fail to see the point. In SW Flop = Bad game. Logic does not apply here, only fanboy logic. And its impossible to argue online and actually prove a point/your opinion.
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#32 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"] Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).-Reggaeton-
flop doesn't mean a bad game, its means game that didn't meet the hypes score according to SW. Flop just sounds bad but in reality has little negativity other then it didn't score its best, it just scored well. A bad game is something like lair or hour of victory which scored horribly and was overall horrible to even try to enjoy.

You fail to see the point. In SW Flop = Bad game. Logic does not apply here, only fanboy logic. And its impossible to argue online and actually prove a point/your opinion.

haha, otay :)
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Just because something doesn't score a 9.0 out of 10 doesn't make it bad. .Chutebox
Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).

What? None of the JRPGs have been hyped AAA

Really? :S Im sure they where.
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#34 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

You don't understand the whole situation.

By default a game will be 720p 30fps on a console. Unless its better or worse it needs to be proven.

You are saying it is better so prove it.

I'm saying its the default because i have never came across anything over my hours of internet surfing a week saying it is a 1080p native 60fps game. So you are officially straying from saying its a 1080p, 60 fps, thats fine, that just means their is no evidence you can bring forth for us. I'm not trying to bug you, i'm just critical on this because fanboys make things up all the time so i need evidence to praise a game for something or boo it for another.

LibertySaint

How is that default when they're are plenty of games with less resolution and fps? Makes zero sense.

Again you don't understand.

By default without knowledge on a game specifics you must assume it is a 720p 30fps game because that is the average game for consoles and what is aimed for most of the time. So that means unless it is better or worse it needs to be proven.

You're not understanding because it isn't the average.

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#35 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

How is that default when they're are plenty of games with less resolution and fps? Makes zero sense.

Chutebox

Again you don't understand.

By default without knowledge on a game specifics you must assume it is a 720p 30fps game because that is the average game for consoles and what is aimed for most of the time. So that means unless it is better or worse it needs to be proven.

You're not understanding because it isn't the average.

hehe.....okay :)
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#36 foxhound_fox
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Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).-Reggaeton-

I've probably been in SW longer than you have and a flop doesn't make a game bad... it just means it didn't meet hype.

And I don't remember a single occasion where any of the 360's JRPG's aside from Blue Dragon were hyped anything higher than AA.
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#37 obamanian
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Lovely, someone uses a cell phone picture from SO4 to compare to native picture of WKC

Here is more

 [IMG]http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7599/new5al9.jpg[/IMG
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#38 Gxgear
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Does Valkyria Chronicles count as a JRPG?

Anyways both Star Ocean and White Knight Chronicles looks really good, wish both can be ported to the other console eventually. PersonallyI have my fingers crossedfor SO4 to come to the PS3 like Eternal Sonata.

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#39 jonnyt61
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]So in your opinion quantity -> quality. Shouldent you be defending the Nintendo Wii?foxhound_fox

Actually, according to my claim:

quality + quantity >>> quality >>> quantity

All the 360's major JRPG releases have been good. Just because something doesn't score a 9.0 out of 10 doesn't make it bad. It seems that Sony fans seem to have a problem understanding that this generation.

Quality would suggest at least a 7, after all, on GS a 7=Good. I think it's fair to say, anything less than "Good" isn't quality. Most of them scored less then that, I believe. 360 wins on Quantity, but quality... It's kind of up for debate. It's basically, as it stands, VC and Disgaea 3 vs Lost Odyssey and ToV. For quality. According to GS, they're an "even match"

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#40 Chutebox
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http://www.deeko.com/news/?p=9777

There ya go.

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#41 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"] Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).-Reggaeton-
What? None of the JRPGs have been hyped AAA

Really? :S Im sure they where.

AA at the most.
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#42 LibertySaint
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http://www.deeko.com/news/?p=9777

There ya go.

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wow cool, nice find.
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#43 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

http://www.deeko.com/news/?p=9777

There ya go.

LibertySaint
wow cool, nice find.

If it REALLY is I don't know though lol. But I don't make **** up, I have better things to do lol.
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#44 hakanakumono
Member since 2008 • 27455 Posts

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"] Welcome to SW. If the game does not meet hype its a FLOP. So far all the games have been hyped as atleast AAA (except LR).-Reggaeton-
flop doesn't mean a bad game, its means game that didn't meet the hypes score according to SW. Flop just sounds bad but in reality has little negativity other then it didn't score its best, it just scored well. A bad game is something like lair or hour of victory which scored horribly and was overall horrible to even try to enjoy.

You fail to see the point. In SW Flop = Bad game. Logic does not apply here, only fanboy logic. And its impossible to argue online and actually prove a point/your opinion.

Only to people who choose to see it that way.

But thats ridiculous. In that case, when we compare libraries, its not based on anything at all.

Logic can apply here if you apply it here. You're just refusing to use logic, because its not convinient in this argument. There's no use in basing the merit of a library on our gambles.

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#46 UGCoat
Member since 2009 • 236 Posts
I wasted more time playing Valkyria Chronicles and Disgaea 3 combined then all of Xbox 360's jrpgs. I own all of them except for Blue Dragon, I almost finished Infinite Undiscovery. So far, PS3's few jrpgs are much better then 360's majority. I'm still waiting on WKC, and SO4
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#47 hoplayletsplay
Member since 2005 • 983 Posts
The only difference I see betweem WKC and SO4 is the main characters' hair colour.
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#48 McdonaIdsGuy
Member since 2008 • 3046 Posts
Xbox 360: Star Ocean 900x510 30fps native.-Reggaeton-
Hmm thats not the hardware problem is the developer choice and the game is native 1248 x 702 only in battle is downscaled then upscaled,inform yourself next time.
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#49 dream431ca
Member since 2003 • 10165 Posts
All one has to do is look at the poor programming of Last Remnant, and people say the 360 is easy to develop for, then why does the Last Remnant run so poorly? And don't say developer because it's Square Enix.