The MMORPG Battle: World of Warcraft vs. Guild Wars

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#1 Killer_Wuggles
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Well, there are two great MMORPGs on the market; World of Warcraft, made by Blizzard (Creators of Warcraft series and Diablo), and Guild Wars, made by NCsoft (creators of City of Heroes). Well, the long-time debate for many hermits is which MMO is better. Well, here are some reasons of debate for each game series:

Price:

World of Warcraft: $30 for the game, plus a $15 monthly fee, with a 10-day free trial. $40 for the expansion pack, Burning Crusade.

Guild Wars: $30 for the game, $40 for the sequel, Factions, and $50 for the other sequel, Nightfall. No monthly fee, no free trial as of yet.

Winner: Guild Wars. It's no question that most players of Guild Wars own the game for its price. While many WoW players argue that the monthly fee in WoW is for updating the game constantly, Guild Wars does the exact same thing... Without a $15 monthly fee.

NOTE: There are three Guild Wars games: Prophecies (First), Factions (Second), and Nightfall (Third). Prophecies is set in a medieval England area known as Tyria, Factions set in an Asian setting known as Cantha, and Nightfall set in a Persian setting known as Elona. All of these titles do NOT require the predecessing games to play. Each are stand-alone games. However, you can use your character from Factions to play on Nightfall or Prophecies, or whatever, if you buy the other two games.

Gameplay: PvE

World of Warcraft: The PvE gameplay is the main focus of WoW; you can literally log tons of hours into this game without stopping. There are vast, seamless worlds to explore, treacherous landscapes, and creepy dungeons to explore. The game never truly ends with a level cap of 70.

Guild Wars: Guild Wars features something WoW doesn't; a real storyline that can be ended. The game's PvE plays a lot like games like KOTOR or Fable, full of quests and cutscenes in each new encounter. However, one the less appealing things about GW is that loading screens run rampant. Whenever you leave a town or enter a new area, a load screen pops up. Thankfully, load times are quite fast. Also, the level cap in GW is only 20, and you cannot form parties out of towns, nor meet other players outside of towns. Also, you can only map 8 skills to your skill bar at a time, forcing a rather annoying strategy element on you every time you fight enemies. Also, you can't JUMP! :(

Winner: World of Warcraft. Jesus, it's impossible to stop playing WoW altogether. It's probably the one game that you never grow tired of, with its infinite quests and possibilites and brilliant gameplay mechanics. Storyline or not, WoW wins in the PvP field.

Gameplay: PvP

World of Warcraft: The main sources of PvP combat in the game are limited to the always-fun task of invading Alliance and Horde territory and killing weaker players, as well as simple arena battles and wars. These can be fun for some time, but the PvP leaves quite a lot to be desired. However, there's a fairly friendly community around to help players complete quests, which is always something nice.

Guild Wars: This is where Guild Wars truly shines; there are lots and lots of ways to enjoy PvP combat in the game, with a total of 4 modes and lots of variety. You can also have the option to create a high-ranked PvP-only character with maxed-out skills and attributes at level 20 from the start. Hence the name, joining a guild is the main part of this game, since engaging in Guild Tournaments and online supremacy are the main factors in GW. There's also a very eager and friendly community in Guild Wars, as well.

Winner: Guild Wars. Playing the PvP in Guild Wars is like playing Halo or Counter-Strike; the gameplay never gets old. There's tons of variety in each game, from the classic CTF matches to the Deathmatch missions. It's obvious that PvP is the central focus of Guild Wars.

Graphics:

World of Warcraft: WoW's graphics sport a very cartoony look and feel. The game looks rather grainy at times, looking like an average PS2 game. However, gameplay is lag-free and not too choppy, running great on older computers.

Guild Wars: GW looks really well-polished with its realistic look and feel. The environments are very beautiful (at least early in the game, SPOILERS FTW), and the character models very detailed.

Winner: Guild Wars. Come on now, see for yourself.

Classes/Races:

World of Warcraft: What I like most about WoW is that there are 8 races total (+2 with Burning Crusade), each with a different look and voice, as well as racial traits. There are also lots of character classes, some you'll find exclusive and available to certain races, others not.

Races: Alliance - Human, Dwarf, Night Elf, Gnome, Dranei (with Burning Crusade): Horde - Orc, Troll, Undead, Tauren, Blood Elf (With Burning Crusade)

Classes: Warrior, Paladin, Rogue, Priest, Shaman, Druid, Hunter, Mage, Warlock.

Guild Wars: There is only one default race to choose from: Human, and while this may seem a dissapointment to many MMORPG fans, it isn't really too important. Each class in the game sports a totally different look and feel (EX: Necromancers look Emo and Goth, whereas Warriors look like Army Guys and Jocks). Each class has its own pros and cons, and my favorite part about the game is that you can choose a primary and secondary profession. This means that you can become a Warrior from the start, then later become a Monk and go from there. It's really cool to see what your choice leads to you.

Classes: (With Prophecies) Warrior, Ranger, Monk, Mesmer, Elementalist, Necromancer.

(With Factions) Same as above, as well as Ritualist and Asassin.

(With Nightfall) Same as above two, as well as Dervish and Paragon.

Winner: Tie. Honestly, it's too hard to decide. Really. It's pretty much a matter of preferencial choice.

 

 

OVERALL WINNER: (Drumroll....)

NOBODY! HA! Yes, there is no winner to this MMORPG battle, but keep in mind that people with a strategy-heavy mind who enjoys PvP should go Guild Wars, and people looking for more action and questing should go with World of Warcraft. I hope I've answered some of your questions. Thank you, and feel free to ask questions or comment on this. :D

Oh, and if you don't think that Guild Wars isn't an MMORPG, answer these questions:

1) Does Guild Wars contain a large, massive world where you can quest with friends?

2) Can you play competitively with other players, and engage in co-op with quests?

3) Can you trade, build your character, and make a totally different experience each time?

4) Does the game require an account and a active internet connection for the whole game experience?

If you answered "Yes" to 3 or more of these questions, Guild Wars is an MMORPG.  Oh, and if you want to hear official word, Guild Wars is tagged on Gamespot as "MMORPG".  Is that enough prove for you? 

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#2 Redmoonxl2
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GW is not a MMO thus WoW wins by default.
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GW is not a MMO thus WoW wins by default.Redmoonxl2
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#4 Killer_Wuggles
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GW is not a MMO thus WoW wins by default.Redmoonxl2

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Why is GW not an MMO!?  LOL!  It's an online RPG, buddy.  It's got players on it.  You can quest with it.  I don't know what you're smoking, but Guild Wars IS MMO. 

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#5 bitemeslippy
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Doesn't this belong in the PC forum as both of these games are on PC?
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#6 Marka1700
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1. Guild wars isnt a propper MMO

2. Guildwards updates are nowhere near the scale of Wow updates (even is wow updates are slowing unblalancing the game everytime)

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#7 MrGrimFandango
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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]GW is not a MMO thus WoW wins by default.Killer_Wuggles

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Why is GW not an MMO!? LOL! It's an online RPG, buddy. It's got players on it. You can quest with it. I don't know what you're smoking, but Guild Wars IS MMO.

 

 

Massive Multiplayer Online RPG, its not Massive by any means. 

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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]GW is not a MMO thus WoW wins by default.Kuniva1181

Exactly.  It's an online rpg, but not massive multiplayer (in other words, a persistant world).  Imo, WOW is a much better game.  GW gets boring REALLY fast. 

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#9 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]GW is not a MMO thus WoW wins by default.Killer_Wuggles

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Why is GW not an MMO!? LOL! It's an online RPG, buddy. It's got players on it. You can quest with it. I don't know what you're smoking, but Guild Wars IS MMO.

MMOs are defined by a persistent world, not a lobby/instance system like PSO. Even Arenanet stated it's not a MMO.

Is Guild Wars an MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game)?

Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game). Guild Wars was designed from the ground up to create the best possible competitive role-playing experience. Success in Guild Wars is always the result of player skill, not time spent playing or the size of one's guild. As characters progress, they acquire a diverse set of skills and items, enabling them to use new strategies in combat. Players can do battle in open arenas or compete in guild-vs-guild warfare or the international tournament. Engaging in combat is always the player's choice, however; there is no player-killing in cooperative areas of the world.

 

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#10 HeyHeyMyMy
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Guild Wars ain't no mmo, so wow wins, though I think there are better mmos than wow.
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#11 LoG-Sacrament
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anything>guild wars. i hated that game so much. id try WoW before i went back to gw.
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#12 Big_Red_Button
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GW newbs need to realise that WoW has WAY better PvE and PvP.

PvP in WoW is 10 times faster paced and takes WAY more skill.

Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about, and probably only played newbie PvP a low levels.

WoW succeeds in ALL aspects of Gameplay. GW has the price and graphical advantage.

FACT'D.

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#13 Sooshy
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I was so surprised by what you said after seeing your avatar.
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#14 evilbarbarian
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I decided upon trying an MMO for the first time, so I picked up GW. Mainly due to the lack of a monthly fee. I hated it, and never got around to playing WoW. Basically, I don't care which is better.
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GW newbs need to realise that WoW has WAY better PvE and PvP.

PvP in WoW is 10 times faster paced and takes WAY more skill.

Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about, and probably only played newbie PvP a low levels.

WoW succeeds in ALL aspects of Gameplay. GW has the price and graphical advantage.

FACT'D.

Big_Red_Button

 

Ive played both and have end gamed in both and GW PvP is superior to WoW. WoW is a good MMO but it doesnt have ALL aspects, not even close.

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GW newbs need to realise that WoW has WAY better PvE and PvP.

PvP in WoW is 10 times faster paced and takes WAY more skill.

Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about, and probably only played newbie PvP a low levels.

WoW succeeds in ALL aspects of Gameplay. GW has the price and graphical advantage.

FACT'D.

Big_Red_Button

Two things that GW has over WoW:

No Grind

No Ebay 

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#17 Power_47
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Fairly well done review. Personally I like the art direction of wow way more then guildwars, and I think the two faction PVP makes one fantastic rivalry on the server (Horde FTW). While wows PVP may certainly have its chinks, if perfected by blizzard it can surpase guild wars. Guild wars may have its advantages but I enjoyed world of warcraft much more and it is the only one I ever play at this time.
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I play Guild Wars, mainly because of the fact that I dont want to shell out 200 dollars a year to play a freakin game online that isnt going to get me anything. I have played WoW's trial and was not interested in it. Guild Wars may be limited in what you can do, but its well worth not having to pay the monthly fees for a game that is every bit as good as WoW. The one thing that bugs me about WoW is there are too many freakin hotkeys and there are so many icons on your screen at once that you cant see your entire environment and be expected to memorize hotkeys. Guild Wars is more single player based whereas WoW leans more towards having parties with human players instead of NPC's (although the Heroes in Nightfall are a lot more intellgent then the bot henchmen are).
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[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

GW newbs need to realise that WoW has WAY better PvE and PvP.

PvP in WoW is 10 times faster paced and takes WAY more skill.

Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about, and probably only played newbie PvP a low levels.

WoW succeeds in ALL aspects of Gameplay. GW has the price and graphical advantage.

FACT'D.

MrGrimFandango

 

Ive played both and have end gamed in both and GW PvP is superior to WoW. WoW is a good MMO but it doesnt have ALL aspects, not even close.

Guild War's flaw as a MMO comes with the convoluted skill/class system that requires you to spend over a hundred a year to remain competitive. Don't have all the expansions even though you are using classes on your version of the game? You're out of luck.

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#20 MastirOfPuppets
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In GW you start off in the first town, run to the next mission, complete the mission, find yourself in next town, run to next mission...and it just goes on like this for the whole game. It was a fun ride wihle it lasted but I would only play through the missions once. On top of that I never find anything good. The best item I found was worth 50-75k gold and I ended up selling it for 60k cause I had no patience to find someone who would buy it for 75k gold. Alliance battles in GW were pretty fun but you didn't really get anything out of it other than some amber/jade that took about 10 victories for your faction to get. Jade/amber was only worth around 600g each anyway, definitely not worth the time of 10 alliance battles. What else could you do with alliance faction? Well you could give it to your Guild. What does that do? Practically nothing, just makes a number bigger for your guild or you could get the title which requires 100k alliance faction donated. I didn't play WoW that much but judging by the 14 day trial I played it seems more diverse and nonlinear compared to GW. Lots of monsters to kill and places to explore and it makes you feel as if you're actually thrown into a new world.
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the funniest part of this post is that this guy tried to say blizzard made doom....lmao thats humorous!
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the funniest part of this post is that this guy tried to say blizzard made doom....lmao thats humorous!bildo2020

Wow, I see that most people seem to think that my post is "stupid" or "pointless".

Well, get one thing straight: Every single person I play Guild Wars with classifies it as an MMO. Is the game vast, sprawling, and huge?  Yes, it is.  Can you level up and team up with friends?  Yes, you can.  Is there a strong PvP element in Guild Wars?  Yes, there most certainly is.

Also, I made a typo on my part.  I meant Diablo, not Doom. Sorry. :P 

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All I have to say is that I have been convinced to give Guild Wars a try. :D

Sounds like my kind of game.
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All I have to say is that I have been convinced to give Guild Wars a try. :D

Sounds like my kind of game.
foxhound_fox

Start off by being a Warrior as your primary proffession and a monk as your secondary.  You'll own in PvP and PvE. 

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#25 Killer_Wuggles
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[QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]GW is not a MMO thus WoW wins by default.MrGrimFandango

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Why is GW not an MMO!? LOL! It's an online RPG, buddy. It's got players on it. You can quest with it. I don't know what you're smoking, but Guild Wars IS MMO.

 

 

Massive Multiplayer Online RPG, its not Massive by any means.

The game seems big enough to me.  The worlds are listed here: www.guildwars.com/theworld

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GW newbs need to realise that WoW has WAY better PvE and PvP.

PvP in WoW is 10 times faster paced and takes WAY more skill.

Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about, and probably only played newbie PvP a low levels.

WoW succeeds in ALL aspects of Gameplay. GW has the price and graphical advantage.

FACT'D.

Big_Red_Button

I've actually played both, and all you need for WoW PvP are good weapons and armor.  You also need to be a high level for your war battleground.  I prefer Guild Wars since it's more balanced. I don't consider your post a fact by any means.  Also, I've played certainly a lot of PvP in WoW, all the way up to level 40 PvP with my friend's account.  So, you're calling me a newb?  Surely you jest.  I know 10x more what you're talking about. 

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#27 Killer_Wuggles
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

GW newbs need to realise that WoW has WAY better PvE and PvP.

PvP in WoW is 10 times faster paced and takes WAY more skill.

Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about, and probably only played newbie PvP a low levels.

WoW succeeds in ALL aspects of Gameplay. GW has the price and graphical advantage.

FACT'D.

Redmoonxl2

 

Ive played both and have end gamed in both and GW PvP is superior to WoW. WoW is a good MMO but it doesnt have ALL aspects, not even close.

Guild War's flaw as a MMO comes with the convoluted skill/class system that requires you to spend over a hundred a year to remain competitive. Don't have all the expansions even though you are using classes on your version of the game? You're out of luck.

Actually, my friend owns only Prophecies, and he can destroy Dervish and Assassins in PvP.  It may surprise you that buying all 3 of the GAMES, NOT EXPANSIONS, is not required to be very, very good.

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#28 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

GW newbs need to realise that WoW has WAY better PvE and PvP.

PvP in WoW is 10 times faster paced and takes WAY more skill.

Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about, and probably only played newbie PvP a low levels.

WoW succeeds in ALL aspects of Gameplay. GW has the price and graphical advantage.

FACT'D.

Killer_Wuggles

 

Ive played both and have end gamed in both and GW PvP is superior to WoW. WoW is a good MMO but it doesnt have ALL aspects, not even close.

Guild War's flaw as a MMO comes with the convoluted skill/class system that requires you to spend over a hundred a year to remain competitive. Don't have all the expansions even though you are using classes on your version of the game? You're out of luck.

Actually, my friend owns only Prophecies, and he can destroy Dervish and Assassins in PvP. It may surprise you that buying all 3 of the GAMES, NOT EXPANSIONS, is not required to be very, very good.

Actually, it is since tournament level skills can only be gained by getting all the expansions. Ever tried to be an assassin without the BoA Sin build because you don't have Nightfall? 

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[QUOTE="bildo2020"]the funniest part of this post is that this guy tried to say blizzard made doom....lmao thats humorous!Killer_Wuggles

Wow, I see that most people seem to think that my post is "stupid" or "pointless".

Well, get one thing straight: Every single person I play Guild Wars with classifies it as an MMO. Is the game vast, sprawling, and huge? Yes, it is. Can you level up and team up with friends? Yes, you can. Is there a strong PvP element in Guild Wars? Yes, there most certainly is.

Also, I made a typo on my part. I meant Diablo, not Doom. Sorry. :P

So by that definition, is Diablo 2 a MMO? Guild Wars is an expanded Lobby form. Central Zoned hubs with instanced quests outside. Huge and expansive? That's debatable seeing as there are invisible wall herding you along on most quests. Ever tried to jump off of most ledges? Is the world persistent? The customer service is also lacking. Behavior is hardly monitored and reporting people requires you actually tab/log out of the game and go onto their website. This is the whole reason why Guild Wars is free and not considered an MMO.