The Nintendo is kiddy arguement

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#1 Pal102
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Since the SNES days Nintendo has been called kiddy by fans of different consoles. Just how true are these. Well Mario involves an oddly proportioned plumber saving princesses and talking animals from a huge turtle. That's pretty kiddy I should say. Now let's look at Zelda. Zelda is more of a mixed bag. It has featured blood and people being stabbed in the head but it also features oddly proprtioned human beings with exagerated features and talking animals. Twilight Princess tried to go to new depths with more mature themes but still failed. OMG let's save the children from the evil monkeys. Now let's look at Kirby. Kiddy ok moving on. Next is Fire Emblem. While the violence level is not very high the story line is very mature and thought provoking sometimes. However it is also in an anime style which may turn some people off but I would still call the game series fairly mature. .

At the end of the line is Metroid. This is probably Nintendo's most mature franchise. No exagerated facial features, odd proportions or talking animals. It has always had an EXTREMELY dark atmosphere. The beggining of the game you were on a seemingly abandoned ship with no signs of life detected. Then you opened the door to the Evacuation area and what you see is shociking. A huge dead creature of unknown orgin is lying in the corner with dead Spac ePirates lying around it including on that is impaled on the creatures leg. Small vermin are eating away at the bodies and shooting the vermin at close range will cause blood to splatter on your visor rendering you sightless for several seconds. Another body is impaled on a railing and live blood is drpping from his wound. In the corner is a barely living Space Pirate with bite marks on him. Shooting him will cause blood to splatter on the walls behind him. Later on you fight a live Space Pirate with a brain Hemorage. Because of it his aim is realistically off. You all see a dead space pirate that apears to have been mostly eaten. As you go thorugh you find out that the Space Pirates have been experimenting with a drug calle dPahazon on life forms. Exposure to Phazon destroys brain cells and genral life span but also raises muscle mass to the EXTREME. Later in the game you find out they have begun using Phazon on their own men forcibly. At the beggining of the second one oyu find a lost Marine task force. Their base was in the middle of hive of strange creatures. You encounter several dead Marines hanging from the cieling about to be devoured by the inhabitants aof the hive. As you go through the abandoned area you find more dead Marines on the ground and some of the raise from the dead after being possesed by a dark creature and attack you. In the 3rd one you see a mysterious mutated creature that is mostly bones with little flesh on his body and empty eye sockets. It apears to be dead, that is until it looks at you.

In other words not ALL Nintendo's game are kiddy such as Fire Emblem which has a very mature sotryline and Metroid which honestly deserves an M rating in my opinon instead of Halo getting it.

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#3 the1stfandb
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nintendo is kiddy

the end. If u really care: why do u?

whats wrong with kiddy?

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#4 nervmeister
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I think No More Heroes and the upcoming Mad World pretty much solidifies the argument that the Wii is NOT just for kids.
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#5 Pal102
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Have you ever played through any of the Prime games?

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#6 fishfake
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and too everyone calling pokemon kiddy

take this !!

btw there are enough M rated games for wii !! but i prefer only good games and dont need those M on boxes too enjoy

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#7 Pal102
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. That's what I am saying. Nintendo is overall kiddy but not ALL of its games are.
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#8 D3monchicken
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Have you ever played through any of the Prime games?

Pal102

Are you talking to me? If so yes, and I still think you need to rethink what you said, its quite simply wrong.

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#9 Pal102
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Other then its language and use of blood why?
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#10 Riverwolf007
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Aren't the people raised on Mario in their forties now? How kiddy is that?

My theory is that 100% of these kiddy arguments come from kids.

Who else would get worked up over proving that they are not kiddy?

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Since the SNES days Nintendo has been called kiddy by fans of different consoles. Just how true are these. Well Mario involves an oddly proportioned plumber saving princesses and talking animals from a huge turtle. That's pretty kiddy I should say. Now let's look at Zelda. Zelda is more of a mixed bag. It has featured blood and people being stabbed in the head but it also features oddly proprtioned human beings with exagerated features and talking animals. Twilight Princess tried to go to new depths with more mature themes but still failed. OMG let's save the children from the evil monkeys. Now let's look at Kirby. Kiddy ok moving on. Next is Fire Emblem. While the violence level is not very high the story line is very mature and thought provoking sometimes. However it is also in an anime style which may turn some people off but I would still call the game series fairly mature. .

At the end of the line is Metroid. This is probably Nintendo's most mature franchise. No exagerated facial features, odd proportions or talking animals. It has always had an EXTREMELY dark atmosphere. The beggining of the game you were on a seemingly abandoned ship with no signs of life detected. Then you opened the door to the Evacuation area and what you see is shociking. A huge dead creature of unknown orgin is lying in the corner with dead Spac ePirates lying around it including on that is impaled on the creatures leg. Small vermin are eating away at the bodies and shooting the vermin at close range will cause blood to splatter on your visor rendering you sightless for several seconds. Another body is impaled on a railing and live blood is drpping from his wound. In the corner is a barely living Space Pirate with bite marks on him. Shooting him will cause blood to splatter on the walls behind him. Later on you fight a live Space Pirate with a brain Hemorage. Because of it his aim is realistically off. You all see a dead space pirate that apears to have been mostly eaten. As you go thorugh you find out that the Space Pirates have been experimenting with a drug calle dPahazon on life forms. Exposure to Phazon destroys brain cells and genral life span but also raises muscle mass to the EXTREME. Later in the game you find out they have begun using Phazon on their own men forcibly. At the beggining of the second one oyu find a lost Marine task force. Their base was in the middle of hive of strange creatures. You encounter several dead Marines hanging from the cieling about to be devoured by the inhabitants aof the hive. As you go through the abandoned area you find more dead Marines on the ground and some of the raise from the dead after being possesed by a dark creature and attack you. In the 3rd one you see a mysterious mutated creature that is mostly bones with little flesh on his body and empty eye sockets. It apears to be dead, that is until it looks at you.

In other words not ALL Nintendo's game are kiddy such as Fire Emblem which has a very mature sotryline and Metroid which honestly deserves an M rating in my opinon instead of Halo getting it.

Pal102

Thanks for spoiling the game for me...:(

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#12 carljohnson3456
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The Nintendo isnt "kiddy", it's just for everyone.

I've said it before - Mario isnt teaching kids the ABC's. He's trying to get his woman back. How "kiddy" is that? lol.

But seriously, it's just an "everyone" console. Mario Galaxy can be challenging sometime, and I cant see a 7 year old trying to beat Zelda: Twilight Princess.

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#14 -Wheels-
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I likes me some kiddy games. Do I care what other people think? No, because I'm mature, even though the ESRB suggests otherwise.
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#15 linkin_guy109
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people called the cube kiddy, and it had one of the best survival horror games ive ever played (eternal darkness), its just that the majority of games are rated e as compared to the maybe 20 games rated m on the wii
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#16 nervmeister
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The Nintendo isnt "kiddy", it's just for everyone.

I've said it before - Mario isnt teaching kids the ABC's. He's trying to get his woman back. How "kiddy" is that? lol.

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LOL. I'm thinking about sigging what you just said. I never knew that something posted here could be so funny yet so intelligent. Kudos.

P.S. Mario also has a symbolic undertone of drug use (mushrooms, septic adventures, etc.)

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#17 flazzle
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You know, as bad as everyone calls Red Steel, that game is NOT kiddy. It's complete swearing and sex, not to mention blood. Now, Im not saying its a good game, but many people may not realize this.

And that was released at launch.

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#18 -Wheels-
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

The Nintendo isnt "kiddy", it's just for everyone.

I've said it before - Mario isnt teaching kids the ABC's. He's trying to get his woman back. How "kiddy" is that? lol.

nervmeister

LOL. I'm thinking about sigging what you just said. I never knew that something posted here could be so funny yet so intelligent. Kudos.

P.S. Mario also has a symbolic undertone of drug use (mushrooms, septic adventures, etc.)

Floating coins, talking turtles and mountains with faces on them. I think Mario is blazed out of his mind, we're just along for the adventure. Mario's Bad Hair Day, that'll be the next game.

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#19 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

The Nintendo isnt "kiddy", it's just for everyone.

I've said it before - Mario isnt teaching kids the ABC's. He's trying to get his woman back. How "kiddy" is that? lol.

-Wheels-

LOL. I'm thinking about sigging what you just said. I never knew that something posted here could be so funny yet so intelligent. Kudos.

P.S. Mario also has a symbolic undertone of drug use (mushrooms, septic adventures, etc.)

Floating coins, talking turtles and mountains with faces on them. I think Mario is blazed out of his mind, we're just along for the adventure. Mario's Bad Hair Day, that'll be the next game.

LOL. If they do make another live-action Mario film, it'll probably be starring Cheech Marin (who amazingly enough has the perfect build and facial hair for the part.).
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#20 fishfake
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

The Nintendo isnt "kiddy", it's just for everyone.

I've said it before - Mario isnt teaching kids the ABC's. He's trying to get his woman back. How "kiddy" is that? lol.

-Wheels-

LOL. I'm thinking about sigging what you just said. I never knew that something posted here could be so funny yet so intelligent. Kudos.

P.S. Mario also has a symbolic undertone of drug use (mushrooms, septic adventures, etc.)

Floating coins, talking turtles and mountains with faces on them. I think Mario is blazed out of his mind, we're just along for the adventure. Mario's Bad Hair Day, that'll be the next game.

mario is a Italian mafia boss and sells drugs in his mushroom kingdom.

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#21 JB730
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Aren't the people raised on Mario in their forties now? How kiddy is that?

My theory is that 100% of these kiddy arguments come from kids.

Who else would get worked up over proving that they are not kiddy?

Riverwolf007

exactly

i always get a good laugh when some 15 year old kid in system wars tries to tell me that the games that i play are "kiddy" :lol:

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#22 f50p90
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and too everyone calling pokemon kiddy

take this !!

btw there are enough M rated games for wii !! but i prefer only good games and dont need those M on boxes too enjoy

fishfake
What? All I see is a bunch of parents taken their children to go inside pikachu :?
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#23 thegoldenpoo
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there is such thing as a paragraph TC. use them.
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#24 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

The Nintendo isnt "kiddy", it's just for everyone.

I've said it before - Mario isnt teaching kids the ABC's. He's trying to get his woman back. How "kiddy" is that? lol.

nervmeister

LOL. I'm thinking about sigging what you just said. I never knew that something posted here could be so funny yet so intelligent. Kudos.

P.S. Mario also has a symbolic undertone of drug use (mushrooms, septic adventures, etc.)

lol Thanks. At first I read, "I'm thinking about sigging what you said" and I thought you were going to say that what I said was stupid, :lol:.

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#25 fishfake
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[QUOTE="fishfake"]

and too everyone calling pokemon kiddy

take this !!

btw there are enough M rated games for wii !! but i prefer only good games and dont need those M on boxes too enjoy

f50p90

What? All I see is a bunch of parents taken their children to go inside pikachu :?

yes INSIDE pikachu and the main entry is where ? :lol: this picture alone is M rated :P

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#26 ATW_machine
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I love kiddy games..... but I also like games with lots, and lots of blood. Which is pretty strange, especially when you consider I'm never a fan of games that are between those two (This doesn't mean that I don't play Teen rated games, I just prefer psycho rated Mature games, or soothing Everyone games). Hey, what's wrong with Everyone rated games in the first place anyway? A lot of great games carry around the kiddy label, Super Mario Galaxy being a good recent example.
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I love kiddy games..... but I also like games with lots, and lots of blood. Which is pretty strange, especially when you consider I'm never a fan of games that are between those two (This doesn't mean that I don't play Teen rated games, I just prefer psycho rated Mature games, or soothing Everyone games). Hey, what's wrong with Everyone rated games in the first place anyway? A lot of great games carry around the kiddy label, Super Mario Galaxy being a good recent example.ATW_machine

Exactly, like most people always say, those who think playing an E rated game is kiddy shouldn't be playing mature games, because they clearly don't fit that label. Theres nothing more immature than saying something is immature. And no matter how hard people try they still can't convince me of one good reason to buy a "mature hardcore" console like the 360 and PS3, when all the games I want are on the Wii (except Dead Rising, damn you Capcom!).

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I don't really care.... i love my mario, even if it is kiddish...
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[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="fishfake"]

and too everyone calling pokemon kiddy

take this !!

Hey Mommy, why is this a girl pikachu??

btw there are enough M rated games for wii !! but i prefer only good games and dont need those M on boxes too enjoy

fishfake

What? All I see is a bunch of parents taken their children to go inside pikachu :?

yes INSIDE pikachu and the main entry is where ? :lol: this picture alone is M rated :P

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#31 planbfreak4eva
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nintendo has kiddy games..and who ever buys a wii is jsut a child...the end
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#32 goodlay
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So, what if they are? That doesn't take away the fact that they make fantastic games.
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#33 planbfreak4eva
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So, what if they are? That doesn't take away the fact that they make fantastic games.goodlay
fantastic games worth of 3 hours of gameplay at most....wow..there we go..60 euros wasted for a 3 hour game
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#34 goodlay
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[QUOTE="goodlay"]So, what if they are? That doesn't take away the fact that they make fantastic games.planbfreak4eva
fantastic games worth of 3 hours of gameplay at most....wow..there we go..60 euros wasted for a 3 hour game

That's why Zelda and Metroid both take 15+ hours? And it's extremely ironic that a PS3 fan is bashing Nintendo games for being short :lol:

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#36 the1stfandb
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Aren't the people raised on Mario in their forties now? How kiddy is that?

My theory is that 100% of these kiddy arguments come from kids.

Who else would get worked up over proving that they are not kiddy?

JB730

exactly

i always get a good laugh when some 15 year old kid in system wars tries to tell me that the games that i play are "kiddy" :lol:

Many of them probaly are kiddy. :twisted:.... no seriously.:|

I don't see how that matters though, what is wrong with kiddy games. The game is either fun or not fun to the player, it doesn't matter who the game is aimed at.

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#37 Pal102
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you're saying Metroid is kiddy?
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whoa what about Fatal frame 4 that coming to nintendo wii?
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nice wall of text.
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#40 pizzatastesgood
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TC said that nintendo is kiddy but said nothing about third-party developers

I think No More Heroes and the upcoming Mad World pretty much solidifies the argument that the Wii is NOT just for kids.nervmeister

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#41 FragTycoon
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why do you care if I think most of Wii is kiddy?

I really don't care that you think its not :|

Play what makes you happy, that's the point right?

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not a single nintendo franchise is M rated.
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#43 Terami
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I think the Wii gets labeled for being kiddy more than any previous Nintendo console, mainly due to many of the games we all see on store shelves not being of a mature rating.(and quite a bit of shovelware)

I have a different view though... I view the Wii more as a roller coaster. Roller coasters are fun. :P

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#44 fishfake
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not a single nintendo franchise is M rated. -GhostMLD-

jep you are 100% right !

if you want M rated games buy those ps3 games !

damn wrong picture :P

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[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]nintendo has kiddy games..and who ever buys a wii is jsut a child...the endfishfake

here is a list for wannabee adults like you

And exactly how many of those are worth playing at all? Like 5???

Scarfaced sucked on all the other platforms and the Xbox version looks better, and not 360, i mean the original Xbox.

Far Cry Vengence looks like someone threw up on my TV screen.

I have no idea what that next one is...

Driver series has always sucked except for like the first one.

Manhunt 2 is okay i guess.

Target Terror looks like it was made in some 14 year old's basement with a green screen.

Alone In The Dark has yet to come out and the gameplay looks aweful but the graphics still look nice.

Obscure is pretty bad too...

Resident Evil 4, Finally! Even though it's a two year old port i would play it agian... I'd buy it twice...

Resident Evil UC: Sure why not...

No More Heroes: Probebly the top of the list

Bug Island: No comment...

Mortal Kombat: It'd be okay

The Godfather: Good port

The House of The Dead: Mixed bag if your a fan or not...

Like at most 7 are worth playing.

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#46 fishfake
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[QUOTE="fishfake"]

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]nintendo has kiddy games..and who ever buys a wii is jsut a child...the endinsanejedi

here is a list for wannabee adults like you

And exactly how many of those are worth playing at all? Like 5???

Scarfaced sucked on all the other platforms and the Xbox version looks better, and not 360, i mean the original Xbox.

Far Cry Vengence looks like someone threw up on my TV screen.

I have no idea what that next one is...

Driver series has always sucked except for like the first one.

Manhunt 2 is okay i guess.

Target Terror looks like it was made in some 14 year old's basement with a green screen.

Alone In The Dark has yet to come out and the gameplay looks aweful but the graphics still look nice.

Obscure is pretty bad too...

Resident Evil 4, Finally! Even though it's a two year old port i would play it agian... I'd buy it twice...

Resident Evil UC: Sure why not...

No More Heroes: Probebly the top of the list

Bug Island: No comment...

Mortal Kombat: It'd be okay

The Godfather: Good port

The House of The Dead: Mixed bag if your a fan or not...

Like at most 7 are worth playing.

hehe did we have it over "kiddy games" or good quality games ? both are on the wii dont change how YOU want it .

it like someone says there are no shooter on 360 and after proof the same guy says "see there are no platformer" :lol:

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#47 insanejedi
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I didint say i would prefer playing Far Cry Vengince on the Wii over Super Paper Mario. I'm just pointing out that most M rated Wii games are garbage.

And in the gaming industry in general, their are also almost no 3D platformers worth playing on this generation except the big 3's first party stuff.

Banjo: Yes i know it aint out but it has a better shot than the next 3D sonic game.

Rachet and Clank: More of the same but it's still pretty rad

Mario: No comment needed.

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#48 pukmok
Member since 2008 • 775 Posts

Now let's look at Kirby. Kiddy ok moving on.

So true.:)

The kid image comes from Nintendo always targeting children (and recently people that could care less about gaming).