The Nintendo now is the New Nintendo not Nintendo of the past (respect them)

First i'll say that this isn't' the Nintendo from the gamecube era, since the president at the time was this guy
Hiroshi Yamauchi

N64

gamecube


This guy actually help mess up the success of the N64 and gamecube. This guy actually prevent mature games from being made on Nintendo platforms, but to be fair this guy also had something to do with the success of the Nes and Snes, but at the same time prevented good relationships with Nintendo and third party developers.

the current president is

Satoru Iwata

this guy must know what hes doing, cause both of his devices are more successful than the last Nintendo devices. both gamecube and GBA didn't have the amount of success and attention the wii and Ds are recieving.
wii

Ds


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he basically appeared after Yamauchi son retired, which was around 2002. satoru basically had to start off where Yamauchi left off, which might i add was a disaster. Im sure many of you remember the gamecube. The system basically wasn't a super bad system, but it wasn't a great system either. The Nintendo wii, as well as the Nintendo Ds are basically the children of Satoru Iwata.

we already know how successful the Ds lite is. cows as well as lemmings seem to think that the Nintendo now is basically the Nintendo then, which is why they seem to compare the wii to the gamecube on terms of success. Anyway, the Nintendo you know then is basically no more, this is the new Nintendo. The new Nintendo of today is more of a risk taker now.

What Nintendo is doing now is taking risks. Satoru is trying to bring gaming back to what it use to be...... Fun!

The younger games are willing to say that gaming is fun, or more fun than it was back then. This isn't so. older gamers will agree that gaming isn't as fun as it use to be. anyone who watch movies would say the same about the movies of today, that it lacks originality.

Nintendo now isn't the same as they use to be!

anyway, what Nintendo is doing with the wii funds, is basically using it to buy out smaller development studios, which basically are going to get creamed by the high development cost of the new consoles. Theres comments from small devs that back this statement, that development fee is too high. What will happen when development fee is so high, cows and lemmings? well, basically youre going to get unoriginal games. youre not going to see risk taking games, as you seen back then. you'll basically see the same generic first person shooter, WW games.

Nintendo obtained Monolith soft, the makers of baten kaitos and the xenosaga series. the company are currently working on....


Nintendo is currently growing their first party Dev houses. you know there current devs already!

- Brownie Brown (made up of ex square guys)
- Game Freak
- HAL Laboratory (working on smash brothers brawl)
- Intelligent Systems (you know there work since the original metroid, but finished super paper mario)
- Monolith Soft  (working on disaster: day of crisis)
- Nintendo EAD Tokyo (working on galaxy)
- Nintendo Software Technology Corporation (working on project hammer)
- Retro Studios (working on metroid prime 3)

Nintendo 2nd party
- AlphaDream
- Ambrella
- Camelot
- Fuse Games
 - Genius Sonority
 - NDCUBE
- Nexon
- Noise
- Saru Brunei
- skip

Nintendo on record already said they have 124 games in development for the wii and Ds (45 NewGames for Wii, 79 Titles for DS) can sony and microsoft say that?

Nintendo is known to have exlusive third parties already working on software for their consoles

- Crossbeam Studios Entertainment
- EA Salt Lake
- Fall Line
- Flagship
- Jet Black Games
- Jupiter
- Kuju Entertainment London
- Next Level Games
- Nibris
- Tose

The ps2 is known for having a lot of quirky, diverse games but this isn't going to be the same with the ps3. the ps3 isn't going to get the same type of quirky games as the ps2, from smaller developers. These type of games you'll definitly see on the wii. Nintendo(satoru iwata) has basically stated that the purchase of monolith soft will not be their last. theres going to be more purchase of other development houses.
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to sum it all up! Nintendo is here to take gaming back to what it once was! fun and full of originality! cows and lemmings respect the God of gaming!

Iwata was  still a part of gamecube just not the whole thing and nintendo is nintendo

so nintendo is the god of gaming so how can they lose for 10 years

am not trolling

Nintendo is indifferent to me this gen therfore indifference=/=respect. The only companies I respect are Kojima Productions for saving Konami this gen and Team Ninja for saying they dont care about how much units one of their game will sell but the quality of the games they make.

Iwata was still a part of gamecube just not the whole thing and nintendo is nintendo

so nintendo is the god of gaming so how can a god lose for 10 years

am not trolling

flashattackfina

Nintendo is indifferent to me this gen therfore indifference=/=respect. The only companies I respect are Kojima Productions for saving Konami this gen and Team Ninja for saying they dont care about how much units one of their game will sell but the quality of the games they make.

kage_53

that sounds like Nintendo's philosophy to me, LOL.

besides wii sports the system has nothing really, they need more games made for the controller, that is why it sells now

Iwata was still a part of gamecube just not the whole thing and nintendo is nintendo

so nintendo is the god of gaming so how can a god lose for 10 years

am not trolling

flashattackfina

Nintendo is indifferent to me this gen therfore indifference=/=respect. The only companies I respect are Kojima Productions for saving Konami this gen and Team Ninja for saying they dont care about how much units one of their game will sell but the quality of the games they make.

kage_53

Which is really a pretty hilarious statement, considering Team Ninja makes the DOA and DOA:XVB series.

:lol:

So it's not the same Nintendo that brought us this?

 

TekkenMaster606

yup, no they didn't

What site was this off of? I remember reading this somewhere..Bluestorm-Kalas

So it's not the same Nintendo that brought us this?

 

TekkenMaster606

besides wii sports the system has nothing really, they need more games made for the controller, that is why it sells now

 

winner-ps3

Koopaknight29 nice one

not really because today winner could be a future loser so judging the war based on the  6 months is silly also ms still has the lead

Before you write off Yamauchi, remember that

A) He was heavily involved with the DS product.

B) He selected Satoru Iwata to succeed him as CEO.

I think that those choices have been more than justified by events, eh? 

Koopaknight29 nice one

not really because today winner could be a future loser so judging the war based on the 6 months is silly also ms still has the lead

flashattackfina

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on. 

Before you write off Yamauchi, remember that

A) He was heavily involved with the DS product.

B) He selected Satoru Iwata to succeed him as CEO.

I think that those choices have been more than justified by events, eh?

Iyethar

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on.

fierro316

[QUOTE="fierro316"]

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on.

Rahnyc4

Actually Yamauchi's biggest mistake was the same that Iwata is doing now. Sticking with old technology making it virtually impossible for third parties to make next gen games.

It's still too early to declare a champ. 

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on. 

fierro316

You know, that's a good question you brought up, fierro. I think its mostly because of good PR. Iwata is more personable and socially likeable; Yamauchi was supposedly the "angry father" type during his days. He was a sound business person, but he made babies (and 3rd parties) cry. His disdain for 3rd party was fairly evident in the rules he laid down: exceedingly high quality bar and a large publishing fee to boot. All in all this was a fair trade of CEO's.

(Note: Most of this is gleaned knowledge. May or may not be true.)

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="fierro316"]

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on.

fierro316

Actually Yamauchi's biggest mistake was the same that Iwata is doing now. Sticking with old technology making it virtually impossible for third parties to make next gen games.

It's still too early to declare a champ. 

Next-gen games shouldn't be about graphics.  They should be about gameplay.  It's easy to make next-gen gameplay on the Wii.  It's virtually impossible to make next-gen games on the PS3 because it's so similar to the PS2 and PSP.

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="fierro316"]

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on.

fierro316

Actually Yamauchi's biggest mistake was the same that Iwata is doing now. Sticking with old technology making it virtually impossible for third parties to make next gen games.

It's still too early to declare a champ.

[QUOTE="fierro316"]

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on.

Koopaknight29

You know, that's a good question you brought up, fierro. I think its mostly because of good PR. Iwata is more personable and socially likeable; Yamauchi was supposedly the "angry father" type during his days. He was a sound business person, but he made babies (and 3rd parties) cry. His disdain for 3rd party was fairly evident in the rules he laid down: exceedingly high quality bar and a large publishing fee to boot. All in all this was a fair trade of CEO's.

(Note: Most of this is gleaned knowledge. May or may not be true.)

Yes Yamauchi suc*ed as a person, but Iwata being a "nice guy" haven't benefited gamers like me at all. 

You know, I respected the old Nintendo even if I hated some of their policies towards third-party developers for instance. Why? They met my needs as a gamer, I refuse to support the New Nintendo, the one that has ruined Star Fox and Donkey Kong, wedged Mario into every game imaginable, milked Pokemon to no end, and primarily pushed games like Nintendogs and BrainAge in place of you know....real games.Runningflame570

Too bad Ninty's game showing thus far sucks (and it appears it will stay that way)RagedRaldo54

obviously opinion, not fact, i'm looking foward to tons of Wii games in 2007.

Next-gen games shouldn't be about graphics. They should be about gameplay. It's easy to make next-gen gameplay on the Wii. It's virtually impossible to make next-gen games on the PS3 because it's so similar to the PS2 and PSP.

The_AI

You entirely fail to mention how higher performance can open up new gameplay. Naughty Dog is doing new kinds of gameplay on Uncharted Drake's Fortune that you just could not do on older hardware because of how advanced lots of the things about it are.

AI, animation, audio, visuals, environmental interaction, NPC count, draw distance, ect...all of these things can be pushed further with more powerful hardware your attempts at minimalizing that disgust me.

Also you entirely neglect the fact that Sony also has motion-sensing and that controller shape should actually work better for some genres (racing and flight sims primarily).

[QUOTE="Koopaknight29"][QUOTE="fierro316"]

No offense guys but how old are you? As much as I disliked Yamauchi Nintendo's glory days were when he was at the helm.

Iwata is an idiot. Overpriced old hardware, overpriced stone age games (VC) and I could go on.

fierro316

You know, that's a good question you brought up, fierro. I think its mostly because of good PR. Iwata is more personable and socially likeable; Yamauchi was supposedly the "angry father" type during his days. He was a sound business person, but he made babies (and 3rd parties) cry. His disdain for 3rd party was fairly evident in the rules he laid down: exceedingly high quality bar and a large publishing fee to boot. All in all this was a fair trade of CEO's.

(Note: Most of this is gleaned knowledge. May or may not be true.)

Yes Yamauchi suc*ed as a person, but Iwata being a "nice guy" haven't benefited gamers like me at all. 

He's luring those coveted 3rd party developers back (slowly mind you, might take a year before the good, non-porty stuff come in). I think that is meritable (is that even a word?). Yamauchi helped Nintendo get their collective foot in the door with his agressive tactics and Iwata is now sweet talking Nintendo into our living rooms. They're both good salesmen in that regard.

thats actually nintendo of old. The new Nintendo is actually working to rebirth the legend of zelda series, the new Nintendo is actually trying to tap into the mature gaming market, as well as the casual gaming market.Nintendo pushing games like brainage and nintendogs, is for the casual gamers. if you watch other advertisements from Nintendo they actually pushes your average nintendo hardcore games just as much as they do there casual games.
Rahnyc4

Pokemon didn't exist until the tail-end of old Nintendo and they kind of ruined the N64 games there too, tell me one Donkey Kong game as good as the DK Country titles or even the NES titles, how many Mario games have there been in the past five years, who in their right mind thought Star Fox Adventures was a good idea and that blasted Gamecube controller was fine?

Who thought that three slightly different versions of Nintendogs was a good idea and that making you know...a worthwhile followup to Super Mario RPG was not? Who thought that they should make Pokemon Snap and Hey, You! Pikachu!?

My definition of old Nintendo is NES-SNES with the transition being during the N64 years..there were some amazing games almost on par with the best of their older stuff but some REALLY ill-conceived milking of their core characters are franchises.

The CEO doesn't matter here, what matters is the design philosophy...Gamecube, DS and Wii all fit into that same philosophy. NES, the Gameboys (mostly), and SNES don't.

Nintendo 64 fits into either somewhat. 

- Nintendo Software Technology Corporation (working on project hammer)Rahnyc4

What Nintendo is doing now is taking risks. Satoru is trying to bring gaming back to what it use to be...... Fun!

Rahnyc4

Nintendo is responsible for me having fun playing games my 360? Games are allowed to have good graphics and still be fun. Thats an ignorant statement.

I've had fun on all my systems, so Nintendo isn't bring back anything to me.

I have wii and 360, so dont call me a lemming ( w/e that means). I dont have ps3 because its ****

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

Before you write off Yamauchi, remember that

A) He was heavily involved with the DS product.

B) He selected Satoru Iwata to succeed him as CEO.

I think that those choices have been more than justified by events, eh?

Rahnyc4

You would have assumed wrong.  It's difficult to ease out the majority shareholder.  Nintendo still belongs to Yamauchi, and Iwata is the man that Yamauchi wants running his company.

If it wasn't for Yamauchi, you wouldn't know the name Nintendo.  If not for Yamauchi, the game market wouldn't have rebounded so quickly after the crash of '83.

Don't tell me that his negatives outnumber his positives when you are clearly so vague in your knowledge of both.