The Nintendo now is the New Nintendo not Nintendo of the past (respect them)

[QUOTE="kage_53"]

Nintendo is indifferent to me this gen therfore indifference=/=respect. The only companies I respect are Kojima Productions for saving Konami this gen and Team Ninja for saying they dont care about how much units one of their game will sell but the quality of the games they make.

CelineDion

Which is really a pretty hilarious statement, considering Team Ninja makes the DOA and DOA:XVB series.

:lol:

Damn celine, that was an amazing point :) bravo. 

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

thats actually nintendo of old. The new Nintendo is actually working to rebirth the legend of zelda series, the new Nintendo is actually trying to tap into the mature gaming market, as well as the casual gaming market.Nintendo pushing games like brainage and nintendogs, is for the casual gamers. if you watch other advertisements from Nintendo they actually pushes your average nintendo hardcore games just as much as they do there casual games.
Runningflame570

Pokemon didn't exist until the tail-end of old Nintendo and they kind of ruined the N64 games there too, tell me one Donkey Kong game as good as the DK Country titles or even the NES titles, how many Mario games have there been in the past five years, who in their right mind thought Star Fox Adventures was a good idea and that blasted Gamecube controller was fine?

Who thought that three slightly different versions of Nintendogs was a good idea and that making you know...a worthwhile followup to Super Mario RPG was not? Who thought that they should make Pokemon Snap and Hey, You! Pikachu!?

My definition of old Nintendo is NES-SNES with the transition being during the N64 years..there were some amazing games almost on par with the best of their older stuff but some REALLY ill-conceived milking of their core characters are franchises.

The CEO doesn't matter here, what matters is the design philosophy...Gamecube, DS and Wii all fit into that same philosophy. NES, the Gameboys (mostly), and SNES don't.

Nintendo 64 fits into either somewhat.

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

What Nintendo is doing now is taking risks. Satoru is trying to bring gaming back to what it use to be...... Fun!

jcant

Nintendo is responsible for me having fun playing games my 360? Games are allowed to have good graphics and still be fun. Thats an ignorant statement.

I've had fun on all my systems, so Nintendo isn't bring back anything to me.

I have wii and 360, so dont call me a lemming ( w/e that means). I dont have ps3 because its ****

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]

Before you write off Yamauchi, remember that

A) He was heavily involved with the DS product.

B) He selected Satoru Iwata to succeed him as CEO.

I think that those choices have been more than justified by events, eh?

Iyethar

You would have assumed wrong. It's difficult to ease out the majority shareholder. Nintendo still belongs to Yamauchi, and Iwata is the man that Yamauchi wants running his company.

If it wasn't for Yamauchi, you wouldn't know the name Nintendo. If not for Yamauchi, the game market wouldn't have rebounded so quickly after the crash of '83.

Don't tell me that his negatives outnumber his positives when you are clearly so vague in your knowledge of both.

you have to realize why some of these games exsist, if youre going to slam some of them. not all these games were meant for gamers like you. whats philosophy do gamecube DS and wii fit in? since youre saying that? cause i dont know. Rahnyc4

It used to be that I enjoyed Pokemon, it used to be that I enjoyed Mario, and Donkey Kong Country IS a good series seeing as I own them all I should know. Mario has gone downhill since N64 with the only upside being New Super Mario Bros..essentially a modified SMW. All of these "core" franchises of their with the exception of Zelda have been overexposed (even that a little..Zelda as the extra character in SCII? Get out) and had "innovation" applied to them for the worse.

The philosophy of the Gamecube, DS, and Wii is that of supporting the casuals and strangers to gaming at the expensive of the people who have stuck with them for ages...I'm not sure if you are aware but I own virtually every Nintendo system up to Gamecube, they took a turn for the worse in supporting my particular gaming interests then and were left behind, thats the same reason I don't own a DS.

Personally I don't care about the stupid touchscreen especially when it harms some of my favorite franchises (DoS and Magic Seals) I don't want the nineteeth version of Pokemon, Mario Party, Nintendogs, and Brainage, I don't want to play SM64 again without an analog stick or version of the Mario Kart knock-off Diddy Kong Racing (which I played back in the N64 days and wasn't impressed by).

I want original titles from quality developers..ones that will appeal to me as a gamer and Nintendo has utterly failed to do that during sixth-generation with the DS and Wii looking no different. 

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

you have to realize why some of these games exsist, if youre going to slam some of them. not all these games were meant for gamers like you. whats philosophy do gamecube DS and wii fit in? since youre saying that? cause i dont know. Runningflame570

It used to be that I enjoyed Pokemon, it used to be that I enjoyed Mario, and Donkey Kong Country IS a good series seeing as I own them all I should know. Mario has gone downhill since N64 with the only upside being New Super Mario Bros..essentially a modified SMW. All of these "core" franchises of their with the exception of Zelda have been overexposed (even that a little..Zelda as the extra character in SCII? Get out) and had "innovation" applied to them for the worse.

The philosophy of the Gamecube, DS, and Wii is that of supporting the casuals and strangers to gaming at the expensive of the people who have stuck with them for ages...I'm not sure if you are aware but I own virtually every Nintendo system up to Gamecube, they took a turn for the worse in supporting my particular gaming interests then and were left behind, thats the same reason I don't own a DS.

Personally I don't care about the stupid touchscreen especially when it harms some of my favorite franchises (DoS and Magic Seals) I don't want the nineteeth version of Pokemon, Mario Party, Nintendogs, and Brainage, I don't want to play SM64 again without an analog stick or version of the Mario Kart knock-off Diddy Kong Racing (which I played back in the N64 days and wasn't impressed by).

I want original titles from quality developers..ones that will appeal to me as a gamer and Nintendo has utterly failed to do that during sixth-generation with the DS and Wii looking no different.

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

you have to realize why some of these games exsist, if youre going to slam some of them. not all these games were meant for gamers like you. whats philosophy do gamecube DS and wii fit in? since youre saying that? cause i dont know. Runningflame570

It used to be that I enjoyed Pokemon, it used to be that I enjoyed Mario, and Donkey Kong Country IS a good series seeing as I own them all I should know. Mario has gone downhill since N64 with the only upside being New Super Mario Bros..essentially a modified SMW. All of these "core" franchises of their with the exception of Zelda have been overexposed (even that a little..Zelda as the extra character in SCII? Get out) and had "innovation" applied to them for the worse.

The philosophy of the Gamecube, DS, and Wii is that of supporting the casuals and strangers to gaming at the expensive of the people who have stuck with them for ages...I'm not sure if you are aware but I own virtually every Nintendo system up to Gamecube, they took a turn for the worse in supporting my particular gaming interests then and were left behind, thats the same reason I don't own a DS.

Personally I don't care about the stupid touchscreen especially when it harms some of my favorite franchises (DoS and Magic Seals) I don't want the nineteeth version of Pokemon, Mario Party, Nintendogs, and Brainage, I don't want to play SM64 again without an analog stick or version of the Mario Kart knock-off Diddy Kong Racing (which I played back in the N64 days and wasn't impressed by).

I want original titles from quality developers..ones that will appeal to me as a gamer and Nintendo has utterly failed to do that during sixth-generation with the DS and Wii looking no different. 

It seems that you are suffering from Jaded-Gameritis. I suggest you take a step back, read a book, play an FPS in the PC 'till your eyes bleed, then come back with open mind. If it still persists, stop playing Nintendo games, they obviously don't interest you anymore and trying to make youself enjoy them is making you all the more bitter. Buy a 360, join LIVE (mute your headset), and play Halo 3. Or perhaps Sony and FFXIII fits your bill, I hear its new.

Remember though, Nintendo is always welcome to take you (and your money) back.

again, i gave him credit for that.. at the same time, if it wasnt for him The n64 could of lived up to its potential. i would bet money that it was cause of him the n64 remain cartrige based, bet you he had a something to do with the mini CD's on the gamecube
Rahnyc4

Yamauchi was stubborn about the issue of CD-ROM media, and made the wrong choice in a tricky transition period that involved more than just Nintendo and Sony.  Sony were effectively courting the third parties anyway, so he decided to go with the media that his internal developers wanted to use.  Everyone was being stubborn.

As for GOD, they were the least of GameCube's problems and helped to shorten load times.  Full-size DVD wouldn't have done the GameCube much good at all in a market sense.

If the worst criticism you can come up with is that the man didn't maintain monopolistic market dominance for two decades instead of just one, well... 

[QUOTE="jcant"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

What Nintendo is doing now is taking risks. Satoru is trying to bring gaming back to what it use to be...... Fun!

Rahnyc4

Nintendo is responsible for me having fun playing games my 360? Games are allowed to have good graphics and still be fun. Thats an ignorant statement.

I've had fun on all my systems, so Nintendo isn't bring back anything to me.

I have wii and 360, so dont call me a lemming ( w/e that means). I dont have ps3 because its ****

Great post... and yes, Hiroshi Yamauchi was an asshat. All he cared about was his interests. Ever since Iwata took control things have been on an upward slope. Which is an awesome thing to see. :Dfoxhound_fox

I think you've got the second party info a little off. Any company owned by Nintendo is first-party. Second-party would be contracted and not bound to the company. HAL and Game Freak are wholly owned (at least HAL, I have a little doubt on Game Freak. Maybe you can help me on that one 0_o), not sure how much of Monolith Nintendo bought.yodariquo

I dont respect them now. I respected them back in the day where they got quality games in both 1st and 3rd party.

For me to respect them now they need to get rid of the non-gamer image and care about quality games coming to their system as well as get better 3rd party support.

It seems that you are suffering from Jaded-Gameritis. I suggest you take a step back, read a book, play an FPS in the PC 'till your eyes bleed, then come back with open mind. If it still persists, stop playing Nintendo games, they obviously don't interest you anymore and trying to make youself enjoy them is making you all the more bitter. Buy a 360, join LIVE (mute your headset), and play Halo 3. Or perhaps Sony and FFXIII fits your bill, I hear its new.

Remember though, Nintendo is always welcome to take you (and your money) back.

Koopaknight29

What has Nintendo done for me lately? I've been playing videogames for nearly 15 years sorry if I'm sick of looking at and hearing freaking Mario, hearing people moan in pleasure about that pansy Link, and having little pre-pubescent kids babbling all over the place about Pokemon.

Make a few original things that I can actually like and then we can talk, Nintendo. Until then you and your Virtual Boy are sitting right where you belong..in storage.

P.S. I haven't played a FPS in a long time, its not a genre I'm a big fan of. 

*applauding*

I really like how Nintendo came in this gen. Anyone who hates Nintendo for what they doing is not looking at the big picture. Selfish gamers...

[QUOTE="Koopaknight29"]

It seems that you are suffering from Jaded-Gameritis. I suggest you take a step back, read a book, play an FPS in the PC 'till your eyes bleed, then come back with open mind. If it still persists, stop playing Nintendo games, they obviously don't interest you anymore and trying to make youself enjoy them is making you all the more bitter. Buy a 360, join LIVE (mute your headset), and play Halo 3. Or perhaps Sony and FFXIII fits your bill, I hear its new.

Remember though, Nintendo is always welcome to take you (and your money) back.

Runningflame570

What has Nintendo done for me lately? I've been playing videogames for nearly 15 years sorry if I'm sick of looking at and hearing freaking Mario, hearing people moan in pleasure about that pansy Link, and having little pre-pubescent kids babbling all over the place about Pokemon.

Make a few original things that I can actually like and then we can talk, Nintendo. Until then you and your Virtual Boy are sitting right where you belong..in storage.

P.S. I haven't played a FPS in a long time, its not a genre I'm a big fan of. 

I dont respect them now. I respected them back in the day where they got quality games in both 1st and 3rd party.

For me to respect them now they need to get rid of the non-gamer image and care about quality games coming to their system as well as get better 3rd party support.

Ninten007

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Great post... and yes, Hiroshi Yamauchi was an asshat. All he cared about was his interests. Ever since Iwata took control things have been on an upward slope. Which is an awesome thing to see. :DHeedleGlavin

Yamauchi was never a particularly nice person, nor was he ever a gamer.  However, he was one hell of a CEO.  He turned his family's regional toy company into a major international business.  He was a market visionary who made the right decisions about what consumers would want more often than not.  Perhaps that vision had begun to fade from what it had been - but not so dimly that he could not envision the DS or recognize that Iwata's vision of the Wii was the best chance for success.

Iwata did not "take control".  Yamauchi chose him.  Yamauchi made the right choice by stepping down in favor of Iwata.  It was his choice and he deserves credit for making it.

Iwata deserves credit for completely reversing the market dominance in Japan in under 30 months.  There's a reason he's a mega-rockstar among the CEO set right now. 

As a Gamecube owner last generation I can remember a lot of things Nintendo said and then didn't really do.

Once the Wii wave has died down we can see how supportive Nintendo is with the Wii. I think the next 12 months will be very interesting for Nintendo. The Wii is doing great now but can the company keep the console going from strength to strength?

As a Gamecube owner last generation I can remember a lot of things Nintendo said and then didn't really do.

Once the Wii wave has died down we can see how supportive Nintendo is with the Wii. I think the next 12 months will be very interesting for Nintendo. The Wii is doing great now but can the company keep the console going from strength to strength?

 

sumo1973

Satoru Iwata

Rahnyc4

He looks a tad gay 

Edit: Also looks like he has got a wig on 

So we should immediately respect Nintendo for no reason other than the fact that they now don't suck?  I'm sorry, but blindly following a manufacturer for no reason is a degree of fanboyism which I don't suscribe to.a_ratchet_fan

They still suck, they have just got better at getting the publics money.Social conditioning ftw

TC, the GBA didn't have the ammount of success the DS has?  Is that why Nintendo has moved like  what....80-90 million GBA's?  SergeantSnitch

[QUOTE="sumo1973"]

As a Gamecube owner last generation I can remember a lot of things Nintendo said and then didn't really do.

Once the Wii wave has died down we can see how supportive Nintendo is with the Wii. I think the next 12 months will be very interesting for Nintendo. The Wii is doing great now but can the company keep the console going from strength to strength?

 

Rahnyc4

Let's see if they can sort this Wii supply and demand thing first. There's no point talking about how great Nintendo is if people still can't easily get console in the first place.