The one HUGE factor that noone has ever brought up when comparing game lineups

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically, a title which was finnaly, after 2 generations, taken back by its former leader, Nintendo. Meaning there are more people from the last gen, who are familiar with most of the "PROVEN EPIC" titles that sony is known for, including the MGS series, than there are people from the last gen, who are fans of the "Epic" titles that the xbox was known for.

Despite the fact that the PS3 currently does not have the hardware sales, and game liabrary that the 360 has, people are forgetting a VERY large factor: The Sony fanbase is still much, much larger than the Microsoft fanbase. PS2s have sold almost as much as the 360 has in the last week alone.

MGS4, Killzone 2(sep), Socom confrontation(sep),Final Fantasy XIII(dec),Final Fantasy Versus XIII,God of War 3(march),Gran Turismo 5, all of which are to be released by next march (FF versus possibly)

and how big are the fanbases of the games I mentioned above? All the games above have proven themselves as some of the bigger epic titles that fueled the ps2 to be the best system (yes even killzone redeemed itself with killzone liberation on the psp). And those are just already-proven IPs that already have an established fanbase. not even talking about all the great new IPs we are getting this year. Now, the 360 has very great games, and will continue to get them, but the xbox 360 has already seen one of the only major things that its fanbase went into this gen longing for, which was HALO 3. while the ps3 has to simpily hurry up and get all its proven epic titles out, to overthrow the 360's lineup. Now all thats left for the 360, are POTENTIAL AAA titles that must first prove themselves before they can be accurately hyped, while the PS3s future titles are basically guarranteed to score good. All of the PS3 games that have flopped so far are new IPs that noone cared about, while every one of the major titles comming have already proven themselves as EPIC titles, and are basically guarranteed a good score.

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Well, I have brought it up before in other threads, and was immediately put off as a fanboy. Let me first start off that this thread was typed in a friendly, debative tone, and that I am FAR from a fanboy. I am a true gamer, and will eventually have all systems, I NEVER EVER worship a brand, however of the 3, I like sony. The 360 is currently my default console, although its not mine, I borrow it for weeks at a time though. I love halo 3 very much. That does not make me bias, because if it does, then every single gamer in the world is a biased fanboy because they like one console a small bit better. As long as it doesnt minimise your view of any other console, you are not a fanboy. If you call me a fanboy for this thread, it only proves that YOU are a fanboy because of your unnecesarily antagonistic denial of the point of this thread.

I see where you're coming from, but no one can deny the fact that mostly casual gamers bought the PS2, they all migrated to the Wii now. You must now face the fact that the PS3 will not be first in games or sales. But be proud for your purchase, for you have great games on it. Infacr, fo out and buy a Wii and 30 if you can. Why own one console with limited games, when you can own three and have more?

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

armymen4

Nintendo has always had the biggest library of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Nintendo brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically.

The main point: SNES fanbase = N64 fanbase

[QUOTE="armymen4"]

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Blackbond

Nintendo has always had the biggest library of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Nintendo brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically.

The main point: SNES fanbase = N64 fanbase

I'm not sure what you're trying to see, but have you seen the N64 and Gamecube sales numbers? :|

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="armymen4"]

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

dewmandew7

Nintendo has always had the biggest library of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Nintendo brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically.

The main point: SNES fanbase = N64 fanbase

I'm not sure what you're trying to see, but have you seen the N64 and Gamecube sales numbers? :|

Unless your being sarcastic since it is impossible to tell if someone is being sarcastic since Sarcasm is something that you need to be face to face to tell if they are being sarcastic, and if you can't be face to face with them you defenately have to hear there voice.

Did you really just tell me for the umpteenth time that the future is rosy. Phew, good, I was getting worried there for a second.

You made one major error:

PS2 fanbase =/= PS3 fanbase

a new cow argument

'just remember' :lol:

a new cow argument

'just remember' :lol:

thegoldenpoo

Topic creator says PS2 Fanbase = PS3 fanbase.

Ok, so then NES fanbase = SNES Fanbase = N64 Fanbase = Gamecube Fanbase = Wii Fanbase.

See how ridiculous that looks?

Buh,buh buh, its, itz t3h sales 4 win teh warz!!!!!111!!1!

Haha well that seems to be the popular opinion here anyway, I wish people would start remembering the games for what they are, not for the AAA's and how many of them are sold..

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games (dont you mean nintendo? untill last gen they did). People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically, a title which was finnaly, after 2 generations, taken back by its former leader, Nintendo. Meaning there are more people from the last gen, who are familiar with most of the "PROVEN EPIC" titles that sony is known for, including the MGS series (oh is an MGS hype thread. boo!), than there are people from the last gen, who are fans of the "Epic" titles that the xbox was known for.

Despite the fact that the PS3 currently does not have the hardware sales, and game liabrary that the 360 has, people are forgetting a VERY large factor: The Sony fanbase is still much, much larger than the Microsoft fanbase. PS2s have sold almost as much as the 360 has in the last week alone.

MGS4, Killzone 2(sep), Socom confrontation(sep),Final Fantasy XIII(dec),Final Fantasy Versus XIII,God of War 3(march),Gran Turismo 5, all of which are to be released by next march (FF versus possibly) (all NOT OUT YET, so we are living on promises and your crystal ball gazings)

and how big are the fanbases of the games I mentioned above? (reduced scince so many good new ips have come out, you rely on loyalty and you get stagnation) All the games above have proven themselves as some of the bigger epic titles that fueled the ps2 to be the best system (yes even killzone redeemed itself with killzone liberation on the psp) (lol). And those are just already-proven IPs that already have an established fanbase. not even talking about allthe great new IPs we are getting this year(you mean haze haze and haze?). Now, the 360 has very great games, and will continue to get them, but the xbox 360 has already seen one of the only major things that its fanbase went into this gen longing for, which was HALO 3. while the ps3 has to simpily hurry up and get all its proven epic titles out(just wait, they will be AWSOME :lol:), to overthrow the 360's lineup. (again, promisies priomeses promises)Now all thats left for the 360, are POTENTIAL AAA titles that must first prove themselves before they can be accurately hyped(you just proved yourself a hypocrite, you mean like all those ps3 games that must first prove themselvs? double standards much?), while the PS3s future titles are basically guarranteed to score good (:lol: points at lair). All of the PS3 games that have flopped so far are new IPs that noone cared about, while every one of the major titles comming have already proven themselves as EPIC titles, and are basically guarranteed a good score.

The Moot point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Well, I have brought it up before in other threads, and was immediately put off as a fanboy. Let me first start off that this thread was typed in a friendly, debative tone, and that I am FAR from a fanboy. I am a true gamer, and will eventually have all systems, I NEVER EVER worship a brand, however of the 3, I like sony. The 360 is currently my default console, although its not mine, I borrow it for weeks at a time though. I love halo 3 very much. That does not make me bias, because if it does, then every single gamer in the world is a biased fanboy because they like one console a small bit better. As long as it doesnt minimise your view of any other console, you are not a fanboy. If you call me a fanboy for this thread, it only proves that YOU are a fanboy because of your unnecesarily antagonistic denial of the point of this thread. (auto fail)

armymen4

You made one major error:

PS2 fanbase =/= PS3 fanbase

the_leet_kid

[QUOTE="armymen4"]

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Blackbond

Nintendo has always had the biggest library of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Nintendo brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically.

The main point: SNES fanbase = N64 fanbase

awesome answer. TC = fail.

a new cow argument

'just remember' :lol:

thegoldenpoo

:lol: classic

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

a new cow argument

'just remember' :lol:

LINKloco

Its like saying:

cos^2 A + sin^2 A = 2

It just doesn't make any sense :o

[QUOTE="the_leet_kid"]

You made one major error:

PS2 fanbase =/= PS3 fanbase

armymen4

You mean to tell me, someone who has grown up with Nintendo products, played somer or most of the "PROVEN EPIC TITLES", became fans of the franchises, and naturally love Nintendo, will not towards Gamecube when they make the leap? Oh wait...Gamecube flopped in sales. See why your argument doesn't work?

in the world of corporate riff raff, user base does not matter. One day you are on top, the next you are looking for a job (phil harrison).rgame1

Btw, Google "harrison pissed off" If you want to see the whole story on this.

I agree with you, though I'm to lazy to read all your post.

I believe PS2's are selling so well because:

a. People are preparing to buy a PS3 and therefore want to catch up with game stories

or

b. People are having to buy them to catch up with game stories because the 40 Gigs don't have BC

or

c. Their old PS2's are dying and they are cheaper just to buy a new one rather than have them fixed.

[QUOTE="dewmandew7"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="armymen4"]

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Nintendo_Ownes7

Nintendo has always had the biggest library of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Nintendo brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically.

The main point: SNES fanbase = N64 fanbase

I'm not sure what you're trying to see, but have you seen the N64 and Gamecube sales numbers? :|

Unless your being sarcastic since it is impossible to tell if someone is being sarcastic since Sarcasm is something that you need to be face to face to tell if they are being sarcastic, and if you can't be face to face with them you defenately have to hear there voice.

Actually , there a emote for sarcasm : :roll:

like :

"Yeah right :roll:" !

I can see where you are coming from, and in theory it may work, but in real life it does not.

Just because you like a product, it does not eman you commit yourself to that brand, if you see a product better made by another brand, you will by from them.

But I do agree, the fact that Sony has a huge variety of proven titles does help them.

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="dewmandew7"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="armymen4"]

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Prid3r

Nintendo has always had the biggest library of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Nintendo brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically.

The main point: SNES fanbase = N64 fanbase

I'm not sure what you're trying to see, but have you seen the N64 and Gamecube sales numbers? :|

Unless your being sarcastic since it is impossible to tell if someone is being sarcastic since Sarcasm is something that you need to be face to face to tell if they are being sarcastic, and if you can't be face to face with them you defenately have to hear there voice.

Actually , there a emote for sarcasm : :roll:

like :

"Yeah right :roll:" !

I agree with you, though I'm to lazy to read all your post.

I believe PS2's are selling so well because:

a. People are preparing to buy a PS3 and therefore want to catch up with game stories

or

b. People are having to buy them to catch up with game stories because the 40 Gigs don't have BC

or

c. Their old PS2's are dying and they are cheaper just to buy a new one rather than have them fixed.

SgtWhiskeyjack

I think you're probably close with c. Lots of people who don't have enough money for a PS3/360/Wii(especially younger kids), are buying up the ps2's like crazy because of the price drop. Also people in countries were the ps2 wasn't so available(or affordable) are buying them. If the xbox(180? ... i guess) or gamcube were still in as heavy production as the ps2, they would still be selling a surprising amount too.

[QUOTE="armymen4"]

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games (dont you mean nintendo? untill last gen they did). People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically, a title which was finnaly, after 2 generations, taken back by its former leader, Nintendo. Meaning there are more people from the last gen, who are familiar with most of the "PROVEN EPIC" titles that sony is known for, including the MGS series (oh is an MGS hype thread. boo!), than there are people from the last gen, who are fans of the "Epic" titles that the xbox was known for.

Despite the fact that the PS3 currently does not have the hardware sales, and game liabrary that the 360 has, people are forgetting a VERY large factor: The Sony fanbase is still much, much larger than the Microsoft fanbase. PS2s have sold almost as much as the 360 has in the last week alone.

MGS4, Killzone 2(sep), Socom confrontation(sep),Final Fantasy XIII(dec),Final Fantasy Versus XIII,God of War 3(march),Gran Turismo 5, all of which are to be released by next march (FF versus possibly) (all NOT OUT YET, so we are living on promises and your crystal ball gazings)

and how big are the fanbases of the games I mentioned above? (reduced scince so many good new ips have come out, you rely on loyalty and you get stagnation) All the games above have proven themselves as some of the bigger epic titles that fueled the ps2 to be the best system (yes even killzone redeemed itself with killzone liberation on the psp) (lol). And those are just already-proven IPs that already have an established fanbase. not even talking about allthe great new IPs we are getting this year(you mean haze haze and haze?). Now, the 360 has very great games, and will continue to get them, but the xbox 360 has already seen one of the only major things that its fanbase went into this gen longing for, which was HALO 3. while the ps3 has to simpily hurry up and get all its proven epic titles out(just wait, they will be AWSOME :lol:), to overthrow the 360's lineup. (again, promisies priomeses promises)Now all thats left for the 360, are POTENTIAL AAA titles that must first prove themselves before they can be accurately hyped(you just proved yourself a hypocrite, you mean like all those ps3 games that must first prove themselvs? double standards much?), while the PS3s future titles are basically guarranteed to score good (:lol: points at lair). All of the PS3 games that have flopped so far are new IPs that noone cared about, while every one of the major titles comming have already proven themselves as EPIC titles, and are basically guarranteed a good score.

The Moot point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Well, I have brought it up before in other threads, and was immediately put off as a fanboy. Let me first start off that this thread was typed in a friendly, debative tone, and that I am FAR from a fanboy. I am a true gamer, and will eventually have all systems, I NEVER EVER worship a brand, however of the 3, I like sony. The 360 is currently my default console, although its not mine, I borrow it for weeks at a time though. I love halo 3 very much. That does not make me bias, because if it does, then every single gamer in the world is a biased fanboy because they like one console a small bit better. As long as it doesnt minimise your view of any other console, you are not a fanboy. If you call me a fanboy for this thread, it only proves that YOU are a fanboy because of your unnecesarily antagonistic denial of the point of this thread. (auto fail)

thegoldenpoo

you completely missed the point of this thread. and as for mentioning haze, it is a new IP that had never proven itself. All these IPs have already proven themselves to be big titles. thats not a crystal ball prediction, you say that like its a wild guess or something. I guess the epic background of all those titles (with the exception of killzone, which im willing to bet you never played most of these in your life, and guarrantee you have never played killzone liberation and bash it purely as a reason to bash my topic).

Now, instead of ignoring the point I made, lets go back. all of those games I listed, none of them have to prove themselves, they all WILL score good, and WILL be accepted by its fanbase, because they already have a massive ALREADY-ESTABLISHED fanbase. Final fantasy has had a background as the best JRPG franchise on the market.

I never said that the 360 would not get good games, it will continue to get great games, its just that MS fanbase has gone into this generation and has already recieved the one major thing they wanted, which was halo 3, now they will have some sequels, but mostly all of their games are new IPs that will have to first prove themselves before they can get proper recognition.

and as for the main point, I guess I didnt word it right: [FACT]Sony Fanbase > Microsoft Fanbase (not system sales, but game and brand association) [END FACT]

Countering what I said, by bringing up LAIR proves that you dodged the perfectly valid debation point I brought up. and the fact that you antagonistically attack me, with bias, while I give you valid unbiased information in a civilized manner, and from a casual standpoint only proves you to be a fanboy, and denying the underlined fact provided above only further proves me right.

[QUOTE="the_leet_kid"]

You made one major error:

PS2 fanbase =/= PS3 fanbase

armymen4

wow, you can REALLY tell a cow by his killzone2 sig. thanx for wearing the equivelant of a cow-bell guys.

again all uor saying is

'just remember' the former awsmone of the ps2 is gone. face it.

a new cow argument

'just remember' :lol:

thegoldenpoo

um its not new...its infact quite old they used it in the ps2 gen, and they used it this gen.

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="armymen4"]

Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games (dont you mean nintendo? untill last gen they did). People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically, a title which was finnaly, after 2 generations, taken back by its former leader, Nintendo. Meaning there are more people from the last gen, who are familiar with most of the "PROVEN EPIC" titles that sony is known for, including the MGS series (oh is an MGS hype thread. boo!), than there are people from the last gen, who are fans of the "Epic" titles that the xbox was known for.

Despite the fact that the PS3 currently does not have the hardware sales, and game liabrary that the 360 has, people are forgetting a VERY large factor: The Sony fanbase is still much, much larger than the Microsoft fanbase. PS2s have sold almost as much as the 360 has in the last week alone.

MGS4, Killzone 2(sep), Socom confrontation(sep),Final Fantasy XIII(dec),Final Fantasy Versus XIII,God of War 3(march),Gran Turismo 5, all of which are to be released by next march (FF versus possibly) (all NOT OUT YET, so we are living on promises and your crystal ball gazings)

and how big are the fanbases of the games I mentioned above? (reduced scince so many good new ips have come out, you rely on loyalty and you get stagnation) All the games above have proven themselves as some of the bigger epic titles that fueled the ps2 to be the best system (yes even killzone redeemed itself with killzone liberation on the psp) (lol). And those are just already-proven IPs that already have an established fanbase. not even talking about allthe great new IPs we are getting this year(you mean haze haze and haze?). Now, the 360 has very great games, and will continue to get them, but the xbox 360 has already seen one of the only major things that its fanbase went into this gen longing for, which was HALO 3. while the ps3 has to simpily hurry up and get all its proven epic titles out(just wait, they will be AWSOME :lol:), to overthrow the 360's lineup. (again, promisies priomeses promises)Now all thats left for the 360, are POTENTIAL AAA titles that must first prove themselves before they can be accurately hyped(you just proved yourself a hypocrite, you mean like all those ps3 games that must first prove themselvs? double standards much?), while the PS3s future titles are basically guarranteed to score good (:lol: points at lair). All of the PS3 games that have flopped so far are new IPs that noone cared about, while every one of the major titles comming have already proven themselves as EPIC titles, and are basically guarranteed a good score.

The Moot point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Well, I have brought it up before in other threads, and was immediately put off as a fanboy. Let me first start off that this thread was typed in a friendly, debative tone, and that I am FAR from a fanboy. I am a true gamer, and will eventually have all systems, I NEVER EVER worship a brand, however of the 3, I like sony. The 360 is currently my default console, although its not mine, I borrow it for weeks at a time though. I love halo 3 very much. That does not make me bias, because if it does, then every single gamer in the world is a biased fanboy because they like one console a small bit better. As long as it doesnt minimise your view of any other console, you are not a fanboy. If you call me a fanboy for this thread, it only proves that YOU are a fanboy because of your unnecesarily antagonistic denial of the point of this thread. (auto fail)

armymen4

you completely missed the point of this thread (no i didn'y your saying the ps3 will be good because the ps2 was good. nice logic there :lol:). and as for mentioning haze, it is a new IP that had never proven itself. All these IPs have already proven themselves to be big titles. thats not a crystal ball prediction, you say that like its a wild guess or something. I guess the epic background of all those titles (with the exception of killzone, which im willing to bet you never played most of these in your life, and guarrantee you have never played killzone liberation and bash it purely as a reason to bash my topic).

Now, instead of ignoring the point I made, lets go back. all of those games I listed, none of them have to prove themselves, they allWILL score good (crystal ball, again), and WILL be accepted by its fanbase, because they already have a massive ALREADY-ESTABLISHED fanbase. Final fantasy has had a background as the best JRPG franchise on the market.

I never said that the 360 would not get good games, it will continue to get great games, its just that MS fanbase has gone into this generation and has already recieved the one major thing they wanted, which was halo 3, now they will have some sequels, but mostly all of their games are new IPs that will have to first prove themselves before they can get proper recognition.

and as for the MOOT (its a moot point, the point is moot) point, I guess I didnt word it right: [Fanboyism]Sony Fanbase > Microsoft Fanbase (not system sales, but game and brand association) [fanboyism continues later ]

Countering what I said, by bringing up LAIR proves that you dodged the perfectly valid debation point I brought up. and the fact that you antagonistically attack me, with bias, while I give you valid unbiased information in a civilized manner, and from a casual standpoint only proves you to be a fanboy(your calling me a fanboy? the irony is lost on you), and denying the underlined fact provided above only further proves me right.

thanx for another post to pick apart. :P

[QUOTE="armymen4"][QUOTE="the_leet_kid"]

You made one major error:

PS2 fanbase =/= PS3 fanbase

thegoldenpoo

wow, you can REALLY tell a cow by his killzone2 sig. thanx for wearing the equivelant of a cow-bell guys.

again all uor saying is

'just remember' the former awsmone of the ps2 is gone. face it.

so im a cow because I have a killzone 2 sig? so that means everyone with a halo sig is a Lemming? so you ignore everything I said denying me being a fanboy, and you ignore the valid point I gave you, just to attack me while I gave you an arguement from an unbiased standpoint comming from both sides? LOL, that proves you are a fanboy. I like how its easier to attack someone, when they give you a really strong point that they cant argue with, rather than actually debate it like civilised people, you attack my credibility. Now tell me, who here sounds more like a fanboy, ME or YOU?

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="armymen4"][QUOTE="the_leet_kid"]

You made one major error:

PS2 fanbase =/= PS3 fanbase

armymen4

wow, you can REALLY tell a cow by his killzone2 sig. thanx for wearing the equivelant of a cow-bell guys.

again all uor saying is

'just remember' the former awsmone of the ps2 is gone. face it.

so im a cow because I have a killzone 2 sig? so that means everyone with a halo sig is a Lemming? so you ignore everything I said denying me being a fanboy, and you ignore the valid point I gave you, just to attack me while I gave you an arguement from an unbiased standpoint comming from both sides? LOL, that proves you are a fanboy. I like how its easier to attack someone, when they give you a really strong point that they cant argue with, rather than actually debate it like civilised people, you attack my credibility. Now tell me, who here sounds more like a fanboy, ME or YOU?

this is my last post in this thread, and you sound most like the fanboy. have a nice day and keep on mooing!

thanx for another post to pick apart. :P

thegoldenpoo

LOL, you still attack me, and you STILL ignore the point. all you did in your last post was change my words, and call everything I said fanboyism, and pick apart everything I said taking it out of context, and call me a fanboy numerous times. you cant even back up anything you are saying while I can. I gave you a huge wall of unbiased information, comming from 3 sides of the system war, while all you can do is call me a fanboy over and over again. LOL, you didnt even debate against any of the true facts I said, all you did was cal it fanboyism. That wins arguements for you, dismissing the truth when it gets hard for you. Come back to me when you can give me logical information to back up anything you are saying.

oh, and explain to me why I am a fanboy, in more than one sentance. (waits for something simple and indirect like "LULZ, l00k at ur p0st LULZ" because you are incapable of backing yourself up logically). the fact that you feel such the need to unnecesarily antagonise me, and cannot find anything to directly attack what I say, only dismissing it as fanboyism, proves you to be a fanboy. Its just funny how much the blunt truth upsets you so much.

And those are just already-proven IPs that already have an established fanbase. not even talking about all the great new IPs we are getting this year.

Now all thats left for the 360, are POTENTIAL AAA titles that must first prove themselves before they can be accurately hyped, while the PS3s future titles are basically guarranteed to score good. All of the PS3 games that have flopped so far are new IPs that noone cared about, while every one of the major titles comming have already proven themselves as EPIC titles, and are basically guarranteed a good score.

armymen4

have the new guaranteed PS3 IP's proven themselves?

and you're obviously a fanboy

[QUOTE="armymen4"]

And those are just already-proven IPs that already have an established fanbase. not even talking about all the great new IPs we are getting this year.

Now all thats left for the 360, are POTENTIAL AAA titles that must first prove themselves before they can be accurately hyped, while the PS3s future titles are basically guarranteed to score good. All of the PS3 games that have flopped so far are new IPs that noone cared about, while every one of the major titles comming have already proven themselves as EPIC titles, and are basically guarranteed a good score.

krunkfu2

have the new guaranteed PS3 IP's proven themselves?

and you're obviously a fanboy

so, what was your incentive to calling me a fanboy again? I like how you were so desperate to attack me that you had to find something like that in my post to call me a fanboy for, because you couldnt attack the ACTUAL point I stated, because it was truth. That proves YOU are a rabid fanboy.

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

thanx for another post to pick apart. :P

armymen4

LOL, you still attack me, and you STILL ignore the point. all you did in your last post was change my words, and call everything I said fanboyism, and pick apart everything I said taking it out of context, and call me a fanboy numerous times. you cant even back up anything you are saying while I can. I gave you a huge wall of unbiased information, comming from 3 sides of the system war, while all you can do is call me a fanboy over and over again. LOL, you didnt even debate against any of the true facts I said, all you did was cal it fanboyism. That wins arguements for you, dismissing the truth when it gets hard for you. Come back to me when you can give me logical information to back up anything you are saying.

oh, and explain to me why I am a fanboy, in more than one sentance. (waits for something simple and indirect like "LULZ, l00k at ur p0st LULZ" because you are incapable of backing yourself up logically). the fact that you feel such the need to unnecesarily antagonise me, and cannot find anything to directly attack what I say, only dismissing it as fanboyism, proves you to be a fanboy. Its just funny how much the blunt truth upsets you so much.

actually, i think he has completely decimated your argument.

a new cow argument

'just remember' :lol:

thegoldenpoo

LMAO :lol:

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a new cow argument

'just remember' :lol:

Eponique

LMAO :lol:

LOL it goes perfectly with the wait until...' argument!

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Sony has always had the biggest liabrary of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Playstation brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically

The main point:PS2 fanbase = PS3 fanbase

Blackbond

Nintendo has always had the biggest library of games. People seem to be forgetting that. The Nintendo brand, has , for the last 2 generations of the gaming industry, led the competing consoles in userbase dramatically.

The main point: SNES fanbase = N64 fanbase