The only games that feel next gen were X and MGSV

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#1 nintendoman562
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They're the only games that feel like they're doing something that couldn't have been done on the HD twins and offering new gameplay experiences.

No game last generation could match the scope of X in terms of game world and philosophy. Those games which similarly sized overworlds, such as the Elder Scrolls games, were often buggy and had a very generic copy and paste feeling. Given Nintendo and Monolith Soft's track record with polish, it's unlikely X would be glitchy. X not only feel inspired in terms of art design, but the worlds are high in detail and massive as well. Couple that with the fact that it has online multiplayer, a feat that couldn't have been done with the likes of Fallout or Skyrim, and X truly feels like an next gen experience.

In terms of MGSV, open world stealth is an entirely new concept that couldn't have been done before. The game is also pretty much the best looking out of anything we've ever seen.

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#2 mems_1224
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This was probably the best E3 in a long time. There are so many amazing looking games. Next gen is looking to have a great start unlike this gen.
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This was probably the best E3 in a long time. There are so many amazing looking games. Next gen is looking to have a great start unlike this gen. mems_1224
Best since 2007 I'd say
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This was probably the best E3 in a long time. There are so many amazing looking games. Next gen is looking to have a great start unlike this gen. mems_1224
I'm not going to deny that this E3 was awesome. It just lacked a bit in the innovation department. So far I haven't seen any gameplay experiences that couldn't have been done on older consoles in terms of graphics or gameplay other than X or MGSV.
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#5 AmazonTreeBoa
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What is "X"?
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What is "X"?AmazonTreeBoa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg
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#7 TorqueHappens08
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Second son should be added, as the gameplay looks incredible, and so does the graphics. the trailer turned out to be gameplay.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]This was probably the best E3 in a long time. There are so many amazing looking games. Next gen is looking to have a great start unlike this gen. nintendoman562
I'm not going to deny that this E3 was awesome. It just lacked a bit in the innovation department. So far I haven't seen any gameplay experiences that couldn't have been done on older consoles in terms of graphics or gameplay other than X or MGSV.

The only "innovation" I saw this E3 was the use of tablets to help out in online games which could be awesome or horrible. I believe the innovation will be there but we just haven't seen it yet
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#9 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]What is "X"?nintendoman562

Here you go. Embedded for quick access to the awesomeness :P

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This was probably the best E3 in a long time. There are so many amazing looking games. Next gen is looking to have a great start unlike this gen. mems_1224
yeah, i'm surprised at how many games i liked seeing. also @topic, the witcher 3 says hi.
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#11 ConanTheStoner
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MGS5 is by far my favorite game of the show.  And X looks damn great too.

I still dont see why you think any of them look innovative.  Or even more next gen than some of the other games presented.

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Second son should be added, as the gameplay looks incredible, and so does the graphics. the trailer turned out to be gameplay.

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The gameplay looked too similar to Infamous 2. You shoot stuff from your hands(looked like the same animation from I2), you levitate(which is stupid) and instead of electrical poles you go into smoke vents. Graphically it looks cool but the gameplay was not impressive at all to me.
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#13 voicereason
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Agreed about MGS5, but i still need to see more gameplay of MGS5 In all honesty, The ONLY game at E3 that truly looked and played like a NEXT GEN game was Infamous Second Son Killzone Shadow Fall looked next gen too Gotta' love those Playstation exclusives. Infamous and Killzone are early launch titles and already look and play better then 98% of suppoed "next gen" games we have seen Cant wait to see what Naughy Dog is going to do on PS4 hardware. They will stop HEARTS son! Playstation exclusive developers are going to murder the competition
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]This was probably the best E3 in a long time. There are so many amazing looking games. Next gen is looking to have a great start unlike this gen. nintendoman562
I'm not going to deny that this E3 was awesome. It just lacked a bit in the innovation department. So far I haven't seen any gameplay experiences that couldn't have been done on older consoles in terms of graphics or gameplay other than X or MGSV.

it seems the major thing devs want to do now is persistent world multiplayer. it wasn't impossible last gen (demon's and dark souls were around), but it seems to be a trend that will define a lot of the games coming out early next gen.
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Agreed about MGS5, but i still need to see more gameplay of MGS5 In all honesty, The ONLY game at E3 that truly looked and played like a NEXT GEN game was Infamous Second Son Killzone Shadow Fall was the second most NEXT gen game at E3 Gotta love those Playstation exclusives. Infamous and Killzone are early launch titles and already look and play better then 98% of suppoed "next gen" games we have seen Cant wait to see what Naughy Dog is going to do on PS4 hardware Playstation exclusive developers are going to murder the competitionvoicereason

You remind me of this delusional cow I used to know.  Fisted Bro was it?  Cant remember.

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[QUOTE="voicereason"]Agreed about MGS5, but i still need to see more gameplay of MGS5 In all honesty, The ONLY game at E3 that truly looked and played like a NEXT GEN game was Infamous Second Son Killzone Shadow Fall was the second most NEXT gen game at E3 Gotta love those Playstation exclusives. Infamous and Killzone are early launch titles and already look and play better then 98% of suppoed "next gen" games we have seen Cant wait to see what Naughy Dog is going to do on PS4 hardware Playstation exclusive developers are going to murder the competitionConanTheStoner

You remind me of this delusional cow I used to know.  Fisted Bro was it?  Cant remember.

:lol: fisted bro :lol:
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You name X but not TW3 which is like two gens ahead of X? funny. X has dinosaurs and who doesn't like dinosaurs? Skyrim is probably much bigger than X in scale so yes its perfectly possible on current gen. TW3 on the other hand,,,,, good luck.
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#18 IshmaelSonata
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The Witcher 3, hands down best game from E3 for me.

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#19 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]What is "X"?nintendoman562
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg

:shock: What looked next gen about that game to you because I am not seeing it at all? Looks current gen to me.

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#21 lamprey263
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what seems so next gen about MGSV?
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[QUOTE="nintendoman562"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]What is "X"?AncientDozer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg

The game is beautiful but I wouldn't say "innovative". It's essentially lost planet meets GTA. Or an open world lost planet not on a frozen planet. It's a definitely must have judging by the trailer alone. HOWEVER. . . I feel like we are not going to see too much "innovation" this gen or the next one. What's there to innovate? Is making maps bigger or more games open world "innovative"? Is better graphics more innovative? Transforming robots, so on and so forth.

i don't remember us getting enough information on X for either of you to make the assumptions you're making regarding the gameplay.
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#23 voicereason
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[QUOTE="TorqueHappens08"]

Second son should be added, as the gameplay looks incredible, and so does the graphics. the trailer turned out to be gameplay.

mems_1224
The gameplay looked too similar to Infamous 2. You shoot stuff from your hands(looked like the same animation from I2), you levitate(which is stupid) and instead of electrical poles you go into smoke vents. Graphically it looks cool but the gameplay was not impressive at all to me.

You are so deluded. You can break down any game that way to make seem less impressive etc Tell me what game you liked at E3 and I will be able to break it down much worse in that same way Infamous Second Son showed off AMAZING gameplay. I did a write up on it. Infamous is one of the ONLY games that truly felt NEXT gen at E3 STOP looking at gameplay of it with your xbot rose tinted glasses on. TAKE them off
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="TorqueHappens08"]

Second son should be added, as the gameplay looks incredible, and so does the graphics. the trailer turned out to be gameplay.

voicereason
The gameplay looked too similar to Infamous 2. You shoot stuff from your hands(looked like the same animation from I2), you levitate(which is stupid) and instead of electrical poles you go into smoke vents. Graphically it looks cool but the gameplay was not impressive at all to me.

You are so deluded. You can break down any game that way to make seem less impressive etc Tell what game you liked and I will be able to break it down much worse in that same way Infamous Second Son showed off AMAZING gameplay. I did a write up on it. Imfamous is one of the ONLY games that truly felt NEXT gen at E3 STOP looking at gameplay of it with your xbot rose tinted glasses on. TAKE them off

low standards confirmed.
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[QUOTE="voicereason"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] The gameplay looked too similar to Infamous 2. You shoot stuff from your hands(looked like the same animation from I2), you levitate(which is stupid) and instead of electrical poles you go into smoke vents. Graphically it looks cool but the gameplay was not impressive at all to me. mems_1224
You are so deluded. You can break down any game that way to make seem less impressive etc Tell what game you liked and I will be able to break it down much worse in that same way Infamous Second Son showed off AMAZING gameplay. I did a write up on it. Imfamous is one of the ONLY games that truly felt NEXT gen at E3 STOP looking at gameplay of it with your xbot rose tinted glasses on. TAKE them off

low standards confirmed.

If you can even call those standards.

It seems to me, this voicereason guy never got to play real games like Gears and Forza.  Probably the kind of guy that played Uncharted and just tried to pretend it was Gears the whole time.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]This was probably the best E3 in a long time. There are so many amazing looking games. Next gen is looking to have a great start unlike this gen. R3FURBISHED
Best since 2007 I'd say

thats exactly what I was telling my friend
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="TorqueHappens08"]

Second son should be added, as the gameplay looks incredible, and so does the graphics. the trailer turned out to be gameplay.

voicereason

The gameplay looked too similar to Infamous 2. You shoot stuff from your hands(looked like the same animation from I2), you levitate(which is stupid) and instead of electrical poles you go into smoke vents. Graphically it looks cool but the gameplay was not impressive at all to me.

You are so deluded. You can break down any game that way to make seem less impressive etc Tell what game you liked and I will be able to break it down much worse in that same way Infamous Second Son showed off AMAZING gameplay. I did a write up on it. Imfamous is one of the ONLY games that truly felt NEXT gen at E3 STOP looking at gameplay of it with your xbot rose tinted glasses on. TAKE them off

im looking at it with my ps4 fanboy goggles and the game wasn't impressive one bit. Unimpressive graphics to say the least and calling the THE most impressive/next gen title is :lol:
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Witcher 3 makes both look like a joke to be honest.

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#29 pawq4
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what seems so next gen about MGSV?lamprey263

How many open world stealth have you played?

I guess Dishonored and Hitman are kind of open, but do they have vehicles?

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#30 GOGOGOGURT
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Maybe graphics.  Other than that, Destiny, Project spark, Mirrors edge 2, and the Division grabbed my attention.

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]what seems so next gen about MGSV?pawq4

How many open world stealth have you played?

I guess Dishonored and Hitman are kind of open, but do they have vehicles?

Far Cry 3 did.


That said, there's no way MGSV will offer anywhere near the freedom Dishonored did.

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[QUOTE="voicereason"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] The gameplay looked too similar to Infamous 2. You shoot stuff from your hands(looked like the same animation from I2), you levitate(which is stupid) and instead of electrical poles you go into smoke vents. Graphically it looks cool but the gameplay was not impressive at all to me. silversix_

You are so deluded. You can break down any game that way to make seem less impressive etc Tell what game you liked and I will be able to break it down much worse in that same way Infamous Second Son showed off AMAZING gameplay. I did a write up on it. Imfamous is one of the ONLY games that truly felt NEXT gen at E3 STOP looking at gameplay of it with your xbot rose tinted glasses on. TAKE them off

im looking at it with my ps4 fanboy goggles and the game wasn't impressive one bit. Unimpressive graphics to say the least and calling the THE most impressive/next gen title is :lol:
image_infamous_second_son-22142-2661_000

 

Yeah if 5 years ago someone told me that this is what next gen would look like, I would laugh.

 

Now I'm sobbing.

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#33 sukraj
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Second son should be added, as the gameplay looks incredible, and so does the graphics. the trailer turned out to be gameplay.

TorqueHappens08

yes Second Son looks amazing.

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#34 campzor
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by X, do you mean monoliths wii u game? lol no...
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Well there was this:

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#36 TheShadowLord07
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Witcher 3 makes both look like a joke to be honest.

AdrianWerner

the images look very nice though look kinda compressed.

but they are really setting the bar pretty high.

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#37 k2theswiss
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witcher 3

 is my choice of being a true next gen title 

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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]What is "X"?nintendoman562
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg

it sure is one title I can not wait get my hands on! I was pretty disappointed when they said 2014
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Agreed about MGS5, but i still need to see more gameplay of MGS5 In all honesty, The ONLY game at E3 that truly looked and played like a NEXT GEN game was Infamous Second Son Killzone Shadow Fall looked next gen too Gotta' love those Playstation exclusives. Infamous and Killzone are early launch titles and already look and play better then 98% of suppoed "next gen" games we have seen Cant wait to see what Naughy Dog is going to do on PS4 hardware. They will stop HEARTS son! Playstation exclusive developers are going to murder the competitionvoicereason

fanboy get that crap out of you mouth 

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#40 p3anut
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But MGSV is coming out on current gen also.

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#41 SuperFlakeman
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They're the only games that feel like they're doing something that couldn't have been done 

nintendoman562

This mindset is starting to get annoying.

You have missed the point of gaming if you think every video game should strive to do something that wasn't possible to replicate previously on a technical level.

Games like Super Meat Boy are innovative, fresh and push the boundaries of what you can do with gameplay in a platformer, despite the fact that it could technically been made on a 90s PC, given the small scope and 2D sprite graphics.

Conversely, games like ACIII, TES 5: Skyrim and GTA 4 are all shit games.

Another argument is how Skyward Sword's areas have so much gameplay substance, while everybody is rooting for #BigEmptyFields for teh immersion factor.

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#42 nameless12345
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Yet they both ran on current-gen hardware...

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#43 xhawk27
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Dead Rising 3 look pretty good. I doubt you could run that game on current console hardware. 

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#44 SchnabbleTab
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They're the only games that feel like they're doing something that couldn't have been done on the HD twins and offering new gameplay experiences.

No game last generation could match the scope of X in terms of game world and philosophy. Those games which similarly sized overworlds, such as the Elder Scrolls games, were often buggy and had a very generic copy and paste feeling. Given Nintendo and Monolith Soft's track record with polish, it's unlikely X would be glitchy. X not only feel inspired in terms of art design, but the worlds are high in detail and massive as well. Couple that with the fact that it has online multiplayer, a feat that couldn't have been done with the likes of Fallout or Skyrim, and X truly feels like an next gen experience.

In terms of MGSV, open world stealth is an entirely new concept that couldn't have been done before. The game is also pretty much the best looking out of anything we've ever seen.

Discuss.

nintendoman562

 

X and MGSV could have done last gen too, just not with the same kind of graphics of course.

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#45 princeofshapeir
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The Witcher 3 is also pretty next-gen. If it all comes together it'll be the bigget open-world single-player RPG with a cohesive narrative. 

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#46 TheDidact
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Have you seen The Division? Infamous: SS? Killzone: SF? All these games looked next gen to me. Edit: And The Witcher 3, especially The Witcher 3
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]What is "X"?nintendoman562
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg

Games looks stupid
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#48 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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oh please. While this E3 was great this innovation talk is crap. "How can we *innovate existing franchises?*" MAKE IT OPEN WORLD. MGS now open world.... OMG THE GENIUS... seriously? as much as I like MGS ..... this open world will suffer from the same crap that most open world games do, mindless repition. Linear > Open world for ALOT of games..... why everyone thinks otherwise.
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#49 illmatic8582
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You name X but not TW3 which is like two gens ahead of X? funny. X has dinosaurs and who doesn't like dinosaurs? Skyrim is probably much bigger than X in scale so yes its perfectly possible on current gen. TW3 on the other hand,,,,, good luck.silversix_
Lmao ur an idiot we know nothing about the game. How do u know skyrim is bigger dumb@ss?
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Member since 2007 • 30574 Posts

The Division, The Witcher 3 and Destiny, in my opinion.