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#1 legalize82
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is the controller nothing more ps4 has everything else on lock

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verry smart move MS to launch it also on pc 1mil would be a waste  if no one can use  it because only a handfull wanabee gamers will on xbox one

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And better OS. And more (and better) exclusives in the launch window.
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#3 lundy86_4
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Seriously, shut up.

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Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

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#5 PS4TrumpsXbox1
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is the controller nothing more ps4 has everything else on lock

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verry smart move MS to launch it also on pc 1mil would be a waste  if no one can use  it because no one will on xbox one

legalize82
Well I created a thread titled: gamers prefer DS4 over Xone controller 3:1, there is a link on a article about it. A lot of people seems to not think xbox controller is better, so does that mean Xone has no pluses??
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#6 psymon100
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D-Pad kind of looks like a real plus sign now. 

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#7 deactivated-63e66f5999640
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Great opinion bro.
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#8 MonsieurX
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Everything else on lock? :?
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#9 kuraimen
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You can ignore it on the store? That's a plus
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I hate the Dpad and analog placement. DS4 for me

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#11 legalize82
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Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

xhawk27

NSA cam ? no thanks

hulu netflix behind paywall ? no thanks

better looking hardware ?  70s vcr looks better

enetrtainment center ? :lol: welcome rasberry pi

voice chat quality :lol:

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#12 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

legalize82

NSA cam ? no thanks

hulu netflix behind paywall ? no thanks

better looking hardware ?  70s vcr looks better

enetrtainment center ? :lol: welcome rasberry pi

voice chat quality :lol:

kinect's isn't required anymore. Not already having another way to watch those on tv Subjective 2nd point
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If the Xbox One really does have dedicated servers available for every game that would be a huge plus too.
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Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

xhawk27

If Motion controls are your thing, sure hyp Kinect. Media Features? PS4 can multitask just like X1 can. If using Kinect to change tv channels is your thing, by all means hype it. Don't act as if these are objective advantages when they're not! Apps? Elaborate? Voice Chat Quality? Now you're making sh1t up:? Online features? You do know PS4 online is different from PS3 online right? Not to mention at least PS plus gives you something for your subscription with free games to try out. Try again? 

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If the Xbox One really does have dedicated servers available for every game that would be a huge plus too.bobbetybob
It does since there's over 300k servers.
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#16 legalize82
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]If the Xbox One really does have dedicated servers available for every game that would be a huge plus too.mitu123
It does since there's over 300k servers.

 

virtual servers

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#17 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]If the Xbox One really does have dedicated servers available for every game that would be a huge plus too.legalize82

It does since there's over 300k servers.

 

virtual servers

Yep.

On topic: The controller looks great!

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#18 Ly_the_Fairy
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Better controller, better features, and a better-looking library of announced exclusives

Xbox - One and Done :cool:

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#19 danjammer69
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Yea that controller sure is pretty.

I really like the little 'nubbies' that are on the analogs for extra grip.

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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

Sagemode87

If Motion controls are your thing, sure hyp Kinect. Media Features? PS4 can multitask just like X1 can. If using Kinect to change tv channels is your thing, by all means hype it. Don't act as if these are objective advantages when they're not! Apps? Elaborate? Voice Chat Quality? Now you're making sh1t up:? Online features? You do know PS4 online is different from PS3 online right? Not to mention at least PS plus gives you something for your subscription with free games to try out. Try again? 

MS is using wi-fi direct that gives you way more bandwidth than Blue-tooth that the PS4 usses. Thus voice chat quality is going to be better on the Xbox One. The media features because X1 is built for TV because of the hdmi input. You can watch Live TV and surf the Internet at the same time. 

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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]If the Xbox One really does have dedicated servers available for every game that would be a huge plus too.legalize82

It does since there's over 300k servers.

virtual servers

Is nothing like true dedicated server. Lemming are such gullible that they believe every game has dedicated server. Why would MS provide to COD that sells 10 million dedicated server for 6v6. :lol:

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#22 legalize82
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[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

xhawk27

If Motion controls are your thing, sure hyp Kinect. Media Features? PS4 can multitask just like X1 can. If using Kinect to change tv channels is your thing, by all means hype it. Don't act as if these are objective advantages when they're not! Apps? Elaborate? Voice Chat Quality? Now you're making sh1t up:? Online features? You do know PS4 online is different from PS3 online right? Not to mention at least PS plus gives you something for your subscription with free games to try out. Try again? 

MS is using wi-fi direct that gives you way more bandwidth than Blue-tooth that the PS4 usses. Thus voice chat quality is going to be better on the Xbox One. The media features because X1 is built for TV because of the hdmi input. You can watch Live TV and surf the Internet at the same time. 

my vcr can record 2 channels and watch at the same time also my vcr can do movies music series on demand without netflix paywall why should i pick xbox one over my VCRagain ? i want a gaming console a ps4 that is
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

If Motion controls are your thing, sure hyp Kinect. Media Features? PS4 can multitask just like X1 can. If using Kinect to change tv channels is your thing, by all means hype it. Don't act as if these are objective advantages when they're not! Apps? Elaborate? Voice Chat Quality? Now you're making sh1t up:? Online features? You do know PS4 online is different from PS3 online right? Not to mention at least PS plus gives you something for your subscription with free games to try out. Try again? 

legalize82

MS is using wi-fi direct that gives you way more bandwidth than Blue-tooth that the PS4 usses. Thus voice chat quality is going to be better on the Xbox One. The media features because X1 is built for TV because of the hdmi input. You can watch Live TV and surf the Internet at the same time. 

my vcr can record 2 channels and watch at the same time also my vcr can do movies music series on demand without netflix paywall why should i pick xbox one over my VCRagain ? i want a gaming console a ps4 that is

i haven't seen a vcr in many years.

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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

If Motion controls are your thing, sure hyp Kinect. Media Features? PS4 can multitask just like X1 can. If using Kinect to change tv channels is your thing, by all means hype it. Don't act as if these are objective advantages when they're not! Apps? Elaborate? Voice Chat Quality? Now you're making sh1t up:? Online features? You do know PS4 online is different from PS3 online right? Not to mention at least PS plus gives you something for your subscription with free games to try out. Try again? 

legalize82

MS is using wi-fi direct that gives you way more bandwidth than Blue-tooth that the PS4 usses. Thus voice chat quality is going to be better on the Xbox One. The media features because X1 is built for TV because of the hdmi input. You can watch Live TV and surf the Internet at the same time. 

my vcr can record 2 channels and watch at the same time also my vcr can do movies music series on demand why should i pick xbox one over my VCRagain ? i want a gaming console a ps4 that is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBn75iYkQg TLHBO!!!
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#25 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="legalize82"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]It does since there's over 300k servers.Mr-Kutaragi

 

virtual servers

Is nothing like true dedicated server. Lemming are such gullible that they believe every game has dedicated server. Why would MS provide to COD that sells 10 million dedicated server for 6v6. :lol:

You have no idea what you're talking about :cool:

And its up to devs whether they make use of their own dedicated servers or use Microsofts Azure network or just stick to client hosting. I'd imagine CoD will be client hosted unless they're gonna up the player count. I haven't been paying attention

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#26 Mr-Kutaragi
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I have no idea what I'm talking about RR360DD
Stop there next time. :cool:
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#27 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I have no idea what I'm talking about Mr-Kutaragi
Stop there next time. :cool:

Damn, you were owned big time

#dealwithit

:cool:

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#28 vpacalypse
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I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

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I haven't been paying attentionRR360DD
Please do not cry. #cliffdive :cool:
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#30 Mr-Kutaragi
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I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

vpacalypse
Smallest edge by what standards? $100 less is small? 40% raw power difference is small? Pre order difference between console is small? In house developer quality between Sony and MS is small? I will not take your word.
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#31 vpacalypse
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[QUOTE="vpacalypse"]

I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

Mr-Kutaragi
Smallest edge by what standards? $100 less is small? 40% raw power difference is small? Pre order difference between console is small? In house developer quality between Sony and MS is small? I will not take your word.

I wasn't taking price into consideration... I feel it is imminent the X1 will announce a kinect-less X1 matching (if not beating) the ps4 price. 40% power difference sounds bigger than you'll actually see in real life conditions where most people wouldn't bother noticing (even side by side screens of the respective consoles wouldn't translate into 40% more rendering capabilities). pre-order difference doesn't matter... I'm comparing the consoles not sales figures... what are sales figures going to do for me? I do this for a living ... there are so many variables to list ... which haven't even been mentioned in this thread ... take my word for it
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[QUOTE="vpacalypse"]

I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

Mr-Kutaragi

Smallest edge by what standards? $100 less is small? 40% raw power difference is small? Pre order difference between console is small? In house developer quality between Sony and MS is small? I will not take your word.

Where are you getting 40% from?

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[QUOTE="vpacalypse"]

I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

Mr-Kutaragi
Smallest edge by what standards? $100 less is small? 40% raw power difference is small? Pre order difference between console is small? In house developer quality between Sony and MS is small? I will not take your word.

40% ?, the hyperbole is strong with this one,lol
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#34 vpacalypse
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[QUOTE="vpacalypse"]

I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

Mr-Kutaragi
Smallest edge by what standards? $100 less is small? 40% raw power difference is small? Pre order difference between console is small? In house developer quality between Sony and MS is small? I will not take your word.

Look, think of it this way. Let's call the X1 a bugatti veyron. & the PS4 a buggati veyron super sport. The super sport will be the better car ... & most normal people wouldn't even know it. I'm getting a ps4 atm ... if it makes you happy.
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#35 Mr-Kutaragi
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="vpacalypse"]

I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

vpacalypse
Smallest edge by what standards? $100 less is small? 40% raw power difference is small? Pre order difference between console is small? In house developer quality between Sony and MS is small? I will not take your word.

I wasn't taking price into consideration... I feel it is imminent the X1 will announce a kinect-less X1 matching (if not beating) the ps4 price. 40% power difference sounds bigger than you'll actually see in real life conditions where most people wouldn't bother noticing (even side by side screens of the respective consoles wouldn't translate into 40% more rendering capabilities). pre-order difference doesn't matter... I'm comparing the consoles not sales figures... what are sales figures going to do for me? I do this for a living ... there are so many variables to list ... which haven't even been mentioned in this thread ... take my word for it

Price is big factor, if you put stronger console for $400 next to weaker console for $500 with nsa spycam, seems easy decision for gamer to make. Your feeling does not mean much, also MS deny dropping kinect. Maybe happens, especially after launch and being stomped by ps4 sale. But, forum user "feeling" is not proof. Difference between Titanfall and Killzone is clear. Pre order sale are indicate interest from consumer. Sale matter, just ask Wii U. With more sale, more developer support and investment in exclusive. Wii U is such bad shape, does not even get port from weaker PS3/360. Successful console mean more game for you. You do what for living, comment badly about videogaming industry?
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:D Thanks for your fanboy opinion! I needed a good laugh. Oh and don't create anymore topics.

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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="vpacalypse"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"] Smallest edge by what standards? $100 less is small? 40% raw power difference is small? Pre order difference between console is small? In house developer quality between Sony and MS is small? I will not take your word.

I wasn't taking price into consideration... I feel it is imminent the X1 will announce a kinect-less X1 matching (if not beating) the ps4 price. 40% power difference sounds bigger than you'll actually see in real life conditions where most people wouldn't bother noticing (even side by side screens of the respective consoles wouldn't translate into 40% more rendering capabilities). pre-order difference doesn't matter... I'm comparing the consoles not sales figures... what are sales figures going to do for me? I do this for a living ... there are so many variables to list ... which haven't even been mentioned in this thread ... take my word for it

Price is big factor, if you put stronger console for $400 next to weaker console for $500 with nsa spycam, seems easy decision for gamer to make. Your feeling does not mean much, also MS deny dropping kinect. Maybe happens, especially after launch and being stomped by ps4 sale. But, forum user "feeling" is not proof. Difference between Titanfall and Killzone is clear. Pre order sale are indicate interest from consumer. Sale matter, just ask Wii U. With more sale, more developer support and investment in exclusive. Wii U is such bad shape, does not even get port from weaker PS3/360. Successful console mean more game for you. You do what for living, comment badly about videogaming industry?

One of these days Yakuza is going to smoke your fool a$$.
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#38 blackace
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The controller is just a small part of the XBox One's greatness. The games are going to be insane. Can't wait to see what other exclusives Microsoft acquires.
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Beautiful controller.
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#40 Mr-Kutaragi
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One of these days Yakuza is going to smoke your fool a$$.FoxbatAlpha
Please do not cry. I do not think Titanfall will bad game, look more fun than latest COD video to me. Just that visual and performance are not impress for 10 year old source engine.
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#41 FoxbatAlpha
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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"]One of these days Yakuza is going to smoke your fool a$$.Mr-Kutaragi
Please do not cry. I do not think Titanfall will bad game, look more fun than latest COD video to me. Just that visual and performance are not impress for 10 year old source engine.

*Puts sword back in display case back in nerd room* Right, we will all have fun no matter what in few months.
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#42 vpacalypse
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Jesus, your arguing with someone whos going to buy a ps4 anyway lol

how can I explain this ... yes price matters alot & is a positive for the ps4.

 

I'm ignoring sales/ pre order figures etc ... just looking at how the situation is going to affect me & any other normal gamer.

If it's investment your worried about ... you should go with microsoft who have a ton more money than sony to plug into their respective console.

 

I'm not commenting on the industry, but the consumer experience when they play the console & Apart from kinect ... the consoles are almost identical.

Also, when titanfall is released for ps4... just remember me when it doesn't look 40% better lol.

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#43 Mr-Kutaragi
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The controller is just a small part of the XBox One's greatness. The games are going to be insane. Can't wait to see what other exclusives Microsoft acquires. blackace
You will wait, just like waiting for 360 exclusives post 2008:
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#44 legalize82
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[QUOTE="blackace"]The controller is just a small part of the XBox One's greatness. The games are going to be insane. Can't wait to see what other exclusives Microsoft acquires. Mr-Kutaragi
You will wait, just like waiting for 360 exclusives post 2008:

:lol:
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#45 Mr-Kutaragi
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Jesus, your arguing with someone whos going to buy a ps4 anyway lol

how can I explain this ... yes price matters alot & is a positive for the ps4.

 

I'm ignoring sales/ pre order figures etc ... just looking at how the situation is going to affect me & any other normal gamer.

If it's investment your worried about ... you should go with microsoft who have a ton more money than sony to plug into their respective console.

 

I'm not commenting on the industry, but the consumer experience when they play the console & Apart from kinect ... the consoles are almost identical.

Also, when titanfall is released for ps4... just remember me when it doesn't look 40% better lol.

vpacalypse
Money mean nothing, as we saw two past generation. MS is richest company in console business yet cannot compete on exclusive game. They realize this, and invest instead in ESPN, TV, Kinect. Casual will not realize difference between game because ignorance, and developer will not invest much in one version more than other. This is why it comes down to exclusive. When Titanfall is port, I expect performance gain but not much because will just be port.
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#46 YoshiYogurt
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And better OS. And more (and better) exclusives in the launch window.charizard1605
Better OS? seriously? The dashboard is just going to be another ad-board.
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#47 vpacalypse
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Next gen - only hard core gamers will give a monkeys who has the better dash board.

As long as both are pleasent & functional ... who cares. 

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#48 cainetao11
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I've seen smarter threads arguing which console is better & why.

ps4 has the smallest edge atm (pre-gamescom) ... which may/ may not change.

There are too many things to list why the ps4 still has slightest edge over the X1 even if they drop kinect/ price but just accept it for my word. Besides... normal gamers would hardly feel being handed the short straw...

 

They are both basically the same machine now ... you can't go wrong with either.

I'll be evaluating what's what come release time with both consoles are in their final iterations ... & getting the one which works best in the long run.

vpacalypse
Well said. I'll own both consoles for the games they offer.
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#49 XBOunity
Member since 2013 • 3837 Posts

Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

xhawk27

dat truth, at least cows giving the controller credit.   it also does 5.1 from the 3.5 mm jack compared to sonys stereo.

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#50 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="legalize82"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Better Camera, Media Features, better looking hardware for entertainment centers, Online features, Apps, and Voice chat quality. 

NSA cam ? no thanks

hulu netflix behind paywall ? no thanks

better looking hardware ?  70s vcr looks better

enetrtainment center ? :lol: welcome rasberry pi

voice chat quality :lol:

I see System Wars hasn't changed a bit since I last frequented...