Does anyone here know how big are the console versions of Max Payne 3? Any links? Because I still find it hard to justify the whole 35GB of the PC version.
Anyone?
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Does anyone here know how big are the console versions of Max Payne 3? Any links? Because I still find it hard to justify the whole 35GB of the PC version.
Anyone?
16GB on the 360.
It's not 35GB on PC. 35GB of free HDD space was recommended. Of course it's going to be larger though. Higher res textures and all the stuff.
Does anyone here know how big are the console versions of Max Payne 3? Any links? Because I still find it hard to justify the whole 35GB of the PC version.
Anyone?shalashaska88
You realise that 2TB drives are well under a hundred quid these days? 35gb is nothing.
Dude, BF3, Crysis 2 had hi res textures too. And they're MUCH bigger than Max Payne 3. I'm worried that this'll turn out like another GTA IV. If I can run BF3 at Ultra at a steady 40 to 50fps on a rather outdated machine, then this should be no problem. But I barely have 40GB of space...16GB on the 360.
It's not 35GB on PC. 35GB of free HDD space was recommended. Of course it's going to be larger though. Higher res textures and all the stuff.
ChubbyGuy40
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Does anyone here know how big are the console versions of Max Payne 3? Any links? Because I still find it hard to justify the whole 35GB of the PC version.
Anyone?tenaka2
You realise that 2TB drives are well under a hundred quid these days? 35gb is nothing.
For budget gamers like me, it is a big deal. If it looks like a million bucks like Crysis or BF3 then yeah, but the RAGE engine is faaar from impressive.Diablo 3 required 15GB of free space. The install folder is only 7.8GB or something like that.
Total War games also require more free space than is actually needed when the game is installed.
That space is used for caching or when installing the game to unpack stuff.
I really doubt Max Payne 3s install folder will be 35GB but you will need that much free space either way.
Dude, BF3, Crysis 2 had hi res textures too. And they're MUCH bigger than Max Payne 3. I'm worried that this'll turn out like another GTA IV. If I can run BF3 at Ultra at a steady 40 to 50fps on a rather outdated machine, then this should be no problem. But I barely have 40GB of space...shalashaska88
What do you mean bigger than MP3? File size? Crysis 2 was nothing. BF3 is only 15GB.
MP3 is also Rockstar's first PC-led game since...maybe it is the first. Unless all the textures are 4k size, it won't be 35GB. 25GB would be the highest and I really doubt it would be near that.
We'll see. It's hard to be optimistic when Rockstar seems to hate PC gamers with lame ports like GTAIV and LA Noire. Looking at your sig, I still kinda wish Remedy's the one doing MP3. At least Alan Wake's port on PC was fantastic.Diablo 3 required 15GB of free space. The install folder is only 7.8GB or something like that.
Total War games also require more free space than is actually needed when the game is installed.
That space is used for caching or when installing the game to unpack stuff.I really doubt Max Payne 3s install folder will be 35GB but you will need that much free space either way.
R4gn4r0k
[QUOTE="shalashaska88"] Dude, BF3, Crysis 2 had hi res textures too. And they're MUCH bigger than Max Payne 3. I'm worried that this'll turn out like another GTA IV. If I can run BF3 at Ultra at a steady 40 to 50fps on a rather outdated machine, then this should be no problem. But I barely have 40GB of space...ChubbyGuy40
What do you mean bigger than MP3? File size? Crysis 2 was nothing. BF3 is only 15GB.
MP3 is also Rockstar's first PC-led game since...maybe it is the first. Unless all the textures are 4k size, it won't be 35GB. 25GB would be the highest and I really doubt it would be near that.
Ok, I'm basing this through video reviews, (I know, it's hardly fair) but from what I saw, it's just a linear shooter without the massive areas unlike these two games. (I mean look at BF3's MP maps!) So why the insanely huge requirements? Have you seen them? 2-16GB of RAM? Memory leak issues?? 8600GT to GTX680?? They're just listing what's the best thing you can put inside your casing!We'll see. It's hard to be optimistic when Rockstar seems to hate PC gamers with lame ports like GTAIV and LA Noire. Looking at your sig, I still kinda wish Remedy's the one doing MP3. At least Alan Wake's port on PC was fantastic. shalashaska88
They don't hate PC gamers, it's just that console gamers buy millions of their games. I did too as I didn't want to wait a year for a port eventhough I'd much rather buy the game on PC. With Max Payne 3 the wait doesn't seem to be that long and from what I heard (system specs as well as previews) the port seems to be a lot better than what we got in the past. This time I'm buying the PC version.
But yeah, Remedy would have done a much better port. On the other hand if Remedy developed Max Payne 3 we might not've had the awesome game that is Alan Wake.
So why the insanely huge requirements? Have you seen them? 2-16GB of RAM? Memory leak issues?? 8600GT to GTX680?? They're just listing what's the best thing you can put inside your casing! shalashaska88
That's exactly what they listed: they listed everything the game will run on, everything that is supported.
You won't need 16Gb of ram, the latest i7 and a 680 to max this game out.
[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]
Does anyone here know how big are the console versions of Max Payne 3? Any links? Because I still find it hard to justify the whole 35GB of the PC version.
Anyone?tenaka2
You realise that 2TB drives are well under a hundred quid these days? 35gb is nothing.
That's not the problem for me. If I'm downloading the game through Steam, that would take me about at least 10-12 hours. Which is the reason why I decided to pre-order a retail copy.[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]We'll see. It's hard to be optimistic when Rockstar seems to hate PC gamers with lame ports like GTAIV and LA Noire. Looking at your sig, I still kinda wish Remedy's the one doing MP3. At least Alan Wake's port on PC was fantastic. R4gn4r0k
They don't hate PC gamers, it's just that console gamers buy millions of their games. I did too as I didn't want to wait a year for a port eventhough I'd much rather buy the game on PC. With Max Payne 3 the wait doesn't seem to be that long and from what I heard (system specs as well as previews) the port seems to be a lot better than what we got in the past. This time I'm buying the PC version.
But yeah, Remedy would have done a much better port. On the other hand if Remedy developed Max Payne 3 we might not've had the awesome game that is Alan Wake.
I actually fall into that category too, I buy all their games, the console versions. But I'd rather play Max Payne 3 on PC, because I had good memories of playing first two games on PCs.
Ok, I'm basing this through video reviews, (I know, it's hardly fair) but from what I saw, it's just a linear shooter without the massive areas unlike these two games. (I mean look at BF3's MP maps!) So why the insanely huge requirements? Have you seen them? 2-16GB of RAM? Memory leak issues?? 8600GT to GTX680?? They're just listing what's the best thing you can put inside your casing! shalashaska88
Crysis 2 is a linear shooter without massive areas. Serious Sam 3 has large areas, yet it doesn't even break 5GB.
Those aren't requirement. Those are what it supports (at the moment.) 2GB RAM and an 8600GT is the minimum. 16GB of RAM and a GTX 680 isn't the recommended.
Doesn't look like a great port. Looks like my 6850 will run it on 30fps-ish. I give up. I'll just get the darned PS3 version. Can I have a link to that?Unless you want the game to run at 90+ FPS at 1080p, than you do need a 680:
R4gn4r0k
I actually fall into that category too, I buy all their games, the console versions. But I'd rather play Max Payne 3 on PC, because I had good memories of playing first two games on PCs.
shalashaska88
I know there are more like us. They would get more sales on PC if the release date was sooner and the PC version was better optimized.
Max Payne 3 will be just that: only 2 weeks to wait and according to the graph I posted above it should be a good port.
I would say wait untill the PC version is release to see if it's any good, if it's not get it on console ;)
[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]Ok, I'm basing this through video reviews, (I know, it's hardly fair) but from what I saw, it's just a linear shooter without the massive areas unlike these two games. (I mean look at BF3's MP maps!) So why the insanely huge requirements? Have you seen them? 2-16GB of RAM? Memory leak issues?? 8600GT to GTX680?? They're just listing what's the best thing you can put inside your casing! ChubbyGuy40
Crysis 2 is a linear shooter without massive areas. Serious Sam 3 has large areas, yet it doesn't even break 5GB.
Those aren't requirement. Those are what it supports (at the moment.) 2GB RAM and an 8600GT is the minimum. 16GB of RAM and a GTX 680 isn't the recommended.
Ok now compare those to Max Payne 3. Justified? Even Skyrim had a measly amount 5GB of files. What's Rockstar's excuse for the unnecessary hard disk space? Another lazy port?Doesn't look like a great port. Looks like my 6850 will run it on 30fps-ish. I give up. I'll just get the darned PS3 version. Can I have a link to that? shalashaska88
They said the console version was the equivalent of low settings on PC.
So even if your running this on medium at 1080p with low AA it'll look better than on consoles.
It is a good port. Source is from Nvidia.
Ok now compare those to Max Payne 3. Justified? Even Skyrim had a measly amount 5GB of files. What's Rockstar's excuse for the unnecessary hard disk space? Another lazy port?shalashaska88
Prerendered cutscenes/CGI take up a lot of room. I don't know if there's any in MP3 though. We don't know the file size yet, so it doesn't matter anyway. The listing is recommended, not what's needed. What's so hard to understand?
It is a good port. Source is from Nvidia.R4gn4r0k
That's why I don't like that chart. I'd expect modern cards to greatly outperform the 8800/9800GT cards, not double their performance.
[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]
It is a good port. Source is from Nvidia.ChubbyGuy40
That's why I don't like that chart. I'd expect modern cards to greatly outperform the 8800/9800GT cards, not double their performance.
You mean that as a problem of Max Payne 3 or of the graphics cards advancements ?
So Rockstar revealed it will indeed take up 35GB of space. This is because of textures that are 4x the size of consoles, improved audio quality, and no scaled down assets like consoles have.
LOWEST TESTED SPECS
Windows 7/Vista/XP PC (32 or 64 bit)
Intel Dual Core 2.4 GHZ or AMD Dual Core 2.6 GHZ, or better
2GB System RAM
NVIDIA® GeForce 8600 GT 512MB RAM
or AMD Radeon? HD 3400 512MB RAM
Low Recommended Specs
Windows 7/Vista/XP PC (32 or 64 bit)
Intel Dual Core 3GHz or AMD equivalent
3GB System RAM
NVIDIA® GeForce 450 512MB RAM
or AMD Radeon? HD 4870 512MB RAM
At this level, you will be able to comfortably run the game at 30 frames per second with a 1920 by 1080 screen resolution.
High Recommended Specs
Windows 7/Vista (32 or 64 bit)
Intel i7 Quad Core 2.8Ghz or AMD equivalent
3GB System RAM
NVIDIA® GeForce 480 1GB RAM
or AMD Radeon? HD 5870 1GB RAM
At this level, you will be able to comfortably run the game at 60 fps at 1920 by 1080.
Highest Tested Specs
Windows 7/Vista (64 bit)
Intel i7 3930K 6 Core x 3.06 GHZ
or AMD FX8150 8 Core x 3.6 GHZ
16GB System RAM
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680 2GB RAM
or AMD Radeon? HD 7970 3GB RAM
What are you doing to take advantage of the powerful hardware available in a PC?
As you can see from the specs list above, we?ve worked hard to make sure the game will run smoothly on a wide range of PC builds. But it?s when you get towards the top end of that range that you can really push a game to its limits, and the game will look and run incredibly on the most advanced current machines around at the moment and well into the near future.
You?ll find that screen resolution is scalable, there?s triple and even sextuple monitor support which helps to run higher screen resolutions, there?s various anti-aliasing options, scalable water quality, scalable shadow quality, increased detail for characters and vehicles and a scalable texture filter that further increases visual quality. We?re also supporting DX11 with Max Payne 3, with features including Hull/Tessellation/Domain Shaders (which adds curvature to the character/vehicle models), Gather4 (for optimized shadow sampling / FXAA), Geometry shader / Stream Output and DX11 texture samplers to name a few.
As you can tell, there?s a lot for PC fans with higher-spec hardware to sink their teeth in to.
14.5GB for both PS3 and 360.Does anyone here know how big are the console versions of Max Payne 3? Any links? Because I still find it hard to justify the whole 35GB of the PC version.
Anyone?shalashaska88
I god hope so. I say it's time to leave all those people that belong in the stone age behind. Complaining about 35 gigs? Come on people, that wasn't even an issue 4-5 years ago for me.Textures are 4x the size as they are on console. That plus uncompressed audio and 1080p cut scenes add up to 35 gig.
It actually looks like Rockstar have put in a decent effort this time for us PC gamers.
FGMPR
It's not worth complaining about the size anymore. There are 3TB hard drives for about £120.
Max Payne 3 is the game that shows Microsoft's silly mistake. They should have utilised Blu-ray in the Xbox 360. Even some other games ships with 2 or more discs on the console, so Max Payne 3 is not the only one.
They should have utilised Blu-ray in the Xbox 360. GamerwillzPSYeah, that way we can stuck with mandatory installs in order to make up for the piss-poor read speed.
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]They should have utilised Blu-ray in the Xbox 360. Stevo_the_gamerYeah, that way we can stuck with mandatory installs in order to make up for the piss-poor read speed.
The only reason there aren't mandatory installs for more games on 360 isn't because they use DVD format, but because the Arcade model doesn't have a hard drive. Otherwise developers would very much add more installs to improve their games.
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]They should have utilised Blu-ray in the Xbox 360. Stevo_the_gamerYeah, that way we can stuck with mandatory installs in order to make up for the piss-poor read speed.
Not a problem, I'm a patient guy. I can just go and make a cup of coffee while my PS3 is installing or go outside and breathe some nice fresh air.
I'd rather to have mandatory installs than having to swap damn discs all the time.
Yeah, that way we can stuck with mandatory installs in order to make up for the piss-poor read speed.[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]They should have utilised Blu-ray in the Xbox 360. GamerwillzPS
Not a problem, I'm a patient guy. I can just go and make a cup of coffee while my PS3 is installing or go outside and breathe some nice fresh air.
I'd rather to have mandatory installs than having to swap damn discs all the time.
Waiting 5-20 minutes, and getting up to get a coffee isn't a problem but taking the 30 seconds to switch a disk is a problem? Good gravy.Very rarely do we see this happen even on PS3 with their mandatory installs (installing: improving graphics). The installs have to do with loading game assets, not graphics. DVD and Blu-ray are just storage mediums.The only reason there aren't mandatory installs for more games on 360 isn't because they use DVD format, but because the Arcade model doesn't have a hard drive. Otherwise developers would very much add more installs to improve their games.
SPYDER0416
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]Very rarely do we see this happen even on PS3 with their mandatory installs (installing: improving graphics). The installs have to do with loading game assets, not graphics. DVD and Blu-ray are just storage mediums. The graphics can be affected by the ability to load data into RAM, when streaming is involved.The only reason there aren't mandatory installs for more games on 360 isn't because they use DVD format, but because the Arcade model doesn't have a hard drive. Otherwise developers would very much add more installs to improve their games.
Stevo_the_gamer
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] Yeah, that way we can stuck with mandatory installs in order to make up for the piss-poor read speed.Stevo_the_gamer
Not a problem, I'm a patient guy. I can just go and make a cup of coffee while my PS3 is installing or go outside and breathe some nice fresh air.
I'd rather to have mandatory installs than having to swap damn discs all the time.
Waiting 5-20 minutes, and getting up to get a coffee isn't a problem but taking the 30 seconds to switch a disk is a problem? Good gravy.Lol.
Wouldn't you mind if the game pauses and asks you to change the disc when you are having an intense moment in the game? It would be like your mum walking in your bedroom and interrupt you when you are winning in a race! I'd be pissed!
I have to show you this.
Wouldn't you mind if the game pauses and asks you to change the disc when you are having an intense moment in the game?
GamerwillzPS
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Wouldn't you mind if the game pauses and asks you to change the disc when you are having an intense moment in the game?
freedomfreak
Care to explain?
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
Wouldn't you mind if the game pauses and asks you to change the disc when you are having an intense moment in the game?
GamerwillzPS
Care to explain?
You never have to switch discs during an intense moment. Never happened with the games I've played,that had multiple discs :|[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]
You would be right,if you weren't wrong. :|freedomfreak
Care to explain?
You never have to switch discs during an intense moment. Never happened with the games I've played,that had multiple discs :|You would have to keep changing the disc ALL the time. On PS3, you just install once and off you go. I do know which I would prefer.
I see the lack of a retort telling. Besides, I'll address your sidestep anyways. That wouldn't happen, and even then, you're assuming no one interrupts their game at a time to get something to drink, or eat, or take a piss--or in your case, get a cup of coffee...Lol.
Wouldn't you mind if the game pauses and asks you to change the disc when you are having an intense moment in the game? It would be like your mum walking in your bedroom and interrupt you when you are winning in a race! I'd be pissed!
I have to show you this.
GamerwillzPS
You never have to switch discs during an intense moment. Never happened with the games I've played,that had multiple discs :|[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
Care to explain?
GamerwillzPS
You would have to keep changing the disc ALL the time. On PS3, you just install once and off you go. I do know which I would prefer.
That's cool. Except it doesn't really have anything to do with what you said :|Why are you guys freaking out? Big HDDs are cheap. I remember my early PC gaming days on laptops before I had a desktop with 100/120 GB HDDs. Boy did that space get eaten up quick by my games.
PC_Otter
I know. I don't have a problem with mandatory installs, only Lems say otherwise to justify their disadvantage.
It would be a right pain to keep swapping the disc.
[QUOTE="PC_Otter"]
Why are you guys freaking out? Big HDDs are cheap. I remember my early PC gaming days on laptops before I had a desktop with 100/120 GB HDDs. Boy did that space get eaten up quick by my games.
GamerwillzPS
I know. I don't have a problem with mandatory installs, only Lems say otherwise to justify their disadvantage.
It would be a right pain to keep swapping the disc.
Multiple disks is an inconvenience, just like mandatory installs...[QUOTE="PC_Otter"]
Why are you guys freaking out? Big HDDs are cheap. I remember my early PC gaming days on laptops before I had a desktop with 100/120 GB HDDs. Boy did that space get eaten up quick by my games.
GamerwillzPS
I know. I don't have a problem with mandatory installs, only Lems say otherwise to justify their disadvantage.
It would be a right pain to keep swapping the disc.
With a console with an HDD, you can have it dual load off the HDD and disc and make the most of your storage hardware. It will load faster. The HDD acts as a cache too, to help cope with the large amounts of RAM needed for some types of games like Oblivion. It was generally the first current gen title to need an HDD for decent performance. No HDD meant slow downs and choppiness..........[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"][QUOTE="PC_Otter"]
Why are you guys freaking out? Big HDDs are cheap. I remember my early PC gaming days on laptops before I had a desktop with 100/120 GB HDDs. Boy did that space get eaten up quick by my games.
Stevo_the_gamer
I know. I don't have a problem with mandatory installs, only Lems say otherwise to justify their disadvantage.
It would be a right pain to keep swapping the disc.
Multiple disks is an inconvenience, just like mandatory installs...In my point of view, disc swapping is a bigger inconvenience because you would have to change the disc if you want to do certain things in the game as the content is missing in the disc you are using. On PS3, you can access to the entire content. Mandatory installs only occur at the beginning.
So, do you download all your games off PSN, or is console gaming as a whole a major inconvenience?In my point of view, disc swapping is a bigger inconvenience because you would have to change the disc if you want to do certain things in the game as the content is missing in the disc you are using. On PS3, you can access to the entire content. Mandatory installs only occur at the beginning.
GamerwillzPS
For these days, a single install at the beginning is nothing to fret over. I'm a PC gamer, I know all about installs...........though installs on console take FOREVER sometimes, even if it's only 4 GB or so. The much faster HDDs and DVD drives on PC just drive through pretty quickly, even for large games.In my point of view, disc swapping is a bigger inconvenience because you would have to change the disc if you want to do certain things in the game as the content is missing in the disc you are using. On PS3, you can access to the entire content. Mandatory installs only occur at the beginning.
GamerwillzPS
So, do you download all your games off PSN, or is console gaming as a whole a major inconvenience?[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
In my point of view, disc swapping is a bigger inconvenience because you would have to change the disc if you want to do certain things in the game as the content is missing in the disc you are using. On PS3, you can access to the entire content. Mandatory installs only occur at the beginning.
Stevo_the_gamer
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
You disk swap to change games, or do you not play games?I don't understand what you are trying to say.
GamerwillzPS
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