The people have spoken and they voted YES to motion controlls!!!

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#1 alexfla
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I know some of you are confused about all this motion control craze and may even resent it. You may feel as if it is threatening hardcore gaming as we know it and as a result we have to fight back against it before it's too late.

But you have to understand that the people have spoken, they have voted overwhelmingly in favor of motion controls. They voted with their wallets and that's why the Wii is such a success. Sure they may be casual gamers but they love to play exercise games and to play dance games and to have a blast with shallow mini games, so what?

Do you really think Sony and Microsoft is going to ignore such a MASSIVE AND UNANIMOUS OUTCRY for these specific type of games and controls? Of course not and that is why you have now Move and soon Kinect.

I have made it clear that I prefer Kinect. I have stated my reasons but i'll try it again. First it's actually cheaper. Especially if you buy a bundle like I will. I'm going to get the $299 bundle and that really leaves me Kinect for $50 because you know the 4 GB slim is $200 and Kinect adventures is $50 so another $50 for the camera and it's a great deal. I never have to buy another piece of hardware to complete Kinect.

WIth Move you go at your own pace but TODAY RIGHT NOW it doesn't really make sense. Maybe by holiday 2011 it will be different. By then maybe the controllers will be cheaper and it will be easier to complete the package. But right now if you want to play a local 2 player game, you need 4 Move lolipop controllers. That will run you $200 right there. Plus another $40 for the camera and each Nav is $30. Also if you don't already own a PS3 then the cheapest Move bundle is $400 and it only includes just ONE lolipop and not even a Nav controller. WAAAY too expensive for no games right now. Maybe in the future things will change.

Another thing about Move that I don't like is that it's EXACTLY THE SAME as the Wii motion plus. Yea I know the graphics are much better but what happens if Nintendo announces the Wii HD next year?

In my opinion Nintendo is planning a MASSIVE UNVEIL of Wii HD at next years E3. Why didn't they do it this year? Because they didn't want it to interfere with the 3DS announcement and launch. Nintendo is very careful about that.

So now let me ask you, what exactly will Move have once the Wii HD has been released? The Wii HD will have MUCH BETTER GRAPHICS and will also have possibly IMPROVED motion controls over what the Move offers. And it will be fully compatible with the regular Wii. And because it's only marketed as the Wii HD, Nintendo can also launch a MUCH BEEFIER Wii 2 to go against the PS4 and Xbox 720 if they have to later on.

Kinect is really something truly new and Nintendo doesn't really have an answer for it. Also Microsoft is smart because they are really treating this as a new console launch and investing heavily here. And the price is right with an entry level Kinect bundle for only $300 and next year they can easily drop the price if the Wii HD comes around.

Finally i'd like to mention the fact that us hardcore gamers have also voted. We have voted with our wallets as well that we love hardcore games. Do not think for one second that Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft has ignored us. Why do you think Nintendo, the SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT US MOTION CONTROLS AND CASUALS LOVE is now going big with the hardcore games? Because our votes have been tallied and we will get the hardcore games that we want.

As big a seller as the new casual market is, the hardcore market is even bigger. Just take a look at Halo Reach or Modern Warfare 2 sales as evidence. Right now, casual games don't come close.

So, how many of you are going to embrace this new *option* available to us gamers and buy one of the new motion control devices of choice?

For one, i'm buying Kinect on day one.

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#2 HelloMoto56
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i'm starting to believe you are a representative from Microsoft.

because you sure have been trying to sell us Kinect for the past few days while trying to give us "reasons" to not be interested in the Playstation Move.

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#3 Vari3ty
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Why don't you just blog this?

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#4 Alias_Nemesis
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This topic title should have been "I have spoken and voted to YES to Kinect!!!" :?

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[QUOTE="alexfla"] I know some of you are confused about all this motion control craze and may even resent it. You may feel as if it is threatening hardcore gaming as we know it and as a result we have to fight back against it before it's too late.... I have made it clear that I prefer Kinect. I have stated my reasons but i'll try it again.... First it's actually cheaper. Especially if you buy a bundle like I will. I'm going to get the $299 bundle and that really leaves me Kinect for $50 because you know the 4 GB slim is $200 and Kinect adventures is $50 so another $50 for the camera and it's a great deal. ... Another thing about Move that I don't like is that it's EXACTLY THE SAME as the Wii motion plus. Yea I know the graphics are much better but what happens if Nintendo announces the Wii HD next year?

Wow. You are so contradicting. You say you love hardcore games, and you say you choose connect over move. You state that hard core games are Cod and Halo: reach. Alright, lets say that the games were build around working with Kinect and Move. With move, you would be able to simply control your character with the nav control and the "lollipop". How would you do it with kinect? Point your fingers and scream 'Bang'? I will say there will be no 'hardcore' shooters ever made with Kinect compatibility. Here, your argument is lost for me. But lets check out your other statements. Ok... you say that kinect is 50$ because of the bundle which includes the game... ok... I would not consider Kinect Adventures a standalone title, nor would I consider wii sports orfor that matter Sports champion. Its the game they give you to demo the things. Lets look at PS3 bundle price. At the present time the lowest end 160gb PS3 is at 299$. The Move bundle comes with The eyetoy, Sports champions, the 'lollipop' and a 250gb PS3 for 399$.. Compare that to the stock 250gb at 350$, you are paying 50$ total for the move bundle, a full 50% off the retail price. With no bundle, the net cost is, (Eyetoy, 39.99) + ( Lollipop Controller, 49.99) + (Sports Champions, 39.99) = 130$. If you want to talk about deals, the Playstation bundle takes the show. Your first part of your last quote is also irrelevant. You have obviously NOT played the playstation move. The controls feel SO much more smooth and fluid the the wii, even with WM+. Going back to the price war, At launch, Nintento charged 50$ for their wii-mote. And with this, you NEED the nunchuck if you want to play anything above mini games. At that time, nunchucks were 20 or 30$. This leaves the wii-motes costing 70$ a piece at launch. This is the same price you will pay for a PS move controller set up. Now, that price of the wii-mote was before the WM+ came out. Add 20$ to each set up and you are near 90$ per wii-mote. PS move just game out and it is less. Move is far superior to Wii in controls, no argument. Now. you say 'what if the wii HD comes out', well honestly, do if its going to be 100-150$ do you think its going to compete with PS3 graphics? No way in hell. This is also adding a hefty price on to each wii, and making the wii cost 350$ new. Not a fan favorable. Conclusion: You are completely bias twords Kinect, a system which has shown no aspects to the 'hardcore' games you say we cling to. Now, when Kinect comes out and next year Halo 5 is made so you can jump and point your finger gun to kill Aliens I will eat my words. Intill then, Kinect is just a Gimmicky version of what the Eyetoy was to PS2 four years ago. Hardcore motion gaming will reign with Playstation.
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#7 ChubbyGuy40
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They did say yes to motion controls....THAT HAVE AN ACTUAL CONTROLLER. Why do you think Sony copied Nintendo instead of reusing the Eyetoy?

Kinect will revolutionize nothing. It will not be a success. Go away.

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#8 gamefan67
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Im not going to bother to read all that text, so I'll just make a snappy remark. Of course the people have said yes to motion controls, that is why The Wii is in the league.