The problem with Marvel vs Capcom 3

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#1 Sonwhy
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I have seen the character list for the game and there is only like 20 characters. I think that hints at a major problem. There ought to be about 80 or 100 hundred fighters in the game. Other than that the game looks great.

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#2 bobcheeseball
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80-100 characters?? I know MvC2 had a lot of characters but not 80-100 that's an incredibly unrealistic expectation

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#3 LegatoSkyheart
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80-100?

That's overkill man. I thought Capcom said that it would have a little over 32 characters. not 80-100!

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#4 Mario1331
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they already showed half the roster its only suppose to be about 32-35 characters

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#5 RobBourne
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80-100?

First of all the game would be a mess and the tier list would be more broken than MvC2. They also have to re-do all the character models because I'm not sure if you're aware, but they don't have any character models for the characters except Street Fighter.

Why are people so obsessed with large numbers? I guess MAG is the best shooter ever hands down..

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#6 the-obiwan
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the real problem is the art graphics, wayyyyy too 3d i dont like the SF4 + tatsunoko style for MVC 3 , i mean what the hell happend wif the anime 2d+3d ish style that it was know for ?
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#7 ryetech
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I have seen the character list for the game and there is only like 20 characters. I think that hints at a major problem. There ought to be about 80 or 100 hundred fighters in the game. Other than that the game looks great.

Sonwhy
There is no "Character list"
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#8 erglesmergle
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the real problem is the art graphics, wayyyyy too 3d i dont like the SF4 + tatsunoko style for MVC 3 , i mean what the hell happend wif the anime 2d+3d ish style that it was know for ?the-obiwan

the future happened boy. it doesnt look 2.5d enough.

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#9 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"]the real problem is the art graphics, wayyyyy too 3d i dont like the SF4 + tatsunoko style for MVC 3 , i mean what the hell happend wif the anime 2d+3d ish style that it was know for ?erglesmergle

the future happened boy. it doesnt look 2.5d enough.

so its not mvc anymore
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#10 IppoTenma
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Screw MvC. No Phoinex Wright? Not interested.
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#11 Sonwhy
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80-100 characters?? I know MvC2 had a lot of characters but not 80-100 that's an incredibly unrealistic expectation

bobcheeseball

Is it? Marvel vs Capcom 2 had over 60 characters.

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#12 RobBourne
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="the-obiwan"]the real problem is the art graphics, wayyyyy too 3d i dont like the SF4 + tatsunoko style for MVC 3 , i mean what the hell happend wif the anime 2d+3d ish style that it was know for ?the-obiwan

the future happened boy. it doesnt look 2.5d enough.

so its not mvc anymore

Yeah, because the dimension a game is in determines what it is. Screw the gameplay, screw the developer, screw the title, screw the roster.

If it's not a super pixelated 2D fighter with bland backgrounds it's not MvC!

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#13 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

the future happened boy. it doesnt look 2.5d enough.

RobBourne

so its not mvc anymore

Yeah, because the dimension a game is in determines what it is. Screw the gameplay, screw the developer, screw the title, screw the roster.

If it's not a super pixelated 2D fighter with bland backgrounds it's not MvC!

im glad we agreed (:
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#14 C-Lee
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If Venom is in the game, I'm happy.
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#15 ithilgore2006
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So have you ever played a fighting game before?
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#16 RobBourne
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If Venom is in the game, I'm happy.C-Lee

Prepare to be disappointed.

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#17 Yo-gan
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

80-100 characters?? I know MvC2 had a lot of characters but not 80-100 that's an incredibly unrealistic expectation

Sonwhy

Is it? Marvel vs Capcom 2 had over 60 characters.

I'd be suprised if they didn't surpass MVC 2's roster. 80 - 100 may be a bit too much but i can see it having over 60. Maybe around the 70 mark?
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#18 C-Lee
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"]If Venom is in the game, I'm happy.RobBourne

Prepare to be disappointed.

:cry: Do you have a source? jw.
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#19 Kahuna_1
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Wait, they arent carrying over the old roster and expanding it? Damn, that sucks.

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#20 JuarN18
Member since 2007 • 4981 Posts

Wait, they arent carrying over the old roster and expanding it? Damn, that sucks.

Kahuna_1

the old unbalanced roster?

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#21 -The-G-Man-
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The problem with Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is that I'm not playing it right now.
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#22 Slywolf10
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wow 80 to 100 characters? The game would be even less balanced then Mvc2.

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#23 RobBourne
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[QUOTE="RobBourne"]

[QUOTE="C-Lee"]If Venom is in the game, I'm happy.C-Lee

Prepare to be disappointed.

:cry: Do you have a source? jw.

Well there's only space for 15 Marvel characters, if I'm not mistaken, they've already announced 8. There's 7 more, I just don't see how Venom fits. There's more popular characters and if anyone makes it, it's going to be Spiderman just due to popularity.

Also, I couldn't find it but I remember reading an article somewhere that Activision wouldn't give Capcom permission to use Spiderman. (Yes it's a Marvel character but they have an agreement with Activision where he can only appear in their games)

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#24 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"][QUOTE="RobBourne"]

Prepare to be disappointed.

RobBourne

:cry: Do you have a source? jw.

Well there's only space for 15 Marvel characters, if I'm not mistaken, they've already announced 8. There's 7 more, I just don't see how Venom fits. There's more popular characters and if anyone makes it, it's going to be Spiderman just due to popularity.

Also, I couldn't find it but I remember reading an article somewhere that Activision wouldn't give Capcom permission to use Spiderman. (Yes it's a Marvel character but they have an agreement with Activision where he can only appear in their games)

spiderman is in the game his shilouette is already shown

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#25 bc1391
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Not even the videogame gods can make a game with 80-100 characters balanced.

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#26 ActicEdge
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The only problems I see with Marvel vs Capcom is that it basically looks like Tatsunoko vs Capcom and its not out. I can live with those 2 problems :)

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#27 The__Havoc
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I have seen the character list for the game and there is only like 20 characters. I think that hints at a major problem. There ought to be about 80 or 100 hundred fighters in the game. Other than that the game looks great.

Sonwhy

And how are you supposed to balance a game with that many characters.....

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#28 jasonharris48
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I'm glad it has a small roster compared to MvC2. I didn't use most of the characters in part 2 and plus it was pretty unbalanced.

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#29 smokingsbad
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Screw MvC. No Phoinex Wright? Not interested. IppoTenma
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#30 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

I have seen the character list for the game and there is only like 20 characters. I think that hints at a major problem. There ought to be about 80 or 100 hundred fighters in the game. Other than that the game looks great.

The__Havoc

And how are you supposed to balance a game with that many characters.....

Not every character has to be as balanced as the next character. Kind of like Street Fighter where not every character is equal to Sagat but some people will still use a character just because they like that character. Or it could be that someone uses a character because they know they are not as good as their opponents character but maybe they are looking for a challenge.

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#31 bobaban
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"][QUOTE="RobBourne"]

Prepare to be disappointed.

RobBourne

:cry: Do you have a source? jw.

Well there's only space for 15 Marvel characters, if I'm not mistaken, they've already announced 8. There's 7 more, I just don't see how Venom fits. There's more popular characters and if anyone makes it, it's going to be Spiderman just due to popularity.

Also, I couldn't find it but I remember reading an article somewhere that Activision wouldn't give Capcom permission to use Spiderman. (Yes it's a Marvel character but they have an agreement with Activision where he can only appear in their games)

It's very possible Spidey will get a second rep, it just might not be Venom.
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#32 lamprey263
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don't worry, maybe Capcom will make an Super MVC3 and add 5 more characters, a Super-duper MVC3 with an additional 5 characters, and 3 games later they'll be halfway to where you want it
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#33 jasonharris48
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don't worry, maybe Capcom will make an Super MVC3 and add 5 more characters, a Super-duper MVC3 with an additional 5 characters, and 3 games later they'll be halfway to where you want itlamprey263
When have they ever done a "super" version to any of their vs titles?

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#34 lamprey263
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]don't worry, maybe Capcom will make an Super MVC3 and add 5 more characters, a Super-duper MVC3 with an additional 5 characters, and 3 games later they'll be halfway to where you want itjasonharris48

When have they ever done a "super" version to any of their vs titles?

never, which is why I said "maybe", I wouldn't put it completely past Capcom to recycle a game (e.g. Lost Planet Colonies, Dead Rising Chop Till You Drop, RE5 Gold, Super SFIV, Okami, RE4 Wii Edition, Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil), it's been their strategy after they closed Clover Studios and other senior Capcom staff left with them
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#35 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]don't worry, maybe Capcom will make an Super MVC3 and add 5 more characters, a Super-duper MVC3 with an additional 5 characters, and 3 games later they'll be halfway to where you want itlamprey263

When have they ever done a "super" version to any of their vs titles?

never, which is why I said "maybe", I wouldn't put it completely past Capcom to recycle a game (e.g. Lost Planet Colonies, Dead Rising Chop Till You Drop, RE5 Gold, Super SFIV, Okami, RE4 Wii Edition, Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil), it's been their strategy after they closed Clover Studios and other senior Capcom staff left with them

Well don't give them ideas now lol

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#36 VendettaRed07
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No the REAL problem with this game is that the sprites are HUGE... They are even bigger than they are in super street fighter 4, they take up the whole freaking screen ... And I mean a game that is all about throwing other characters up in the air thats a really big problem. Also they screwed up the controls BIG TIME.. I hear there isnt even a difference between punch and kick buttons, its just light medium and heavy attacks, a launch button, and two assissts... If thats true I really dont even think Im going to buy this game it just sounds so bleh

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#37 Mario1331
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No the REAL problem with this game is that the sprites are HUGE... They are even bigger than they are in super street fighter 4, they take up the whole freaking screen ... And I mean a game that is all about throwing other characters up in the air thats a really big problem. Also they screwed up the controls BIG TIME.. I hear there isnt even a difference between punch and kick buttons, its just light medium and heavy attacks, a launch button, and two assissts... If thats true I really dont even think Im going to buy this game it just sounds so bleh

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its like TvsC which fighting system is superb so dont worry

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#38 RoOodriGowW
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

80-100 characters?? I know MvC2 had a lot of characters but not 80-100 that's an incredibly unrealistic expectation

Yo-gan

Is it? Marvel vs Capcom 2 had over 60 characters.

I'd be suprised if they didn't surpass MVC 2's roster. 80 - 100 may be a bit too much but i can see it having over 60. Maybe around the 70 mark?

Sorry to burst your bubble but it's known that it will have 30-35 characters.My opinion?They'll release more through DLC - unlikely - or release a super mvc3.

And yeah I was pissed when I found that out cause , like you , I've been spoiled by all those characters in mvc2 .

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#39 TSNAKE617
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And, just like in SSF4, people will only use a dozen of them. That's my problem when people complain about fighting games that don't have a ton of characters. Only a few of them get used anyway.

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#41 Yo-gan
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[QUOTE="Yo-gan"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

Is it? Marvel vs Capcom 2 had over 60 characters.

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I'd be suprised if they didn't surpass MVC 2's roster. 80 - 100 may be a bit too much but i can see it having over 60. Maybe around the 70 mark?

Sorry to burst your bubble but it's known that it will have 30-35 characters.My opinion?They'll release more through DLC - unlikely - or release a super mvc3.

And yeah I was pissed when I found that out cause , like you , I've been spoiled by all those characters in mvc2 .

Boourns, consider my bubble burst! :( Did they confrim the 30 -35 sized roster at E3? I must have missed it. Oh well at least Dante is in it
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#42 RoOodriGowW
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And, just like in SSF4, people will only use a dozen of them. That's my problem when people complain about fighting games that don't have a ton of characters. Only a few of them get used anyway.

TSNAKE617

Not everybody.Of course if I'm playing online I will use one , maybe 2 characters which are the ones I'm most skilled with.But when friends come over to play we never repeat the same char.So it's nice to have lots of char , it's fun.

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#43 RoOodriGowW
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[QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

[QUOTE="Yo-gan"] I'd be suprised if they didn't surpass MVC 2's roster. 80 - 100 may be a bit too much but i can see it having over 60. Maybe around the 70 mark?Yo-gan

Sorry to burst your bubble but it's known that it will have 30-35 characters.My opinion?They'll release more through DLC - unlikely - or release a super mvc3.

And yeah I was pissed when I found that out cause , like you , I've been spoiled by all those characters in mvc2 .

Boourns, consider my bubble burst! :( Did they confrim the 30 -35 sized roster at E3? I must have missed it. Oh well at least Dante is in it

Yeah actually by the time it was announced everybody knew it would be 15 marvel 15 capcom , making it 30.But some people here are talking about 32 , 35 , so , to avoid mistakes, I'm using the 30-35 range.Oh Dante ftw , Trish too. 8)

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#44 Mercenary848
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I have seen the character list for the game and there is only like 20 characters. I think that hints at a major problem. There ought to be about 80 or 100 hundred fighters in the game. Other than that the game looks great.

Sonwhy

God no that is way to much, and most would be shallow clones.