The PS Vita isn't a half-bad Internet tablet, but is marred by Sony.

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#1 The_Capitalist
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I bought the Assassin's Creed PS Vita bundle during Black Friday on Amazon for $180 and it has finally arrived on my doorstep. I upgraded it to the latest firmware before I got going on it.

Firstly, I am very surprised that the Vita comes with quite a few applications beyond the standard web browser: Skype, Netflix, Youtube, Twitter, an e-mail client, Foursquare, to name a few. While the application selection pales in comparison where a real mobile OS is concerned, I appreciate that these applications are on there, and they cover a good majority of my needs from an Internet-enabled handheld device. Only thing missing is a good banking application, access to cloud synchronization services like Dropbox and Skydrive, and Paypal, but I don't do too much of either anyway.

If Sony can just open up application development to third parties, eliminate the use of proprietary memory, lower the price, and mount some better cameras onto the thing, I can easily see the Vita being a stiff competitor to devices like the iPod Touch.

The PS Vita demonstrates much promise - only if Sony taps into its fullest potential.

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The PS Vita is an excellent device in all regards, and it could be highly successful in multiple markets, but Sony's mismanagement is what is causing all of its issues.
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It's because it's stuck squarely between markets that its floundering. People looking for a tablet have tons of better options. Many even cheaper. People looking for a gaming device are left wanting for compelling games to play, that they can't play on a console.
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It's because it's stuck squarely between markets that its floundering. People looking for a tablet have tons of better options. Many even cheaper. People looking for a gaming device are left wanting for compelling games to play, that they can't play on a console.darkspineslayer

For $180, I consider the Vita to be a surprising good Internet tablet for its price. Plus, it can play more complex games than a regular smartphone or tablet can.

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To bad I would rather play games. I have my IPad for my tablet. I want my Vita for the games.
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#6 danish-death
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I said this several months ago. If only Sony had 2 different size versions (in a world where the useless 3g one doesn't exist) with the regular costing $200 and an XL version costing $250 that could double as a tablet to browse the web. Along with PS Mobile they be better at taking on some of the real tablets. If only the browser wasn't sh1t that is.
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The PS Vita is an excellent device in all regards, and it could be highly successful in multiple markets, but Sony's mismanagement is what is causing all of its issues.charizard1605
They mismanagement almost hurts my brain. Say, where did that Vita Heaven go?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]The PS Vita is an excellent device in all regards, and it could be highly successful in multiple markets, but Sony's mismanagement is what is causing all of its issues.danish-death
They mismanagement almost hurts my brain. Say, where did that Vita Heaven go?

It disappeared along with all the planned games for the system xD
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If Sony can just open up application development to third parties, eliminate the use of proprietary memory, lower the price, and mount some better cameras onto the thing, I can easily see the Vita being a stiff competitor to devices like the iPod Touch.

The PS Vita demonstrates much promise - only if Sony taps into its fullest potential.

The_Capitalist

I'm sure Sony is planning a new PS Vita slim which will require a new type of memory stick, be made of cheap plastic, have no front camera, and only cost a measly $279.99 when it releases :)

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I definitely would've gotten it for 180 bucks. Here you're not getting one below 230 euro's, if even that. No black friday sales either. *Sigh*.
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Yeah we know but how long will we continue to blame Sony before they actually do anything about it or Vita dies?
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[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]The PS Vita is an excellent device in all regards, and it could be highly successful in multiple markets, but Sony's mismanagement is what is causing all of its issues.charizard1605
They mismanagement almost hurts my brain. Say, where did that Vita Heaven go?

It disappeared along with all the planned games for the system xD

I could make a semi-long list of games that were supposed to be in production for the Vita, it's rather sad really. :p
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]It's because it's stuck squarely between markets that its floundering. People looking for a tablet have tons of better options. Many even cheaper. People looking for a gaming device are left wanting for compelling games to play, that they can't play on a console.

I don't feel that way. I would even rate vita games better than psp's so far. Psp might have had more variety in its 1st year.
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How is it mismanaged? Commercials I can see but otherwise I am happier with the games than I was on psp. I got my shooters and hack n slash faster. Though there isn't a skateboarding games yet so its not all pros.
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How is it mismanaged? Commercials I can see but otherwise I am happier with the games than I was on psp. I got my shooters and hack n slash faster. Though there isn't a skateboarding games yet so its not all pros.p4s2p0


Sony is all over the place with the Vita. They had quite a lot of system-selling games such as Rockstar game, Shin Megami Tensei and Yakuza coming for it. We probably won't see those. They failed to acquire Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid (even multiplats).

We also still haven't seen sh1t about Dragon's Crown and Warrior's Lair (former Ruin) - which should've already been released.

Some of the games they've released so far are rather questionable such as Resistance Burning Skies and CoD: Declassified - both games that could have and should have been much better (Resistance Retribution for the PSP wasn't a bad game and score well on this board).

Overall I feel as if Sony has no clue as how to acquire the right games for the console and to keep developers already acquired to stay/keep developing.

Talking commercials and advertisement Sony is generally in a dimension to themselves, that's how sh1tty they're doing their job. I don't think there has been a single PSV commercial on TV since the launch earlier this year. Even when something new releases for it nobody knows about it because Sony does jacksh1t about it. Again, this is just Sony in general - I've seen a commercial about Wonderbook today, but one does have to wonder where the Playstation All star one is.

Sony generally fails to capture their audience and to capture the industri as whole. Nobody gives a damn thing about the console because Sony doesn't appear to do so either. Want proof? Just look at this year's E3 and TGS. It was as if they were completely unaware about what they needed to do.Bu, bu but the games announced at TGS? Most of them were either ports, remakes or niche games that wouldn't do anything for it.

The land of the handhelds - Japan - appears to care even less about it at this point. It's not necessarily the price point of the console or the memory cards, no - they've already shown us that if Sony brings the right games they're on. However, whatever these games might do for the console it's usually short lived and fails to do anything that matters, especially because the games have been spread out with months in between.

There are tons of issues with the PS Vita at this point. If it doesn't get discontinued some time nexy year it'll just end up being a niche product with a low amount of games available for it (in the future).
How is it mismanaged? Commercials I can see but otherwise I am happier with the games than I was on psp. I got my shooters and hack n slash faster. Though there isn't a skateboarding games yet so its not all pros.p4s2p0


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Yeah we know but how long will we continue to blame Sony before they actually do anything about it or Vita dies?SaltyMeatballs
If you think that the vita is going to "die" your a fool. I bet you were one who was crying out about the ps3 dying. Look how that turned out...
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The PS Vita is an excellent device in all regards, and it could be highly successful in multiple markets, but Sony's mismanagement is what is causing all of its issues.charizard1605
Thats the thing, i think even the most nintendo fanboys would agree that HARDWARE WISE vita is the best handheld ever. But problems even a vita supporter like me must admit are the memory card issue, high price, and the horrific marketting. Game wise its actually not doing terribly games, when u really get down to it, it was the Japanese consumer reaction to vita that scared devs away, not Sony. Those Japs were never gonna buy vita if they couldnt play monster hunter on it haha, so i guess only mistake Sony really made there was not getting a Monster Hunter game for launch. The recovery for vita is actually quite simple. Within next year they should drop the price, throw a 4 gig mem stick into each box, give the Japs a Monster Hunter game, and give Americans the Bioshock game they promised. Problem solved
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]The PS Vita is an excellent device in all regards, and it could be highly successful in multiple markets, but Sony's mismanagement is what is causing all of its issues.ms555
Thats the thing, i think even the most nintendo fanboys would agree that HARDWARE WISE vita is the best handheld ever. But problems even a vita supporter like me must admit are the memory card issue, high price, and the horrific marketting. Game wise its actually not doing terribly games, when u really get down to it, it was the Japanese consumer reaction to vita that scared devs away, not Sony. Those Japs were never gonna buy vita if they couldnt play monster hunter on it haha, so i guess only mistake Sony really made there was not getting a Monster Hunter game for launch. The recovery for vita is actually quite simple. Within next year they should drop the price, throw a 4 gig mem stick into each box, give the Japs a Monster Hunter game, and give Americans the Bioshock game they promised. Problem solved

Its so stupid that 1 or 2 games completely control the handheld market in Japan.

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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]The PS Vita is an excellent device in all regards, and it could be highly successful in multiple markets, but Sony's mismanagement is what is causing all of its issues.crimsonman1245

Thats the thing, i think even the most nintendo fanboys would agree that HARDWARE WISE vita is the best handheld ever. But problems even a vita supporter like me must admit are the memory card issue, high price, and the horrific marketting. Game wise its actually not doing terribly games, when u really get down to it, it was the Japanese consumer reaction to vita that scared devs away, not Sony. Those Japs were never gonna buy vita if they couldnt play monster hunter on it haha, so i guess only mistake Sony really made there was not getting a Monster Hunter game for launch. The recovery for vita is actually quite simple. Within next year they should drop the price, throw a 4 gig mem stick into each box, give the Japs a Monster Hunter game, and give Americans the Bioshock game they promised. Problem solved

Its so stupid that 1 or 2 games completely control the handheld market in Japan.

Its sad but its true. And what people have misunderstood since before vita was even out was that the vita was never gonna stand a chance against 3ds in Japan no matter what Sony did, cus the Japs are just way too loyal to Monster Hunter, Mario, and Pokemon. Sony has always appealed more to western gamers, and honestly Sony actually would have saved themselves issues if they did a worldwide launch on the same day. Cus all the issues now with vita, its all politics now ignited about the Japs' reaction to vita.
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People are just being too harsh on vita. Psp got way more sales and I played ports for most of the 1st year. When on vita I haven't.
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]How is it mismanaged? Commercials I can see but otherwise I am happier with the games than I was on psp. I got my shooters and hack n slash faster. Though there isn't a skateboarding games yet so its not all pros.danish-death



Sony is all over the place with the Vita. They had quite a lot of system-selling games such as Rockstar game, Shin Megami Tensei and Yakuza coming for it. We probably won't see those. They failed to acquire Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid (even multiplats).

We also still haven't seen sh1t about Dragon's Crown and Warrior's Lair (former Ruin) - which should've already been released.

Some of the games they've released so far are rather questionable such as Resistance Burning Skies and CoD: Declassified - both games that could have and should have been much better (Resistance Retribution for the PSP wasn't a bad game and score well on this board).

Overall I feel as if Sony has no clue as how to acquire the right games for the console and to keep developers already acquired to stay/keep developing.

Talking commercials and advertisement Sony is generally in a dimension to themselves, that's how sh1tty they're doing their job. I don't think there has been a single PSV commercial on TV since the launch earlier this year. Even when something new releases for it nobody knows about it because Sony does jacksh1t about it. Again, this is just Sony in general - I've seen a commercial about Wonderbook today, but one does have to wonder where the Playstation All star one is.

Sony generally fails to capture their audience and to capture the industri as whole. Nobody gives a damn thing about the console because Sony doesn't appear to do so either. Want proof? Just look at this year's E3 and TGS. It was as if they were completely unaware about what they needed to do.Bu, bu but the games announced at TGS? Most of them were either ports, remakes or niche games that wouldn't do anything for it.

The land of the handhelds - Japan - appears to care even less about it at this point. It's not necessarily the price point of the console or the memory cards, no - they've already shown us that if Sony brings the right games they're on. However, whatever these games might do for the console it's usually short lived and fails to do anything that matters, especially because the games have been spread out with months in between.

There are tons of issues with the PS Vita at this point. If it doesn't get discontinued some time nexy year it'll just end up being a niche product with a low amount of games available for it (in the future).
How is it mismanaged? Commercials I can see but otherwise I am happier with the games than I was on psp. I got my shooters and hack n slash faster. Though there isn't a skateboarding games yet so its not all pros.p4s2p0


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One thing that fd vita was not having android on it. Vita is awesome but sony really messed up on that
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Vita has no much potential, it's insane, but sony is absolutely horrible when it comes to handhelds, they really really really need to sharpen up The 3ds can easily be beaten, yes it's got the games but the hardware itself is pathetic
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]Vita has no much potential, it's insane, but sony is absolutely horrible when it comes to handhelds, they really really really need to sharpen up The 3ds can easily be beaten, yes it's got the games but the hardware itself is pathetic

Sony is inexperienced when it comes to portables. But being they sold 70 million with psp. I wouldn't' call them horrible. They do such a good job satisfying my interest in portables when no one else has.
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I can see complaints against resistance burning skies but not cod declassified when it came out good. Even bad or inexperienced devs deserve credit when due.
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I bought the Assassin's Creed PS Vita bundle during Black Friday on Amazon for $180 and it has finally arrived on my doorstep. I upgraded it to the latest firmware before I got going on it.

Firstly, I am very surprised that the Vita comes with quite a few applications beyond the standard web browser: Skype, Netflix, Youtube, Twitter, an e-mail client, Foursquare, to name a few. While the application selection pales in comparison where a real mobile OS is concerned, I appreciate that these applications are on there, and they cover a good majority of my needs from an Internet-enabled handheld device. Only thing missing is a good banking application, access to cloud synchronization services like Dropbox and Skydrive, and Paypal, but I don't do too much of either anyway.

If Sony can just open up application development to third parties, eliminate the use of proprietary memory, lower the price, and mount some better cameras onto the thing, I can easily see the Vita being a stiff competitor to devices like the iPod Touch.

The PS Vita demonstrates much promise - only if Sony taps into its fullest potential.

The_Capitalist

Vita has similar hardware to iPad 3.

It would be nice to have a Vita that docks with a tablet i.e. like ASUS Padfone.

asus-padfone-open.jpg

The tablet uses the compute hardware from Vita.